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Dr. Lara:
We got rear-ended by a threequarter ton pickup truck with a snowplow 22 prescription medications, two open back surgeries, cages, put in metal rods plate. I’ve had so many other procedures I’ve lost count. My daughter gave me a book. The three waves of volunteers in the New Earth by Dolores Cannon. I made an appointment with this beautiful woman who trained under Dolores Cannon. I walked out of that session, never used my cane again, and I got off all of my medications that I had been on for 14 years in one month.

Guy:
Guy here. Welcome to my podcast. My beautiful guest today is Dr. Lara Vaden, and this is, I gotta give you some backstory here because her story has blew my mind. And if you clicked on this and you’re excited to get in, I, I couldn’t agree more, but bear with me for a sec, because what a bit of backstory. I ended up partnering with the DNA company a while back, and if you listen to my podcast on a regular basis, you know that I’ve done my longevity test. The PACE score, the pace of aging. My DNA and I’m, I’m really into my health as well and I’ve, I’ve been talking about it on my solo podcast and things, and I think it’s critical for the work that we’re actually doing. Even here with Live and Flow and my podcast Let It In, they go hand in hand, spiritual work and how we look after our divine temple, our body, our vehicle that we.

Get around in life. Anyway, I digress. So I invited her on to talk about DNA and the moment I got chatting to her, she was, I had no idea of her story and it’s, it’s a miracle she’s still here and she’s a testament to this work and how Dolores Cannon. Book ended up influencer making all these decisions, and she’s just gone on this lifelong quest from a scientist PhD to exploring the spiritual aspects as well. I was like, oh my God, this is amazing. So we did everything but talk about DNA. So we get into a full story and that we touch on a little bit towards the end of the podcast. So it shows a much of a salesman I can make, right? Because I cannot on to talk about one thing and because of. What I do and everything else, I really wanted to pull a story out as well.

So just give you a bit of backstory on that. There are links below if you wanna, uh, explore the DNA. There’s a special discount link for all my listeners and there’s something I’ve certainly done. There’s something that’s helped me along the way as well. So if you wanna explore your own DNA genomics and everything else, you can go from there. But in a nutshell, Dr. Lara is a functional genomics practitioner and she specializes in DNA based root cause health specialists. But we don’t talk about any of that today. Not much anyway. Let me know where you’re in the world. I always love connecting to you, and if you still listen to my intro, even if it’s a bit long-winded, I appreciate it.

I love you. Enjoy this podcast and hope I will meet you somewhere, someday in one of my events, retreats somewhere around the world, and we can actually have a real conversation beyond cyberspace. Anyway, enjoy.

Guy:
Dr. Lara Vaden. Welcome to the podcast. My lovely,

Dr. Lara:
It is such a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having

Guy:
it’s so good to connect, honestly. And we’ve just been talking for 10 minutes offline and, and starting to learn a bit more. And, um, and I think the conversation’s gonna go in all sorts of directions today, but, um, I will, I will start the podcast like I always do. If you were at an intimate dinner party and somebody asked what you did for a living, how would you answer right now?

Dr. Lara:
I help facilitate healing and I really take on a holistic approach, not a siloed aspect of let’s focus on this disease or symptom or problem. I have the person, I look at, the person sitting in front of me where they’re at, and zone in on. What they need. And I look at it from a foundational approach, not let’s use, uh, the analogy of a tree. I don’t focus on the branches and the leaves. I go to the roots. I go to the soil, the terrain to say, why did that happen in the first place? You know, what is it? Whether it be traumas, that’s, that’s a big one. Undealt with traumas from the past. Um, or even toxic load. Toxic exposures. What’s going on that’s affecting that person?

Maybe different lifestyle, their sleeping habits, their relationships. I mean, no matter what it is. That’s what we focus on. And I can generally figure that out by talking to them, by having their intake form, by, you know, looking at their genetics. ’cause that truly is their foundational blueprint on which to start. That this body that we have is built upon. But that’s only one piece of the puzzle. The rest of it really comes with the nurture. So we have the nature, okay, the genetics, but then we have the nurture, which plays a huge part in it. How are those genes being expressed based on, again, traumas that are unresolved or, uh, exposures of toxins or the food that they eat or the way that they think. All of these aspects play a part in who sits in front of me at that very moment, and that’s what I work off of.

Guy:
I love it. I love it. It’s, it’s, I can’t believe I’m only meeting you now, truly. You know, like, and what, what’s what’s evident for me as soon as I met you is that you, you, you’re radiant and you absolutely live and breathe this stuff. It’s, it’s who you are, which is what, what I get excited. But I had no idea that you had been on your own healing journey as well, and that you were a, a figure skater. Is that correct?

Dr. Lara:
Yes. Uh, so I, yeah. ’cause I, when I was younger, I always an athlete, I just couldn’t stop moving. And I got into figure skating very young. I was, I think five years old. And the minute I put those skates on, I just fell in love with being on the ice. And I ended up where I was skating all year round, you know, and, and actually I lived in the Adirondacks in northern New York, near Lake Placid where the 1932 and 80 Winter Olympics were held. So I had coaches where I would go to Lake Placid to skate, but I lived in Plattsburgh, New York, and I absolutely loved it. It was, it was freedom. It was a way for me to get out frustrations, you know, to have that physical energy. Um, but. Going through all of that. Academics were also very important to me.

