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Spiritual Odyssey: Awakening to Higher Realms | Julian Polzin

February 20, 2026 Cyrus Bacat

#401 In this episode, Guy talked with Julian Polzin, a former psychotherapist turned spiritual teacher, and shared his profound awakening experience that began while grieving on a graveyard bench in Germany, leading to a complete dissolution of ego and entry into samadhi.

Through deep meditation practices, he began remembering hundreds of past lives as a Buddhist monk and yogi, receiving downloads of ancient yogic systems and experiencing visions of Atlantis and its fall due to spiritual corruption and transhumanist technology. He explained how dark entities on the astral plane compete for human souls by offering temptations that disconnect people from divine will, and how the Buddhist system was designed to counteract the Atlantean karma of the hyperactive intellect separated from God.

Julian warned that humanity is repeating the Atlantean pattern with AI, transhumanism, and recent technological interventions that disconnect individuals from divine current, leading to a timeline split between those who surrender to God and those who fall into ego gratification.

Now based in Peru’s Sacred Valley, he works to build a monastery and teaches proper spiritual discernment, emphasizing that true liberation requires total surrender, renunciation of worldly attachments, and the guidance of a genuine teacher assigned by divine will.

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About Julian: Julian practices and teaches Zen-Buddhist methods in combination with the Yogic realization process and various other mystical practices. On his spiritual path he opened himself to mystical insight. He experienced realization beyond physical experience which changed his therapeutic approach.

In 2021 he traveled to Nepal to meditate in holy places to experience the land, ancient energies and intelligences of a non-material nature. He practiced psychotherapy in Germany for seven years, but moved on from the method after experiencing the limitations of the psychotherapeutic framework.  Now he focusses on sharing spiritual teachings of direct inquiry to assist his clients in realizing themselves through the mystical experience.

►Audio Version:

Key Points Discussed:

  • (00:00) – Spiritual Odyssey: Awakening to Higher Realms!
  • (00:42) – Welcome + What This Conversation Will Challenge
  • (01:47) – Retreat Announcements & How to Connect
  • (02:32) – Meet Julian: From Psychotherapist to Awakening
  • (03:54) – Grief on the Graveyard Bench → Spontaneous Samadhi
  • (06:32) – Two Weeks of Emptiness + Finding Words for It
  • (07:35) – Channeling Zen, Kundalini & Past-Life Memories
  • (12:28) – Integrating Trauma, Avoiding Ego Traps & Buddhist Prep
  • (16:04) – Quitting the Day Job: Total Surrender vs “Spiritual Gold Rush”
  • (20:27) – Atlantis Vision: Transhumanism, Tech Corruption & Timeline Split
  • (27:17) – How Atlantis Fell: The ‘Ascension Engine’ and No Shortcuts
  • (30:20) – Dark Entities Explained: Temptation, Energy Feeding & the Lower Astral
  • (33:20) – Escaping the Astral Trap: Renunciation & Liberation
  • (34:09) – Atlantis Repeat? Psychic Awakening Without Ego Death
  • (34:40) – Buddha’s Non-Reaction System & Starving the Ego
  • (35:24) – Modern Overstimulation: Why Awakening Needs a Foundation
  • (37:41) – Karmic Gravity & the Problem with the ‘New Age’ Gold Rush
  • (39:21) – Civilizations Fall Through Spiritual Corruption (Inca, Tibet, Egypt)
  • (41:48) – Visions of a Timeline Split: Transhumanism, Collapse & ‘New Earth’
  • (44:40) – Suffering vs Surrender: How Souls Learn by Law
  • (46:39) – Karmic Repeats: The Same Choices Across Lifetimes
  • (49:25) – A Tibetan Lama’s Mistake: Spiritual Ego & the Teacher’s Test
  • (52:53) – True Lineage, Daily Tests & ‘Selling the Soul’ Explained
  • (55:42) – Why Souls Reincarnate: God’s Mirror, Surrender & Enlightenment
  • (01:00:29) – Peru Monastery Vision, Money Discernment & Where to Find Him

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TRANSCRIPT

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Julian:
I experienced a complete end of psychological activity. There was no thought, no memory. It was a complete annihilation. I’ve experienced the rise and fall of Egypt. I was part of the rise and fall of Tibet. I experienced many of these civilizations rising and fall before every four came. A spiritual corruption. The technology was used to disconnect the individual from the divine current. And this is the Atlantian Karma, and it is repeating.

Guy:
Guy here. Welcome to my podcast. My awesome guest today is Julian Polzin. And boy does this podcast go deep. Not only do we get into his own experience from being a psychotherapist to his spiritual awakening to past life remembrances, but we dive into the topic of cycles and the rise and fall
of civilizations, and you know where we are right now. On our evolution as humanity. It’s a fascinating conversation and he shares his perspectives of what he’s seen, what he’s shared, and what he believes is happening collectively right now. Now, one thing I wanna mention is you. You know, some of these conversations can challenge people’s worldview. That’s okay.

What I like to do with these podcasts is look at them more like an invitation of a discussion. And when people share their views, I like to reflect on them, stay open and think deeply about what’s been spoken about. And then. You know, apply it in my own life with what resonates. And I’ve always felt that with all my podcast guests and this one’s no different today. So I felt like I wanted to share that with you as well. But of course, let me know where you are in the world. Let me know where you think of this conversation with Julian. He’s a good guy. We had some fun and he’s based out in Peru. I mean, it is pretty remarkable what he is doing. And of course, let me where know where you are in the world.

All these ways to connect is always beautiful. We will be in Bali in June this year. Our retreat is selling out. If you want to come and join us for five days, ma, when you’re in a mystic, please come and join us in Bali in June, 2026. End of June, I should say. You won’t regret it. You will be with some amazing, beautiful souls. There’s other resources blow in the description as well if you wanna find out more. Of what we’re up to. Anyway, much love from me. I hope to get to meet you in person somewhere someday soon. Enjoy this podcast. See ya.

