#267 In this episode, the Guy welcomed David Hulse to delve into the fascinating world of energetics and frequency. David Hulse, an ex-minister with profound insights into spirituality and energy work, shared his journey and how he transitioned from traditional religious teachings to exploring quantum physics and vibration healing. The conversation touched upon the human body’s connection to universal energy, the significance of tuning forks in energetic healing, and the concept of transitioning from 3D to 5D consciousness. David emphasized the importance of working towards breakthrough rather than merely fixing what’s breaking down and provides insight into how vibrations and frequencies can facilitate deep spiritual and physical healing. The episode offers a holistic perspective on contemporary spiritual awakening and practical tools for harnessing energy for self-healing.
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About David: David Hulse, C.V.S.M.T. (Certified Vibrational Sound Master Teacher) combines his 60 years of experience as a motivational speaker with years of research in metaphysics, science, sound and spirituality to bring you a unique and empowering experience. Participants in David’s workshops invariably comment that they had no idea how powerful the experience was going to be. David’s ability to gather all the fragments of truth from many different disciplines helps bring all of your experiences up to now into focus. Participants tell us that things in their life that seemed separate and fragmented suddenly come together after spending the weekend with David. We invite you to come and experience an empowering and inspiring weekend with David Hulse and experience the power of SomaEnergetics!
At the turn of the century, David’s accelerating interest and research into the lost frequencies of the Ancient Solfeggio, served as the Spirit-Guided catalyst for SomaEnergetics – a technique whereby the Solfeggio Tuning Forks help facilitate the releasing of energy to flow more easily. These custom-made forks, as well as training classes in the SomaEnergetics Vibrational Sound Techniques, including the Energy Vitality Technique are available exclusively through SomaEnergetics.
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Key Points Discussed:
- (00:00) – Ex-Minister REVEALS How Energy & Frequency Unlock Humanity’s 5D Awakening
- (00:35) – Podcast Introduction and Guest Introduction
- (02:26) – David Hulse’s Journey and Spiritual Awakening
- (04:12) – Understanding Energy and Healing
- (07:11) – The Role of Frequency and Vibration in Healing
- (18:39) – The Shift from 3D to 5D Consciousness
- (26:58) – Understanding Spirit Energy and Self-Healing
- (27:51) – The Role of Etheric Blueprint in Healing
- (29:02) – Energy Work and Intuition
- (31:09) – The Power of Naming and Perception
- (32:08) – Testing and Customizing Healing Approaches
- (35:57) – The Importance of Tuning Forks
- (38:25) – Personal Journey and Spiritual Insights
- (40:42) – Global Impact and Lightworkers
- (42:13) – The Significance of Solfeggio Frequencies
- (53:21) – Final Thoughts and Encouragement
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TRANSCRIPT
David: [00:00:00] So when I raise my knowing to believing, I’ve raised the frequency of my consciousness, which drives through the etheric blueprint cellular development. The blood that runs in our veins, if you look it up, is con gel light. It’s trapped light in the density of 3D bodies, but actually in it is the life and light code. This is one of the most spiritual times to be a life on the planet. Right now. It is the. Caterpillar breaking down to become the butterfly.
Guy: Guy here. Welcome to my podcast. Thanks for tuning in today. I’ve got David Hulse on the show. We get into all sorts of conversations, but mainly energetics and frequency. What’s going on in the planet to today, from 3D to 4D to 5D. You might have heard a lot about that. The s Sgio frequencies. You might have heard about that, but also how we can start to work with misalignments within our body. [00:01:00] I’m trying to find the right words here. Uh, but how energy can influence matter? It’s a fascinating conversation. Uh uh, David was an ex minister, so he knows how to talk. He was beautiful. He is a good man, and I have no doubt you’ll get a lot outta this conversation today. If you enjoy it, please let me know in the comments below.
It’s great to connect with you just beyond cyberspace. If you’re watching this on YouTube, you could be on Spotify, iTunes, I don’t know. And there’s links below as well. If you wanna find out more what we’re up to around the world. I’ve just got back from you. Europe, Portugal was amazing. Zag grab the event that we did as well was amazing.
We just run retreats and workshops in Europe if you’re wondering. And, um, and we’re back. And I’m up and down the country here in Australia. Anyways, there’s also, um, other stuff below. Anyway, I don’t know. I’m rabbit in now. Enjoy this conversation and I will see you soon.
Guy: David, welcome.
David: Thank you. Thank you for having me. I’m looking forward to our time together.
Guy: Likewise. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. It’s, it’s fascinating [00:02:00] because, um, as you can imagine, when you have a platform to share with people and have conversations like yourself, um. As it gets momentum, a lot of people ask to come on and your team reached out and I instantly went, wow. Look what this guy’s doing.
David: Well, it’s just that connection sometimes that we make, you know?
Guy: Totally. And I was like, I gotta know more. I gotta know more. Um, good. So, so. The question I always ask everyone is if you were say at at an airport or at a cocktail party and somebody asked you what you did for a living, or how would you pass your time, what would you say to them if they’re a complete stranger?
David: Well, I’m on a quest, have been for many years. It was a young child, but I wanted to know the basic questions. Where’d I come from? Why am I here? And what is my purpose and where am I going? So that continues to, uh, unfold [00:03:00] itself as uh, as we become more, uh, into the multidimensional idea of things. ’cause you think you have it on one dimension, and then the next thing you know the frequency has shipped.