And as was music. Uh, I sang, I played violin. Uh, I did a lot of different things. I, I went through a lot to, you know, bullied when I was in sixth grade and into high school. And just, you know, the traumas that I went through, um, you know, there, there was a lot. And so the exercise, the figure skating, the, the music, my family, my family, very, very strong. Um, loving family. So I did have that support, which was truly helpful. Uh, but it was, it’s just working, you know, through life, having these experiences, you know, uh, living through and experiencing the world with the body, because that’s something that. Is something that I have learned and have embraced is that we have a body.

We are not the body. This is a, a physical vehicle that allows us to interact in this three dimensional world. And it is amazing, uh, through emotions, through touch, through sensations, through pain, through all of it. It’s all for learning. It’s all for the experience. It’s all to relate as a, as an extension of God’s source with that experience and, and something for us as our souls, as our spirits, to be able to reconnect, to remember our heritage and our connection. Direct connection to source. To everyone. To everything, because we are all connected. And I think that is such a, a tremendous bottom line takeaway through, uh, through all of our journeys, is to remember that we are all connected. That we are all part of source. And you know, there’s such a tremendous, ah, you know, that that feeling of, I, I’m being taken care of.

I’m not alone. I’ve got this because God has this source, has this, whatever you want to call source. And it’d be very interesting that through my time, um, as I was growing up, as I was living life and having all these experiences, um, that. I eventually went to university, got married, had children, and with them I was also very active. Um, hiking and, and sports and playing and wrestling and hugging, kissing, and just, you know, a very wonderful tight family. And in 2001, so at this time I was 30 years old and I was still figure skating. I was teaching, uh, for the state of New York at a developmental disability service center. So the population, uh, they were legally involved, so we’ll put it this way, um, they would be in prison, but their IQs were 70 or less, so they could not be in a general population prison.

So for the state of New York, you had to give them, uh, educational services, you know. For this facility. And so I was the educational director and of course I, I taught in this facility and, you know, razor wire, Sally Ports. I had a, a security guard with me, you know, in all of my classes. So it, it was very engaging, intriguing, um, uh, challenging. Uh, but this was my life. And in February of 2001, we were coming home from, um, my husband at the time having an MRI because he had workers’ comp injuries and was going to physical therapy. And, uh, so he had an MRI to do a back to work, you know, and getting cleared for that. We were a quarter mile from the house.

We had already dropped off the kids, and our niece was babysitting while we went to the grocery store. And you know how they say most accidents occur within a mile of your home? Well, yes, that’s what happened with me. And so what ended up happening is a quarter mile from the house, and it was at the intersection of my husband’s home where he grew up. We were sitting at a stop sign. We, I was in the passenger seat, he was driving and we were in a suburban. And the reason why that’s important is because that vehicle saved our lives. We got rear-ended by a threequarter ton pickup truck with a snowplow. Come to find out, the gentleman was driving on Percocet.

He had just had back surgery like three weeks before. He should not have been driving. He had the plow mostly down and he was driving about 55 plus miles per hour and. Why the Suburban, um, it was so important is because thankfully, um, it is such a large vehicle. And we had the trailer hitch in because his plow came and hit the trailer, hitch released it, and the plow actually went forward, increased the back barn doors and actually ricocheted us almost like a Q ball, hitting another um, ball. And it shot us forward about 70 yards through the intersection and up an incline. And it happened in a second. It didn’t know really what was going on. I was actually, like I said, sitting in the passenger seat, but I was rotated speaking to my husband. So when you talk about getting rear-ended and that whiplash effect.

With a curved or with a, a rotated spine, you can just imagine what happened. There was this guy working, um, on an LP tank right on the corner. We thought the tank exploded because when he hit us, that concussive force was so loud, our ears were ringing for a week and it, it, we, when we stopped it was just like, didn’t know what happened. And I looked in my rear view mirror and I saw the truck and I said, oh my gosh. He hit us. And he’s like, what? I said, he hit us. And so my husband got out and the guy, he was slinked underneath his, uh, uh, steering wheel and he was like, don’t hit me. Don’t hit me. I just had back surgery. So yeah, it, it was.

Quite traumatic. And we found out from the reconstruction construction artists that if we had been in a compact car during the accident, we would’ve been dead. So truly everything happens for a reason. Well, unfortunately, uh, I’m gonna condense some of this, but I ended up, um, where I couldn’t walk. I was in a wheelchair, uh, after that accident for a while. I was adjudicated totally disabled by Social Security Disability within six months of that accident, which is actually kind of rare to have Social Security, you know, do that. Um, I wasn’t able to go back to work. Because the population that I worked with, remember I said that they are legally involved, they’re on a lot of medications.

They’re very unstable, and you can’t have or show a weakness, especially physical weakness because they can zone in on that. And it’s just not conducive, um, for the safety of everyone. Um, because a lot of the population were murderers, rapists, pedophiles, arsonists, um, and with such low IQs, they were very unstable. And even with the medication, so I was not able to return back to work. And because of my injuries, I actually had, uh, two s’s in my spine from trauma induced scoliosis. Because of that rotation. And I also had herniated and ruptured discs and we’re talking cervical, thoracic, lumbar. I had signal, uh, spinal fluid loss from in the T seven T eight range of my mid spine in the thoracic region.

I was a mess and in so much pain, uh, actually my physical therapist said I was a ball of energy and not in a good way. Uh, I would cry when they worked on me because it was just so painful. And at the time, the kids were 10 and seven years old, thank god they were not in the vehicle.

