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Anne:
The structures of our world banking system, government systems, things that we think that we actually need are in fact cages that are preventing us from living in freedom. The hardest thing to do is to just let ourselves be free. We have to let ourselves be fully in our truth, and we have to allow others to do the same. That freedom is what then generates the new field of the new Earth, which comes from inside of us. Now I channel the mother of creation. She is the mother of all souls. She says, now you will remember me, which is her energy, the energy of unity, of bringing things back together again. Back into unity and balance. That’s her. So that is why she’s back now is ’cause she says, this is the moment of integration.

Guy:
Hey everyone, guy here. My beautiful guest today is Ann. Tucker, and it was the first time I met Anne and had her on the show, and it was really great to connect. She’s a channeler, but I, I tend to not really dive into channeling per se on the podcast. I’m much more interested in actually the message behind it and having a conversation and of course getting to know Anne today. But we dive into obviously a hot topic that seems to be happening across, uh, especially my channel. And you’ll see coming up is about reality. At the moment and this divide, the split and how the energies are shifting on the planet. So I wanted to get Anne’s perspective to have this conversation today, and she definitely leads into about the structures that that we depend on are acting like actually cages.

And the reversals that is happening and underway at this moment. It’s a really interesting conversation. I’d love to hear your perspectives and this, this whole concept of the divine mother energy, now feminine energy is really starting to come back into play on the planet right now. So please let me know what you think in the comments below. It’s always wonderful to connect. It’s very easy to be passive and watching these channels and just flick onto the next, I know. But a lot of love and effort goes into getting this content out every week and it’s wonderful to, to hear from you where you are in the world and if they’re making a difference in your life.

So it’s always nice to hear that. As always, there’s links blow from our resources as well. We have an incredible results in our online mentorship. Programs that we run, we we create and hold space every month. I don’t mention it much on the podcast, but I should probably. But also we’re gonna be in Bali for five days. Mastering you’re in a mystic as well at the end of June this year, which will more than likely sell out as our 31 previous retreats now as well. Anyway, it’s all there. Hopefully I get to meet you somewhere in person. Let me know what you think of this episode with Anne and this conversation, and I will catch you soon. Much love.

Guy:
Anne, welcome to the podcast. So lovely to

Anne:
Thank you. Thank you so much. So great to meet you too. Appreciate the time together.

Guy:
yeah, Me too, Me too, as always. Talking off air, um, for five, 10 minutes first, so it’s like, let’s, let’s, let’s do this. My, my, my first question, I always love to ask, like, ’cause we spoke off air. Like if you were at an intimate dinner party or dinner table, you know, with a group of people and strangers somebody asks you what you did for a living, how would you respond?

Anne:
I love that question. ’cause it’s such a thing. Like I, one of my wounds, I had to heal this time around, this life was the fear of being seen. And so, like I was that little girl that when cars drove by the front of my house, I would hide in the bushes. You know, I was, I was, I was very shy. I. So here I am loud and proud on YouTube doing my thing. So how did I get from there to there? Right. And it was, it was progression. But yeah, in the beginning I would always describe it, you know? Oh, ’cause I used to be, I used to be in the corporate world. Like I had a very conventional life, a successful conventional life that I left behind in order to do this, which everybody is like, you’ll never make a living doing that, you know?

So it was, it was, yeah. And I did lose friendships in the process people, and I lost, you know, I lost a whole business. So it was a big decision to go down this path. But you know, when you’re feeling that call, you just, you can’t not, you can’t avoid it. You, you just, it’s just too all consuming. So in the beginning I would just say, oh, I was a consultant. You know what I mean? And then I kind of went into, I’m a, he. I would kind of describe it to people like, I’m a healer. Have you ever heard of reiki? Yeah. Because a lot of people know what that is. These days I’m flat out, I channel angels, I channel the mother creation. Yes. I’m a healer. Like I, even, even with my accountant, I go in, it was so funny.

I uh, met with these two, two guys, a new, new accounting company and I tell them, yep, this is what I do. And I had a friend who actually worked in their office and these very, you know, guys never heard anything about this kind of stuff. After I left, they were both in their offices checking out my YouTube channel. I was like, score.

Guy:
That’s gold. That’s gold. It, it is interesting, isn’t it? I had, I had actually issues in, in probably inviting somebody that spoke openly like yourself on, onto my podcast at first, talking about the very things that we’ll be talking about today.

Anne:
Yeah.

Guy:
You know, Yeah. oh, I, you know, Welshman, it’s Yeah. talking about this stuff. It’s kind of strange, but, but I’ve. Tuned into the energy more and more, especially through facilitating and, and you start to work with non-physical, like there there’s a direct correlation or relationship that starts to happen. It’s becomes undeniable and you just kind of go, well, Yeah. But Yeah. what, what, do you think it is about being unseen?

Anne:
Like what was that wound all about?

Guy:
Yeah. And for people, because that is so, so common.

Anne:
Yeah. Yeah. I think it comes from a bunch of different, I, I actually specifically know the root of mine. ’cause I literally, I’ve, I, I’ve worked very arduously on my healing for like, more than a decade, almost two decades, constantly working on every single trigger or what’s coming up. And so through that process, I’ve been, I now, just in the last year. If you think of, of each, each of especially your primary mother and father wound as like a thread that goes through your whole life and it just shows up like in the worst places, like in every relationship and in, you know what I mean? Every boss or whatever, you, you just keep finding this ugly thing. I finally found like the tail of it and I finally found the end piece of it and resolved both my mother and father wound in the past year.

So now I can confidently say I know where mine came from. And mine was from in my, in my, it literally started in utero. It started when I was in the womb. And there was the feeling at the time of my birth. My parents were going through a very rough time in their relationship and they were in the process of splitting and my dad wasn’t there very much. And I had the feeling as an infant that uh, if my dad wasn’t around, we wouldn’t be okay. And I’m sure I was picking up my mom’s fear and everything like that. How are we gonna support ourselves? ’cause she had me, plus my brother, who’s a little older. So, so as an infant, I felt that if I, if my dad wasn’t around, we wouldn’t be safe.

So related to my safety and I felt that I had to have no wants. I had to have, I had to be like, as, make it as easy as possible so that he wouldn’t leave. Right. I had to like repress all of my needs be as super, you know, like not cry, not fuss, whatever. So that we would be okay. And so it came from this thing of like, and, and then that played out in relationships over the course of my life where I would have a really hard time speaking my truth, a really hard time. Uh, and so I call it self abandonment, you know? And I think people do it for different reasons where, and then, and then even worse, I think our culture and, and I’m sure like it’s, it’s not just in the us it’s, I mean, many Western, I think, well, everywhere that I can know of, you know, many cultures. Reward us for self-sacrificing.