And you’re on another dimension. And, uh, it’s just beginnings after beginnings, after beginnings. So, uh, that’s been kind of my, my life has, has been those, those, uh, moments, those epiphany moments. Yeah. Of cha. Yeah.
Guy: Yeah. Look, I think, um, as a facilitator myself, they are the big questions I think people are, are asking themselves, you know.
What, what does it all mean? Why am I here? What is my purpose? And, and how can I, um, lean in and have the courage, I think, to um, to honor that? ’cause it can be scary at first. I’m interested before we get into what you do, ’cause you are, you certainly are on a quest. How did you end up doing what you’re doing?
Was there a breakdown to breakthrough kind of thing? Was there a, a spiritual awakening? [00:04:00] What happened on your journey? Because somebody, uh, clearly is as passionate of what you do. There’s always a story behind it, you know?
David: Oh, I am a living story. No doubt about it. Well, actually, uh, it begins very early in life.
I was raised in a, uh, atmosphere of very traditional religious teaching as a child, and I was drug around to all these healing campaigns and I sat there. Around 10 or 11 years old. And I said, why are some people getting healed and some not, because that didn’t work with the, the teachings of an outside God who loved us all, treated us all alike.
And I thought, well, that’s not what is happening. So the seed was planted in me at. Time ’cause I continued to try to find out that answer. Uh, and that did not happen until the late eighties that I [00:05:00] understood, uh, when I came into the understanding of such things as everything is energy. And when I began to understand, uh, that I began to understand that energy is something that we have access to that is, um, that is inexhaustible.
It is an exhaustible, it’s like a source, uh, of, of what we call a source of energy. So, um, I began to try to find out why we didn’t heal. Then I got into more metaphysical teaching and it wasn’t so much the physical healing, but it was manifesting. You know, how do we manifest prosperity? How do we manifest a healing or how do we manifest the right partner and all that?
And I thought, uh, things like the secret and whatever, work for some. Mm-hmm. But not all. It’s always been some, but not everybody. And I’ll tell you to make this a long story short, what I ended up getting, uh, through a breakthrough was that people. Only manifested [00:06:00] at the level of energy that they are connected to and the consciousness that matches it.
So my simple illustration to teaching people this, that they understand is if somebody wanted to write me a big check because they loved what I did and they wanna support it, but by faith, they write me a $10,000 check believing that maybe the universe would back it up, but, but it’s not there. It doesn’t go through because it’s not in the bank.
There’s nothing to back it up. Right. Yeah. So it would go through insufficient fund, but if they say, got the lottery or a bunch of money in the bank and they wrote a check, it’d go through. So energetically I believe that people have been living on survival level. Of our evolution and uh uh, I think we have a energy deficit in that sense.
So I begin to want to find out how can I connect people to [00:07:00] Universal energy source? It’d be like, I tell you what, it’d be like marching people down to the World Bank and getting some money out and then putting it in their account. And then when they wrote checks that went through. So I began to understand how to do that, uh, in a download by using vibration, a combination of vibrations that I made into tuning forks.
And uh, that is what I’ve been teaching for 23 years in my company. So Energetics has been, and teaching practitioners and teachers all over the world how to use these certain combination of frequencies to connect people at that, uh. Coxs level where the Kundalini is coiled and ready to move and be used, but it’s not being used. And I thought, well, how do we do that intelligently? Because you have to be careful with Kundalini work. Yeah,
Guy: I, yeah, I couldn’t agree more. A thousand percent. You know, I, I kind of liken it and. That, that energy, um, when working with [00:08:00] people as to setting up the environment so when the flower is ready to blossom, it will, we don’t, we don’t force it.
We don’t push it. We don’t scream at it. We don’t shake the plant to try and exactly do something before it’s ready. And that’s how I kind of look at this work. And that’s what happened for me. Um, even though there was a part of me that didn’t think I was ready, but I was. You know what I mean? But you were, yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, I wanna close a loop in there, David. Um, ’cause. Everything. I’m nodding my head in a great everything you’re saying. I’m like, Uhhuh Uhhuh and I can’t wait to dive into it. But you spoke about, um, you had a direct experience where everything, you realized everything was energy because I think most people that I come across love the idea of it, that read books on it, but hadn’t really embodied it or understand it from a deeper level. Yes. What is that? What happened to you?
David: Well, you know, sometimes it’s takes something outside of ourself to resonate our own innate intelligence. [00:09:00] Wake it up. And for me it was just reading a little bit about quantum physics. When I started dabbling into that and I started reading Einstein and Max Plunk and some of the early ones, they made a statement that just resonated with me.
It’s like my brain went, what? But my, my mind said yes. So I knew there was a difference between what was going on in my mind and my brain. They weren’t the same thing. So what, what it was, was a, uh, quote that says, uh, about matter. We’ve all been wrong. There is no matter only energy vibrating at frequencies that are perceptible to the five senses.
Now that’s a mouthful. But it is so powerful. Again, everything ma, there’s no matter, that’s why the eastern people call it Maya or illusion. Mm-hmm. Because it’s only frequency patterning the [00:10:00] field of energy. So I thought, okay, if everything is energy and what happened, I’ll tell you that was really, uh, for me was a shift out of the body, mind, spirit model, and that has served us well.
But it still is taking three things and trying to make them separate. When it’s not. It is three forms of the same thing. So if you’d use say, uh, uh, steam, water, and ice, that’s a simple one. And you see three different forms, but they’re all cited water molecules at different temperatures. So that changed everything for me is seeing the whole thing.