Guy:
I know.

Dr. Lara:
But one of the most difficult things as a mother was when. They came to hug and kiss me and cuddle and do the things that we would always do. And when they came to hug me, I would start crying in pain. And it got to a point where they were afraid to touch me because they didn’t wanna hurt me, and that absolutely broke my heart. And even just shifting positions in bed got so painful, I would start just crying. And I will be completely honest that there were a few times that I thought to myself, if this is gonna be the rest of my life, I don’t want a rest of my life. But that’s as far as it went, because I knew, I’m like, I’ve got two young kids that I need to raise and I’m not going to have them grow up without.

It’s not going to be something that I am going to take their mother away. I mean, God will take me when, you know, God wants me. But that’s, that’s not my decision. So I hung in there and I had, uh, two open back surgeries, cages put in, um, metal rods plate. I’ve had, um, fusions. Most of my lumbar spine is fused and I’ve had so many other procedures I, I’ve lost count. Um, I mean it’s, you know, in all levels. And it got to a point where. First of all, I was on a lot of medications. I, I was, at one point I was on I think like 21 or 22 prescription medications, uh, several narcotic medications, you know, oxycodone, uh, MS. Contin, hydrocodone, apap. And I was also on Tramadol and Neurontin and, you know, all of these medications, you know, for the pain, for the neuropathy, for, you know, all of the issues.

And then the other half were for the side effects from the first half. I mean, it, it was a mess. And I really was living in this haze of prescription medication of pain, of just difficulty. I’d, I’d say misery, but I can’t quite say that either because I still had gratefulness that I was alive, that I could be with the kids. It was just very, very challenging and. Slowly. I would, you know, after surgeries I’d get a little better to where I could walk again. But I, I had to use a cane and, um, you know, the doctors would say, oh, you probably will never walk normally again. And I was like, yeah, just watch me. I don’t like people telling me, you know, my limitations.

It’s like, no, I, I’m gonna do this again. So it came time, uh, it was 2010, and my son, he was going into his senior year of high school and. He just was bored. Um, and he was doing very, very well. So we looked into a early college placement program for him and, uh, my husband at the time, um, he had graduated from Clarkson University in Northern New York, in Potsdam, New York. And, uh, they have this early college placement program. So he ended up getting accepted in there and was in college at 16 years old. So we had an empty nest year early. So my husband was like, okay, so what do you wanna do now? I said, I wanna go back to school. I want to figure this out. I want to heal us.

Because being on that treadmill of allopathic western medicine, going from, you know, the neurosurgeon to orthopedic surgeon, to pain management, and just, you go there, you see the person, you see your doctor from maybe 10, 15 minutes, and then they just write more prescriptions. I needed to get off that treadmill because it just, I knew that that wasn’t the path. So I was like, I’ve gotta do this myself. I need to learn, I need to become a doctor. I need to learn and what to do. So now at this time, it had been about 20 years since I had been in college for my, you know, first couple of degrees. Uh, ’cause I, my degree was in education. I was a teacher and I found out that medical training had to be done, uh, or your prerequisites for medical school had to be done within seven to nine years of medical training.

So obviously I was like, oh yeah, a lot of these are too old, so I need to take some of these courses over again. Plus I needed to do the higher level sciences, which I had never taken, you didn’t need to as a, as a teacher. So I ended up enrolling in school that was a mile away from where my son was going to, to university. And, uh, got into a biochemistry, biology pre-med program and I maxed out on all the science courses I could take. And the biology department, chemistry department, almost physics department. I almost triple majored. But, um, I was just voracious in the information. I had a, a goal and was like a dog with a bone, um, wanting to know.

And with me, I always do things a thousand percent. I mean, it’s not half-assed with me. So it’s like when you do a job, you do it right and you do it right the first time. So I. Put everything into it. Well, unfortunately, I was still on all the medications. I still had the pain and sitting in those lecture halls, sitting in front of a computer doing all of the research and tests and stuff, I started declining physically again. Yes, I, when I was in lab, you know, working at the bench top with these reagents and chemicals and stuff, I leaned my cane up against the bench top and I’d, you know, reach over to grab it. My leg would give out on me because of the radiculopathy, the pain, you know, the sciatic nerve. And I would fall to the ground and just be in so much pain.

They’d have to call, um, the ambulance to come get me, to bring me to the hospital to get a shot of like, Flexeril, Toradol and something to get me out of the pain cycle. And unfortunately, this was happening more often. So here we are three and a half years in. To getting my degree. I was supposed to graduate that spring, um, in 2015. This happened in, in fall of 2014, and my neurosurgeon, I went in to go see her and she said, Laura, she said, you can’t keep going like this. She said, if you keep pushing, you’re gonna end up being paralyzed from the waist down. She said, I’m not gonna watch you do that. She said, I’m medically withdrawing you from school because another surgery is not gonna help you at this time.

She said, I want you to stop and I want you to go heal yourself. I was absolutely bawling in that exam room, partly because I was in so much pain. The other part is because this goal that I had this close to getting it. And that rug was being pulled out from under my feet. It was being taken away from me. And I’m thinking, how, how can I, how can I heal us? How can I get that information to, to continue on? And something that I realized later that when she said to me, go heal yourself. Those were some of the most prophetic words ever told to me, because actually that’s exactly what I did. I got medically withdrawn from school three weeks before the end of the semester.