They reward us like as a little girl, I was told, always told, oh wow, you’re such a diplomat. You know? That’s such a wonderful quality. And I was praised for the ways that I would abandon myself for being so easygoing for never having any problems, you know. And I think that’s something people can relate to. And I think a lot of spiritual, like people who are attracted to this field, to this work, it’s they’re old souls, you know? This is the pathway of the old soul and we come in regardless of what our plans are for our life. We come in, I think. Having a depth of knowing about ourselves that we feel that we can handle more.

We feel like we can handle if there’s emotional stuff going on. If there’s difficulty going on, we just, well, you know what? I’ll take that. I’ll take it from myself because I know I can handle it, and I’ll create harmony around me. And that’s that pathway of self abandoning. And I had to slowly learn to, to take ownership of what my needs are. And I had to, I had to reframe my understanding of what it was to be good, that it’s not good if I am, if I am, in fact, I have to, I had to, to reframe it as being untruthful. I had to take it away from being a good thing and see it as being a not honest thing. And that really helped me to heal the wound to see that, that when I, when I say what I’m feeling, that’s actually me investing in the relationship.

That’s actually me showing up. And if I create waves, I, you know, I gotta create those waves. Because that’s me showing up. In my honesty, that’s me investing, investing myself into the relationship. And if I don’t do that, the relationship’s not successful. So it was really a, a restructuring of all of the cultural programming of the fear, enormous fear around doing that in the beginning. Right. So there, it was a multi-layered process I had to go through, which is, yeah. And I am a healer that’s. That I help other people do that to unwind. ’cause it’s different for all of us. But unwinding it is a, is a thing. It, it takes time, but the freedom that comes from it, incredible. Incredible. I will tell you that I am, uh, happier. Yeah. Happier. There’s less resistant to my life, more peace in my life than there’s ever been.

Guy:
I know the feeling, but, but. It in some ways though, at the same time, the struggle is real. when Yeah. you’re, you’re leaning into this, you know, it’s, it is not moonbeams and rainbows at the same time. It, it, it can, you know, be really, It’s brutal. Yeah. brutal. Yeah. Was there like, um, any kind of knowing or sense or experiences from a young age to know that you had to go down this path or were you kind of like bumped along until you started to get it?

Anne:
It was, I, I was raised in a family that had no religion of any kind. I had, my parents had divorced, they both remarried. All four of them were raised in different faith traditions. So consequently, there was no faith tradition. And my, my parents were very, especially my mom was very, very intellectual. So if anything, they was kind of like, anybody who was into religion was kind of looked down on like, like that was a cult, you know, like all religion was considered. So it was very, my, my household growing up. There was no space for any of this, but I did, as a little kid, I saw and every, we had one tv, you know, in the room and the whole, and I had a huge family ’cause we had a blended family, all these kids. And so 60 Minutes was a show everyone could agree on. And there was a show where they had, they were talking about ESP and they were showing people doing flashcards and you know, can you read?

And I had this like. I can do that. I had, it was like, and I, you know, and I tried it. I tried testing myself and I couldn’t, but I just knew there was some part of me, like, I know I can do that. And a couple other influences like that where I just had this deep knowing, but it didn’t, and I would have moments, you know, moments where I would, would be like, it was that deja vu or whatever, but it didn’t really come in until I had, it was after my, my first divorce. My first divorce was my moment that I had to kind of shatter. Everything in my life, and it was through the process of everything being, being kind of broken apart into tiny pieces that I then had to question everything and that opened the doorway to, I started having these sort of crazy, like truly crazy psychic experiences. And then that led me down the path of like quitting my job and doing, you know, like, I’m gonna be a healer, like going crazy as people would say in the very best way.

Guy:
Yeah. Can, can you give us an example? Like, like Yeah. to, Yeah.

Anne:
Oh, okay. So, I mean, there were so many, but like, one was, um, I had just gone, uh, I had just gone to a festival, uh, where, and I had met some friends there. It was kind of like down in Costa Rica. I’d met some friends. I had gotten home and I thought about one of them. And all of a sudden I popped into her body and I was looking out of her eyes. I could see the TV show she was, she was on an airplane. I could see the show, like the actor that was in the movie she was watching. She looked at this direction, she looked at this lady’s sandals. I could see the sandals like freaked me out, immediately popped back into my own body and I send her a text like.

Are you on an airplane? Like where are you right now? Everything was a hundred percent confirmed. And then I thought, wow, this is really a bizarre, like bilocation strange phenomenon. So then I started try trying to practice it where I would make an appointment with a friend and say, okay, tomorrow at 11 I’m gonna try to do this. And see what happens. And I, the second person I did it with, I knew that she was gonna be at a hotel at a conference, and I tried 11 o’clock. I went into her. I tried to look through her eyes, but I couldn’t see anything. But I could feel, and I could feel on her legs. It felt like she had, like, I imagine that she was sitting underneath the tablecloth.

’cause I could feel multiple layers of fabric on her legs. So I could feel that very clearly. There’s a couple sensations that I had that were very distinct, but no vision. So I texted her, I’m like, yeah, I don’t think it worked. I couldn’t see anything at 11. She sends back a, a text and she says at 11 o’clock we were blindfolded ’cause we were doing a meditation and I was cold, so I had my scarf on my lap, and that was the texture that I felt, the two layers of fabric on her legs. So a hundred percent accurate. So it ended up like, I didn’t, I was like, why? Like, why? What does this mean? Why is this happening? And there was of course, multiple layers to it, but it ended up being part of my healing modality in the beginning. In the beginning, I would, I would move, I would be like a gateway into another person’s physical body where the angels could move through me and heal from the inside.

So it was, it was, and I could feel, the cool thing about is I could feel when an energy would, would release, like, it’s like a whoosh. It was like it came outta my own body. So it was, that was cool. I don’t do it that way anymore, but, but in the beginning, that was sort of a doorway to a, a way of working.

Guy:
Moving now. What, what does heal mean to you? Like how, how do you look at the,

Anne:
Yeah, it’s, I, so, you know, I’m glad you asked because so many people, like when I first started on my journey, I hated the word healing. ’cause I thought it implied that like there was something broken and I was like, there’s nothing broken about me. You know, why do I need healing? And I came to understand that it’s not about a. Like it, it is an integration. So if you think about every part of yourself, every part of your life, each moment, especially the highs and the lows like that, they each can sort of break apart and become like a separate self. Like we talk about our inner child, you know, that we think of our inner child as this sort of other person.