Guy:
Here we are, we are recording. Julian, welcome to the podcast, my man

Julian:
Well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

Guy:
mate. Uh, I, I couldn’t resist when I, when I kind of glanced at your journey and, you know, and now you’re out in Peru, I thought, wow, this is a guy that’s living, um, a very sincere, authentic and, you know, you’re doing a good message out there. So it’s my pleasure to be able to amplify it
if I can in any way and, and introduce you to, you know, my audience and many others that will stumble across it. So I have no doubt today will be a great conversation, mate. And, um, if I was, uh, next to you and you’re a complete stranger, uh, you know, the intimate dinner party say, and I asked you what you did for a living though, how would you respond?

Julian:
Well, originally, um, I worked as a psychotherapist, uh, in Germany for seven years. And, um, I was ready to settle into that. I was like, okay, this, this is the meaning of my life. This is what I’m gonna do for the rest of, uh, this temporary existence. But then, uh, Divine has other plans, so I went through an awakening experience.
It must have been around, I think 2016.

Guy:
huh.

Julian:
Where I experienced a profound loss in my life, and at the time, I didn’t
meditate. I wasn’t a spiritual practitioner. I was solely working as a psychotherapist. But then after this loss that I experienced, I tried to deal with the grief that I was experiencing. I started walking on a graveyard every day. And mind you, graveyards in Europe, they’re very beautiful. They’re ancients. You have beautiful gravestones, old trees, and I started sitting on the park benches there, not really under understanding what I was doing, but for half a year I was sitting there watching the gravestones watching when people died.

They were soldiers from World War II on that gravestone. So it gives you a good perspective about impermanence. And I watched the grief of my ego. I watched the noise, how it was screaming, how it was yelling, and I didn’t understand that. I began detaching from the ego idea. So at some point I was watching this illusion to such a degree that I felt, oh, this pain, this noise is so over exaggerated. It’s, it started to seem unreal to me. I stopped believing in it. And suddenly out of nowhere, I entered the state that if we would use technical terms would be samati. So I experienced a complete end of psychological activity. There was no thought, no memory, no psychic activity, no personality, no identity.

It was a complete annihilation. And this annihilation happened while watching these thoughts and having this very simple idea. I said, I’m so tired of fighting this pain. So something in me completely surrendered and in that moment of surrender, personality was annihilated. Sense of time was gone. There was no sense of pastoral future. There was simply awareness left and not even an eye sense attached to the body. I was watching the body, but there was no feeling of this is me and this is how it started.

Guy:
I jump
in there. Thank you for sharing. So did you say you were on a park bench when you, um, experienced Sam Marty, or was that in a meditation, or how did it come about? That awakening?

Julian:
It, it was on a park bench and I wasn’t practicing meditation.

Guy:
you were just present.

Julian:
Yes, I was just watching, but I didn’t realize, and we can get into that at some point. Um, the reason I woke up that day, of course it’s not an accident. So after I experienced samati, so the complete annihilation of identity, which I was in for maybe two weeks,

Guy:
Oh,

Julian:
or four thoughts a day. That, that, that was it.

Guy:
holy

Julian:
I could still move, I could still act intelligently with my environment, but I had no sense of identity except I am awareness, I am emptiness. And that wasn’t even a thought, just an an experience.

Guy:
Did you have anyone else around you that
you were confided in, in this, or was you just like L by yourself leaning into, you know, the S of the world and things like that? Or speak about these experiences?

Julian:
See, that’s an interesting thing because I, I wasn’t in touch with any of that. So it happened completely organically. Interestingly, when you speak about AKA Tola, I started reading the Power of of Now shortly after experiencing samari. And when reading it, I realized, oh, the exact same thing that he described.
I experienced, so that kind of put it together at the time. But the reason Samari actually occurred for somebody who wasn’t practicing because it’s very important to discern the ego from the soul. The personality is not the soul. And shortly after Samari, I started, uh, writing down Zen poems and for some reason started writing a whole system of Zen Buddhist practice.

That Julian, the person was never initiated in or had any formal training in, but it was utterly precise. So I started channeling that basically. From my own subconscious through the state of Samari, but then later through more advanced forms of yoga that I simply knew how to do. Nobody instructed me in any of this. I would simply have deja vu of how to do it. I would sit down in meditation and the proper practices would arise. So I started practicing Panama. Then I started practicing Kundalini yoga, and suddenly I start remembering my past lives. In many of these past lives, I have been living as a yogi many times as a Buddhist monk.

Um, I was a zen Buddhist monk in Japan, but I also experienced many lifetimes of being a monk in Tibet as well as a yogi in India, in the tantric practitioner. So then I started having first these deja vus. I remember one time I was sitting in meditation at home. Suddenly my body language started changing and like somebody else had entered me and after meditation, I got up, I was standing in the kitchen and my wife suddenly walks in and says, Julian, you are you, but you’re also not you. So she was recognizing that suddenly a past life of me had taken control, and through that, downloads would occur that yogic systems would be transmitted into my nervous system. I would start applying these practices.

Guy:
So you felt the presence of a past life?
’cause I, I meditate daily, you know, I was up to what 5:00 AM every morning and, and I feel presence come in to the field. And you’re saying you felt your past life come into you. Did you know it was a past life of your own soul? Or at that point, how does that work?

Julian:
Well, interestingly, in the way that the divine confirms these type of experience,
because confirmation is important, um, it usually starts with a hunch, a sense of deja vu and something that shouldn’t be natural to your current personality. Suddenly you do it in a very natural way, like you have done it a hundred thousand times out of nowhere. But there is a profound, deep sternness knowing behind it that you have done this before. So when that occurs slowly through the effects of the yoga that are then practiced, that leads to more details and synchronicities. And at some point it was more than deja vu. At some point I would, for example, sit in meditation and I would open my eyes somewhere in India, in an ashram and look at my students. Like 200 years earlier.

Guy:
Yeah. Right.