And. I had, I ended up having, um, water therapy was always very, uh, reju, rejuvenative for me. It was always very beneficial, but they didn’t have water therapy in the area that I was, so I had to move back to my hometown. But we put everything in storage, went there. Now, it’s important to state that during this time, like right before I was medically withdrawn from school, my daughter gave me a book, uh, the Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth by Dolores Cannon and my daughter and I, well, my kids were very, very close and not 30 seconds. After I finished reading that book in October of 2014, my daughter calls me. She said, you just finished the book, didn’t you? I was like, yes. How’d you know? She goes, I felt it and I knew after reading that book I need to have. A-Q-H-H-T session. And for those audience members who may not know, Dolores Cannon has created the quantum healing hypnosis technique.

It’s a type of, you know, hypnotherapy that brings the person into a somnambulistic state where she has been able to tap into or get in touch with what she calls the sc the self-conscious. It’s self self-conscious, but it’s deeper than that. It’s tapping into that knowledge of source, something that knows much more than we do. And she’s written 19 books about it. Absolutely amazing. Uh, she has since passed away. She actually passed away in October of 2014. Her daughter runs the company now. Um, but I knew that I needed a session. And so when I had moved back. To our hometown. I made an appointment, um, with this beautiful woman, um, QHHT practitioner, Diane Morrison, who trained under Dolores Cannon.

Uh, and that session was in March of 2015. And the amazing thing about it is that when I went to go see her, my daughter and my, my husband also had sessions, but I went in and the session lasted around almost four hours. Okay? I never went into a somnambulistic state. I was aware of what was going on, um, but there was a reason for that. I walked out of that session, never used my cane again, and I got off all of my medications that I had been on for 14 years in one month. I weaned myself off over the month and got off of them, and I have never gone back to taking prescription medications since then. Albeit I, I do take bioidentical hormone therapy, so that is a prescription, but outside of that, I, I don’t, and I have not taken any prescription drugs. I barely even take over the counter and

Guy:
Was that, was that, was that just one session?

Dr. Lara:
That was just one session.

Guy:
Wow.

Dr. Lara:
I had since had two more, but that was more for the realization of where I come from, of connections of tapping into my higher self into source even more. Um, there wasn’t, uh, miraculous healings in the other two, but that’s okay. And the thing is, is that I didn’t get a hundred percent healing during that first session. There was a reason for that and, and I’ll tell you why. During that session, I actually raised off the bed slightly. I had a sensation, uh, this tingling sensation down my spine, something I had never felt before, and something I have never felt sense.

And I believe that’s where tapping into my higher self, into source, into that healing potential of that miraculous healing potential happened. But again, I wasn’t a hundred percent healed because I think my higher self knows me better than me, knows that I would have gone back and just rubbed myself into the ground again. And one of the, one of the, uh, lessons that I continually need to learn is balance is finding that balance. ’cause balance is not static. It is a verb. It is something that is constantly being worked on. But for me to be able to stop and go, okay, too much, I need to take care of me. But it also provided me the opportunity to navigate, to learn other healing modalities, all different kinds.

So that way I could then turn around and teach it and help others. Because as a, an educator at heart, I, that’s, that’s how I work and do things. That’s how I really learn. That’s how I can, you know, intimately know and can connect with others to help them. And that’s what my journey, you know, really has been because after that session, I knew that this was a profound gift and that, you know, God has a path for me and, and I need to just follow it and I need to surrender and do that. And that’s something that’s not, it’s not so easy. It’s not something that you say I surrender and then, you know, it’s just that once, no, it’s a continuous thing. You have to work on it. Just like, it’s not the destination, it’s the journey. So I ended up, um. We traveled for several months, uh, during 2015 and I re-enrolled in school that fall to finish that last year that I ended up missing.

And it was absolutely amazing. I got into research, um, well, I had been doing research, but I did more research, actually published a couple of papers, uh, managed a biophysical chemistry lab for my advisor and, you know, having that time to come, oh, hey, medical school. Well at this time, my daughter had graduated from university, my son had graduated from university, and I was like, oh boy, okay, med school, that’s expensive and um, I’m not getting any richer, not getting any younger, so how am I gonna do this? My advisor was like, well, why don’t you get your PhD? I said, okay, and how much is that gonna cost? He said, nothing. Like what? What do you mean? Nothing, he said, yeah, and the sciences that we do, he said if you get a research assistantship or a teaching assistantship, not only will they waive your tuition.

They will pay you a stipend for you to get your doctorate. I’m like, sold. Absolutely. This is fantastic. And the neat thing was, is that when my son was at Clarkson University, I was at the State University of New York at Potsdam, which is just a mile away. And there are four major universities in the 10 mile radius that have, um, a, an agreement where people, the students could cross register for different courses at no extra cost. Well, I had cross registered for a course, stem cells and regenerative medicine at Clarkson. I I took the class with my son and the professor was not only the chair of the biology department, he also was head of the, uh, PhD program, interdisciplinary Biosciences and biotechnology program. And I loved the course and it ended up, that’s the only university I applied to.

And I immediately got in and he’s like, I want you as my, the, the professor who taught stem cells and regenerative medicine. He said, I, I want you as my, my grad student. I’m like, okay, take a while to guess what his field of study is, spine

Guy:
Oh wow.

