#186 In this enlightening episode, Guy interviewed Cyndi to explore overarching themes of holistic health, empowerment, community, and personal journey through adversity and spiritual growth. The conversation delved into how modern influences are detrimentally impacting mental, physical, and spiritual well-being, and emphasizes the importance of self-education and community support. Cyndi shared her inspiring family background, the legacy of her parents, and transformative experiences that shaped her pursuit of health and wellness. The discussion also touched on her focus on local, sustainable farming practices and the impact of legislative decisions on personal and community health. Cyndi provided actionable insights on the significance of choosing real food, supporting local businesses, and fostering innate intelligence for a more empowered and healthier life.
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About Cyndi: Cyndi O’Meara is a nutritionist and educator whose greatest love is to teach, both in the public arena and within the large corporate food companies, and to enable everyone to make better choices so they too can enjoy greater health throughout their lives. Her unique, surprisingly simple yet extensively researched but down-to-earth approach, challenges and encourages others to eliminate unhealthy habits and has inspired thousands to make smarter choices about the food they choose to put into their body.
Cyndi confronts her audiences, whether within the public or corporate sectors, she has the courage to call out deception and misinformation and believes in arming people with the tools and resources to reach their goals. By educating people on food choices, how to read food labels, why diets don’t work, and how drugs can affect your total well-being and vitality, Cyndi empowers them to make long lasting changes with simple and achievable steps on how to create healthier habits.
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Key points with time stamp:
- (00:00) – The Great Disconnect — How We Lost Touch With Our Body, Health, & Inner Knowing!
- (00:33) – Meet Cyndi: A Go-Getter’s Background
- (01:31) – Family Influence and Upbringing
- (02:41) – Health Journey and Philosophy
- (08:22) – Educational Path and Realizations
- (08:56) – Adventures and Further Education
- (13:18) – Current Practices and Beliefs
- (16:53) – Community and Local Support
- (23:37) – Facing Adversity and Family Challenges
- (25:28) – Family History of Hemophilia
- (26:32) – The Impact of Bayer’s Negligence
- (28:06) – Personal Losses and Reflections
- (30:49) – Spiritual Awakening and Healing
- (31:58) – Advocacy and Education
- (41:56) – Future Plans and Legacy
- (46:54) – Final Thoughts and Empowerment
How to Contact Cyndi O’Meara:
changinghabits.com.au
whatswithwheat.com
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My Instagram:
www.instagram.com/guyhlawrence/?hl=en
My website:
www.guylawrence.com.au
www.liveinflow.co
TRANSCRIPT
Cyndi: [00:00:00] Is so much interference in this innate intelligence that we’re getting sicker and sicker mentally, physically, and spiritually. I’m not interested in the lies of mainstream media and the fear mongering. We have to step into a space of empowerment and education and realizing that we are all powerful.
Guy: Cyndi, welcome to the podcast. Well, thanks
Cyndi: Guy. I’m looking forward to this.
Guy: Me too. I am genuinely looking forward to this. You know, I feel blessed to have gotten to know you and Kim a little bit earlier this year from the retreat and, and one thing that stood out for me. As I got to know you a bit more, Cyndi, is that you, you’re definitely somebody that is a bit of a go-getter that doesn’t, it doesn’t rest.
I can’t imagine you lounging around watching [00:01:00] Netflix all day or something like that. You know, you, there’s, there’s a constant drive in you, and I mean that from the, the deepest compliment, you know, so I’m always curious, and I thought I’d start there today, is where does that hunger, that thirst for life and that thirst for knowledge and that quest come from with you? Because you’re very, you, you just so, you’re just so passionate about living, that’s for sure.
Cyndi: Oh, I’ve never just asked, ever asked me that question. I actually don’t know. I guess. I guess I can only say that I was brought up that way. You know, my dad was a go-getter. He was a hiker. We had a bus in the 1960s.
Dad had a bus and he put a bed in it and he called it a Bedford. Um, so. He, he was doing things long before I think anybody else was really thinking about it. You know, now everyone’s got a bus and everyone’s got a caravan. Whereas, you know, he had this Bedford, and I think it was because mom didn’t wanna go camping. She liked her, her [00:02:00] luxury, so he put a bed in a bus and we all went camping in the bus. The only thing I can say it is, is was my family and my upbringing. Um, they were go-getters. You know, dad was a Kiwi who went to America, met my mom, they came to Australia to live. They moved around, they settled in Bendigo.
That’s, you know, I can only think that that was my upbringing because my brother’s exactly the same. He’s a world champion, freestyle skier. He is a television presenter, a weatherman, you know, he’s done the same thing. And my sister was the same. So I guess upbringing.
Guy: Yeah, it’s a beautiful trait, right? It’s amazing. I, I’m curious, I’m curious to know as well, you know, um, with your, like, like I was on your website this morning, Cyndi, and it’s remarkable the amount of information that you have on there, the amount of things that you’re constantly putting out in the world. I mean, even back from my one 18 nutrition [00:03:00] days, I mean, I’ve been watching you from afar for a long time and you’re, you’re always at the forefront and constantly.