Well think about if there’s moments in your life that were particularly traumatic. So for me, it would’ve been that. You know, those moments in, in the womb where, you know, I had these feelings, these fears about abandonment and all this kind of stuff that would think of that as like an isolated self, like a part of yourself. And that piece of myself was too painful, was too difficult for me to face. So I would put a push it down and push it down and push it down and push it down. Healing is the process. Integrating all those loss or those forgotten or repressed parts of ourself. And the idea is imagine that each of us is like a, is like a big open pipe through which divine source light flows, right?

And every moment of ourself, every piece of ourself that we don’t like or that we wish was different or that we try not to experience are like areas of resistance inside that po that pipe blocking the flow of our light. As we heal, we integrate each of those pieces into the whole opening up the flow so that more and more light can come through. In a nutshell, that’s it. It’s really about integration of all parts of you in a way that that takes away all judgment. It’s where we find peace with who we are. It doesn’t mean we’re perfect, but we stop resisting who we are and we come into a place of peace with who we are, and that allows us to become more in flow, and over time we get brighter and brighter.

Guy:
Hmm. I love it. I love Yeah. What, what, why, why do you think it is? Because what, what, what you clearly said in such a short space of time is that by going inward, allows us to connect more and more to the divine. Yes, let, yes. but we’re so conditioned. To look outside of ourselves.

Anne:
Yes. Yeah, I think that’s a fascinating question. So one of the thoughts I had is that before we incarnate, like when we’re on the other side, we are one with everything. So, so when you think about yourself before you come into a physical body, if you’re just a point of consciousness and you are out. Ether connected to everything. Your interrelationship with everything is total. Where if you wanna connect to another being, you literally merge with them and you experience in the same way that I would blend with another person, I would go into their body on the other side. We can, we can meld with someone to the point of truly knowing them.

So there’s. There’s this, the idea that we are on the inside and they are on the outside, doesn’t exist on the other side, and then we come into a human body and all of a sudden we’re cut off from all of that and all of a sudden it’s just us and we can’t feel and we, you know, and it’s like this vague other that’s out there. And I think we are continuing to look out to say, where is that connection that I’m missing? And we have to relearn that. The only doorway to get back to that experience of total connection. Is through the one piece of us that is still connected, which is the divine spark inside of our heart, and that is the only doorway we left open to get back to that state of unity.

Guy:
Do you, do you feel then that separation is. Intentional. Like yeah. do you, I mean, I, you know, that’s where I feel too, but like I’d love to hear your thoughts on how you look at it and in that almost that we have to borrow in further and further into the 3D separation, physical aspects of our life to get to a point we start to return back to ourselves. Yes. how do you I absolutely agree. out? Yeah. I think that is actually the model of growth that humans and humanity is experiencing. That there’s lots of different ways that a, that a, an organism can grow. Like, for example, plants grow. There’s, you know, they grow like grass grows, you know, always from the root. Whereas tomatoes.

Anne:
An indeterminate tomato grows always from the tip. Like we have different models of growth. Humans, I think of our structure of growth, like if you’ve ever seen a jellyfish swim where it expands out and fills with water and then whoosh, it pushes water out and it goes forward. That’s what I think our pattern of growth is like where we expand out into separation. We separate, we separate, we separate, we separate, and then all of a sudden we, we integrate. We propel ourselves forward by integrating everything we learned through that process of separation. So I think that it’s very intentional and I think it’s how the universe grows. So I think it’s, it is, I think it’s, it’s not at all a mistake.

And I think right now at the state of consciousness we’re in, where we’re getting ready to move into the higher state of consciousness, I think this is the turning point. I think this is where we have reached, it’s sort of like, if you think of it, think of everything as a breath and if you breathe in. As much as you can. We’re separating expanding our body to become, to hold as much air. We’re putting as much space as we can between ourselves, right? Expanding. Expanding. And we get to a point where we just can’t expand anymore. There’s just no more room. That’s the point that we are at in so many ways, right on Earth right now. And so then finally we will relax and in that process, integrate and come back into unity and move into the next higher state of consciousness.

Guy:
Hmm. No, absolutely. I I love the jellyfish analogy. Yeah, it’s, that’s exactly it. So with your, uh, channeling. Did that just come naturally through your, your own inward healing journey? Was it just like something, oh, what’s this? This is coming? Or were you sort of intentionally starting to connect? Like how did that start to

Anne:
Yeah, it came in stages. So in the beginning my channeling was, I was mostly clear. It started ’cause with clairvoyance that was the beginning and the way I first discovered I could do it. As I’d heard about channeling, I wanted to learn about channeling I, I went to several channeling workshops. And I, uh, on one of the breaks when I was at a channeling workshop, we had a break and I sat on the, we were, it was at Essel in this gorgeous place on the, uh, big Sur in California where you, it’s just like this insane view of the ocean. It’s just, it’s incredible. And I was sitting out on the patio there with a bunch of people I had just met, knew very little about. And so we decided to try to channel for one another, but we decided to try to channel for things that we. We would, were the, the other person could confirm to tell us if we were actually, rather than saying like, you were the queen of Sheba in a past life, it would be like, channel and tell me about my partner.

Right? So that was the first one. And the woman was like, tell me about my partner. And I, I saw him in my mind’s eye standing next to her, pointing at his tennis shoes. And he had this old pair of tennis shoes on, like, like, you know, old Nikes or whatever. And I told her what I saw and she laughed and she said, yeah, my partner has a collection of 250 pairs of vintage tennis shoes and blew my mind. And that was my first realization that there was something to this. And so, and that then grew as I started practicing. And then I started working as a healer. I had CLA sent and Claire Cognizance. I would, I would see things, feel things, know things. I would even smell things if you could believe it. But then one day, and it was very, very specific, very clear.

Then one day I was sitting out, I, I, this was when I had had left the corporate world. I was working full-time as a healer. I had a whole roster of clients and I sat out to meditate one day. And then, uh, and normally when I would client, when I would work with my clients, I would sort of move into the client’s body and then my guides, my angels would, would move in behind me and come through. And that was how it worked. This time I sat down and meditate. The minute I closed my eyes, it felt like someone sat on me, like my guides, they like literally, there was so much pressure right here and right here. That it was like I could, I could physically barely breathe. It was like, and it was, it was the weirdest feeling.

And I was, I felt like my guides were sitting on me. I’m like, what are you doing? Like I, if you’re trying to come in, like come in already, like what’s happening? And I didn’t understand it. And that went on for literally six months. Every single time I sat down to meditate, the minute I closed my eyes. They would sit on me and I couldn’t make any sense out of it until finally one day it dawned on me. They weren’t trying to come in, they were trying to lift me up. And what I was feeling was the pressure deferential, just like if we, if you go to the bottom of a swimming pool, how the pressure pressures against your ears. That’s the kind of pressure I was feeling, and it was the pressure between my vibration and their vibration.