Dr. Lara:
degenerative disc disease and spine. I was just like. Thank you. Got it. I, the, the synchronicities and the paths, I mean, it was just like laid out. All I had to do was just take those steps and do it. So I ended up creating my own, um, my own program. I worked in three different labs, two in the biology department, one that for, uh, my main advisor, uh, who did more genetic work, uh, epigenetic expression, uh, but really worked at that subcellular level.

The other, uh, lab did more cellular materials interface, you know, moving up on that scale of micro to macro. And then the third lab that I worked in was the biomedical. Um, uh, it actually, it’s. It was the aeronautical engineering, but it’s a biomedical engineering lab where I did more of the macro work of actually using bovine cow spine as my model, looking at intradiscal injections, injection leakage, you know, because I worked from that molecular aspect and how that genetic a, uh, expression is for like stem cell injections for cofactor or other types of injecting material to help with indi intradiscal, um, material to help with spine and back pain.

So I, I did this. I, it was absolutely incredible. It was, it was such an opportunity to be able to do that. And the, um, remember how I said you can either get a research assistantship or a teaching assistantship? I got the teaching assistantship. Well, of course, you know, being a certified teacher, you know, that really was a benefit. And they actually let me choose the course that I taught. And the one that I chose was Anatomy and Physiology, which is a 400 and 500 level course. So I was teaching grad students as well, uh, you know, students for uh, um, uh, pa, uh, physician’s assistant, uh, ot, um, the occupational therapist, physical therapist because we had a cadaver lab at the university, which was a amazing that I got to teach and actually experience, you know, all of these different cadavers.

’cause even in med school, you have a cadaver for a one semester and you only have one. And I had the beautiful opportunity of working on like 30 different cadavers over the couple of years that I was teaching it. And. You know, they say the best way to learn something is to teach it. And I, I have to say it was absolutely amazing. Um, what I learned, um, through that. So that was my first two years and then my last three years of my PhD, I ended up getting, uh, a national science, uh, foundation scholarship. I, I’m a, uh, NSF fellow, uh, because I submitted research proposal that was accepted and funded. So again, my last three years was funded through the National Science Foundation and just absolutely amazing.

Guy:
That, that’s one hell of a journey, honestly. And what’s coming to mind, uh, is just, just to tie that up though, but after you had those experiences and going through Dolores Cannon’s, um, work and, and actually directly experiencing it from a very different vantage point, and having that connection to source, what did that do for you then coming back into the Acade academic world? It’s almost like that’s sitting in the backseat or next to you now, and you, you’re seeing it through a different lens as opposed to the, the person that was, you know, had to stop studying the academia because it was actually harming you, where it was very just mind driven. But it feels like there’s a completely different vantage point you took into it once she went back to

Dr. Lara:
Oh, absolutely. Well, the interesting thing is, is that I always wanted to bridge. scientific, the academic, the more, you know, left brain, um, aspect of that analytical ness and bridge that to the metaphysical that, you know, uh, aspect of faith and of miracles and of the, the unknown, which more and more I have realized, has a strong scientific base to it. It’s just oftentimes we don’t have the type of devices to be able to measure what it actually does, but we are now and more has been coming out to be able to measure frequencies. When you consider everything is frequencies. We live in an electromagnetic world and. We can now measure that the work of, um, uh, Emoto, um, uh, Dr. Emoto, he has since passed away.

He was Japanese. He did the, the work of, um, the ice, the, the water crystals, uh, and the beautiful like snowflakes in a way. That’s what they look like, um, based on certain frequencies, you know, or he distilled it down to like love and, and then hate, you know, distilling it down to those two, that the beautiful snowflake type image that came from love and hate was more like a splatter and the resonance that water. Takes in based on these frequencies is absolutely amazing. And thinking that, you know, our bodies are made up of mostly water. Um, but there are many experiments that have been since done based on that. But you were asking how, how did that, that metaphysical or that uh, that the work that I experienced through QHHT and, and the self-healing and then getting back into the academic world, it’s not that it took a backseat, it didn’t even take a side seat.

What it took is that surrounding foundation that the academics, the material, the three dimensional aspect sits with inside of everything else that goes around that it’s, it’s all blended and. It’s just that a lot of us, they don’t see that connected ness. They don’t see how they actually are so interwoven and so important and reliant on one another that the way that you think, the way that you speak, the way that you feel affects the body. And this is where trauma can come in. Uh, a mentor of mine, I set a phrase, the issues are in the tissues because traumas and these difficulties, the way we think, the way that we feel our bodies speak to us. It will tell us in whispers at first, when something is off, because maybe you haven’t dealt with, you know, a relationship, you haven’t, you know, learned some of the lessons that you need to learn, you know, no matter what they are.

And our bodies will tell us. But we have become so dissociated with being in touch with our bodies that we don’t listen, we don’t hear. And finally our bodies have to start getting louder. They start yelling and then they start screaming. And that’s when you have these pathophysiological manifestations of dis-ease that comes about. And there is this beautiful interplay and dance between the physical and the metaphysical, the, the spirit, the essence that we cannot see or touch. But that is there. And it’s matching those up. And when you do that, you get into the flow of that surrender of, and I’m not saying surrender give up, I’m saying surrender, let go of trying to control everything.

There is a wonderful book that I just finished reading called Letting Go by Dr. David Hawkins. Uh, he’s an MD PhD. It is fantastic and it’s, again, it’s understanding the existence of both that yes, you can have someone who is, you know, a PhD, md, you know, has all these credentials, all these academic things, and still believe very strongly in that metaphysical. I’m also a reiki master. I also work with energies. Um, I, I have. I can’t really explain it. Um, but there, there are things that I know that I feel that I do, that I tap into when I work with someone and I can generally tell what I can share, what I can’t, where, where they land. So I can meet them where they’re at so I can help them, so I can guide them, giving them them a hand because it truly is ultimately up to them to implement recommendations to actually do the work.