And of course, I was a part of the, what we call the within movement. That everything is within you. The kingdom is within you. The spirit is in you. The presence is within you. Everything you need is within you. And we kind of ignored the body and I decided, no, the body is an energy system as much as any part of me.
And that’s why I named it Soma, which is the [00:11:00] Greek word for body, mostly used throughout some of the texts of the sacred scriptures. So, um. Uh, that, that just changed everything for me to see everything from an energetic level and how it’s all connected in one thing and therefore using frequency and vibration. We can change the form of the energy, but we can’t destroy the energy.
Guy: Got you. So now, so two questions for you then, David. I, I’ll try and keep it one, I said I get carried away. Um, that, that’s okay. I do too. So, so. When you, you talked about when some people were healing and some people weren’t. Is that because then of the energy that is not flowing freely or that the frequency isn’t where it should be and.
Is that energy happening or I guess denser because of our [00:12:00] circumstances, our traumas, our ancestors, like, there’s so many facets to these things that are, are that people talk about. I, I’d love to know what your. Your sort term and all that is?
David: Yeah. Well, I call ’em energy discrepancies. Now. Most people use the word blockage, but uh, uh, that’s been so overused I think now that we need to look at it differently.
But yes, I think there’s several things that, uh, in my teachings of the classes that I teach, that one, you have to discern what’s going on with the person. Uh, everybody’s different. And what they’re dealing with is usually a different thing. Uh, it can be the fact of deep emotional. Uh, patterns in the subconscious of unresolved issues that people go through who have been abused or grief or something like that.
That’s, that’s one thing. Another thing that I’ve found out is that some people don’t heal because it’s not their stuff. It’s coming through the ancestral story. [00:13:00] So before I got into vibration and tuning forks, actually I was led into doing DNA activation work back in the eighties. Well, I didn’t know that.
And this is before Bruce Lipton gave us, uh, the fact of epigenetics and the fact that we’re, we’re not set in stone. Uh, but I knew that somehow that you could, uh, you could, uh. Manipulate, uh, for a better word, DNA that didn’t ha have, you don’t have to carry the story of your ancestors. Uh, there’s a, uh, saying I read somewhere, I don’t know in some of the texts, but it said, I see a generation to come that will not walk as their forefathers.
Oh man. And I thought, and think about the word gin or gene oration. So is there a new code and genetics in us that’s ready to be awakened by the right combination of frequencies that are like keys? That opens up a way. Now I’m gonna get this, uh, I’m gonna say this [00:14:00] out of this. Out of this, um, world that we’ve been put into this, uh, simulation, this matrix that we’re caught into and being manipulated by all these downloads of programs, including politics, religion, and everything else, I think the way is not to fix it.
Now, this is what I disagree with. A lot of people, most healing modalities wants to fix it. I don’t, I was asked in meditation when I started this, do you wanna work with what’s breaking down or what’s breaking through? I had no idea in my head what that meant, but I, in the cells of my body, I knew that I was gonna work with breakthrough.
So the reason that there’s so much chaos and breakdown, which we have too much attention to, is because something’s trying to break through. So where are the [00:15:00] lightworkers who are going to join together, create critical mass and work with breakthrough rather than keep trying to fix what’s breaking down?
This is a natural cycle that we’re going through right now. In fact, this is one of the most spiritual times to be alive on the planet right now. It may not look like it with my five senses ’cause I don’t like what I see on the media and what I see on news. I don’t like to see all of this PO polarization that’s going on in the world today.
But in my higher self, I know this is all Spirit because it is the. Caterpillar breaking down to become the butterfly. That’s the simplest way I can say it. And, and, uh, people have to realize that this is a very, uh, spiritual time, um, and that we need people to work with what’s happening in that sense of re-patterning us into what I call the new human.
Now I believe in bio conscious evolution, which is my term [00:16:00] for, uh, raising our conscious and evolving it and bringing it to the cellular level. And that’s why I use BIO with it because I think that if we can match a belief system to our knowing system, see a lot of people believe to know I know and then believe.
I knew a lot of things before I believed it. Yeah, follow me. Yeah. You. Thousand percent. So when I raise my knowing to believing, I’ve raised the frequency of my consciousness, which gets this, drives through the etheric blueprint, cellular development So this is how we’re gonna raise ourself to be this new body of light because the blood that runs in our veins, if you look it up, is congeal light.
It’s trapped light in the density of 3D bodies, but actually in it is the life [00:17:00] and light code. And once we raise ourself, we will have this light shining. In us will be beings of light. Now some call this the merkaba mm-hmm. Or the Merkabah. Yeah. The light body, uh, which is already in us, but we haven’t released it yet, uh, to become the light body. So anyway, I hope that makes some sense to you, but, uh, that’s kind of my vision of this.
Guy: I, yeah, no, I am my head like in agreement with everything you say. Not that I just want to, but the, the fact is, is there’s a couple of points I wanna reiterate for everyone listening is. You know, I don’t watch tv. I don’t watch the news.
I actually give it ZI give it no energy at at all. Yes. And the only thing I focus on is obviously within my, my family circumstances and what I can do to help facilitate and help people that are ready to step in and lean in to this work. ’cause I wanna see a better, a, a better evolution. And I think we definitely get caught into [00:18:00] that trap of, like you say, we keep pushing against, resisting against the very things that we don’t want, as opposed to just focusing on the very things that we want to create in our lives and focus our energy there. It’s a really important point
David: and you know, old saying is what we res, what we resist persists so they don’t understand to be against something is to really feed it with energy. So we need to be in a neutral state in which we judge nothing right or wrong, good or bad, uh, and just let it be what it is and trust the intelligence that everything is going toward the higher. Uh, the higher good of the evolutionary process.