And so as soon as I realized that my crown opened up and I went up. All of a sudden I see myself through my clairvoyance. I see myself in a space and, and there’s, I’m surrounded by angels and they’re standing there looking at me with this lovely smile and I’m like, oh my God, you know, this is so incredible. Like, what’s happening? And uh, and then they didn’t say anything. They literally just sat there and smiled at me and I’m, I’m trying to talk to them. And nothing like they’re literally, they’re not saying a word. And this went on for another six months where every single time I sat in to meditate, crown open up, I go, and there they are.

And I tried. I tell you, I tried everything. I tried, you know, can we pantomime? How about if you write on a tablet? How about if we like, I tried everything and they were just waiting for me to figure it out. I think it was important that I figure it out for myself.

Guy:
Huh.

Anne:
And so after about another six months, I realized I tried something new, which is that I went up and then, rather than going up all the way, I waited till I got there. And then I, and then I kind of brought a little bit of myself back down and I had a piece of paper, a p, a notepad out with a pen, and I kept my eyes closed so I could stay focused on being up there. But I had just enough down here, so it was like it came down through my arm. Then I just, I just, and as soon as I did that, it was like a pipe opened and words started coming through one at a time.

And every word that came through I’d write, but I couldn’t make sense of it. It would be like word, word, word, word. If I stopped writing, the words would just stick in the tunnel and wait. And so then I would just, another word where, so I kept going till I had like half a page of words. And then I stopped and I thought, well, that, that didn’t make any sense. I don’t think that was working. Like was I imagining that? ’cause that was really like, I didn’t, I did in my mind, as it was coming through, it was nonsensical. I stopped and read it and it was, not only did it make sense, but it was profound. I realized, okay, this, this is the way to do it. Go up and bring a piece of myself back down.

So then I kept communicating with them like that for a little while, and then they said, try dictating. They said, and so I bought dictation software and I tried it that way and I was off to the races and I’ve been a trance channel ever since.

Guy:
Wow. So could you, like, when you go up, would, did you feel them? Could you see them? Like what did they look

Anne:
Yeah.

Guy:
Yeah.

Anne:
Yeah. I mean like, so they can manifest an appearance for us, you know, and often it’s an appearance that makes us most comfortable or what we expect, so. Um, but, but I, I’ve seen ’em at different times. I think probably the, the time and they, I see them in different ways at different times. Sometimes I’ll see them, like when I’m working with them, they’ll come in very close and they’ll show me just like a wing or like this kind of thing. But, but when that moment when I went up, I saw them all standing around me and they looked like angels white with robes and, you know what I mean? But that’s what my mind would expect. But at times, as a relationship deepened, they would, sometimes I would see them as a column of light. A very distinct, very precise column of light that had almost like a geometric quality to it with like a, like if you turned it ever so slightly, you’d see a geometric face in it. So they look different at different times.

Guy:
Hmm.

Anne:
So yeah, so it’s, it, it kind of depends. I’ve had, when I’ve had dreams. Of them. And now I channel the mother of creation, so that’s new. The angels. So I channel, channel the Angels pretty much full-time. Occasionally. Occasionally Yeshua pops in. Occasionally God pops in once an elf popped in, which was very crazy, but mostly angels. And then, and then about a, uh, about a year and a half ago, I started having dreams about this other being who was trying to communicate with me, but I was really scared ’cause her energy was super huge and it just felt overwhelming to me. It just felt like, and it didn’t feel angelic. I knew it wasn’t an angel.

So that scared me. ’cause I’m like, if you’re not an angel, what are you? And I, but I had dream after dream where it was clearly a feminine energy and she was trying to, and then the angels finally told me that they, the whole point. Of me channeling them was that they were safeguarding my connection with her and then who she was that she’s the mother of creation. She’s, she is the mother of all souls.

Guy:
Wow. Okay. I, I wanna go from the side note for it, ’cause I really want to pick up on that dialogue as well. But, uh. How did, and this is part of the personal question for me, ’cause I, I always like to ask people like, like yourself, but your nervous system Yeah. as energy increases, ’cause what I’ve experienced over the years now, I’ve been space holding for about seven years, you know, and. Thousands of people have come through our events, no Yeah. And each time I, I hold space, whether it be in healing Circle or a meditation, that energy wants to increase. And yeah pushes up against, you know, the, the, the parts of yourself that are ready to move. And Yes. sometimes that energy can be too big sometimes, and you come out and you just feel. Fried

Anne:
Yes.

Guy:
you Yes. like, like, it’s gone through, you know, an electric cable, but the electric cable just wasn’t ready to hold that amount of voltage yet, or something like that. That’s how I look Yeah. I’ve always been. Uh, I think maybe my health and fitness background as well, but always kind of gone into the self-inquiry, well, what is happening here? How can I do this better? And how can I be to the point where it’s just flowing? Yeah. Yeah which, which would be nirvana, but I haven’t achieved that quite yet. But yeah. I’m just Yeah from your perspective, what, what did you experience on that journey?

Anne:
Yeah, same that in the beginning when the angels first came in, it was physically painful for me that it felt like, it felt like a a, a helmet, a super tight helmet that came over me, that came down to about here and like just fit over me and it felt like I was in a squeeze box and it just goes and scrolls and I could only hold the connection for 10, 15 minutes in the beginning ’cause it would just be so physically uncomfortable. And then I slowly got used to it and it was, you know, gradually. And then, and then I got very clear instructions about things I could do that would raise my vibration to make it easier so that it’s almost like, like they’re up here and we’re down here and if we can just stretch and, and bridge that distance a little bit more, it’s then we can meet in the middle and it’s a lot easier.

So I went fully vegan, gluten-free for like 15 years and that made a huge distance, a difference. Turns out that I had, I didn’t digest. Dairy. Well, I didn’t digest, and I had, I had learning about why I brought that in at very, as part of my healing, I finally get to the source of when I brought in that intolerance and why, which was fascinating, which is now healed. Woo-hoo. But, but, uh. But so, so diet. I also moved out, I used to be a very like urban suburban girl and I moved out to the country and I grow all my own vegetables. The angels steal steered me to a very specific pro and not that everybody has to do this, I’m on the trance channel diet. It’s very specific for trance channeling, which is, you have to be as clear like to, otherwise I it hurts.

If you’re gonna do it, you gotta open up all the channels. So I do, I grow all my own vegetables. I live in a property where the water here is literally the best water in Washington state. I had the water company tell me that is that we get our water from a well right up the street. They don’t even treat it. Just come straight to my house. And, uh, so it’s, so it’s these environmental factors. But there was a time like where, so the, the angels as they were working with me and trying to grow, always stretching me, like stretching my capacity, trying to get me to hold more energy so that I would be ready to channel mother creation.