Julian:
Yeah. So, or I would go to certain places. Uh, for example, I did a pilgrimage in, in Nepal in 2021,
and the locals treated me like a local, and they came to me for teaching to this like white guy, yogi. I’m like, why are you coming to me? People? But they sense something, um, about my, let’s say, connection to the place. And when I would walk to Temples, for example. To certain places in nature, I would have flashbacks of having been there. There was, for example, uh, a river in nearby where I washed myself in and I had a glimpse of a Buddhist monk that was me collecting water with, with a vase from the exact same river in the exact same spot.

Guy:
Wow. Wow. So when you, when this was unraveling and I’m, I want to, I’m speaking with all the listeners in mind here. Okay. Julianne as well, like,
is like, when that, those moments started unraveling to me, like you, you’re sharing it very calmly, like was it like. Shocking and wondrous, or was this like, oh, I, I just now remember I had all these lives and, you know, and you’re just slowly integrating it. Like, ’cause even the way you described the grief, I, I know you haven’t touched on, uh, who you were grieving or anything, but the, the way you described the grief and that process, it feels like a very, um, held space that you’ve been able to do from the moment that unraveling, that unwinding out of your personality started to happen. Is that, is that right or am I off the mark here?

Julian:
Well, uh, to be straightforward, the conclusion always sounds calm. Yeah. In retrospect. But of course when it started happening, um, initially in the Samati experience, um, it was, this is ultimate piece. There’s actually nothing beyond that. So in the Samati moment, there’s no suffering whatsoever. But what then happened later is when I started remembering my past lives, then suddenly identity
starts forming again. Because the problem is, let’s say the average human being struggles with their own memory, with their childhood memory, with what happened in high school with maybe, uh, certain traumas that they have experienced in life. But when you suddenly can remember hundreds of lifetimes also of severe trauma, then it becomes very challenging because the ego will try to grab a hold of this and build a new identity, and then a battle starts within the yogi.

Then there needs to be renunciation of identity and these enormous psychic currents that then occur, especially when higher forms of yoga are performed. Um, if there’s any attachment to, for example, fame, to worldly desire, to money to sexuality, whatever it is, it’ll lead to a destabilizing energy and it would lead to psychosis. Just, first of all, I had a psychotherapy education, so I could kind of understand what was going on with me on that level, but also, um, simply the strong, intuitive knowing that I had done this before, so it wasn’t the first time going through it, even though to the current personality, it seems to be a novelty, but the challenge is indeed to not be reactive.

Because ego is actually reactivity. Karma is literally that reactivity. So the key is to have a very strong, basic mindfulness practice that leads to a detachment from psychic content. So identity cannot arise and. That’s why these type of experiences, they don’t happen for average people because it would throw them into psychosis. They wouldn’t be able to integrate that. Therefore, it takes a lot of preparation and one of the best systems to prepare oneself for such events is the Buddhist system. Because the Buddhist system is an ego deconstruction system. It’s basically the practice. If you think about, uh, Zen Buddhist practice in Japan, for example, it is the practice to cultivate the opposite of a fight or flight state.

’cause a fight, fight or flight state, for example, if you would get into a car crash, the first thing your body would do is raise your hands to protect your head. You would raise your shoulders, you would harden your jaw, right? This is the fight or flight response. And when you look at zen practice, for example, it’s the very opposite. It’s the dropping of the shoulders, it’s the straightening of the spine, it’s the extending of the out breath. And when we practice that extensively. We can deal with higher voltages of psychic current without having a contraction in the system.

Guy:
Hmm.

Julian:
if there’s a contraction, there’s attachment and it creates ego and identity, and then the practitioner is in trouble.

Guy:
That really resonates.
Absolutely. I love the way you break that down. Totally. That’s fantastic. So on this journey then, let’s just, um, get to how you ended up in Peru and when did you quit your day job? You said you were practicing for seven years, you having all these experiences. Was there a definitive moment, like, right, I’m gonna follow this path, detach from. You know, surrender to it fully and trust in, in the universal guidance. A hundred percent. ’cause that’s what it feels like you’re doing. And you know, that’s not easy to do in any

Julian:
But there, there’s no other way of doing it.

Guy:
Mm

Julian:
Yeah. When, when people think, and, and this is what I see in many practitioners at this time, they think they can commit to spiritual practice, 80%, 85%, maybe 70%, but surrender to God must be total. Yeah. And now we live in a, in an age of a psychic gold rush. Yeah.
People have starting having astral experiences and they get very high on that, which by the way is the Atlantian karma. We, we, we can get into that if, if you’re interested. So when we start opening up, uh, psychically, it’s very important to understand this is your new realm of attachment. Yeah, before people were chasing Ferraris, BMWs sex experiences, and then suddenly there are these new, uh, objects of ego attachment.

Oh, I had a Kundalini awakening and it becomes a new form of narcissism. But to answer your question of why I ended up in, in Peru and why I’m following this, uh, guidance because. In the many lifetimes of spiritual training that I have received in, in many different systems, it was always about full concentration on God. Yeah. Even as it says in the Bible, let line I be single, single pointedness. And when you leave any gap for the ego, when you say, I take something for God now from God, now I become a spiritual coach and I create this business. This honesty starts entering everything must be Gods the person. The ego doesn’t own anything.

And that was also the struggle in my psychotherapy practice because I said I couldn’t be authentic with people anymore because I was looking through the whole charade of the psychiatry system, even though psychotherapy can be very useful, the issue that that I saw profoundly, it was all about reprogramming mind, but it wasn’t about transcending mind. So it was a lower form of practice, so to speak, that helps many people understand that. But when somebody goes through a spiritual awakening that is profound, um, their own identity that is created cannot survive that experience. And it was very clear to me that. If I want to be of assistance to, um, the collective consciousness or to society, um, then I have to fully commit to the spiritual path. And I realized when I started doing psychotherapy with people, that this would impose limitations and these limitations I couldn’t accept anymore.