Putting a message out there and constantly evolving that message as well, if that’s fair to say. And it, it blows my mind that. I guess what you’ve done, and I dunno if building an empire is the right word, because you, you, you’ve, you’ve, you’re so passionate about one’s health and putting this work out there, and I’m, and I’m always fascinated to know even where those aspects come from. Why, why health, why this journey for you, what, where did that start? Yeah. Or is that again from upbringing as well? It
Cyndi: is, it actually is. So if I can go back to my parents, because I think. Um, that has been, uh, an incredible influence on me. So my mom was the oldest of 11 children. Um, her father was a corn farmer in Iowa, USA. There [00:04:00] was, um, a real love of farming by my grandfather who. Didn’t agree with the chemical revolution. So he was a farmer in 1938 and 39 after my mom was born when they sprayed arsenic and lead on the corn fields, um, across 14 states of the USA, which have absolutely made it toxic. And he was against that.
He was also against DDT, which started in 1945. So he was a farmer that was out there saying This new way of farming is going to be a problem in the future. And all the farmers said, Hey Vince, you know, this is the new way of farming. You gotta do it, you gotta get into it. And, and he ended up losing his farm for many reasons and maybe we’ll talk about that.
Um, but he ended up using, losing the farm, but had an incredible two acre plot. So 11 children, you can imagine he had to feed them without a farm. He had to feed them on that two acre plot was grains and corn, of course, and vegetables and fruit and goats and [00:05:00] chickens. And he fed that family of 11. So that was my mom’s side.
And then my, my dad’s side, he, he basically, um, grew up in Kaikora, New Zealand. He became a pharmacist. And after six years of pharmacy, he realized that he was killing people, not making ’em well. And um, he had this specific person who used to come in for Pepto bmo and on this one, like about a month, he hadn’t been coming in or two months, and he saw him in the street and he said, you know, why are you coming in for your Pepto bmo?
And the guy said to him, oh, the quack up the road, fix me. And my dad’s thinking, what fixes indigestion? And the quack up the road was a chiropractor. And so my dad went in, in his curiosity, he went and visited this man, quit pharmacy immediately for 10 months, he and another friend worked as painters to make enough money to to fly to Iowa USA in the 1950.
Six, I believe that was Wow. Fly to [00:06:00] Iowa USA, where the only school of chiropractic was, and he learnt the exact opposite from mechanistic healthcare to vitalistic healthcare. Met my mom, came to Australia and that’s how I was brought up. I was brought up in a on, on a, oh good food because my mother had had her father’s influence.
And my grandmother, she canned everything or, you know, bottled everything. They had a cellar that had all the food they needed for the winter because it snows and there’s no way you can grow food in the winter. So, um, so she had the upbringing of her mother and father, and then my father, um, just said, unless it’s a life-threatening situation.
I will not be giving my children any medications whatsoever. So while everybody else was being vaccinated and there was only you walked to your vaccines back then, you know, you were five or six, we would sit in the classroom and not be vaccinated if anybody was having, you know, bje or antibiotics or Panadol, he said, your [00:07:00] body needs to deal with it so that it can deal with the big things in life.
Your body needs to deal with that fever so it can deal with the bigger inflammations in life. And that was, that was the way we were brought up. And I’m 61 in one month and I’ve never had an antibiotic, Panadol, any form of medication whatsoever. Have no chronic disease. I am, um. The opposite to what the rest of the Australian population is basically like at the moment, which is 80% above my age group have chronic disease, so I’m in that little 20% because.
Guy: 80%,
Cyndi: 80% have one or more chronic diseases over the age of 65. So they’re a little bit older than me, but almost, almost there. Our kids, 38 to 40% of our kids have chronic disease now. 2% of the population. When I was born in 19, I was born 1960. So in 1962 there was a a, a census, and that census showed that between two and 4% of the whole population had a chronic disease.
What’s happened? You have to [00:08:00] ask, so I guess. My dad was so passionate about it. He’s 93 next month. Um, and you know, he’s still passionate about this. He loves chiropractic. He is, he is one of those guys that will, um, go to his grave making sure he’s making people well.
Guy: Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. And when did you, in on your journey, decide in your path to start stepping out there yourself and, and putting a message out there? Because. The, the one thing that’s clear is that if, if we have a message that especially it comes from the heart and we wanna share and we wanna help others, quite often people just. Don’t a don’t want to hear it, or we can get pushed back a lot from, from wanting to, I guess create change. Mm-hmm. Like, we’re so resistant to it as well. Yeah. So where did this, did you always know you were gonna be doing what you were doing? No.
Cyndi: No. Not at all. I’m, I’m an adventurer, so like my dad and, and mom, [00:09:00] we, we, they, we did lots of adventures. They took us around the world for three months when I was 14, so I. Wow. Traveled right through Asia, up through Pakistan, into England, across to Europe, over to America, Hawaii.
Um, did we stop in Fiji? No, we ended up going Hawaii and straight home, so we took three months to do that. So I had adventure in my blood and my dad being an adventurer also loved skiing, and so I thought, well, I’m going to go. Skiing and go to university at the same time, which you can’t do in Australia.