Guy: Yeah. What, like, I’ve got some notes here, you know, um, what’s going on in the planet then? Because we, we often hear about, oh, we’re going from 3D to five D. The frequencies are changing. Some people are not even aware of that, and you either, you either hop on and go with it, or you, if you resist, then.
You’re, you’re resisting something that’s gonna [00:19:00] cause more pain and suffering evidently, or eventually to what’s happening. How do you see this from your perspective, what’s happening? Because it is an incredible time to be alive. I couldn’t agree more.
David: Yeah, well, I think the 3D, four D five D, uh, is a language that we use.
You know, a language is symbolic, so I think we have to be careful about taking stuff too literal. Uh, I do use the idea that I live in a 3D density world, uh, which is my physical body, mental level, and I do talk about five D as a. Level of consciousness that we are trying to evolve and to attain to what’s not being talked about is four D.
Nobody is really dealing with four D because you gotta go through four to get to five D if we use that terminology. And four D is what, uh, some of us, I don’t know how many kind of, uh, believe that is where, uh. Uh, [00:20:00] those who control the order of the planet, whoever you see that being, uh, is kind of, uh, using mind control on the masses of people and therefore they’re, they’re losing that control.
They’re losing that control because people are evolving, people have, uh, more information at their fingertips, such as your program and, and many others are teaching people and, and raising people’s vibration. And the more that we raise that vibration, the more we take away what we’ve been feeding in the past.
So, uh. I, I, I use that language ’cause it’s good, it’s good to, to use it for comparison of, of whatever it is. But, uh, uh, I, I, here’s a, in, in some energetics, what was given to me is that we know we live in, in third dimension. I mean, that’s physics, you know, height, breadth with everything we see. Mm-hmm. And then you have [00:21:00] four D which you have to get through.
Then when you get to five D, and I’m gonna hold this up here. Which is that backwards on here now? No, that’s perfect. Good. Okay. If you look at five D, you catch the spiral. Yeah. The spiral that spirals you into this new multidimensional whole thing of the, uh, uh, you know, it’s not the universe anymore, it’s the multiverse and all that kind of thing.
So we’re understanding all these different dimensions of consciousness, but we need the curve. Now, if you look at most religious teaching, they, they call this the end of the world. Because they don’t understand that it’s going to curve and catch us into an evolutionary spiral that is gonna spiral us into the le next level at what it means to be human.
And I’ll tell you, this is gonna be as powerful as be moving from Homosapien Sapien to Homo Luminous. [00:22:00] Uh, to think this is, it to me is ridiculous. To think this is the end of the journey, but we’re not. We, we have much more potential. We’re not using our potential. We’re not using all of our consciousness, all of our mind.
We’re not using all of our DNA. We use very little DNA and there’s so most of us, that is the true US is in the state of potential. So every time that I use tuning forks and tap ’em together and create that charge, I’m saying to the potential in the person awake into consciousness. Mm-hmm. So I’m awaking the potential, whereas everybody keeps trying again to fix that 10%, 5% or 3% that we’re using all the time and not exploring the uncharted, uh, territory of our possibilities and attention, which is trying to wake up in us. And as it awakens, we begin to see the world differently, ourselves and and each other.
Guy: Amen. Yes. A thousand percent. [00:23:00] It’s, um, I, when you say the Illuminous body, I can, uh. Because of my experiences, I can completely relate to that. I’ve had dozens of mystical experience and experience where, where I’ve, I’ve actually felt that light co through my veins.
It’s a very real visceral thing. And the the, on my journey there, this felt like an adaptation. Within the physicality to allow that to, to, um, run, I, I guess, run through my body easier and be more sensitive to it beyond the five senses. It’s like a, an awareness that you continue to develop, but there’s a physical change going on as well at some level.
David: Yeah. Oh, you’re, you’re saying it very well. You’re saying it very well that, uh, that’s what I like to hear. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. You got it.
Guy: So the, the question I have for you then. Should people fear this because it’s an unknown. It’s change. It’s coming whether people believe it or not. You know, [00:24:00] that’s what I believe and that it’s happening.
So we, we can either like surrender into this and nurture it or we can continue to resist and go in the old paradigm. And I believe is because there’s parts of us that are fearful of change and fearful of leading into that.
David: Yeah, that seems to be a trait of the third dimension human, I call it, is because so many things have built fear into us.
Fear of the unknown, fear of the unfamiliar. I mean, we adapt, and that that’s the legacy of humanity is we’ve learned to adapt and live through famines and wars and all kinds of things. So we’ve learned to adapt to our own illness, our own sicknesses, our own limitations, and people have almost subconsciously become too comfortable.
In that place that when something new is challenges them, they revert back to what’s familiar to them. So this is the challenge of people like ourselves who are trying to get people to move into the unchartered, uh, part of [00:25:00] themselves is to get past that. Fear that, that they have, and of course that’s nothing but the ego mind or whatever you wanna call it, the, the, the lower human mind that, that wants to stop that. Because if enough of us get past that, uh, we’re gonna shift and change the whole consciousness of the planet. I mean, this is big stuff actually on a, on a bigger scale of the bigger picture.