Guy:
But do you, I’m just curious, do you feel when you’re seeing people like that, would they be open and do they want to know the whole truth? Are they ready for that? You know what
I’m saying? Exactly, exactly. So it’s, it’s challenging, isn’t it? You, you know, ’cause it’s, it’s like the question I ponder on often is, are we being denied to recognize our own divinity? Like, is the, is the world set up in such a way that it’s, it’s almost like they don’t want you to know? Or is it just through our own sheer ignorance that we’ve just separated ourselves from it and got involved in the, in the gold rush that’s happening there? Certainly techno, techn, uh, technological that’s happening, right?

That we, we give our power to ai. We’re giving our power to the iPad, the screens, all that’s drawing our attention and is pulling us away from ourselves and actually the most advanced AI technology on the planet, which is our bodies, you know? So it’s fascinating. I was just wondering if you have opinion on that.

Julian:
Well, that’s profound what you just said, and I will tell you that you subconsciously remember more than you think you remember, because the statement that you just made is a very profound one. So, uh, I, I give you an example of where this all started, eh, technology, transhumanism versus divine law, and let’s say in the spiritual, uh, mystical schools that would compete with that.
Um, in the Atlantian age, and that was interesting because when, when I was already in Peru, I, at some point I was lying in bed in at night and I had a three hour nonstop vision of Atlantis, like I was there. In great detail. And what I saw was profound. There were two major affections inlands. One were the children of the law of one.

These were those who were following divine law, and they had a great spiritual teacher. Grant master th and grant, master th was actually debating the transhumanists in the council chamber in the realm of politics. So basically like, uh. Um, like the, the main body of a nation that where all the politicians gather. So he was debating there, the transhumanists, he was standing tall and he was saying, uh, to the transhumanists who were believing at the time that they were, they were evolving. The transhumanists were believing that if they use technology to enhance their bodies, that they would evolve to a more divine state.

But they were actually perverting their systems. Through genetic modification, through introducing technology into the system and these two ty type of affections in Atlantas, those who were serving the lightweight, those who later became the yogis and they said Go within nor thyself, but the majority wanted to be led and was actually afraid to do that because if you go within, you have to face your own darkness. You have to face your shadows. And they didn’t want to do that. So they were looking for some sort of externalization of the divine. And every time there’s an externalization, it becomes a perversion. It becomes a distortion. So then those people who. Um, got high on this type of spiritual gold rush, the opening up of the astro realms.

At the time, they would get in touch with entities, for example, reptilian entities, dark AI entities that existed on the lower astral plane. And this might be fascinating for people because technology can exist in the, in the as. It’s just much more subtle. So those dark priests who got in touch with, with this type of intelligence, they got tempted because the beings who were inhabiting those dimensions were much more experienced in those dimensions. So they had to drop on those human priests, and they would trick them by saying, if we give you a certain technology or if we bombard your brain with a certain frequency, you will be intellectually enhanced. And that’s what they did. So interestingly, the intellect as we know it right now, the western mind is actually the atlantian mind.

And through this frequency bombardment that they did with technology, it led to a hyperactive intellect and the killing of the intuition. Suddenly, the soul was boxed in in a body with a hyperactive mind and couldn’t sense the law of God anymore, or the voice of God couldn’t hear it anymore because there was the, the constant repeating. Of obsessive compulsive thought mechanisms. So these type of dark entities successfully cut off a certain part of humanity from the intuitive perception of the divine. But in their hubris, the atlanteans did not admit the mistake. Like an addict, they would do more augmentations and fall even further.

Master thos saw all of this coming. And this is why he went with his master students to Egypt to create new mystery schools because he knew in Atlanta, these type of mystical systems could not survive. Since all of this is synchronistic right now, we are in society in the same situation. AI is coming up. Transhuman isn’t coming up. Certain agents have been introduced into the human system. I’m saying popular injections in the, in the last two years because of a so-called pandemic and these popular injections. At the time I wasn’t thinking much about it, but it was actually happening when I was on my pilgrimage in Nepal and I was in a meditation group at the time.

There was a local young man who said he just got his injection in the shoulder. I’m not saying a certain way, a word on purpose because I don’t want you to get demo monetized. So he got the injection in the shoulder and I was meditating, and I saw his energy body in meditation. And usually if I see a human energy body, the ethereal field, I see it in a beautiful orange to golden color. Now the rest of his body was in golden orange color, uh, color, but his shoulder was completely black, completely atrophied, and black strands were moving from the shoulder into the heart vortex, and the heart vortex was completely degenerated. Degenerating in that moment was becoming black, looked like a shriveled mushroom.

And in that moment it dawned on me that the technology was used to disconnect the individual from the divine current. And this is the Atlantian Karma and it is repeating, and we had a timeline split in that moment when that agent was reduced into humanity because everybody had to make a choice upon this to either take an injection or not, or not take an injection. So when you say our bodies. They’re the best AI there is there, you know, something deep down that actually through yoga, through proper spiritual practice, through concentration on God, we elevate these bodies naturally and they don’t have to be enhanced by technology, which actually inhibits the ability to then a sense spiritually.

Guy:
Wow. There’s a lot in there. Yeah. Look, it’s, it is interesting that you tell it because I’ve had Greg Braden come on,
uh, talk about this. He just released a book called Pure Human at the beginning of 2025. I, he’s actually coming back on next week to dive deeper into these, these kind of topics that you, that you’re speaking of right now. What was the fall of Atlantis then? What actually, how did it collapse? Like, have you, have you seen that in your own meditations and experiences?

Julian:
Yeah. So the transhumanist side, what they try to do, they try to create a machine. To turn human beings into a pure energy state. But in order to power that machine, they start drilling into the Earth core and they destabilize the tectonic plates. And when they did that, earthquakes started happening.
Tsunami started happening, but as far as I understand, what I saw was the final collapse of Atlantis. There have been several catastrophic, catastrophic events before the final collapse. Then by trying to bid an ascension engine, they try to basically bypass the law of God. And the truth is that in spiritual practice there are no shortcuts.

Any shortcut is the long way around. I wanna be very clear on this. If we try to enhance ourselves, if we try to, for example, use psychedelics instead of yoga, if we try to use technology instead of meditation, if we try to. Do these things. They have common consequences and they actually keep the soul ENT trap longer. But because the Atlantians wanted to progress, they tried to use technology to skip ahead to not having to do the shadow work, to not face their owns. So by trying to insert a cheap code into the system, they doomed themselves.

