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Elizabeth:
The only reason that someone doesn’t know their purpose is because they are in the past. People don’t realize that their belief systems, which they think are very good, are actually their own money blocks. Money is a normalized worry within most people that it’s going a lot of the time and it causes us to not be present in our life with our kids, with our spouses everywhere. The less past that I actually have, the more space and the more open I can be for you and for everyone. If we lived our entire life that way, everything would be different.

Guy:
Guy here. Welcome to my Let It In podcast, and my beautiful guest today is Elizabeth Ralph, and I wanted to invite her onto the show to actually have a conversation around money and investing. But from a spiritual concept, I feel that this is a topic I wanted to talk about. I wanna see how you guys, what you guys think of it, how you respond to it. If it’s a topic that, uh, you want me to delve into more. On my YouTube channel. I’m more than happy to do so in the future. But wanted to explore it. Wanted to speak about it because you know, certainly in my upbringing in the Valleys of Wales, I certainly was brought up in a very scarcity mindset. Money is a very triggering topic and it’s very easy to have a lot of beliefs and emotional charge.

Around money. So I wanted to bring in who better than the spiritual investor, Elizabeth Ralph, to have a conversation today about this topic in itself related to this. So please let me know what you think in the comments below. Of course, let me know where you are in the world as well. It’s always wonderful to connect. There are a couple of links if you wanna check out more of Elizabeth’s work, some partner links. She’s about to be running a 12 week mastermind program, I believe very shortly. She also has a monthly club, which you can invest a small amount in every month and get education around spiritual investing from that way as well.

So there’s links below if you wanna find out more of that. And of course, if you wanna meet me in person, come and join us. Our next five day Mastering Mystic retreat is in. Bali 2026 at the end of the June. So if you really wanna dive deep with a beautiful bunch of souls and create a community of people into this work that we teach connecting to spirit, then come and join us Bali. Anyway, links below for that as well. Most. So for me, enjoy this one. Uh, lemme know your thoughts.

Guy:
Elizabeth, welcome to the

Elizabeth:
Really. Thank you. Thank you. This has been so this, this can be great as I said.

Guy:
1000%. I’m, I’m really excited to talk about this topic. And

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
my first question, though, which I love asking everyone, is that if we were at an intimate dinner party and you talking to a complete stranger and they didn’t know you, they asked you what you do for a living these days, how would you respond?

Elizabeth:
I. I listen.

Guy:
Huh.

Elizabeth:
’cause I think that’s really, uh, I think that’s what a lot of what I do, and I think that’s a lot of what people are starting to do out there is create space for others. Because really what I’m doing, uh, is I’m, and hopefully I’m doing this on an ongoing upward basis, is allowing people to be seen and. People don’t feel seen unless they feel heard. And so this is also a great question ’cause I just got out of, um, running a call for my mastermind, which is more of the intimate group. And um, this actually came up in there about people who I think we’re starting to notice when people actually can hold space, you know?

And listening is a function of that and how it’s so much easier to show up as who you are and. To be who you are when people hold that space and to listen. So I would say, I would probably say I do that even though my, of course the standard 3D answer would be, I teach people about money and investing. But I think, I think the money and investing just kind of gets like shoved in the sides.

Guy:
of it. Yeah. When it comes to listening like that, as soon as you said that, that really resonates. Do you think that’s the challenge that we have as a society, as

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
that we’re, we’re just so in our heads and. Kind of this linear life that we live in, and the, there’s always something to reach, something to do, some kind of

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
even function, know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, reach the weekend, and then all of a sudden we can breathe out and, and spend time. It’s like, it’s almost denying us of this ability just to drop and be present in our life at all.

Elizabeth:
Yeah. Yeah, it is. And I think, uh, people’s ability to listen is, is directly related to their level of scarcity and fear and survival, um, which all ties back to comparison and attachment. And so if you’re, if you’re listening to someone. And then you’ve got kind of rolling in the background. Well, what you’re thinking about what they’re saying and you’re judging it, or you’re saying, is that relevant to me? Or you’re waiting for them to stop talking so that you can talk or whatever. I just think that we are energetically becoming so much more attuned that, um. We feel that and then that causes us to step back and not be who we are. Even though I don’t know that we realize where we’re not really being who we are ’cause we’re not speaking.