I’m just the cheerleader. I’m the tour guide. They’re the ones driving the bus. This is a partnership. It’s not them listening to me, Sage on a stage white coat. Just do what I say. No, I don’t want that. That’s because that is not how true healing. Growth and continued evolution of their selves, of their health, of their, of their soul is going to happen. They have their own journey. I just have the honor and the pleasure of being a part of that, of, of educating them to empower them to then help them on that evolutionary journey.

Guy:
Absolutely.

Dr. Lara:
And that’s how I look at it.

Guy:
Yeah. I love it. And it’s so important. It’s so important like that you’ve. The way you are approaching things and, and, uh, um, because I, what we see, we call ourselves spiritual doorman, actually, that we open the door and it’s up for people to walk through it. Like we, we are just facilitators and space holders. That’s it. You know, and the, the aspect of what we see is once people have an embodied experience, have a spiritual connection and realize that, that, that they are greater than their body. And there is something that’s orchestrating this whole universe. Like it’s, it’s, it’s phenomenal, but it’s then how do we bring that into, into daily practice, but also then looking at all the other, all the other aspects of what we can do to, to look after our temple.

’cause like you said, it’s, it’s the vehicle that that gets us through the day that allows us to have our experiences in any given moment. And I’m, and I’m fascinated by it all. And that’s why I, you know, I, I reached out to the DNA company in the first place because I wanna start to expose people to a different way of thinking as well, and how they can start to nurture those aspects. And so, you know, what you do is, is, um, yeah. And how you approach is phenomenal. I, I,

Dr. Lara:
Well, I’ll say that, you know, when we’re talking about DNA, like I said in the beginning, that is the foundational blueprint of these vehicles that we have to interact with, that we are using during this time period. And it, it’s important for us to take good care of it. But no one gave us a manual on exactly how to do that. And, but in a way they have, and it is our DNA now, do we know, does science know everything about it? No, but we are learning a lot and that learning that information is exponentially growing. When you consider, you know, it’s only been a couple of decades, you know, if that, that we finally mapped the human genome.

There’s still so much more that we are finding out about functions of certain genes and multiple functions and how they work together. That, you know, genes do not exist in a vacuum. They are like players on a team. They work together. They have to, you know, you’ll have some, um, genes that are strong that are working optimally, others that are weaker. But if they’re on the same team, if they’re in the same pathway, they can help each other out. Just like, you know, say baseball, okay? can’t play the game with just one player. You’ve got a bunch of players. Now you may extract one of the players and look at their stats. Oh, you know, his hitting this year, or You got this many outs, or this, you know, in this position.

And, and you have that for that one player, but that doesn’t signify how if they are going to be winning and going to the World Series, okay, just by that one player, you put them back into the team because others can pick up where they may be weak and they will pick up where others may be weak and they play cohesively as a team and hopefully your favorite team, if everything goes well, you know that they will be winning their games and win that World series. That, you know, because they have been given the optimal environment, the terrain, you know, the, the food, the rest, the, you know, the cheering to have them reach that pinnacle point of being at their optimal. And it’s the same thing with our genes. We need to know what we’re playing with. We need to know what we’re working with.

Where are we weak? Where are we strong? And how do I support the weaknesses? And where can I lean in on those strengths? And it’s not a matter of being, um, saying it’s good or it’s bad. Granted, you know, there are some suboptimal or optimal or this and that, but it really gets into the context. The context of this is where we get into epigenetics. Epigenetics is the expression of those genes. It does not fundamentally change the genetic code itself. It only changes how those particular genes are expressed. Kind of like having a light switch or a dimmer switch. Okay, you can turn genes on, you can turn them off a dimmer switch. You’ve got this much space to work with, you can up-regulate it down-regulate it.

It’s finding that optimal spot of regulation, of expression that works to make the whole team cohesive and playing perfectly to win the ultimate game of life. Okay. And that’s what it is. It’s, it’s these levers that you, you need to, to change, kind of like an equalizer, you know, it’s, it’s moving up and down and finding just the right spot of all of those particular genes.

Guy:
Where, because we see a lot of people, obviously, that have come to the end of the road. Like they, they get to a point where the, there’s a chronic pain, they’ve gone through the medical system, and now they’re like, I, I, you know, I’m gonna, I’m gonna try these kook spirit retreats out, or whatever it might be. And, and just give that a You know, it’s the, the thing, when they go into medical system, nobody’s gonna be asking you, from my knowledge, what’s your DNA, what, what team are you actually playing with? What are we looking at, first of all, to, to see, to get a baseline so we can work from that? I mean, it’s literally, if I’m not mistaken, a, a, a about putting the symptom out, not looking at the. The real cause.

Dr. Lara:
Correct. They’re, they’re focusing western medicine. Allopathic medicine is focusing on the branches and the leaves. Oh, that leaf leaf is brown. It’s, it’s, so what we’re gonna do, we’re gonna go over there, we’re gonna spray paint it green. It’s like, is that really fixing the problem? No. It’s like what I do and what we do at the DNA company is we are looking at the foundation. Through a functional lens, functional genomics going, okay, we’re not focusing on symptoms, we are not focusing and on on diagnoses because there’s a reason why you ended up having that in the first place, and it certainly isn’t for a lack of medication. So we need to go back and say, let’s look out at your foundational blueprint, your DNA, let’s look at these functional pathways.