So every time I got comfortable where I felt like I was good at something, like when I finally learned how to be a healer and I had my clients and I felt like, Hey, I got this down. I know how to do a session. Like I’m crushing it. This is awesome. And then they were like, they came in and they were like, no more one-on-one sessions. Like, stop doing no more. You’re done. And I was like, oh. ’cause that was like, I had children, I’m like, this is how I make a living. What am I gonna do? And they were like, stop. And we’ll tell you later, but stop no more. And then they had me start doing this more intensive work, deeper work with individuals, and they kind of pushed me along at every stage, helping me to go into like a, uh, like almost like opening up my channels, making the channeling longer, all these things, getting me more and more accustomed to it so that it would be.

Easier, um, for me in the long run. And, and that was, it. It, you build up tolerance, you build up that. And then, and then the other huge thing was my own healing is that I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t have been able to, to channel the mother of creation until after I had specifically I had to. Totally clear my heart chakra. And I had dream after dream where I had dreams, where I was sweeping the dust bunnies out of the garage, you know, and like you’re getting all the last little things out of the, you got it. Like every little thing. And I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t bring her in until that was done. So that, that just by itself was a multi-year.

Project of self-healing. So, but, but I will tell you that one time they told me, as in this process of gradually escalating what I could, what I was meant to be doing, trying to make me take on more and stretch that there was a time I was working with this, I was doing deep intensive work with small groups and then they wanted me to expand and do these other bigger projects, but I didn’t wanna let go. And I, and that was a huge lesson for me in my life, was let go. I have to let go and I have to, otherwise I don’t make space for what’s new. I didn’t wanna let go and so I kind of like cheated it and I was like, well, I’ll just taper it off. You know, I will do fewer sessions with them. We’ll kind of do it, you know, a little bit less.

And so I took on the new program before I really ended the old one, and it absolutely knocked me on my rear that, uh, I was so exhausted. That I would literally sleep between sessions that it was, it was like I couldn’t even, yeah, literally I would do a session. I would sleep, I would do a session, I would sleep. It was way, and I, it taught me a lesson and the only way that I was able to, so I had learned that if I manage my ener, like any way I can. Free up energy in my system at all is gonna help me. So I thought, okay, well I know that one of the things that takes a lot of energy is digestion. So if I’m not eating as often, that would free up energy.

So I started intermittent fasting, which is like a fancy way of saying I skipped breakfast. I just, I just didn’t eat for that long, you know, I left more rest and that did the pro that that fixed. So once I did that, I was able to stay awake between sessions and then I, I’d never made that mistake again. I listened when they told me, they’re like, move on like that. I just, I let it go and I move on. ’cause yeah, it was really a tough time.

Guy:
Yeah. No, it’s brilliant and I’m so glad you, you speak to all those things, you know, because it’s such a important part of my life too. And, Yeah. see people lean into this work, but when you look at their lifestyle choices they make, and it’s not, it’s actually complete polar opposite to what they’re trying to achieve with Yeah. own healing. You know, I actually went and had my DNA tested as well just to ensure, but I was intuitively. Supporting that anyway, if that makes sense. But it was reassurance in the nuances and removing toxins from my life and, and you know, sugar and all the things you mentioned gluten, Mm-hmm. you know, Yeah. It makes a huge difference. Yeah. It’s Yeah. go that way

Anne:
Yeah. as

Guy:
well, so it wasn’t, you know, it’s never been a chore, but.

Anne:
Yeah.

Guy:
I do ponder on though, like with, you know, we, we speak about the, the shifts that are happening at the moment. And this is a pivotal time in the history of humanity and that, but when you look out and ponder world and look at the choices we’re making. Through the, the food choices, the way the food industry set up, the Yeah. set up, the, the financial, you know, all this stuff that we have just slowly over the years allowed ourselves to seep into our life Yeah. unconsciously. What’s us doing to us as individuals Yeah. aware of it. And then you’ve got these frequency changes that, that are happening. You know

Anne:
I totally agree and it is, I think it, it, it would be, I think the thing I love about talking about what you eat and what, what you put around you in terms of your spiritual journey is that it’s so physical and it’s so actionable. It’s something anybody can see and do, and it’s an easy way. To raise your vibration. So, so for me, like I, I am now able to eat dairy and gluten, but I, but my dreams are very, very clear with me. If I, if I, they, I can’t eat too much gluten. They sh they’ve shown me that when I eat gluten, I can, I can, I can handle it now. But my body, because gluten is such an like, it’s, it’s so, such an irritant.

It basically just encase it and allows it to pass through, but it slows my digestion down. So they showed me, yep. It doesn’t, it you don’t grin inflammation anymore, so you’re Okay. So I can, so if I wanna have an occasional pizza, I could do it, but I’m just careful. Like at home, I’m pretty much gluten free and I just have gluten when I’m out. But the freedom that gives me to go to restaurants is enormous. But same thing with it, just, I just, the other day they, like, I was getting the full license on having dairy. But then I, I, they showed me, they’re like, be be picky about your dairy. Like, make sure you’re going organic. Make sure you’re having, you know, what is the hap It’s all about the happiness level of the cows.

Like they’ve gotta be happy cows or you don’t wanna eat it. So, so they’re, they’re showing me like, okay, you can do this. But, you know, and that’s only because I healed the wounds that was, were making me intolerant, but I still, uh, it, it’s. Thinking about the energy, what is the life force? You know, if you can, even if you think about what can you do on a daily basis to up the life force of your food. So shopping at farmer’s markets, getting food that’s fresher or a simple one is like, grow alfalfa sprouts or grow, grow microgreens on your countertop. Like it’s really easy to do. And that’s like so full of life force ’cause it’s literally just sprouted. And anybody could do it. You could do it in a little jar.

You know what I mean? And it, it takes like no light even. It’s super easy. But, but that, and like you said, toxins in, um, uh, like your products that you’re using. I even switched one time the angels told me about fabrics. And they said that, that, that the two best fabrics for, for energy are in terms of what they, what, you know, what sort of a frequency they’re at is linen and wool by far. But, but they’re at polar opposites. They literally are like at opposite sides of the spectrum. They’re both really great. So you wanna wear wool, you wanna wear linen, and, um, but you don’t want them woven into the same fabric. Because they cancel each other out and you end up at zero. And so, um, and then, uh, and then cotton is okay, like organic cotton is like a Z is low.