But I think that in the future, the way that we’re gonna live is to actually be cognizant of when we are energetically not being who we are. And when you start to really talk about money. And magnetism with money, that’s a big thing. You can feel someone’s energy in a room. You can feel their emotions and money traverses all along that.

Guy:
Money is such a, is such a triggering topic as well for for many people. There’s,

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
there’s an emotional tie to it, know, I mean, the constant narrative here in Australia is through the media and through just conversations in general is about how the government, is this, the, the taxation laws are off the charts. Is everything gonna collapse in the next 12 to 24 months?

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
it’s just. And it’s, it feels like a, um, it wants to suck you in and then be part of this ecosystem that’s full of fear and debilitating. mean, that, that’s what it kind of feels like from just observation right now, you know,

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
that space. So I, I’m, I’m feeling that by, by listening, it’s given us an opportunity to step outside that and actually try and navigate to what’s actually true and what’s just a narrative.

Elizabeth:
Yeah, well when we listen, we also get the ability to observe. And so, you know, you mentioned, uh, Australia, like it’s definitely been that, and it’s also been. You know, how many years have I heard that the real estate market is crazy in Australia, yet it has continued to go up and nobody thought it was crazy last year, but they think it’s crazy this year. But if you ask them last year, it was crazy last year and it was crazy the year before and it was crazy. You know what I’m saying? Like, and it’s, it’s trained fear

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
and it’s everywhere. It’s not just over there. I mean, it’s, it’s over here too, like people are saying, you know, the, um, stock market over here. There’s really not a bad area to invest. I mean, if you look at all the assets, if you look at, you know, the US stock market, if you look at crypto, you could, you could, I mean, you could still make money in bonds. I mean, you can, you can make money in all the areas, land real estate. I mean, it’s good to great, but yet if you ask someone about it, especially someone who hasn’t invested, they’re gonna have something, um, sort of sacrificial to say about it.

Guy:
I don’t doubt it. I don’t doubt it. How, how does, what’s your journey then? How did, how did you become, what attracted me to you? I, I heard you on a, a podcast months ago. Like I said, I just stumbled across it and what caught my eye was a spiritual investor, and I was like, oh, I’ve not. I’ve not seen that because I’ve had mentors in the stock market. I’ve had mentors in real estate, and it’s all

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
um, mechanistic in some ways, systemized and, uh, detached emotionally completely. You just kind of follow the process

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
you know, which I do to a degree. But then there’s you talking about a very different vantage point as well, which just resonated completely obviously off the bat from

Elizabeth:
Hmm.

Guy:
I’m doing. So did, so how would you define the spiritual investor? Or even how did you end up

Elizabeth:
I.

Guy:
place? Like what was your background? Have you always had. Uh, lent into spirituality as part of your life and your journey.

Elizabeth:
Yeah, well, uh, the answer’s kind of one and the same, like, how would I define it? And then how did I get to it? Um, I was a financial trader for over a decade, and so I traded energy, electricity, oil, natural gas, and so I worked on the trading floor and I, I remember, you know, like partway through my career, I decided that I just, it was great, but I didn’t want to be there all the time. I, I didn’t want to be spending 12 hours a day there because I knew that there was, there was a certain cost to it, um, you know, uh, as far as like my authentic self type of thing, right? And so I decided to buy my way out of it. So. I decided to buy, start buying real estate. I was in San Diego at the time, real estate and then investing in the market.

And, uh, I ended up doing, I, I had a 10 year plan. I did it in eight years. And so, um, once I left, I wasn’t sure what I was going to do, but before I left. Um, this, um, guy from India had joined the trading floor and he was like not the normal, uh, human that would’ve joined the trading floor. And I remember thinking the day they hired him, I’m like, wow, he’s so different. And so he has all these colorful statues and everything on his, on his desk, and. He and I became really good friends. We had the same sense of humor. And so he basically, you know, he spent, uh, years, uh, teaching me, um, the Hindu traditions and, you know, all of the spiritual aspects of it and bringing me books back from India and having me read them and helping me interpret them and, ’cause he grew up in an ashram, so this was a total accident.