So I picked the University of Colorado in Boulder. 20 minutes was the nearest ski slope, and then I had Vail and Aspen and, and being the only Aussie, um, at the University of Colorado. I was invited to every condo on every mountain in Colorado. I had the best time, the best time. So, um, I, I wanted to educate myself as well.
So I thought, well, I’ll go to university. And I did pre-med ’cause I knew health was something that I wanted [00:10:00] to do. Um, my sister was doing chiropractic at Davenport, Iowa, but at this stage, and I entered, um, pre-med. So I did a year of pre-med and in that year you’re allowed electives. And one of the electives I did was anthropology.
Then. I loved that so much. I did cultural anthropology and at the end of the year I thought, oh my gosh, it’s food That has been the most important thing that has created the evolution of people and it’s food that will make us well. So, you know, mum was a great cook, but we never really talked about.
Nutrition or dietetics, it was just, we all ate well. Mm-hmm. Mom would go to the local fruit and veggies. Um, dad would have the egg man bring eggs in for a barter system for chiropractic. So we always had excellent food. Mom would buy half a cow. Um, it’s just the way we lived it. So at the end of that year.
I decided that I wanted to be a dietician, so I came back to Australia and started my Bachelor of science, majoring in [00:11:00] nutrition, about to go do dietetics, finished my degree and went, oh, this is BS margarine. We didn’t eat margarine throughout our, our anthropology or our evolution, and we didn’t do that in cultural anthropology as well.
And low fat? No, we ate fat and um, less meat. No, we did that breakfast cereals Really? So to me it was such a disconnect with what I had learned in my first year at university. So I thought, well, I couldn’t go against the grain per se. I went back to university for two years, cut up cadavers. So, um, did a human anatomy, pathology, histology, embryology, um, parasitology.
Any you could do. I did. And after six years of, of university, I went, I know exactly what the. What the human body needs. It needs real food. So that was the 1980s and my mantra hasn’t changed. All the ultra processed crap food out there, including the vegan food, the ultra processed [00:12:00] meats and dairies that so-called meats and dairies, they’re not going to heal us.
Make us well, um, give us the ingredients we need in order for this incredible name, innate intelligence in our body to do so. Um. I guess that’s, that’s how it all started. Um, I also did a course after I finished at the University of Colorado. I loved hiking and I loved camping. And there was an opportunity to do a two month land management, western wilderness, um, outward bound course out of Cresta Butte, Colorado.
And that to me was like music to my ears where I would be out of civilization. This is 1981, so I’d be outta civilization. I would be hiking through the mountains of Colorado. We even went into New Mexico and Arizona. And learning about how to manage land basically. And yeah. Wow. So I, I think all of that [00:13:00] was an incredible grounding on, um, the importance of nature breath work.
Um, you know, I, I do that every day. I do breath work every day, 40 minutes every day. Um, you know, meditation, time in nature, clean water that. That cultural anthropology and that anthropology that allowed us the ingredients we need in order to be the best human being that we can possibly be without interference, and this is what’s happening at the moment, is there’s so much interference in this innate intelligence that we’re getting sicker and sicker mentally, physically, and spiritually.
Guy: I know, I know. Wow. First of all, I gotta say you ev, when I’m listening to you, you make me want to just pack up my bags and go traveling right now. Obviously I can’t, ’cause I’m still in lockdown. But it’s, it’s beautiful to hear Cyndi. It truly is. And, and it sounds like, um. Well, it sounds like your parents are groovers.
I mean, what, um, [00:14:00] unbelievable to have that upbringing as well, like truly, you know, and, and second to that, and I, I see myself in some of the, the, the things that you spoke around. ’cause I was that guy that was so disconnected to my food source to, to many things in my life just from my cultural upbringing and just being out there oblivious to actually.
Reconnecting back to that, that innate intelligence, those things that you speak of, and I guess that’s why I’m so passionate now because having to go through my own 10. 10 years of struggle to then 10 years of epiphanies to then like fully coming out the other side going, why aren’t we looking at this?
Why aren’t we reconnecting back? Why aren’t we nurturing our land? Why aren’t we nurturing ourselves more? And starting to unplug more? And actually trusting that wisdom within us. And, and everything you just said then just resonates so much. I just, I just wanted to say that as well. Do you like, ’cause obviously we’re in a very, a very pivotal time in history right [00:15:00] now.
Do you think that your, are you optimistic for the future? Do you think it’s, it is gonna encourage us to start connecting back to that innate wisdom and start trusting ourselves, our bodies and, and the natural surroundings? More
Cyndi: in my way of thinking, guys, something had to happen. And, and, and otherwise we would’ve continued on this trajectory and, um, more and more people would have been oblivious to what? Uh, I believe the elite. And when I talk about the elite, I’m talking about chemical companies. Um, pharmaceutical companies, agricultural companies. I actually believe that there’s an awakening, an awakening that we cannot continue down the road. We are going, and that is that we are being absolutely killed, um, by the amount of chemicals that are in our, on our planet, um, in our food supply, um, on our cosmetics, on our.