It’s not very much like, like linen and wool are like in the 3000 something spectrum. They’re really high vibe. Uh, cotton is low. It’s like in the, I don’t know, but it was low silk is one of the worst. Silk is terrible from a frequency perspective and synthetics. Like are really bad. So, uh, so, but silk, it made, I, I was like, really? ’cause I think of silk as being a natural fiber, but then I realized, wait a minute, silk comes from a living being, and that’s why, so I, I bought linen sheets, I slip on linen sheets. I try to wear wool, I try to wear linen. I do wear a lot of cotton, you know, but at least cotton is neutral. And I try to be very conscious of if I’m gonna put on a synthetic, I better really like, it better be something really awesome. I’m not gonna wear it.

Guy:
So, so to me about, um, the mother of creation. Uh, Yeah. who, who is that?

Anne:
Yeah. So she’s, she is the most amazing energy. It is. It has, it is. Just even thinking about her, it, it just lights me up. She is, um, she’s the mother of all souls, so she is, and she jokingly refers to herself as God’s wife. So she’s, she is. The energy of our universe comes from what I would call God or source, ple, uh, God is my word. So please substitute with however, what you know, however you like to refer to, to that energy, but, but that energy as it flows through the mother of creation was given. The ability or given the power from God to create this, to create structure out of that energy, so the energy flows from God. It’s almost like God said, here’s, here’s all the Lego bricks that you could ever want.

Now create anything, but it has to boil down to a Lego brick. It has to boil down to that original shape and that shape. What he, in the way she said it, she said, God taught her the structures and the forms that the universe would take according to his, what he had planned for this universe. And then she got to create it. And, and so that is what we think of as sacred geometry. That’s the math that dictates our universe. And it’s, and that’s why we see these repeating patterns. We see, you know, the, these, these structures take form and, you know, the, the sea shell is the same shape as the universe. Um, and she is, uh. She’s, she’s, it is been an amazing, like the conversations I’ve had with her have become, it’s just deeper and deeper all the time.

But the best thing about it is the more I learn from her, the more I realize that we, we are all of our answers. That, that everything she shows me or tells me. I can almost always boil it back down to, if I was to look at, if I had a question and I said, what would my, how would my body answer that question in the sense of like, the idea about growth. Like, what is, how do he, what is the how, what is the growth path of the human soul? It’s the same as the breath. The breath is the answer, right? We have this expansion and contraction, expansion and contraction that, so every answer is in our body. And so, um, so it’s a long description to get into. Like her original moment, like the way she described it to me is the beginning.

The very beginning is imagine God. Sort of alone before God even exists, before God is even an idea. And then all of a sudden God has consciousness with the question, the realization of I am. And that’s the first moment of God consciousness. God becomes present with the moment of I am I exist. But then the next question is, what am I right? What am I? And that’s the second question of the universe. First question of the universe is really the statement I am, which is will second. Question is, what am I? That question separated God from himself. Created a mirror image of God and that mirror image of God is so, God is unity. God is all things.

And if you ever look in a mirror, you see yourself. Say for example, if you were to go look in a mirror right now, you can see yourself, but it is you in separation from yourself. And so if you hold up text, if you hold up a, you know, words. In a mirror, it surely it reflects the words, but it shows them backwards, in reverse. It shows them, uh, inverted, right? So it’s them. Same thing with with God looking in the mirror when he asks himself, ’cause he’s infinitely creative. What am I? He creates a separation of himself where he can see himself. But that separation, which is all that is, is separation. That’s the reverse, the reverse of God, which is unity, is separation.

So that first moment of separation. Is also because it has all that God is also contains the question of what am I? So immediately that initial reflection divides itself because it has the same question, what am I? And it becomes two halves. And I saw this very clearly in a dream where I saw this. Process of separation. And I saw the mirror form like two halves of a butterfly and one was light and one was dark because they are in reverse one. Another one is divine masculine energy. One is divine feminine energy. And the divine piece of that, the feminine piece of that is the mother of creation.

And so, so this began, and then from that, the next stage of the dream is I saw the entire body fill up with butterflies and they all flew away. And so it was this amazing understanding that from these two initial. Pieces of separation. These two, this part of God, this separation from God, that then separated into two halves that then generated creation, which then populated the universe. And so, yeah, but so that’s who she is. She is the, I guess the left side of that butterfly.

Guy:
Yeah. Okay. why, why now? Why is. The, the channeling coming through now, like specifically, is there a specific message he’s been getting

Anne:
Yes.

Guy:
you’re, what? What is that?

Anne:
Yeah, the big, the big reason is because we’re going through this shift of consciousness is that we have been in the process of going into the depth of separation, which has been very useful and very on purpose, which has been the idea of trying to. Uh, trying to get, to truly answer that first question of what am I right? That’s the first question that we need to, to respond. And so the way we discover that is by isolating ourselves from one another to the point where all we hear, all we feel is ourself, right? So we go deeper and deeper and deeper into separation so that we can have more and more experiences so that we can have a better and better understanding of what we are.

So we, but we finally get to the point, the maximum point where we cannot divide ourselves any further, where we’re separated as we can get. And that is the point that we’re turning, which is where we are now, and coming back into unity. And she says, as we turn that separation is the expression of our divine masculine, as we turn and come back. Then she says, now you will remember me. Which is her energy, the energy of, of reincorporation, the energy of unity, of bringing things back together again, back into unity and balance. That’s her. So that is why she’s back now is ’cause she says, this is the moment of integration. And in the process of doing that.

She’s teaching us. So the same lessons that we are going through is the same lessons that she went through. So she had to explore in the same way that God explored these energies in sequence, she explored these energies in sequence, and now we are exploring these energies in sequence. It’s, it’s the process of growth. And so she’s coming back to tell us. I went through this, this is what it is, this is what you’re going through, this is what you’re gonna experience next. And this is mostly what she’s channeling about. Much of what she’s, what’s coming through is her teaching us, sharing with us where we are, helping us to see the bigger picture.

This is where you are and this is where you’re going and this is what it’s gonna be like and this is how to do it. And it’s a, it’s a really different take. Like everything that we’ve, like in our culture, in our world. We have all these stories about how to get ahead, right? And most of them are, you know, work hard, play hard, and, and there’s, there’s lots of, of stories about the sort of the, the, you know, alpha or type A behavior. And that’s the way to success. And this is, this has been truth, right? That has been a true thing, not so. In the new reality, we’re moving into a brand new energy and the things that worked in the past will no longer work because we’re, we’re facing a totally different, we are in reverse from that. And rather than the idea which we, which has been true, which is this concept of, of take action and, uh, even the concept of manifestation, right?

The way we were all taught in The Secret and all that stuff, and Esther Hicks and these amazing, amazing messages and channels that brought energy information through. About this is how you are meant to create. That is, that is the idea. Think about how much as we’re trying to, like the old story is, you know, uh, see it as if it already exists. Feel it as if you’re already there and, and you know, and you’re really, you’re, you’re focusing your energy. To be in the frequency of what you want to match, right? But think about how much control is involved in that process, right? We’re really trying to control and to meld and to craft our future through our feeling, through our thinking, even through our affirmations, all of it, right?