It wasn’t even like, and it, like, I went out and. Just like seek this. This definitely found me, but what it was is it was such a point of relief during my day ’cause he and I would talk on message all you know, a lot during the day. It was a point of relief from the typical spreadsheet, you know, living in a spreadsheet type of job. Um, and then when I left, I wasn’t sure what I was gonna do, which I’m so glad. I wasn’t sure what I was gonna do. Um, because then someone asked me at a kid’s birthday party, they said, can you help me with my money? And I said, no, I don’t do that. And by the end of the birthday party she had talked me into helping her with her money.

So I agreed to eight sessions. These were in person. And I remember I drove to her house the first time and I’m like, what the hell am I gonna teach these people? You know? I know money, but I’ve never taught it or anything. And I remember, um. I walk up to the door at her house and it was this gray door and I got ready to knock on it and I don’t know, something switched in me and I’m like, if I’m gonna do this, I’m gonna teach it my way. And from that moment forward I that, that’s really, I didn’t know it, but that’s when the spiritual investor was born because she opened the door and I said, we’re gonna start this with a meditation. And it was just onwards and upwards from there. And six months later, she sent me, um, uh, I got an envelope in the mail with, um, it was, it was really thick, it had a lot of photos in it.

And she had purchased a home, a cabin, really nice cabin, and her children would be able to go there. And anyway, she’s like, you changed my life. So I said, okay, universe, this is what I’m doing. And I created a business and, uh, built it along the way. You know, the first couple of years I struggled a bit because, um. I, uh, had always, you know, made money in the corporate world. And then I’m like, what, what is this? What is this? Like an online business? And, you know, then you put a team together and all that. And so I finally figured it out though. And once I did, once I hit it on the head, uh, I never went back. Uh, once I, it, it was like, it was almost like it, an embodiment, like a rhythm that I got into.

And once I hit that point, within three weeks, my business, 10 xd. And then it’s just been ever since, ever since. We just, I just met with my team, um, this week actually, and it’s been our biggest year ever. Every year has gotten bigger, and this is our biggest year ever, surprisingly. ’cause this was a challenging year for myself and for a lot of people out there. So I was, I was even a little surprised by that. But I think if you allow money to expand with you, ’cause we’re all getting more powerful, if we allow money to come with us, then it’s always going to be that way. It’s, your money is always gonna keep getting bigger and bigger.

Guy:
What did you learn those eight sessions? Like the, the kind of what you see, it must be like a common trait. Like we’re we’re pretty predictable as human beings in some ways, in terms of

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
what we do. Like what was the feedback that you kind of say, aha, that’s that’s where we’re going wrong, or That’s where the, The guidance or help is needed.

Elizabeth:
Um, I learned that, uh, it’s not, it’s not as cookie cutter as the financial industry would like to present it. I think that the financial industry, uh, we have products that people can sort of join into, whether it’s ETFs or, you know, you get like all types of funds that you can go into and, um. What I learned through that and, and have learned since is that people’s situation is different. People’s priorities are different, and if you don’t. Energetically align what your priorities are and your values are to money, you’re not gonna have that curiosity. You’re not gonna have that connection to it, meaning you’re not gonna feel drawn into wanting to participate and wanting to de to, you know, even log into your accounts.

You’re not gonna want to. So if you don’t bring it in, in, in a creative way. And I think that that’s something that the, that the industry, it’s not the industry’s fault. It’s that it doesn’t, hasn’t come up to speed. And so I think, you know, definitely inside the spiritual investor, the programs are all about combining creativity with money and not making yourself wrong. It doesn’t matter what happened before. Uh, it doesn’t matter how much you have, uh, you can always expand money. I mean, it’s like the art of expanding money and moving towards that is way more important than counting money.

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned as well as you were talking, uh uh, I, hopefully I framed the question right, but it got my curiosity as well about this. We are becoming more powerful, uh. Do you think we are in a unique time on the planet right now, that we are actually

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
our true potential? Like what’s who we really are and what’s possible?

Elizabeth:
I do. I do. And I think that if you, um, it’s easy to see things when you reflect back on them. Um, and I think if we look at, um, even the conversations that are now being had by. Um, people in their, you know, early twenties. Um, if you look at the difference in the level and the evolvement of a conversation by someone who’s 22 years old today versus someone who is 22 years old when I was 22 years old, it’s so different. Um, I think also, I think that people, um, have a different level of intelligence. I think that, um, we are coming into a space where. We’re just not willing to do the things that we were before. We’re not willing to do the nine to five jobs as much. We’re not willing to just grin and smile and just take whatever someone wants to tell us to do anymore.