Guy: Yeah. So moving it back and leaning into what you do more, I, I wanna, I want to go there, but when it comes to then healing, and that could be emotional healing, mental heal, physical healing, whatever, whatever that looks like, to me, that means like a, a natural homeostasis for a person. We’re back to our, you know, default true self kind of thing. Mm-hmm.
We always tend to phys focus on the physical. So with all your knowledge and what you’re saying, and, and let’s say we are, we’re in unhappy relationships. We we’re, we’re in a [00:26:00] life that we’re not, we wanna get escape from if, I guess if you like for a better word. Or there’s a deep, there’s a, there’s a deep, um, for me it was always like a deep sadness, loneliness that I used to carry with me, you know? Yeah, yeah. Um. Are you saying then we should be to change our circumstances, we should change our energy.
David: Well, exactly. Good question. Uh, one thing that’s that’s given to me that’s unique to so many energetics teaching is everybody tends to go toward matter before energy. So they say the body has an aura.
No, the aura has and becomes a body. You don’t start here and go out, you start out here in the Cathar, ’cause that, that Crown Energy Center chakra, whatever you wanna call it, uh, spins off into one of the subtle energy bodies called the Cathar. Now I happen to believe that my true self, that. Spirit energy [00:27:00] was created whole and perfect now.
So I don’t buy into a belief in lack that I don’t have something and I need to get it. I’ve already got it in a higher state of my consciousness. I am whole. So we teach our people not to even use the term and label themself as healers, but as facilitators to facilitate self-healing in the person. Right.
So, um, that’s been a, an important part of, of the training and the teaching that we have done. And of course, people who want that label are coming from ego because the ego lives on labels. You know, because when I have a label that’s different from your label, I’m not you and you’re not me, and we’re buying into that moment in which we have bought into a belief of separation.
Which it proves through the body. So here’s the thing, when you come from that outer etheric, you, you have, you know, your causal, you have your astral, you have your mental, [00:28:00] emotional, and all of that coalesce into the last body before the body calling etheric blueprint. Now what’s in the etheric blueprint is what cells look at to reproduce themselves.
So somebody says to me, ’cause I, I made a statement, I think I heard from Deepak Chopper that the liver makes itself every six weeks. And somebody said, no, that can’t be true because if somebody had, uh, cancer of the liver, why would they have it after six weeks? I said, because you didn’t change the blueprint.
The blueprint of your etheric body that held the misinterpretations of your wholeness is less, is what the cell is reading, therefore giving you an inferior body to who you were created to be. So there’s kind of a difference in the level of form and matter and creation. Uh, level, there’s a gap there and that’s where we need to be working in the, um, so-called healing world, is we need to be working in that gap [00:29:00] to bridge and to connect that.
So, uh, the fact of Uni U using tuna forks. True energy work to me is working in that etheric energy body and changing the blueprint that the body can, uh, cells of the body can read a different blueprint than the blueprint that we are presenting to it because, um, and we have proof pretty much that most 99% of illness and disease is in the etheric blueprint, six to nine months before it comes physical.
Hmm. So just imagine we’re training people to find that in the etheric body, six to nine months or a year before it becomes physical and change. I’m changing cause which will change of effect. So we’re healing the body at the etheric level, which will show up in the physical body rather than trying to fix the physical body, uh, which is effect and not change the cause.
[00:30:00] E essentially, you’re going further up the waterfall and where it’s narrower. Right. Where you’ve got more control. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. But that’s energy work. That’s energy work.
Guy: Yeah. No, well explained. Uh, can I ask you a question then? Sure. On that. Wh what, when. Your testing. Do we need to know the circumstances or the issues or the traumas or the, the, the various things that have caused any problem? ’cause we tend to get attached to them pretty much.
David: I think it’s best a story. Sometimes not to, and that’s where I think if you’re gonna be a truly an energy, uh, practitioner, that you first need to go through what it takes to sharpen your intuition. You’ve got to open that. Third eye, that eye of enlightenment to see past, uh, the delusion, uh, the appearance of the five senses and to see, uh, something energetic.
So I may not see, [00:31:00] uh. Particularly cancer MS or some disease, but I may find a mis patterning that is that or be going to become that. So why name it? I think the worst thing we do is start naming, naming things that are nothing but energy discrepancies that are going on and then we give it a name and the doctor tells us we have cancer.
And the minute that we name it cancer, then a seed is planted into our mind of all of the stuff that goes with having cancer, that you’re gonna die, that you’re gonna do this, you’re gonna do that. So I wonder if we just look at it energetically. I have a friend that had terrible cancer, uh uh, and she taught me a great lesson, but she changed her whole attitude and she stopped calling it cancer and called See, answer.
That, that her whole experience was about opening up answers to the depths of her life and, and she changed everything from chemo to Dream O completely changed and took away [00:32:00] the power and the sting of the label of the disease, and she lived years and years beyond what they expected her to do.
Guy: Yeah. Wow. So how do you test then if somebody comes to you and you want to test that field and Yeah. For what, what was the word? You used? Discrepancies. Was that correct?
David: Energy discrepancies. Yeah, energy discrepancies. Blockages. Yeah. Yeah. In other words, it keeps that flow, life flow from flowing through all of the avenues of our, of our being, uh, which. Since everything is energy, but also everything is information. Uh, we sometimes change the information to more misinformation based upon what we’ve been taught and downloaded from outside of ourselves. But if we could just learn to be true to the essence of who we truly are, we would live a different life and walk a different path, but we.