It’s very focused. We’re trying to manifest in this manifest looks like this. You know what I mean? In the old way. Super. Not the new way. The new way is all about, it’s all coming through the heart. It’s about being, it’s about learning to trust. It’s like, it’s like, like falling back into who we are to the degree that we trust that whatever’s going to emanate from us is going to be our truth, and that we have to trust who we are deeply enough, that we are willing to let that come. And it’s not coming from wounding, it’s coming from the now moment only, and that’s much closer to where we’re headed in the new reality.

Guy:
Yeah, fascinating, isn’t it? I mean, I Yeah. what comes to mind is that I always think about the individual per, like the micro and the macro Yeah. the human, or you could even be like a cell in the body. But then the Mm-hmm. 50 trillion cells, and with Yes, we are a cell’s, a yes.

Anne:
Yeah. Like a cell, like we’re in the body of God. Right. And that’s, I see it the same way. I, I think the same thing. And cells divide, you know, like every, they grow through mitosis and they split and it’s, it’s, yeah. Which is why I say you can always go back to the body to find the answers. Yeah. How does a body grow through division?

Guy:
yeah, and what’s fascinating as well though, is like when you have an individual and that that. Almost like that pressure cooker, you know, the contractions in place or the expansion and stuff comes up is like the, the story and the meaning and what we impose upon it can be so very different to the actual, uh, wound that’s wanting to shift the energy that’s wanting to, to release as Oh And then it’s never the same thing. And it’s amazing how much our beliefs and stories and our governing. Our lives. But then I look at the collective, what’s Yeah. at the moment, and it’s like, Yeah. doing that.

Anne:
I agree with you, and it’s, I, I think of healing as like a spiral that we go through, you know, and in the, and, and we have to kind of move through the different layers of our energy. So when we get up kind of to the top of a system of energy, I find that’s when I see people getting, finally getting to the belief systems and the habits. You know, the habits are like some of the last things to go. And so, but yeah, it’s like, it’s, it’s, there’s all these different layers of the stack that we have to go through to try to finally clear ourselves of a particular pattern. Um, but I love, I actually see, look out into the world right now and I see all the chaos that’s happening.

And to me, I see it as an amazing sign that we are close, you know, because this is in the same way that a human heals by stuff coming to the surface to, you know, we have to go through it. Feel it. And that feeling is the integration through the heart chakra, which is how we finally integrate the lesson. And that is what’s happening. You know, I, and it’s been going on. It’s just like we are the frogs in the boiling pot where it just gets crazier and crazier. The level of crazy in the world just going up and up and up. This is, this is more than anything. This is proof positive. That we are on the right path because as all these things rise, everybody’s triggered.

We’re having to deal with the stuff that would normally be repressed. I sort of like, like, uh, like imagine going back to a reunion before all this stuff was crazy in the world and you’re having a reunion and everybody’s just able to stay on the surface and talk about the weather and talk about their pets and talk about things that nobody gets upset and it’s harmonious and everyone’s getting along and, and everything just stays buried. And then we go through the chaos in the world and everybody goes to that same reunion. And emotions are raw and everything’s right on the surface, and conflict happens and everybody’s fighting and nobody’s getting along. And what’s happening is all that garbage that needs to be gone through, that’s always been there, right?

It’s not, it’s not that it wasn’t there before, it’s just that it was hidden and it’s finally coming to the surface for integration. And so I see all of this, even though it’s really hard, I see it as proof that we’re on our way.

Guy:
Yeah. How do you, or or even, what advice would you have because it, it’s very, um, to fall into the slipstream of fear and be pulled Yeah. that contracted energy and suppose to that, that expansiveness that we, we are moving into and I often feel into, or I’m a, leaning into the expansiveness of myself or am I. Getting pulled into that and there’s, you know, that collective fear that is constantly just being Yes. almost as if it’s wanting to maintain control or if it’s fear in its own death. I, I don’t know, but Yeah. know, it, it can be hard to just the light in and surrender to

Anne:
Oh gosh. Yeah, it’s extremely difficult and it’s totally counterintuitive like our, our programming, like biological programming, you know, fear keeps us alive, you know, in the wild of. We were still living on the planes with the Serengeti, with the lions and whatever, you know, we would be, our fear helps us to live. It gives us that rush of adrenaline that helps you run away faster. So fear is deeply programmed into the physical body, but, but that is the part where we have to look and be observant of our fear and recognize that we are not. The physical body recognize that fear is, is that that physical thing that comes with, and yes, it has served us well, but in this case it, it actually does not because as we are moving into the shift of consciousness, the, the, our ability to hold that frequency of self love and the acceptance of all that is actually opens the doorway to.

Us having whatever it is that we need. It opens the doorway up to even, yes. Absolute miracles. And that’s been some of the incredible channelings that’s come through from both the angels and I. She calls herself Ila, the mother of creation. ’cause I love it represents the first two energies of the universe, which is really cool. Will and love. I love, which I think is kind of cool. But she, um, but anyways, both of them have talked about this idea that. That, that as we move into this and, and even if you can only hold the higher vibration for a minute, for 10 minutes, say it’s only in meditation that you’re able to get into that higher vibe.

That’s great. That’s amazing. That’s 10 minutes of you creating the new reality. Even if the rest of the day you’re coping with anxiety for the 10 minutes that you are in the great wa of peace that counts. You know, so it’s every little bit counts, but I think we have to, we have to try to notice to become extremely observant of when we step into fear. And a technique that I did that worked really well for me is I started a negative thought journal. And, uh, and it’s really a hard, it’s a hard practice ’cause it really makes you see yourself. It’s not very fun, but it really works. So, so it is any single time you just for the first couple days, carry it around and then over time you won’t need to bring it with you everywhere as much because you notice how.

Quickly, you start to, you recognize that it’s almost always very similar thoughts. So during the day, negative thought comes up, you write it and just try to be very self observant. Really watch yourself, write it down. At the end of the day, look at every single negative thought you’ve had, and sit with each one and try to understand why did I feel that? Like what? Why in that moment was I feeling? Was I worried about scarcity, right? In that moment? Was I fearful for my physical safety? Like what was happening underneath it? Like, was I really physically unsafe? You know, that night when I ran around and double checked that all the doors were locked or whatever, like, was I really physically unsafe or was I, where did that fear come from?