Like we’re not those we’re, we’re waking up from this stand in line type of conditioning. That we were taught and it’s actually becoming our most important thing. You know, even above money, it’s like people are like, I, I’m just not gonna do that. And so if you want to learn to expand money, you have to learn how to expand money doing something that you already like doing, or else you’re just gonna be in the trading money for time game, which nobody wants to be in.

Guy:
Yeah, I was gonna say ’cause like quite often. You see about, there’s a lot of noise online about attracting money manifestation, and welcome it in. But it, it always feels like there’s, um, an aspect that is not incorporated into just a way of being in, in, in general. Like, it, it’s almost like money’s over here. I’ll make it and I’ll do it and I’ll attract it in, but over here I’ll be doing something else. It’s almost like they, they, they feel. Segmented separate.

Elizabeth:
Yep.

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
Yep. They’re separate. Yeah, you’re exactly right. And, and that, uh. That is changing with people who are um, who are sort of in, I would say, operating in more of the new pun money paradigm. So we have the old money paradigm, which is all about the conditioning, and it also is based on linear time. We have the new Money paradigm, which is about, uh, inviting money in. So one is getting money and the other is inviting money in. And instead of actually going out and making money, what you’re doing is you’re creating the space and money is stepping in, which then feels effortless. It doesn’t feel like you’re doing out anything outside of you that you don’t want to do.

And once you figure that out, it’s kind of like getting in your stride when you’re running. Then you recognize it and then you can, you can continue to repeat that pattern over and over again.

Guy:
Hmm. One, one thing I, when, when you, when you say and all that and like breaking that pattern. It. Yeah. I’ve heard you say the, the words break the structure, I believe. Like the,

Elizabeth:
Breaking the structure, uhhuh.

Guy:
’cause there’s an element and I, and I’m guilty of it as well. Like I can see myself kind of going into grooves, these ruts of

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
patterns and then, and then you get so blinded by. That way of

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
you don’t actually step back go,

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
whoa, whoa, whoa. Like what? Like what are we looking at? What are we actually freaking doing here in the first place? know, and,

Elizabeth: Yeah.

Guy:
coming into different vantage points, like how do, how do you teach that? How do we do that? How do we start to really, not get so borrowed in, into, I guess, these ways of thinking of how we. We, we’ve been conditioned to do it all our lives.

Elizabeth:
Well, um, we really don’t know who we are until we know who we aren’t and that we do that by looking back on ourselves. So, for example, there are things that everyone can think of. Of like a certain way of being. They used to be maybe 20 years ago, and they’re like, I can’t be that guy anymore. I just can’t. I’m just not that guy anymore. Right? We have that. And so you don’t have to worry about not doing that pattern because it’s just not who you are. You’ve moved, you’ve moved. It’s almost like you’ve jumped timelines or something. Um, so when we’re able to do that with money. Um, then we will break those patterns.

Now you can do that in sort of a micro environment with breaking the structure. Um, what it requires is you to be okay, uh, abandoning a lot of the things that you’ve been holding really sacred that you think are keeping you safe. Um, you know, if someone likes to save money. And they feel like, okay, I have to save a certain amount of money. I have to have, like, some people have a certain amount they need in the account that’s gonna make them feel comfortable. And if it goes below that, then oh my God, you know, the, the, the whole house is on fire. If it goes above that too much, then they don’t know what to do either. And so they have a tendency to maybe let that go or spend that or whatever.

And so people aren’t really seeing that they’re actually creating their own bandwidth because they’re energetically simply just uncomfortable. And so in order to break the structure, it doesn’t really matter as much what you do. It doesn’t really matter about the habit. We’re kind of wasting our energy when we go too deep on the specifics of the habit. What’s important is that you go outside of that. You break that structure and you go completely outside of that. So you let that account go way down, or you have eight times the money in there and you do nothing, right? Like you’re trying to actually not be who you are more so than anything.

Guy:
Yeah. Okay.

Elizabeth:
You’ll see big money changes with that.