Guy:
Fascinating. The thing is, like when I look at today, ’cause I, I’m in front of a lot of people. I see people all the time and many people are not even aware of their own shadow work in the first place. Like they saw, I identify with the personality and their experience and their perception
of it. They’re unable to have, they haven’t developed any kind of awareness to separate themselves from their mind, their emotions and their feelings, and actually look at it from a different, from a different vantage point. Do you know what I’m saying?

So, so it, it’s, it’s to even talk, you know, to start to wrap your head around the very concepts you’re speaking of can feel such a cognitive distance, like such a million miles away because I can’t even manage my own inner feelings and I’m not even gonna go there. So I’m just gonna throw rocks at the world and just say how bad it is and, and look for my little spiritual rushes and my different experiences, whether it be alcohol, drugs, breath work, whatever it might be to get myself high and actually never deal with it.

Anyway. So with all that in mind, I’m curious to know as well then, because you speak about the astral plane and you speak about different energies, tricksters, different. You know, elementals that can actually influence us. Why is that happening on this, this playing field? Then how, how is all this come together? What are they getting from it? If that is going on?

Julian:
Alright, well first of all, um, negative entities or demonic entities, they have a reason for existence. And the reason for existence is they are the free will agents. Because in truth, in truth, when a practitioner, and it doesn’t matter what tradition their practitioner is from, if he’s Christian, if he’s Hindu, if he’s Buddhist, but when he starts focusing on God, they are practicing to surrender their own separate will.
So they want the mind of God to replace their own little mind. Yeah. And that is fusion or yoga, if you will. Dark entities, their purpose is to delay that. So they offer the opposite of di Divine, divine will. So for example, you sit in meditation and suddenly you hear, oh, uh, I’m tired of meditation right now.

I’d rather go, let’s say, uh, watch some pornography or whatever. These little voices, these are actually demonic influences from the lower Astro. What do they get from it? Well, that’s very simple. They themselves are not directly connected to God, so they need energy. They’re energy addicts, so they need source beings that are connected to God so they can steal energy from, and they do this in such a way that they, for example, try to through suggestion, get you into actions that go against divine law. For example, sexual perversions violence. Um, addictions, materialism. So they try to give you these type of temptations and impulses, and we feel this in the lower part of the body, everything below the solar plexus. And when we feel impulses there, if we respond to these impulses, the dark entities, they gain in energy because we are now starting to emit frequencies that they can exist in.

This is what they feed off. So they need a step down version of divine energy. They cannot receive divine energy directly because if they would, their separation from God would seize and separation is what they strive for. So they try to get the human who is experiencing both, that means soul and the lower trow. And they basically try to compete over the, so with the sole identify with the lower trow. Then they gain an energy. If the soul identifies with God, they lose in energy. So it’s a competition over the soul. And why is, is that happening in the lower astral? Because it’s the frequency band that is the closest to the physical.

So any genuine yogi actually will not interact with the Aral play much. They actually practice to destroy their own aral body. And to get past the astro planes to enter at a higher point where there is no interference. Think of the Astro plane as a playing field where divine beings can play, but also demonic beings can, can play, but the divine beings have to step down their energy to be perceivable to the average practitioner. But a yogi. Will at some point through renunciation, through the destruction of the ego desire, so the renunciation of sex, the renunciation of money, the renunciation of material things, the renunciation of fame. The renunciation of identity, ultimately, yeah, and the prayer to want to die into God. Through that concentration, the yogi begins destroying the connection.

To the astral plane within, within his own system and through the destruction of the astral vehicle, liberation is achieved. But now many people believe when they get in touch with the Astral Run, this is the new frontier. This is the new Gold Rush. This is the new excitement. But the exact same thing happened in Atlantas when the people started opening up collectively to the astro realm and became psychic. But they were all still in their egos. That means they would fall into sexual temptations, they would fall into black magic. They would fall into abuse of divine energies, and this is the fall. So this is why when Buddha created his system of yoga, he did it with the Atlantian Fall in mind. The Buddhist system was designed by Shakia Muni Buddha to destroy.

The karmic after effect of the atlantian fall, and that means the intellect that is separated from God. So he created a non-reaction system because he figured out when we are responding to this mind and generate emotion, it imprisons us in the lower astro. But by not reacting, by renouncing the impulses of the mind and the emotional responses, we start starving the ego out. We stop reinforcing the prison bars.

Guy:
My con, my concern is, is that, you know, we live in a world like I, I often think if you, you, you took somebody from another planet and dropped them onto Earth and say, Hey, this is how we live in right now. You’d think you’re living in a lunatic asylum. Like, what is going on? What are you all doing down here? Right. Like it’s crazy to think the way we’ve been conditioned to behave. So that’s the first thing. The the second thing is, is around that our attention span is so short these days. We are constantly stimulated. Our nervous systems are constantly stimulated. We, we
suppress every single feeling and an emotion.

If we’ve got a pain, we just medicate it. We don’t even look at the root causes of, of these things unless we’re really suffering and then tried every option and then we might start going down this path. So in this world of awakening, if we are starting to awaken up to more psychic abilities, starting to, if the veil is getting thinner for us as a species and we’re starting to connect into it without any foundation, if we’re not being taught and shown the correct methodologies to actually really encompass it and not stop rushing to get there as it to be another escapism. What hope have we got? You know, that that’s so right. So it’s

Julian:
important to be honest about

Guy:
yeah. Yeah. Like it fascinates me. It absolutely fascinates me. And you think, well, what’s it gonna take for, for us people
to to relinquish that grasp of, of what’s happening in the world and say, you know what? I’m ready to, to go inward and just go slow and take it day by day and start integrating without the, the need to push for that extra materialistic thing, the need to push for that relationship because I don’t feel right within myself. So all these things are distracting myself from what’s going on within, you know, so like, I, I just wonder what’s gonna happen over the next 10, 15 years if we do, if we are continue to opening up and how we actually gonna approach this and handle this. Do you have any. Thoughts on that?