Tend to take too much from the outside world and let them make us into their image of what they want us to think. So this is the importance of, uh, [00:33:00] becoming more independent, I think, from some of these systems, uh, that, that we have. But, uh, yes, I’ll tell you what I do because I do some many different things in this work.
Uh, I do DNA ancestral past life in between life in this life. That I got overwhelmed. So in meditation I got a download of a chart. So when a person comes to see me like a client, 30 minutes before they come, ener, the energy body shows up before the body does. Mm-hmm. So I have this thing and I take, for me it works a pendulum.
Whoever works and I go through in this. Should we work with something in past lives? Yes. Is it in the first chakra between, uh, conception and six years, seven years old? No. Is it in after, uh, is it in the second chakra after seven years old? Yes. Four, five, yes. Five years happened. Now, again, I don’t have to know what [00:34:00] happened.
I just know that something has happened that has stopped the flow of them being able to heal from that. Emotional or physical situation. Then I go in and say, is it a past life issue? Maybe not in that session. No, but it’s an ancestral. That’s why they can’t find an answer to heal themself because it’s not theirs.
It’s something traveling, a mayism that’s coming down through the DNA of their ancestry. Yes, we are to work with that. How many generations back can we undo in this session? 10, no, 8, 7, 6, 0 6 generations back. We can unwind the ancestral generations to clear that. So what I’m saying to you, I have to customize each person to whatever the higher intelligence wants us to work on, rather me just dive in there and do my thing of what I think it should be.
And another thing that I wanna say is it’s important with anybody out there that is working with energy, be [00:35:00] sure and honor the contracts and agreements of the person before they came into that incarnation. Because some things that you think you want to heal and fix is very spiritual and teaching them and driving them toward their destiny, and you don’t want.
To up uproot that. You want to give them the strength and the wisdom to understand why that is in their life so they can learn the lesson and learning the lesson will free them from the symptom.
Guy: Yeah. Wow. So let’s, let’s say you’ve, you’ve gone through that process with people and they walk through your door and you think, okay, I need to work on the, the second chakra. You know, there, there’s, there’s been three generations of issues coming on here and. Uh, what do you do with them? Do? Is that where the tuning forks are coming in, or, or are you using a combination of many modalities? It seems like, you know, you, you’ve got quite a few tools in your toolkit.
David: Yeah, mostly, uh, so Energetics is [00:36:00] about tuning forks because I tell you, I’ll tell you why I love a tuning fork. Uh, one is just raw. Now when I get vibration through music or whatever, it attaches me to emotional. I feel sad, happy. I remember something that happened when I was breaking up or falling in love or something like that. But a tuning fork takes you nowhere. It’s just pure vibration. The second thing I like about it is because it’s not connected to the grid.
So, yes, people can know what we’re doing. People can know what I’m doing on, uh, all the gadgets I have in my car and everything electronic, but they can’t tap into the vibration of a tuning fork. So the tuning fork is, seems primitive, but it’s so pure and raw. So I have a lot of different. Tuning forks in that way.
So what I do is, uh, I do the first phase or what’s called energy vitality technique, and that goes [00:37:00] back to our conversation of we’ve got to have the energy to make the changes in our life. So I have to connect their personal energy field to universal energy field. Remember marching them down to the World Bank.
I don’t like the World Bank, but I’m using that where all the money is. So I’m gonna take ’em where all the energy is beyond their survival level so I can bring it in. To the cos. When I do that, I want to give it over to the chakras because the chakras are intelligent to tell me how to move that energy up the spine intelligently.
So the tuning, it’s amazing. The tuning fork wall stop. Sound differently. And let me know enough here enough. So let’s say your first chakra is a six ounce glass. It’s already got two, but it wants two more. So rather than overstimulate the energy, I let the, the tuning fork, let me know, okay? This is all that this chakra wants to give because then it will assembly into our third energy anatomy body.
So [00:38:00] that’s the first thing that I do. Then the second thing is with DNA Forks, energy body tuners, sometimes if a person already has a situation, I will use the, uh, the meridians. I will use acupressure, acupuncture points. So, uh, we try to cover everything, uh, that makes us up as a whole person, you know, to address like that.
Uh, if you’d let me, I’d like to, I just feel to share something with you because Please. This was, this was a huge crossroads for me. I had a very successful ministry for many years. I was many, many, many years, yeah. Right. And very successful. So when I got into this, I was the devil. People had a fit, you know, like, oh my God, what’s he gone into?
So I was, um, really. Contemplating, what do I do? When I found these tuning forks and the loss, so fagio frequencies, and I was in my office at that time and [00:39:00] by myself and a book literally fell off the bookshelf. My left brain said, oh, well that’s some truck out there vibrating. And it fell off, and my right brain said, Uhuh, you need to listen to this.
So I wouldn’t picked it up. It’s called The Keys of Enoch. It’s a huge book. I didn’t want to deal with it. It’s just very complicated. But it opened up to this and I wanna share it with you. We will not suffer the negative irradiation or excessive ultraviolet radiation that will bombard the places of earth for we will inhabit the safe zones.
At the time of the great geophysical upheavals, the thought adjusters are now correcting and repairing our blood crystallization levels of ionized consciousness. Through frequency attunement. I went, oh my God, that’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to use frequency attunement to free the consciousness of life that’s in the blood that is going to guide us and lead us.
[00:40:00] Through this fourth dimensional chaos and breakdown and polarization. Then it ends with this is the making of a people within a people and a mind of light. Within a mind of light. This change the physical flesh, the temple of the higher garment will receive a new garment of light that was 23 years ago, and that.