Where are you weak? Where could it have gone wrong based on your lifestyle, your diet, your traumas, because again, your DNA is only part of the whole picture. It is a piece, a big piece of the puzzle, but it’s still only one

Guy:
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Lara:
I also look at, and we, we have intake form. I wanna see your history. I wanna see everything that’s going on. Have you ever taken antibiotics? If so, how much? How often, you know, what was your birth like? What, you know? Have you ever traveled to different countries? Um, you know, have you ever had, uh, traumas in your life? Or, you know, were you abused? Or, you know, all of these things. What does your sleep look like? What have you ever been exposed to? Toxins? Do you have amalgams still in your teeth? All of these are important. All of them play a part that, you know, that straws that, you know, you keep putting on the, the camel’s back until finally that one straw, it breaks the back. All of a sudden it’s, and, and what I tell people, it’s everyone has a toxic bucket.

Okay. Our bodies are constantly, you know, filling it, whether it’s by a trickle or a fire hose, you know, or it’s being filled. Okay? Because we have normal metabolic processes, trash, you know, that’s being created that needs to be gotten rid of. Just like when we go to the store, we buy goods, we buy groceries, we bring it into our home. Our home is our cell. Okay, well, we consume and then we create trash. Well, what do we do when we have trash? We bring it aside, put in the trash, and the trash guy comes and picks it up and takes it away. Well, it’s the same thing for our bodies. We have natural byproducts that are trash, okay? They need to be taken outta the cell and gotten rid of, ’cause you know how stinky and everything else it would be if you never got rid of your trash, and then rats and, and other buggies and other things that you don’t want in your home.

Okay? So it’s the same type of thing that trash needs to be taken out. How good is your body at doing that? Just at a basic level. I’m not talking necessarily detoxification protocols, like a heavy metal protocol or, you know, a, um, a mold, you know, detox protocol. I’m talking about the basic detoxification processes. Okay. So ones that we look at, uh, antioxidation, methylation, glutathione, conjugation, glucuronidation, you know, these are, uh, detoxification pathways that we look at within our reports to say, how well do you do these things? So, getting back to the toxic bucket. So we have, you know, it’s being filled all the time.

Okay. we are also emptying it. And these are the detoxification processes, those pathways I was just telling you about. So the key is that you wanna be able to empty that toxic bucket faster than it’s being filled. And unfortunately in this meu of, of chemicals and toxins that we live in every day, and I, I don’t necessarily wanna overwhelm with super negativity, but I mean, there’s a lot that we are being exposed to at a toxic level. Okay? If we are being exposed to that and our bucket is being filled with a fire hose and we’re not able to empty it fast enough, pretty soon it’s going to overflow. When it overflows, that’s when we get symptoms. That’s when we have those problems. Whether it be, you know, say Hashimoto’s or you know, other, uh, cardiovascular issues or, uh, think of any chronic issue.

There’s something that’s going on that is not working well, that you are not able to clear, you are not able to process and. Your, your body is just not working in harmony because something is off. So remember, that’s the body screaming because things were going on, we just, again, we don’t pay attention until something catastrophic happens when you actually finally do something about it,

Guy:
But that was the thing, isn’t it? You know, we’re so dis disconnected from ourselves anyway. We don’t even listen. We just, we just on autopilot until it’s like you say, it’s screaming at you. You know, I, I’m, I’m aware of the time this morning for, for myself, but with, there’s one question I’m itching to ask you as well, not to leave the listeners hanging as well though, but what have you seen if, once you start understanding what team you are playing with and what can the bodies do in terms of turning things around? If you are giving it the, like you’re saying, you, you’re turning the lights switches on or you’re turning them off, you’re dimming things down. You’re getting those, uh, buckets emptying on a daily basis. Like what is the potential of the human body with the right environment?

Dr. Lara:
well, the potential is unbound for sure, but you know, we also don’t wanna overwhelm people

Guy:
Of course.

Dr. Lara:
and again, taking them where they’re at, where is their biggest pain point, what’s going on? And then I start breaking it down. I take a look at their DNA and then based on what their goal is, you know, so, um, say they’ve, uh, they’re not sleeping well, they’ve been constipated, and, um, you know, they’ve been gaining weight and it’s just, you know, they’re very stressed. Well, I would start asking a lot of questions because three major areas that I look at, or questions that I ask, are you sleeping? Are you pooping and is your blood sugar regulated? Those are three foundational things that cover a lot of the chronic issues because they relate to inflammation. So I start digging in and asking them, you know, Hey, you know, I look at their detox pathways and actually I, I did get a chance to quickly look at, you know, a few of your, um, genetic reports and, you know, one of the areas that I specifically look at is the detoxification pathways.

You know, so I say, okay, well, you know, you’re having some of these in, uh, issues, the inflammation, you’re, you know, just not feeling well, your gut’s off or you know, especially with the constipation, they’re reabsorbing toxins. So it’s like, what can we do? So I look at what are they eating? You know, are you getting the foods you need to support these pathways? So do you mind if I mention a couple of

Guy:
go for it. Yeah, yeah, please. Yeah.

Dr. Lara:
okay.

Guy:
Touching it.