Guy:
No, it’s fascinating. That’s definitely something I can work on as well, that’s for sure. You know, I remember I, but I also remember reading, um, a, a book a while back. I can’t remember the name of it, but on the opening page, I think it was to do with the business or something, but and it really resonated with me at the time. It was like it didn’t really matter how much you money you were, and it’s what you’re doing with it that counts. And it kind of

Elizabeth:
Hmm.

Guy:
true to me, and I was wondering if you have any, what are your thoughts on that? Because that’s something I’ve noticed in my journey that as I’ve started to, uh, break structures in my own way, uh, you know, I I, I managed to get a, a supplement company off the ground before selling it and things, but there was so much naivety in all that, and actually knowing how to hold it, it was almost like my nervous system doesn’t know this

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
that makes sense. And then I, I started making decisions that weren’t actually in alignment, I felt outta my depth as it was happening.

Elizabeth:
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And a lot of people don’t want to do this stuff when they’re in a situation like that, right? And so wealth is really all about positioning. Um, people step into wealth because they’re there, they’re front of the line when the opportunity opens up, right? I mean, you see this like, if Oprah knocks on your door and you don’t have the book written, well, you don’t have the book written, and she’s gonna go knock on somebody else’s door, right? So everything is positioning. So what you’re, what you just said is, you know, you were in it. But you energetically couldn’t take it. So what? What Really, when I’m talking about the new paradigm and I’m talking about you create the space and then you invite the money in, you are working on things now. So that when the opportunities come in, you, you know what to do more so than you are about, let me just pick the latest and greatest idea.

’cause that’s where people get hung up. They’re like, I don’t know what I wanna do with my life. I don’t know about this idea. I’m not gonna make money with this, blah, blah, blah, blah. That’s so old. That’s so 3D. Just like it’s a waste of time. You have to create the space based on you and be willing to call bullshit on yourself. The way you’ve been operating is gonna bring you exactly the same amount of money if you keep operating that way. That’s it. So you have to abandon who you are, especially the areas that make you feel safe and comfortable. Abandon it completely. Create from that space of being someone that you don’t even know, to become someone that you know and you will look back on it and go.

How could I even have been that person who didn’t Just, it feels normal to bring in $200,000 a month. Like you, you’re setting your own normal, and I think people just, people aren’t responsible for it.

Guy:
I love that. I got goosebumps when you said that. Then it’s like, that’s so true. And the thing is as well then by doing that, it feels like we’re diffusing this chase for something and it is about the, the, the being, the in the here and now. So we kind of letting go of that because. Again, it’s, it’s very easy to be coming up and into reaching something in the future. Like it’s taken me out of the present moment. It’s taken me out of that, that listening space, that being space, actually

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
it’s almost like I’m then starting to push up against something create a resistance.

Elizabeth:
Yeah. ’cause there’s no power in a, in a future moment, there’s only What aspect of that future moment are you creating Now? That’s all we have.

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah. What, what do you to, to talking about? I wanna just move slightly into, um. There’s a few things that happened there. There’s a common thing around tall poppy syndrome especially

Elizabeth:
Yes. Mm-hmm.

Guy:
know the moment, the moment you start to stick your head out a bit. Um, it’s, I I, you get, you get attacked or chopped down.

Elizabeth:
Yeah. You get it chopped off.

Guy:
Yeah, and I, and I’m kind of guilty of this in some ways. Not the chopping, but in, in terms of wanting fit in or, or actually there’s an element of wanting everyone to, to, to like you or not upset the, the apple cart in any way. ’cause you’re pushing against, up against other people’s belief systems and things like that. You know,

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
in, in our industry, um, it. know, the, the spiritual industry. I guess if, if that’s such a thing, I don’t even know. But there, there seems to be this perception around, um, and a lot of these things should be free and that it’s God’s work and, and that it’s, it’s coming in, but no, um, connection to actually value and, and. What that person has even been going through to be, be able to be even, to have the ability to be able to pass on wisdom to help others as well. And that, feels like quite often, and this might be my just interpretation of it, that in that there is a, there is a belief, know, if you charge too much for this or if you’re doing this too, too much or re then, then you get ostracized for it. Like

Elizabeth:
Uh huh.

Guy:
you know what I mean?