Everything, even on our [00:16:00] clothes, you know, like if you look at the clothes and the chemicals that, the dyes that they put on our clothes, we have to be really careful of this. So I actually believe it’s a, it’s a coming back to home, a coming back to community because if we choose our money. Not to support these big ca chemical companies, these big agricultural companies.
And I’m talking about Bayer and Monsanto and Pfizer and um, you know, all of the, and even big money. So I’m very much for going back to. My local bank, so my co-op bank, um, Malaney, um, so my farm is in Malaney, and they have a wonderful bank up there that is a, you know, it’s, it’s supported by the shareholders.
It’s not supported, um, by one of the big four. So in my way of thinking, this is a coming home, a coming back to community. And I don’t know how I get this across to people, but if we spend our money in our local [00:17:00] community with our small farmers, our for our, our, our farmer’s markets, our um, organic suppliers, our small shops, our small butchers, if we start to give our money to these guys, our community will thrive.
But not only will they thrive, but we as a human health species. Will, will thrive as well as will all the animals. So this globalization that’s trying to happen. I’m hoping it’s pushing it the other way, that people become more community minded and they’re locking us up, so we have to be community minded. The thing is, is that you don’t support McDonald’s, Kentucky Fried Chicken. You don’t support any of those guys that are creating, um, ultra processed foods that are killing us and the planet you don’t support, I’m sorry, coals and Woolworths anymore because they sell ultra processed foods. I have a, a tiny little organic shop that I go into.
It’s just packed jam and [00:18:00] it’s small, but that’s who I’m supporting. I support my local butcher. I support my local farmer’s market. I, as much as possible, I’m supporting my local community and I have a barter system with my organic, um, and their name’s Grub. They grub in maba, but I have a barter system with them.
So I bring them in excess produce that I have from the farm, so all my oranges and lemons and. I never give them my apples. I never have enough apples. Um, but peaches or nectarines, depending on the season, I just gave them all my lettuces. Um, anything that I’ve got extra of, I give to them. And we have a barter system, so she doesn’t pay me.
Um, we just do a, a beautiful barter system. And this is what I think if we get back to this, then we’re not only helping our health, our family’s health, but our community’s health and our community’s um, economy. It’s, it’s simple. It’s not hard.
Guy: I know, I know. But again, I know it’s, I know it’s not [00:19:00] hard, but it, it’s almost like we can’t see the woods through the trees sometimes. And I, and I still think back ’cause I was that guy, honestly, like, it took, took a, a few knocks across the head, I think for it to, to fully land, for me to really step into it and, and.
For, for me, the biggest journey has been from my head to my heart and actually reconnecting to that and then listening to that more so than what comes up in my mind. And, but as I’ve trusted and grown that connection and, and live from this place, it’s allowed me to, to fully see things like the very things that you think about.
And come from that place. And, and sadly I wasn’t raised like that in, in, in culturally. I mean, you know, there, there is, there’s no disconnect. Everything is all from the, the left minded, the egoic side, if you like, and, and we seem to be striving more and more or reaching more for that, but it’s, it’s. It’s a never ending fulfillment.
There’s no fulfillment in it. Even then when we get there and we set all these goals and [00:20:00] achievements, it doesn’t come back. And it’s, it’s the very things that you speak about is what fills me up every day. It’s, it’s actually being able to, to smile, go at a, at a slower pace and, and have a conversation, look somebody in the eye and get to know thy neighbor and be in a place where I’m around nature as well.
And, but I’ve, I’ve had to sadly. Not sadly, but courageously I think make choices in my life that allowed me to slowly move in that direction when I said enough was enough. And from that this something beautiful has blossomed and, and that’s what I’m certainly hoping for as well moving forward. So you didn’t have
Cyndi: a world crisis though, guy. This is a world crisis. No.
Guy: Yes, but you open,
Cyndi: you awakened Without that, you maybe had a, a self crisis or a family crisis, but this is a world crisis. Yeah. And I, I really believe it’s an awakening how long this is gonna take. I have no [00:21:00] idea. And I’m not impatient. I’m patient as much as I can possibly be. I have, um, my family around me.
I have my farm, um, I have my community. I just feel that. It, it is about not, I don’t watch any mainstream media, by the way. Someone will tell me if I need to do something or I’ll see something. So I refuse to watch and listen. I don’t, my radio is not on. I’m listening to podcasts. I am. If I, if I’m at home, I’m usually listening to an audio book or something like that.
I’m not interested in the lies of mainstream media and the fear mongering ’cause. What we have to do is we have to step out of that and we have to step into a space of empowerment and education and realizing that we are all powerful. But we must act. We can’t just educate. We must act on, [00:22:00] um, what is needed in order for our community, our family, and ourselves to survive.
And, um, to me it’s, it’s all based around food, um, connection. Breath work, meditation. If like somebody asked me today, oh, do you do, do, do you do much tm, Cyndi? I went, no, I only just do the 40 minutes of my breath work. You know, I can’t get into the tm even though TM is completely different. Transcendental meditation, I find that, yeah, my breath work is, is something I love and I think, you know, be excited about life and don’t get, um.