Gave me the strength to step out and to say, okay, I’m opening myself up for the downloads on how to use these tuning forks to assist people to ease, make an easier transition into the next level of their bio conscious evolution.
Guy: Beautiful. What kind of, um, you’ve obviously worked with a lot of people. What have you seen, what kind of results have you seen from doing this kind of work?
David: Well, oftentimes that’s what keeps you going, you know, is the, the people that give you the feedback and the testimonies and, [00:41:00] and, and whatever. And that has been a, an amazing part of this journey. Uh, and the people that you meet and the people that are drawn to this type of teaching.
It’s not for everybody at this time, but it’s for those that are at a level in which they’re stepping up and saying, yes, I’m going to be a lightworker. And we need these lightworkers. I, I think it’s so important, um, what I call lightworkers, which is a critical mass of souls who have incarnated for this time, um, that are ready to not just look for what, what is good for just me, but what can I do for the planet?
And, and I, that’s the call I put out is to the lightworkers to come. Mm-hmm. And to use, uh, this, this vibration, uh, frequencies and, and all these kind of things. So, um, wow. There’s so much I could say about that. I could go down a rabbit hole, but, uh, yeah, it, it, it has just been amazing work. [00:42:00] Just amazing work, uh, of the people.
Uh, we we’re in, uh, we’re translated in Japanese, Chinese, French, Spanish. American, of course, and all these kind of things. So we have teachers all over the place. So we’re out there trying to do the work through frequency attunement to release, because I believe that these forks that I use call sgio are six frequencies that are ancient keys.
That opens and awakens the inner codes within us. That makes us ready to take that next leap of evolution into the next level of what it means. You know, when I use this, uh, example of the, um, all the, uh, the caterpillar and the butterfly, which is so simple, but it’s profound. Uh, I tell people that Caterpillar doesn’t go through what it goes through to emerge as an enlightened caterpillar.
Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes through what it’s going through because hidden within it is [00:43:00] a code to become the next thing that it is to become as a butterfly. And I think within us is deep codes in our energy spirit body that is ready to be revealed and activated. That is going to give us a way to make a way for us to make a nice.
Experience of we don’t have to go through such a hard, difficult time. We can actually open portals and vibrational pathways. That’s gonna make us easy to go over into the next level without all of the um. Chaos and whatever. That’s for those who are not. Chaos is for those who are not, uh, opening up for the change.
Those who are, like we said, staying in their comfort zone and what’s familiar, it’s gonna take chaos to shake them loose, but we can make a different choice and say yes to the universe and yes to the how the universe is going to [00:44:00] proceed to help us to make this journey. Through five four D, which by the way, four D is where the mind control has been for a long time, but it is losing its power and that’s why you see it rising up in the political world and all these religious and everything else.
Everybody is trying to hold on and go back. They think making things great is going back to something and, and, and it’s not, it’s going forward into the unchartered, unknown part of ourself and that’s what we gotta help people to, to get rid of that fear and see it as the greatest adventure of their life. To, to move on.
Guy: No, for sure. For sure. But I think just to maybe re uh, the question in a different way is that if people. Come and actually experience this work and do that. How, how have you seen it show up in their lives? Like, are we talking about different diseases going away or is it, has there been pain elimination? Because, [00:45:00] because a lot of people listening to this podcast will be in a place of, uh, you know, wanting to lean in, but also there’ll be elements that they wanna wanna move past.
David: Sure. Well, again, as I say, uh, I, I never diagnose an illness or sickness. I never label it or name it. ’cause people’s always asking me, what can I do for this? What can I do for that? What you can do is get in homeostasis. That’s the first thing is get in balance, get aligned. With all that you are and, and, uh, then all of those things are the byproduct. You’ll, the, he, the physical healing is the byproduct of what you do in the soul realm, or whatever you wanna call it, the energy realm.
When you change that, this will change. So again, I think we have our, you know, pain and illness is a very demanding destruction. I don’t say destruction, but it’s, uh, it, it, it, it takes our attention away from the real work, uh, that is in us. So to get people past that is a challenge. No doubt about it. And the challenge [00:46:00] has been in this work of preventive work, you know.
Um, I remember back years ago, we used to tune our cars. We don’t do it anymore, but I tuned my car ’cause I didn’t want it to break down. People tune their piano because they don’t want it to go out of tune, but yet we don’t tune ourselves so that we don’t get sick and, and Ill, so that’s what I’ve tried to teach people to do.
But yes, we’ve heard everything, but sometimes it shows up emotionally. Mentally. Yeah. People get free. Uh, people find out that as they release these old patterns, that they create space for new energy to come in and they become more energetically inclined to have access to the energy to manifest it. And of course, that’s where things come in, like using thoughts become things and your mental attitude.
And, uh, that’s where all that happens. But now you have the energy to do that. It’s not a mental construct. See, I don’t, I don’t buy into this. Positive thinking is a mental construct. But I do believe in spiritual thinking. [00:47:00] Yeah. Positive thinking is better than negative thinking. Don’t, don’t misunderstand me, but I don’t think it’s the answer to everything.
Uh, I, I, I don’t think that all the time works to heal you, but it may bring you into a more positive state that you can then be healed, but it’s not gonna heal you. But it may help you to find yeah, that healing in yourself. Uh, I wanted to show you my tuning forks here, please. These are my six tuning forks right here that are called the Sgio Frequencies.