Julian:
Well, the, the experience for each soul will be different based on their karmic cocktail because there, there’s a very simple spiritual gravity going on. We attract what we are.

Guy:
Hmm.

Julian:
So there are different timelines of experiences. So there are those, for example, who in the last Soul,
soul reincarnation cycle did not do spiritual practice, did not focus on God focused on ego gratification. They will experience a second fall like they did in Atlantis, and they are those, for example, who. time did do the proper spiritual practice, did connect with God. They went, they went to Egypt, they went to Tibet, they went to South America. They built, they built new societies and they experienced what you could consider then the idea of a new Earth.

But the truth is, it has all happened before. So that’s why this new age stuff, this idea of the new age is highly problematic because. A genuine practitioner, a genuine yogi can connect to God in any cycle of soul, any evolution, in any yoga, and must transcend the current cycle of experience. So the focus on an age, the focus on an external event, yeah, on some sort of catalyst is problematic because one needs to do the right thing.

Just for doing the right thing and not because now I feel a spiritual gold rush and I wanna manifest my perfect dream life quickly. This is narcissism, it’s gonna lead to a fall. So it’s important to understand and uh, I want to share this, but not to create a sense of hopelessness, but to be real with people. In my own, uh, recall of my past life, I past lives, I’ve experienced hundreds of my past lives in meditation, and that means thousands and thousands and thousands of years of memory I’ve experienced the rise and fall of Egypt. Yeah. Uh, I was part of the rise and fall of Tibet. I experienced many of these civilizations rising and falling. I had experiences of the Inca Empire falling. Yeah. Before the Spanish invaded and before every fall came a spiritual corruption. So for example,

Guy:
Isn’t that interesting?

Julian:
Yeah. Um, the Inca priests, they got
obsessed with Golden Sachs. had like three or four underaged wives. Yeah. Half of them pregnant. Yeah. And, and I had, uh, visions where I was walking amongst the temples and I saw the dark astral energy pouring from the temples. ’cause they perverted their practices. So the genuine Inca priests at the time, they started walking, uh, they started warning the, uh, the Inca King. They said, we are having visions of these white people coming. They’re gonna destroy our culture because we have abused our gifts. Nobody was listening. So then those priests that went into the mountains, they became the ROS in Peru.

Yeah. And in the same way in Tibet before the Chinese invasions, there were certain llamas who were warning the current Tibetan politicians in power, who were often priest politicians. Because you are misusing the practice, we attracting the Chinese for an invasion. We are having warning of that. The deities are warning us. Was ignored.

Guy:
Incredible. What do
you.

Julian:
thing in.

Guy:
So what do, do you have views of what’s happening right now then? Like, do you believe that we’re coming to an end of a cycle and we, you know, there’s so many different varying opinions of what’s happening on the planet right now, but what seems to be a common denominator from what I’ve experienced in talking to many people, but also keeping one eye out, is that we are in a very critical period in humanity right now.
Like we are in it, you know? And, um, how, how do you, do you have, do you have thoughts of seeing it play out? Like, have you seen it? What are you, what do you, what do you, uh, what do you think.

Julian:
I had some visions of that and, and actually, um.
I think I can share this. Um, in one of my lifetimes, I was a tantric practitioner in India. I was a priest of Khali and I reconnected with that deity in, in my own practices in this lifetime, and she gave me a vision. In this vision, I saw Earth from space and you know how you see, uh, at night, all the lights from the cities, the urban areas. And she showed me how that was shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and shrinking because of the transhumanist agenda. She showed me millions of people dying from certain injections before it was happening. But then what she also showed me was a resurrection. That’s why the idea of the resurrection of the Christ, that’s very important. She showed me that those who survive it create actually what you could, could consider the new Earth Blue Blueprint.

And these are people who are highly spiritual, who live in nature and are also highly technological. But it’s not that dense in pop in, in population. Yeah, so there is a timeline split because at the end of every yoga, and this is the end of Kali Yoga right now, of the deepest amnesia of forgetting God, this is Kali Yoga, and it’s now since it’s ending, there is a reawakening of the spiritual origin. However, depending on. The choices that the souls have made over the last 75,000 years, if they have acted from egotism or if they have served God, they go into different realities. So for somebody, they might, if they are living deeply in the center of the matrix, they might experience as cataclysmic, as a collapse, as severely traumatic.

And then there are others, for example. Who did something different in Atlanta? Those priests who went with with master WR to Egypt did not experience a fall. They experienced a rejuvenation by combining the atlantian and the Egyptian spirit. Back then it was called Ike. That was the name for Egypt, and it gave birth to the name Ike mi, which is the spiritual transformation process. So the atlantians started teaching the Egyptians and build new societies. Some of the atlantians, uh, went to Tibet and were later some of the founders of Tibetan Buddhism. it is important to understand that everything happens by law, that there are no accidents. And even though we may have great compassion for the suffering of those people who are not prepared.

The reason these people are not prepared because they didn’t do their homework. They choose selfishness and separateness over divine law. So there are two ways of learning. One is through suffering. That means indirect teaching through pain, and one is by turning towards God and the suffering is actually God’s mercy. It just perceived wrongly by the ego because the ego is resisting God’s mercy. And through that resistance, the ego is experiencing psychological, suffer suffering through cognitive dissonance because it’s not in a state of surrender, but if one surrenders, it turns into grace. Yeah. So there’s a choice for each and every individual and even those who are deeply asleep.

They are in a natural state of soul evolution where immersion is still what they need in order for their own growth because the soul receives, imprints, individualization through reincarnation, and it takes this imprint after death with it, even though it doesn’t carry the person with it, the identity with it, but keeps the memories. And this is how a soul creates wisdom. So those who are deeply asleep, it’s just a different stage of evolution that they are in, and they’re still learning through pain. They’re not learning through direct communication with the divine. And that is also fine, but it might be subjectively hard to accept on a personal level. Yeah, when you care about individuals, when you care about society as a whole. But rest assured that everything that happens happens by law. And it is ultimately not unjust. Yeah. I give you an example.