Bogged down with the drama and the fear that’s happening on the outside world, because if you didn’t have mainstream media on which I don’t, and you live in your own little bubble, you wouldn’t know that the world was in an absolute crisis or humanity, not the world. Humanity is in an absolute crisis, so protect yourself. Yes. Know what’s happening. Yes. Get [00:23:00] out there and protest. By all means, yes. Get out and say things, but also protect yourself from, um, the fear I think is, is probably number one. Yeah,
Guy: yeah. No, I agree. It’s massive. It’s, it’s massive. If, if, if you don’t build a fortress around your own, your own unit, your own pod of, of, I’m very careful as well with actually what gets in that. Because if I can’t be at my, my innate best. Presented myself moving forward into the world, then what could am I to anyone? Exactly. You know? And, and the information that slips in is very, uh, very crucial, you know? Um, I wanna, I wanna touch on Cyndi, if you don’t mind, a little bit about adversity, because I think, you know, through my, my, um, my podcast, I think, I think we’re over 170 interviews now, which still boggles my mind, um, coming in and.
Quite often, one thing I’ve found that a lot of people reach out to me for is, is um, taking inspiration [00:24:00] from that. And I think there’s a lot, obviously there’s a lot of adversity going through, um, in our own lives right now and. Navigating through that and come out to the side and, and create a meaning out of that.
’cause quite often some of the, the difficult things in life we can look back upon with wisdom later, or the wisdom from it. But at the time it can feel like, uh, very difficulty. And, and, and I’m, and I know for yourself that. There’s been adversity in your life as well with your uncles, if I do believe as well in time. And I was wondering if you would mind just sharing a little bit about that and, and what you’ve learned from that in, in reflection. Yeah.
Cyndi: So I said to you that my mom was the oldest of 11 and before her first brother was born, the ASIC and lead was being sprayed. Um. In 19, so Mum was born 1937, AIC and lead was being sprayed 38, 39. In 1939, her first brother was born and he was, um, they circumcised him at, I can’t remember what [00:25:00] time, but he kept bleeding. And um, so they did tests and they realized he had a, um, a disorder called hemophilia. So it’s a bleeding disorder that if you cut yourself or bruise, you just keep bleeding. You’ve got no clotting factor.
Factor VII was what was missing with him or with him. Um, and so, um, like the, the statistics on hemophilia is that, you know, one in the family will have it, well, mom had seven brothers and six have. Were given, Hema had hemophilia. So there was no hemophilia in our family. None? No, not sideways, upwards, nowhere, until that uncle was born.
Wow. So was it the arsenic and lead? I don’t know. I have no idea. But was it that that was causing the problem? So then seven brothers, six all had hemophilia. So that’s why my uncle, my, sorry, my grandfather lost the farm. He had no boys to help him. He had no, that was why they had so many kids. And my grandfather was one of 14.
My grandmother was one of 14. And you know, they had kids to [00:26:00] help them on the farm. They were German descent. Then, um, a new drug came out, so if they bleed, if my uncles bleed, they used to go into hospital and they’d had to sit still for about three weeks until the bleeding stopped and they were okay. So when a new drug came out, um, which was called cryo or Factor vii.
Um, they had a new lease on life. All they had to do was, uh, grandma was a nurse. All grandma had to do was inject them with, with factor viii and the, and the blood would, the body would clot or the blood would clot. Um, but then because of Bayer. Um, which I find interesting. Bayer has bought Monsanto, and we’ll talk about that.
But because, um, Bayer knew there was something in the plasma, which was making the factor VII for my uncles and all the, he, the people that had hemophilia in the, in the, um, country in the us, they knew something was in it, but they didn’t pull the product. And so every single one of my uncles, two wives and [00:27:00] one of my cousins.
All contracted HIV, they were all put on a drug called a ZT, which was a cancer drug that was killing people fa faster than it healed the cancer. So they pulled it from the cancer, um, drug repertoire and gave it to my uncles. And I watched, they all died of a ZT. They all died from the drug, a ZT. They didn’t die from aids.
Um, the drug gave them aids and the main guy behind this was fauci. Fauci, who’s the main guy behind what’s happening now? So Fauci stopped research. He wanted the accolades of this research that Judy Ovitz was doing, um, Dr. Judy Ovitz was doing, and basically, Fauci stopped this research about the A ZT and about the virus and, and things like that.
And, and, and basically killed my uncles and my, and two of my aunts and one of my cousins. So we lost, um, eight family members as a result of, um, of [00:28:00] Bayer not doing what they should have done and pulled the product long before. Um. So that was, that was, and I watched my mom, you know, watch each one of her brothers pass away.
And, and what’s interesting, if you look at that whole family we’ve had, um, two with psychotic issues, one’s committed suicide, one with Bud Chiari, um, that was an aunt. And my mom would’ve been 80 or would she have been about 85? At this point, she’s died. She died at 69 of lung cancer, never smoked, but I believe that was the DDT and, and maybe the grief and everything that happened.
Um, but I look at, um, you know, what, what actually happened there and the amount of disease that my family had, and you can only put it down to. The chemicals that were being sprayed in Iowa and all those things. So, so my mom, um, had my sister [00:29:00] in, in the USA, um, and my sister was born in 1959. My mom couldn’t eat for those first three months of her birth, of her pregnancy with my sister.