And to sit with it, you know, even if you don’t get all the answers right away, to continue that practice each night, that, and to go through the list. And what, what I found is that the negative thoughts. That it was not 50 negative thoughts. It was like two. It was like two. And then that becomes manageable and you start to work with those thoughts and try to feel into what’s underneath it and is that rational, wow, that thought is coming from this, this, you know, like this sort of gloomy thing that like what if someone breaks in? And I remember my dad when I was. You know, young and every time I went everywhere he’d be like, someone got raped there. You know that place? You’re going to someone who looked just like you, it was the same size as you got raped there last week. You know what I mean? He would try to scare me, so I would be careful and that still is in my head somewhere.

And I had to be like, okay, take that. And that is not mine. And I, I, you know, I graciously give that back. And, um, so it’s that. I think it’s being coming. Self observant. About, uh, about, and, and by the way, he tried to scare me ’cause he loved me. You know what I mean? He was trying to keep me safe. I understand. I’m not saying that out of judgment, but, um, but it also is not in service of me trying to stay in my highest vibration. But yeah. But the, the negative thought journal is powerful. It’s, it is a, a difficult practice in the sense that it, like I said, it does make you see yourself, but you will be shocked if, if you can boil it down to two, three, even four negative thoughts. Then every time you have it, you’re like, there it is again, and it’s gone. And so it, it really settles things down amazingly well.

Guy:
Yeah. It, it defuses that thought, feeling loop. Yeah. Yes. fantastic. Yeah. You know, um, just as we kind of move into the, the end of the podcast, Anne, but, um, it’s 2026, like, it’s amazing. And what do, uh, what do you see or have, have. Through the channel in, or hear it or like, where are we, are we in the epicenter of this change right now? Is it like this year, next year, the year after? Like, there’s so many thoughts and opinions and, and different, uh, uh, ways of framing it that that’s going on at the moment. I, I find the whole thing fascinating, even the fact that we just want to know the unknown as humans as well. The moment it’s unknown, it’s scary,

Anne:
That is, that is part of the fear thing too, isn’t it? And the angels have given me a ton of messages about what’s coming and that I, the, the reason they do that is not to create fear. People worry about if we talk about it, are we creating it? My understanding is none of what they’ve shared it, it’s all baked into the plan. Like all of these events need to happen because they are guiding us into the higher state of consciousness that, that there are many structures on the earth right now that are locking us in place. In the same way that like imagine if you think about somebody say that there’s somebody out there, somebody maybe here listening in today to our conversation who is meant to be a healer or meant to be working in spirit in some way, but they have a nine to five job that they feel like they really need because it pays the bills.

And they are gonna stay at that job because what will they do if they don’t have that job? And it becomes, it becomes a prison, it becomes a cage where, and it’s preventing them from actually living the life they’re meant to be or meant to have. And then what if all of a sudden they get laid off from that job and they don’t have it anymore and they think it’s a terrible thing, right? And they’re just like, oh my gosh. And where are my angels? And nobody’s supporting me and I’ve lost this job. But then. Within a couple months, all of a sudden they’re guided. They are led to the course they’re gonna take, or where the training they’re gonna get to become a healer and they start this whole new life that’s actually on their path when that’s just a microscopic.

Example of what I’m talking about, but now apply that to the whole world, to the structures of our world that may be the banking system, maybe the, you know, government systems and all these things that we think that we actually need are in fact cages that are preventing us from living in freedom. They’re cages that are preventing us from having abundance. Are preventing us from having, uh, you know, equality in the world. So, so the messages that I’ve gotten, and there have been tons about, there’s significant events. Some of them have already come to pass. Some of them are happening right now. And yeah, I feel like we are in the thick of it, that, that some of these, uh, the angels don’t usually give me timings.

They did say that there’s a chunk of these things that are gonna be happening within the next, within the next year. So I think 2026 is, and I think right now we’re headed into a hotspot economically, but I have this book, this book has a compilation of, of all of those messages, it’s called What’s Coming Next. So if you wanna know what’s coming next, it’s all in here. And it describes it and it is kind of cool actually, there, there are, for every message, there’s a QR code that takes you back to the YouTube video where there’s the dis the the channeling as well as the breakdown. ’cause the way the angels talk.

It’s kind of the A, the mother of creation is much clearer. She talks more like a human. The angels don’t. The angels are amazing because the angels see through like this multidimensional lens, they see all things at once. So when they talk, they will frequently will choose words that mean more than one thing, that they will pick a word. And it seems like, and it will jump out at me as I’m going through the message afterwards, that the me, the word has like three or four or sometimes five meanings, and they mean all of them because they see all things at once. So breaking it down adds a ton of dimension because they are, they, it’s like they see everything as this like rotating cube and they, they are talking about all, it’s wild.

It’s absolutely wild. Mother creation doesn’t do that. She doesn’t do the multi-dimensional words the angels do. So I always do a breakdown out of after every message to try to kind of pull apart all those pieces, which is always fascinating.

Guy:
Yeah, no, thank you. I love the QR code idea, by the way. That’s Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, it went, it’s worked out really well. Really, really well. I bet. Yeah. Um, just before we wrap it up, is there anything you wanna leave the listeners to pond on? Like, we’ve covered a lot of ground today. in in a short space of time, but is there anything you wanna add to finish?

Anne:
Uh, I would say, I would say that, that the thing we’re trying to get to is trusting ourselves. Like that’s the, the biggest movement we’re trying to, to, to achieve individually, I think is this idea of trying to go into a. Um, uh, letting ourselves be ourselves and not editing ourselves, not judging ourselves, not holding ourselves back. And it’s, it is, there’s nothing harder. It is, it is so weird that the hardest thing to do is to just let ourselves be free, but freedom is the key energy that’s needed for us to. The shift of consciousness that we have to give ourselves freedom and we have to give freedom to everyone else. We have to let ourselves be fully in our truth and we have to allow others to do the same.

That freedom is what then generates the new field of the new Earth, which comes from inside of us. So that’s the number one thing. Can you allow yourself to be a little bit more free and every little bit counts. It’s not all or nothing, right? Every little bit adds up.

Guy:
Absolutely. I, I, for some reason I just had an image of Mel Gibson from Braveheart there right at the end there being Yeah, for, so,

Anne:
I love it.

Guy:
but, love it. where, can I send people, I’ll make sure there’s a link in the show notes to your, to your work, Anne. But, um,

Anne:
Thank you so much, everything.

Guy:
I.

Anne:
Everything is under my name. To keep it simple, my website is ann tucker.com. My YouTube is Ann Tucker. My, uh, my biggest healing program is actually starting very soon, soul Convergence, which is my, my main healing program. I only offer it twice a year, and it is, it is deep, deep and beautiful work of integration, and that starts February 7th. So, yeah, so love to have anybody come and join.

Guy:
Beautiful. Anne, thanks so much for coming on the show. Really appreciate our conversation today. Fantastic conversation. Thank you guy. Love it. Thanks. My lovely.