Dr. Lara:
So I was noticing in your antioxidation pathway, your SOD two, uh, which is a superoxide dismutase. Um, this helps, this gene helps to remove break down, I should say, uh, reactive oxygen species. These are, um, byproducts of the mitochondria, okay? In its regular process in making a TP, it’s, it’s a toxic byproduct and SOD two helps to break that down into hydrogen peroxide and oxygen. Well, you do that very slowly, so you have more of these reactive oxygen species or oxidants that can create havoc and, uh, actually age the cell and damage the mitochondria.

So between that and the fact that GPX, your glutathione peroxidase, which takes the hydrogen peroxide and turns it into water, uh, and hands it off, you know, with the glutathione to be, you know, transferred out and help with the cell, that’s very fast. So there isn’t, um, your like at extreme opposites with these two. Okay. So this is something where, oh, okay, so you’re having some issues. You could be, you could be, this is not diagnostic. Okay. I’m looking at foundation, but there are other questions I would be asking based on symptoms or, you know, other things. Um, so this could be a problem and so I would say, well make sure that you focus on antioxidants.

That you’re having vitamin C, you know, that you’re having foods. I always like leaning into foods first, then into supplementation. But you know that you’re having foods that are rich in vitamin C and vitamin E. Um, you know, if need be even taking supplementation, you know, have those polyphenols have, you know, these antioxidant foods, bright, rich colors, um, that can help support that. If we were talking about, uh, another, uh, de phase two detoxification pathway would be your glutathione conjugation pathway, the GST genes. Now you are optimal for your gstt one that is like the main, uh, detoxification more in the cardiovascular, in the main, um, uh, body. Uh, but your GST M1, that’s M as in Mary one, you have zero copies.

’cause these are copy number variants, not, um, single nucleotide polymorphisms having no copies. Well, that affects the biomes of the gut and lungs. So that could cause a lot of dysbiosis of the gut. It can make it more difficult, um, to have a, a strong stable, uh, composition for your gut bacteria. Well, your gut is a good share of your immune system. So that can lead into other issues. And again, you know, I, I could see on your intake form certain aspects. So this would be, I would be looking at, hmm, maybe we should look at your gut, maybe even do a DNA, um, uh, the Gut 360 premium test to say, what’s your current situation? Because it changes, okay, your DNA doesn’t change, but all the other stuff does.

Let’s get a baseline. Let’s see what species you may be low in. You know, see what beneficial species you may need more of. Whether it be through, you know, different types of foods or actual probiotics. Um, but also if you have any pathogenic species. Because there are certain protocols we can do to help, you know, shift you out of, you know, any type of um, dysbiotic state. Okay. And start getting that population back to where it’s most healthy and beneficial for you. You know? So again, looking at that, I can see different things. Even with methylation, you know, like your B vitamins. Yeah. You should be eating foods that are strong in B vitamins, but in supplementation, your genetics state that you should not be taking the methylated form of B nine, which is folate, or B12, which is cobalamin. You need to be taking folinic acid that form of B nine and adenyl cobain, that B12.

Guy:
I isn’t that wild because just that little bit of intel alone because you could so easily be doing things that you think are, are healthy for you

Dr. Lara:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
and they’re actually driving the problems.

Dr. Lara:
Uh, precisely.

Guy:
wild.

Dr. Lara:
So when you’re talking about precision medicine, simple little changes. You don’t wanna overwhelm people, but just doing one or two things. Make those changes, put them into habit, then add on a couple more things. Those little wins add up to make major changes in health.

Guy:
Yeah.

Dr. Lara:
you have to have, you have to have the guide, you have to have your blueprint to know what exactly to do that is precise for you, for Guy Lawrence that is specific for you. So this is, it’s just knowing how to translate that information and that’s, you know, by working with someone like me, um, who can translate that for you to, uh, to read you in on the guide, to let you know the playbook, so that way you can then play the game and win it.

Guy:
Yeah. Laura, I just look, thank you for coming on the podcast today. It’s been, uh, phenomenal and we’ve just scratched the surface, mate, like, I mean, well, I, I got to talk about one thing, but as soon as I heard your story and background, I think that’s really important and everyone listening today will resonate with everything and really connect to your passions, which is what it’s all about. Um, if people wanna work with you or wanna find out more, uh, what, where’s the best place to send them?

Dr. Lara:
Uh, actually go to the DNA company so they can go to the d company.com. Uh, you can also email c o@thednacompany.com. Um, you can downloading our app. The DNA way is a wonderful one-stop shop. You don’t even have to have done your DNA 360 or any of the tests yet. What it does is it actually will show you sample reports. You can access our podcast. I’m one of the podcast hosts. Um, our webinars, all educational open access, um, our DNA Digest, uh, which wonderful articles themed, um, you know, it’s a quarterly digest. Fantastic information that can be very useful, you know, for the lay person to just start learning. About health, about wellness on things that they can do.

And then if they are interested in getting their DNA done, they can order it right through the website or right through, well, yes through the website but also through the app. Um, or if they’ve done a 23 and Me, they can actually upload that information and it will generate certain information. It won’t cover everything. Um, but it can at least get them started.

Guy:
Amazing. Thank you so much. Uh, incredible.

Dr. Lara:
my deepest pleasure. Thank you. It’s so amazing, uh, to meet you and to speak with you and I really hope that, uh, we can speak more again ’cause there’s so much more, like you said, scratching the

Guy:
Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you, Laura. Thank you so much.