So my mom would’ve been filled with arsenic or lead and DDT and any other chemicals that were being sprayed in the middle of the chemical revolution. So she would’ve been sprayed with all that. She would’ve had them in her fat cells because they’re fat loving. So she would’ve dumped them onto my sister.
And my sister was born small. She was always little, she was always sick. And she passed away from cancer in her forties. Um, she was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease called Crest, which was an acronym for five Autoimmune Diseases like she had. Here am I the best of health? Um, because I was born 16 months after her mom had cleaned out.
She had me and then she had my brother. So my brother and my dad and I are in robust health, but my mom and my sister were always never in the, the robust [00:30:00] of health. And, um, and both of those passed away five months apart from each other. I think my mom, she’d watched her. Her uncles, um, sorry. Her brothers pass away and, and her family pass away, and I think the last straw is her mother died.
In the February. Um, and then my sister was diagnosed with esophageal cancer. And then I noticed my mom, my mom had the most beautiful feet, always wore the most beautiful shoes, and they had swollen like elephant feet. And I said, mom, what’s happening? So that’s when we realized that she was sick and had lung cancer, and I think it was just too much for her. And she passed away before my sister, and then my sister passed away after that. So yeah, that was. These, these were, um, oh
Guy: wow.
Cyndi: Um, I don’t usually cry about this, but there’s just so much happening in the world at the moment, um, that I, I find myself [00:31:00] becoming more emotional than I’ve ever been before. ’cause I’m pretty stoic and I’m pretty, I’m pretty good at, at talking about this. But, you know, losing those, those two to cancer, my, my first belief was, ’cause this was back in 2006, so my first belief was, oh, what good am I, I’m a nutritionist and I couldn’t even help ’em. But we do the best with the knowledge we’ve got at the time. And then as we do no better, we do better. And what I found amazing is that their deaths really opened up my spiritual world for me.
So at first it was, I’m giving up nutrition. I’m no good as a nutritionist. What good am I? I couldn’t even help them. Um, maybe I’ll do spiritual work. You know, I really understand that now. I went to Brian. We, I had, I’ve seen so many past lives and future lives. Um, but what that gave me was, I think peace, an incredible peace about.
All the tragedy that had happened before that. And then, I don’t know, [00:32:00] um, you know, my husband joined me in my business. He gave, he said, why don’t you create a documentary on your discovery about all these chemicals that you’re learning about? And it was, it was doing that documentary that I realized it wasn’t my fault.
My mom and sister died. It was the regulatory bodies in the US and Australia. It was there. Um, mismanagement of what was being passed and what was being sprayed on our foods and what was allowed in our foods and what was allowed on our skin, and what was allowed on, you know, in agriculture. It was their misrepresentation of things being safe when they’re not safe.
And it was the companies, so I forgave myself, um, because you’ve gotta forgive yourself at some point. So I forgave myself, um, for that. And then thought, I got a lot of information here, a lot of stuff that people need to know. [00:33:00] And I realize what I do is I learn for myself first. And then I pass that knowledge on.
So I learn for myself, I do the best that I can for my health and my family’s health. And then I go, this knowledge needs to be passed on. And so that’s why I write. I write, you know, an article a week goes on my blog or, um, I write books. Um, I did a documentary. I have an, um, you know, um, a nutrition education program.
So. Um, and tomorrow, you know, I’m doing an all day webinar with my graduates, teaching them how they can teach other people. Because if there’s this incredible ripple effect that you have, guy and I have, then we can create the tsunami of change is, which is what I’m looking for. But we have to, I believe, get more and more people on board.
More and more people need to know this because so many people are suffering because they don’t know this. They think that the grocery store with its ultra processed foods, um, well, the government wouldn’t put [00:34:00] something in my food that was gonna make me sick, wouldn’t be allowed on the supermarket shelf if it was, if it was not good for my health.
Surely that drug, you know, is okay. They’ve, they’ve okayed it for provisional or approval, you know, so people have this, um, stupid, stupid, I think it is belief. That our government is about our health, but I don’t, I believe in the last 18 months that our government has shown. What they really think about our health, and it is, you know, when we know the ingredients of health and they don’t allow us to have those ingredients in our health, then you can see where their narrative is.
And it’s, it’s not about our health. I can, I’ve seen it for 40 years, I’ve been doing this 40 years with the dietary guidelines, with the chemicals being sprayed on our food with, um, the synthetic biology that’s allowed in our food that people don’t even know. Is in their food. You know, they just, they, they, they believe that their food is, is safe and the government sanctioned it.[00:35:00]
Guy: Yeah. Firstly, thank you for sharing that. Honestly, I I, I, I didn’t know the full story, Cyndi. And, um, so thank you. The, um, what I’m fascinated as well out of all that is, um. Spa of, of spiritual growth that you, you, you spoke of and speak of and have been leaning down. If, if, if you could encapsulate what that means to you in a nutshell, what would it be?
Cyndi: Before my, what does it mean to you? Yeah. Before my sister died, I don’t know if I can do it in a little nutshell. It’s gonna be a bigger one,
Guy: but before my big nutshells are fine, mate. We got time.