These are some powerful, powerful frequencies and I just, uh, this is mostly what we teach people and how to use them together because they, they create, all of these are a vibration of three, six, and nine. Which Tesla said, when man understands three, six, and nine, he’ll have a key to the universe. So no matter what we do to these frequencies in harmonics, it never loses three, [00:48:00] six, or nine.
So, um, these are phenomenal forks, but this is where you kind of start out with us in phase one, uh, that you can learn it to use on other people or you can kind of use them on yourself or whatever. But, uh, as. This, uh, this 5 28, you may have heard of the 5 28. It’s kind of a movement out there of the 5 28 Love frequency, which is doing phenomenal things for people all over the world.
Uh, and it’s, it’s an amazing, which, by the way, these are all Latin, which is Maro Gas in Latin, which means miracle, but also biochemists was using to repair DNA. Hmm. And this is the one that I wanted to get for my DNA activation was this one when I found out about the other ones. So I just had ’em all made ’cause somebody said, because I couldn’t find it in Western music.
You gotta understand Western music is a part of the [00:49:00] box we live in. It’s called Boxed in Music because it closes, uh, closes the octave. C to C. C to C. But the thine came along and said, I tell you what, let’s don’t close the octave. Let’s overshoot it. And when he did, he found the spiral between planets and all of the heavenly bodies and brought it down into music and sound, and started using it in his mis min, uh, mystery school and started healing people and whatever.
In other words, he brought heaven to earth. Through vibration and sound. So these, uh, frequencies are, are just tremendous. And we could talk about that maybe another time and, and get into them. But you can get on our website and you can see a whole lot about ’em on so energetics.com. Yeah.
Guy: Beautiful. I, I just gotta ask you though, because you hear it all the time and you already touched on it. Um, and it could be just a, a brief answer, but what are soul visual? If I pronounce it frequencies. ’cause you hear that word [00:50:00] all the time, it’s buzz, you know, and it’s like, well what does that mean?
David: Yeah. Well, uh, so Fagio was a, a system of sounds or vibrations that was used in ancient times. We really don’t know how far they go back, uh, uh, Egypt, uh, into the Greek mystery schools. And finally it ended up in the pre-Christian Catholic, um. Uh, Gregorian Chance Now, this was before Ian. Fourth. Fourth, uh, the fourth century when it was organized into the Christian Church. That was a whole different group of people. The Senes, the Gnostics, uh, Kabbalah. All of those things are pre.
Organized religion. So they were using this and singing these freak uh, songs and they were having all kinds of experiences. They were, they were finding the divine in themselves. And of course when the church decided to go fear-based, [00:51:00] they shut this down and closed it up and changed the tuning of these frequencies.
Then they were rediscovered, uh, finally after the 17th century. They were found, found again in 1974. And, uh, that’s when I, I read about them and I thought, I really wanna know more about this. So I couldn’t find it, these frequencies in any Western music. So someone just said to me, out of the blue, you can have a tuning fork made in any frequency you want. So I said, well, I wanna get this 5 28, but why? Why don’t we get all six of them made? And when I held those forks in my hand, I stood at a fork in the road.
My book, A Fork in the Road, literally, and I, uh, I, I decided to take that fork in the road and, uh, to see what would happen. And I just began to get downloads how to use these things, [00:52:00] uh, 23 years ago. So it it, it’s been a wonderful experience to get a download of something that nobody else was doing. ’cause I think we, we end up doing more what other people have done, thinking what other people has thought.
And I think we need to expand our consciousness and realize there’s so much potential out there to become good new entrepreneurs of new techniques, new businesses, the new model, the new model that’s trying to break through. And I think that frequency is where you want to go back to. And vibration.
Guy: Yeah. I couldn’t agree more. Beautiful David. Um, so if people want to learn more, obviously they can just go to your website somewhere, energetics.com. Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah. And then, uh, and your book as well. Well, that, that will have information in there around the forks itself and the frequencies and everything. Yeah.
David: Yeah. It tells my journey to the forks, and then it tells you about the forks and, and, uh, how, how we use ’em and how to, [00:53:00] whatever. It’s a, it’s a. Pretty powerful little book I have to say. So you can get it, you can get the book itself, or you can get it, uh, uh, down loan downline as a, uh, as a, as a whatever they call that. MP three. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Guy: No, I know technology. That’s okay. Um, I got one last question for you then, uh, David, uh, which to wrap up the podcast, which I always ask everyone on the show is, but, um, with everything we’ve covered today, what would you like to leave the listeners to ponder on?
David: Well, I would like for them to. Ponder or contemplate on the fact again, that the time we’re living in a breakdown is because of breakthrough. And if they’ll get on the side of breakthrough, then we can absolutely change and shift the entire energy patterns of what makes up this world, uh, and, [00:54:00] and, and bring it into what’s called the new earth.
Yeah, and for them to realize that they’re already created whole, that they don’t have to be in a state or a belief of lack or separation, but that all things are already accomplished in the higher atmospheres of their consciousness. We just need to get there, work with the wholeness rather than what’s broken, and we can begin to see some wonderful things manifested in our life that will transform everything for the life of the person.
Guy: Yeah. Fantastic. David, thank you so much. I, I really enjoyed our conversation today. It was fascinating. Well, thank you and I have no doubt when it, when it goes out, a lot of people will get a lot out of this conversation today.
David: I hope so. And thank you for having me. I really appreciate having a platform for my voice.
Guy: Yeah, you’re very welcome, mate. You’re very welcome. Thank you, David. Thank you.
David: Thank [00:55:00] you.