Guy:
Please.

Julian:
had a, a student in Germany, um, and he was quite talented in Zen practice, and I thought I could bring him along quite further.
But his wife, um, try to get him away from Zen practice because she, she saw me as competition. So she tried to get pregnant as fast as possible to make him focus on family life, so he wouldn’t focus on spiritual life and she succeeded in meditation. I had a vision that 700 years ago I was an Abbott in a Zen Buddhist monastery in Japan, and he came to me the same soul, with the same wife, just in different bodies.

And, uh, he wanted to become a monk, but she didn’t want that. So she said to me, can you not live with me in the village, but he comes to you for teaching and so on? And I said, no, that’s not what we do, because we have to deprogram monks from society, empty them out so we can give them the proper yogi conditioning. So we’re not gonna do that. He has to be a full-time monk. Same thing. She got pregnant as fast as she could. Tied him down in family life. So 700 years ago, he made the same decision. If I would look into other lifetimes of his, he would’ve done it 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 times.

Yeah. The human ego tricks the soul to believe that right now, when there’s a key decision to be made between God and the world, that it’s an individual unique decision that was never made before. And that the current wife, for example, is special, but it’s just a repeat of the same old, same old, same old. So in truth is most souls have made the same decisions for thousands of years, and they’re now reaping the consequences of those decisions. So they’re not technically innocent.

Guy:
You know, I, I hear you. There is a lot in that, but are we just slow learners then? You know

Julian:
You,
but that’s all right, isn’t it?

Guy:

it. Of course it is. It is. But you know, when, when
we’re knee deep in the, the pain or the suffering or the. the. consequences. It’s hard to, to, to see beyond that, to see, hard, to see the vantage point from the divine self and the eternal self when we really are in, in that pain and suffering in those moments. Right. You, you know, it’s to to wade through that, but For sure. So yeah, please, if you wanna speak to that, go for it,

Julian:
Well, let me share you one of my own mistakes

Guy:
please.

Julian:
that then it might make sense. Uh, one of my lifetimes that I reviewed was as a, was as a Tibetan llama in a monastery in Tibet, and I was a young llama at the time. And, uh, suddenly all these elder monks started whispering around me and I was like, why are, why are they whispering?
I was expecting some sort of conspiracy, or did I screw up? What happened? So I didn’t really understand. I was, I was a little bit suspicious and at some point they start crowding me. And the thing that they were actually saying to each other, they were asking each other, do you think he’s ready? Do you think he’s ready?

So then they came all up to me and and said, okay, we’re gonna walk up the mountain. We are gonna bring you to a certain place and you’re not to leave this place. So we start hiking up the mountain and there’s a cave in. That cave is a Saru, an Indian yogi. Didn’t even speak Tibetan, but he was speaking telepathically and they said, you stay with this yogi and you’re not allowed to leave the cave. The Yogi talks to me and says, llama, drop your monk rope, grow your hair back. Put on a loin cloth. Stop chanting mantras. I was furious because I had a spiritual ego. I was attached to the Tibetan way. I was attached to the ropes. I was attached to the iconography, to the tradition, to the mantras, to the way the monasteries looked.

So I was outwardly attached to an, let’s say, exterior representation of something, and the yogi saw this immediately. He read my Karma and he wanted to get me through to surrender. He wanted to get me through the last gate. And what he said was actually a compassionate act. He wanted to destroy my monk identity because it had become a prison, but I didn’t see it this way. Mm. I ran down the mountain and I said, this heretic, this blaspheme. He doesn’t understand anything about Buddhism. And I died in ignorance that lifetime.

So my soul was grieving immensely on the other side. Then the spiritual hierarchy said, okay, we’re gonna give you another chance. And I got reborn as a sick, as a Tibetan boy. I was like six years old, and suddenly this yogi walks into the house of my parents also doesn’t speak Tibetan, but tells them telepathically, this is my student. You gotta get into me. Then he took me away from my parents. From the age of six, six or seven years old, I lived for the rest of my life in a cave, practicing with that yogi, but I want to be clear, everybody is having opportunity all the time right now. They just choose to ignore it. God is constantly giving chances, constantly sending teachers. Hint and tries to speak through the experience with some sort of juxtaposition that is completely missed because there’s no mindfulness.

Yeah. So there’s a difference between practitioners who are part of a spiritual hierarchy. And that is true lineage. It’s not like, oh, you, you have learned from Yogi XX, he gave you a paper now, now you are his, uh, student. You are, you’re his descendant. It’s not how it works. The lineage, existence, spirit alone. And only there, it is known only within the Holy Spirit. The truth there is known. Yeah. There are many legit yogis who are fake students who later pretend that they are advanced yogi. They have the papers, but they’re fake. There are those who have no papers whatsoever. They can’t prove any lineage, but their lineage is true.

So everybody is getting opportunity all the time. If you see a homeless dog on the street, are you gonna take the homeless dog in? It’s up to you, but this is God and the homeless dog, and God watches you through the dog. What are you gonna do? Everybody is constantly being given opportunity. It’s just that they’re ignorant to it, and because they’re ignoring the opportunity for spiritual evolution, they then have to pay with suffering. Yeah. So simple example, how does selling the soul work? Imagine there’s a young man and he’s a great artist, but his father is a lawyer and the lawyer says, you can’t make money with art. This is bullshit. Do something. Proper study in Harvard, and in order to get the law from his father, he starts suppressing his inner artist, which is his soul.

So he starts dimming his light, he’s pushing God out of his body, exiling God from the system. So he becomes a lawyer, right? He goes to Harvard, but every time he goes to a seminar, he’s having a panic attack because his shadow to which the soul speaks is trying to fight the containment that the ego has created. And every human being at every moment makes a choice to love, to be compassionate, to learn, or to be ignorant, to be selfish, and to ignore. And this accumulates over thousands of years. And at some point the debt is collected at the end of a yoga like right now, and that’s the truth of it.