Cyndi: So before my sister died, I remember us sitting on my veranda and, and I said to her, I, I said. How do we know what happens when we die? You know, my sister was, she was, um, an incredible mind anyway. I said, how, how do we know what happens when we die? What if, what if we die and there’s nothing? [00:36:00] And then she goes, and, and then I go, and, but what if we die and there’s something, what, what is, what is there? And she just goes, does it really matter, Cyndi?
Does it really matter that you knowing right now when you die, whether. Something’s gonna happen or not. You know, it’s, it’s not important right now. You have to stay in that, in that present moment. So when she passed away, I saw her pass with incredible grace. I was there when she passed. She told jokes.
She, she said to me, I must have learned all my lessons. I’m, it’s now time for me to go. Um. She, yeah, she, she fired her receptionist saying she didn’t need her anymore. Um, just these, these incredible things that she did. So I watched her, her past with incredible gr with incredible grace and not scared at all.
Um, and she knew she was dying. You know, she, she had about, I’d say 12 hours where she knew that this was the end for her. [00:37:00] Um, she came to me in a, a dream. Um. I would say three weeks after she passed away, within three weeks after she passed away, and we were having an argument, she was in a, the bed beside me and a single bed, and I, I looked at her and I went, I thought you died.
And she said, no, I didn’t. I said, I watched you die. And I was like, this argument. And she goes, no, Cyndi, we don’t die. So it’s almost like she answered. My question to her in life. She answered it in my dream, in her death. The very next day I was, um, with my daughters and they were wanting to look at surf gear, and I lost the plot in the surf shop.
Just started to cry and they pulled me outta the surf shop and right next to it was a spiritual shop. And I walked into this spiritual shop and I went beeline to a book shop, pulled the book out, the book’s part of it, pulled this book out, looked at it, read the back, and [00:38:00] thought, no. No. And I put it back, I got home and a girlfriend said, I have a gift for you. And it was that book.
Guy: Wow. Yeah.
Cyndi: It was that book and it was called, um, many Lives, many Masters, um, by Brian. We, so I, I or I read every book on the subject I wrote, journey of the Soul. Um, souls of the Souls. I Can’t, I read every book I could possibly read on the topic and. I felt like my sister pushed me towards that. And so now I live, like even with all this happening in the world, I kind of go, well, I know what happens when I go. I know. I, I’ve seen my future lives. I’ve seen my past lives. I, um, and, and when I was at your live and flow, and we did that in incredible sound and breath healing. Oh my gosh. I ha I think I said it.
I, they, a, you guys asked what was it like? I went. Best ride of my life, best ride I went through from, you know, [00:39:00] thousands of years ago, right to the future. And it was just like this gallop through time. It was like, I get goosebumps thinking about it. It was just absolutely incredible. So amazing people have been put into my lives.
You, um, Matt Omo, the two of you together, you know, um, have been put into my life to increase my spiritual. Understanding. And even though I don’t talk about it except now, but I don’t talk about it when I’m, when I’m, I talk nutrition, I talk health, it has been a way of, um, understanding that I’ve put myself on this planet this time for a reason and I either can stay quiet.
Or I can make a noise and help other souls reach whatever it is that they need to reach in order to not fear what is happening at the moment. Um, to find health, to find. Once you find health, I think your mind becomes really clear. You know, you [00:40:00] get, you haven’t got a foggy brain and you’re not having depressed thoughts.
You know, I, I’m listening to a book at the moment, and it’s, it’s by a woman who’s depressed and I’m listening to her thoughts and I’m thinking, I’ve never thought that way. I’ve never had those thoughts. But it’s interesting listening to her because. When we get our physical body well and mental, um, thoughts become more positive.
And so my drive is to get people to get as healthy as they can so that they now have the time to be nice to themselves. And as Kim Morrison would say, you know, have self-love. Um, and with that, you, you just emanate it. You just kind of go, you know, this is a great world, this is a great planet. It’s, there’s so much to do.
Like I might be stuck in Queensland. I know you are stuck in New South Wales, but I might be stuck in Queensland and not be able to see my brother and my father and my niece and my nephew. I got a whole world out there that I can hike that’s just an hour from my place and I [00:41:00] can disappear for three days and nobody knows where I am. So, so that’s the way I look at it.
Guy: Yeah. Beautiful. Well that’s a beautiful nutshell. Thank you. And, and it is right, we it. Oh my God, this, I’m. Cheering on with every word you’re saying right now, Cyndi? Honestly, like, and I, and I, I think about it like, ’cause I’m 20 minutes north of Byron Bay and I’m a guy from Wales that, you know, um, grew up near coal mines in, in the valleys, you know, and, and I think of, of as.
Tough as it is, how many things I, I get to be grateful for each day and focus on, on those things that fill me up. Mm-hmm. And, uh, and one, one aspect of it is like you say, what we eat, what we do, how we live supports our, our mental wellbeing, so, so much and it’s so crucial. You know, I’m, I’m curious to know as well.
What’s, what’s, what’s next for you? Because you, your, your path has been forever [00:42:00] moving, adapting, growing, and you’ve, you’ve got to this point now, I guess, in your life and it’s like, where do you, are you just one day at a time now or are there still aspects you, you want to explore or?
Cyndi: I want to put more education on my education platform. So I have a registered training organization and I really want to add more to that. Like I’ve really kept it at nutrition, but now I want to, um, really expand with the registered training organization, teaching people other aspects of, of, um. Health and life. So that’s number one. I’m, I’m doing that. Um, my farm continues to, uh, grow and adapt like I do. Regen farming, holistic farming. We’re doing natural sequence farming. We do syn tropic farming. So that’s been an incredible journey of six years of growing food.
Guy: Wow.
Cyndi: Understanding. How we do that. So I’m in the middle of building a shed at the moment, which will become [00:43:00] an education center not only for farming matters, such as all the ones that I’ve just talked about, those four aspects of it. So I’m doing that. I’m regenerating my rip riparian area. I have a waterway. I’m at a watershed, so I’m at the top of a watershed. So anything that comes off my land is as clean and as crystal clear. So I’m, um, cleaning up the riparian area and regenerating that. Um, I wanna be a matriarch. I wanna be a matriarch of, um, my family.
I’m got grand babies. I’ve got my first one arrived, um, the fifth of the fifth this year in dramatic style, but that’s another. Amazing story that I can tell another time. And I have my next one arriving in about six weeks. So, um, to me, this is my life now to look after my family, to make sure that they’re safe, um, to leave the world in a better place for them to live in.
Um, I do worry that where my, my little sage [00:44:00] grace will be in. When I, she’s my age in 60 years. Um, but I’ll just make sure that everything’s set up so that when I leave this planet, she knows where to go. I keep, I say to her, I see her every day and I say to her, I’m gonna teach you gardening and I’m gonna teach you how to grow food, and we’re gonna learn how to butcher meat and, and we’re gonna learn how to grow chickens and eggs.
And, and she, you know, she has no idea what I’m saying, but I just think these skills that I was taught, that you weren’t taught. Guy that you’ve had to learn Now as parents, and I know you are a parent, as parents, it is the most important thing we do as grandmothers, grandfathers, as parents. Um, we have to teach these kids life skills, not maths.
Maths is important and English is important, but not all the other crap. Like I homeschooled my kids because I couldn’t stand the education rhetoric. It was. [00:45:00] It’s just like back in the nineties I was ready to just slaughter the whole lot of the teachers that, um, you know, this whole thing that’s happening in education.
I wanted to educate my kids and teach them, you know, what was important in life. And I got three in pretty incredible kids that having. Gone by the wayside in any way. Um, you know, two having babies and the other one’s about to move to Barcelona, um, to be, to go to university. Yep. She leaves on the Octo October 7th, so she’s about to go to Barcelona and live her life.
She’s single. And I said, I don’t know why you’re staying here, honey. Go and go and see the world and go educate yourself and, and be amongst people that are doing incredible things. And it’s the university she’s going to is um, she’s very excited. Yeah.
Guy: Yeah. How brilliant. How brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Look, you know it’s funny, like thinking like Ava now is, I think 14 months, 14 and a half months, and there’s just part of me that’s [00:46:00] so grateful that I’ve.
I’ve been on my own journey first before becoming a dad. And I, and I know it’s, hindsight’s a wonderful thing and I’m sure if I had it 10 years ago, you know, it, it would be, it is what it is. But there’s just a part of me that’s very, uh, grateful to, I guess, come to conclusions within my own life first and be able to do my best to impart that wisdom for her, to honor her own little, little soul journey as she grows. Anyway, that’s for sure. Yeah, I, um.
Cyndi: That awakening is, is so
Guy: important.
Cyndi: So,
Guy: pardon? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Um, I got one last question for you, Cyndi, before we wrap it up. And, um, I ask everyone this on the show, but essentially is with everything we’ve covered today, what would you like to leave our listeners to ponder on?
Cyndi: That you are all powerful, that by, um, spending your money. Within your [00:47:00] local community, we can change the world. I guess that that’s it. Eat real food. Eat real food. But I, I, yeah, I, I, I really believe that you are all powerful. You just have to find your power. Um, and number one, how you spend your money is incredibly powerful. So.
Guy: Yeah, totally. As, um, I love Bruce Lipton. Um, set a quote on my show a couple of months back and, and it stuck with me ever since. He said Knowledge is power, but knowledge of self is self-empowerment. And as, as we get to know ourselves more, I think we can, we can start making more conscious choices moving forward. Yeah.
Cyndi: That is a good
Guy: Cyndi. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I, I just wanna thank you. It’s not often I get teared up on my show and, and. You, you’re an incredible woman. You’re an incredible advocate, and you’re insanely inspiring [00:48:00] and you’re, you’re certainly an inspiration for me and I’m, I’m just grateful to have started and gotten to know you and thank you for coming on my show today. It’s, it’s deeply appreciated and I can tell you now, anyone listening to that Will, will, will be leaving this today feeling aspired. So thank you.
Cyndi: Thank you. I feel very honored to be on your show. Thank you.
Guy: Thank you, Cyndi.