Guy:
I was gonna ask you, I was just conscious of time. We’ve got about 10 minutes left before I have to, um, call it. But, um, what is the journey of the soul then? We, we keep reincarnating. I mean, you were speaking about 75,000 years lifetimes ago. Like that’s a lot of hours we’re putting into something. Even though, you know, beyond reality, it’s non-linear.
What, what is the purpose of it all? Like how do you see, see it playing out?

Julian:
God has a dream
at the beginning of everything, and you will find this in many texts. It doesn’t matter if these texts are Egyptian, if they’re Buddhist, if they’re Hindu, whatever. Everything speaks of the void, the emptiness, the absolute absence of anything, no time, no quality, no dimensions, nothing. So God ultimately cannot see himself. Because he doesn’t exist in a perceivable way. So God had a dream like a little toddler in the kindergarten who was using building blocks to build little realities with towers. God had a dream of recognizing himself, but in order to recognize himself, which wasn’t directly possible, he had to create a mirror.

And the mirror is experience. By creating a limited set of experience that is other than God, because God is not limited, doesn’t experience time, has no identity, has no personality, has no individuality. But through the experience of energy, God can reverse engineer himself as not that, not the limited experience, not the energetic patterns, not the personality, not the body, not this, not this. Needy, needy, needy. In the Hindu practice. Not that, not that, not that. So the idea is that when we have amnesia of who we are, we fall into manifestation and we get identified, and then we wake, we wake back up, and we reverse engineer who we are. We are painting an individual portray of God through our own individual return. And this delights him very much.

Guy:
So with that in mind, then this, does that mean as a soul we just continue reincarnating? Or is there a point of actualization where we, we don’t come back? What are your thoughts on that?

Julian:
Yes, there is a definite point after the spiritual lessons have been learned. Yeah? Mm-hmm. Through surrender. When surrender begins, the true spiritual practice
begins before it’s all ignorance. So when surrender begins, when a proper teacher is found, and the teacher is key here, because a genuine teacher is an extension of God, and those people nowadays who believe that they can do it without a teacher, that they can just go on social media, use that technique, this technique, they will not go far.

They are teachers that are designed, that are assigned by God. They’re not assigned by people, by institutions or by systems. They’re also not self-assigned. They will have definite experiences of a divine nature that tell them that they are a teacher and what their job is. When such a teacher is found, enormous progress can be made. Hundreds of years of karmic struggle can be dissolved in one lifetime. But it takes tremendous concentration and willingness to give up a worldly life. Give up your attachments, give up your desires. Without it, it is not possible. That’s a fact.

And it is about, ultimately about transcending the form, changing the form through yoga, bringing it under soul control. It is about burning up the ego or the identity, the perceived personality that has been shaped through many lifetimes, and we burn it up through generating wisdom from pain. The more we turn pain into wisdom, that’s the chemical process. At some point, we become very light in spiritual gravity, so the lower realities cannot hold us anymore. So when death then comes, we go where we are an energetic match to. So if we haven’t indulged in, uh, sexual obsessions, for example, if we had transmuted that through the proper tantra and so on, our energy is so modified that it cannot be held by the lower realities, and this is the experience of enlightenment.

Guy:
Interesting. Thank you. Thank you. I, um, I’ll have to wrap up the podcast in a minute. Um, as you Sharon as well, I’ve just been the whole podcast. I’ve just been taken in and admiring your backdrop behind you, Julian. It’s looking very Peruvian, very different to where I am in Australia right now, mate.

Julian:
It’s a mudhole, it’s,

Guy:
it’s fantastic, right?
I see the flags behind you. The prayer flags. You’ve got the fireplace and the bed and that, and it’s like, wow. Where, where in Peru are you? Just outta curiosity.

Julian:
I am in, in the Sacred Valley.

Guy:
Ah,

Julian:
yeah.

Guy:
Down towards Machu Way, then.

Julian:
Yeah, in Inba right now.

Guy:
Okay.

Julian:
Because long term, the goal is to build a monastery in the mountains. Um, I was guided to do that and, uh, I own land there. And the Andes have similar qualities like the Himalaya. So certain practices are very supported there.

Guy:
Uh. Ah, gotcha, gotcha. No, it is fascinating, isn’t it? Like, um, ’cause Peru’s obviously renowned for the psychedelics and ayahuasca people come down for the, it’s almost like tourism down there in, in some ways, isn’t it? And it’s nice to see, um, yourself there. How close are you to getting a monastery off the ground?

Julian:
Well, that has been very difficult, um, because if I receive any money, it needs to come without con conditions, and in the last three years I was offered three times a big amount of money, but I was told in meditation by protector deities to not take the money because it would’ve led to a corruption of the monastic tradition.
I’m trying to build something that is of a great purity. And when it comes to money, most people will use it as a power tool. Will try to control me, will try to control the monastic traditions, will try to use it to enhance their own egos in some way. And I cannot allow this. Yeah, I’d rather end up homeless in staff.

Guy:
Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. Good on you, mate. Um, where can people find out more about you? You got a YouTube channel as well, don’t you? You’re, you’re putting out some videos and, uh, as well educational stuff, I believe on YouTube.

Julian:
Well, yes, I’m, uh, I’m putting out, especially stuff about spiritual corruption and spiritual discernment. Because this is, uh, very needed right now. So if people are interested in that in the proper yogic practices, or let’s say the Buddhist system as well, um, they can just, uh, Google my name Yeah. Or put my name into the search function of YouTube.
You, you will find my work. Um, if you want to get in touch with me or book a session, it’s very simple. It’s the lighthouse pe um, yeah. Anybody can go there and reach out to.

Guy:
Mate, thank you for, uh, coming on the podcast. Really nice to connect Julian. And uh, yeah, thank you for a very interesting, uh, one hour of my time and I have no doubt a lot of people will get a lot outta this today. Really appreciate it. Thank you mate.

Julian:
Thank you very much for, for giving me this platform. I’m deeply grateful to you and I enjoy it myself.

Guy:
You are welcome mate. Good on you, son. Thank you.


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