Elizabeth:
Yeah. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Well, I think that if we look at, uh, the, uh, non relatability of some of these concepts, I think that it will actually just shine the, the light on it, which it’s all an illusion, right? Because something being free doesn’t mean value. In fact, something free to some people means no value. Something being like a hundred thousand dollars could mean like, oh my gosh, that’s so expensive for one person and for the next person that’s in their energetic bandwidth that they’re comfortable with. They’re not gonna work with a coach or whoever, a teacher, unless it’s a hundred thousand dollars and everybody is different.

So there’s no relationship between the value of something and the amount that you charge. There’s no relationship to it. That is, that is truth. The relationship is created by the individual who’s perceiving it. And so since there are so many individuals perceiving, then the only time something like the Poppy Syndrome, uh, works is if the, um, perception is then becomes an agreement. So every time we say, okay, there’s the the tall poppy syndrome, then there’s a certain level of we’re trying to disprove it, but in disproving it, we’re also agreeing with it that it even exists. The best thing to do about something like that would be to go back to the fact that. All of us. It’s, it’s a me versus me game and how, how much power we are willing to call in and how open and available we are in terms of giving value to the world.

It determines our magnetism and our ma magnetism determines every type of abundance that comes to us and our ability to receive chooses if it’s money, if it’s love, if it is food, uh, if it is, uh, what type of house we are literally our own receiving systems, not realizing that it’s more about our filter than it is these terms out there. Which are not even really related until we agree with the perception that they are related.

Guy:
Hmm. So it ultimately, it still comes back to. the outer world being a reflection of our own inner world and we’re choosing to focus on how we feeling internally through and

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
going through our lens of life. So it’s like if I’m, if I’m, there must be some area of me that’s feeling that, hence why I am focusing on, on that per se, and perpetuating the, the energy connection to it.

Elizabeth:
Yes, exactly. And everybody does it to a, to a certain degree. ’cause that’s part of our journey is we’re letting go of all that stuff. And so for example, like, um, the first session of the Mastermind, so the mastermind’s 12 week, the first session, when they come in, uh, this used to be a surprise, maybe it won’t be anymore than I’ve said this, but they come in and, and they want to share about their story. They want to tell about their story. Where did they come from? How did they get here? Um, who are they? What do they do for a living? All this stuff, right? I’m like, I don’t care about your story. Like that’s not you. Like what we do is we go out in life, we walk into a room and we tell everybody our story.

’cause we need them to know our story. And then we spend all this time trying to get them to see us in the new way that we want them to see us. And it is an energetic total mismatch. So for me, I’m like, somebody asked me my story, that’s fine. I’ll tell you my story, but it’s not really part of me. It’s like. The less past that I actually have, the more space and the more open I can be for. You and for everyone, because that’s my entire, I only, I’m only doing one thing. I am managing my, managing my energy and operating in a way that I am more and more open and available to be in service to others. That’s it.

Everything that I do rolls up to that. Whether it’s working out, whether it’s the way that I eat, whether it’s traveling, whatever, or it’s teaching the classes, whatever it is, and it makes my life so simple. You know? I don’t have to have all these individual things I’m focused on.

Guy:
So, but we’re so addicted to our stories. Uh,

Elizabeth:
I know we’re addicted to our stories. I know. Exactly. Yeah. And I still catch myself with things that are very subtle that I’m like, oh, I, I need someone to understand this about me. Right. Like, why it’s so crazy. What does that do for us? Nothing. It takes up space.

Guy:
It is crazy, isn’t it?

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
happens if somebody’s story is, I’m not good with money? Uh.

Elizabeth:
Oh, well, that’s not serving them. So I’d say definitely get rid of that one, you know? Um, that’s an, that’s a good one though, because a lot of people have that, you know, especially, you know.

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Elizabeth:
A lot of people have it. Um, I mean, I’ve had thousands of people go through the spiritual investor, and I’d say that’s that I don’t know what to do and I’m not good at with money. Um, probably the, the, the two bigger ones. So here’s a, here’s an example that I’ve given. Let me see how this, uh, lands with you. So someone says, I’m not good with money. Okay? So imagine that you are in a situation where, um, I say to you, um. Guy, here’s, here’s $50,000. All these people that are standing behind you, I need you to get them to safety.

So it’s a dangerous situation. I need you to take this $50,000 and I need you to get all of these people to safety. You’re, you’re not, you’re not bad with money anymore. That identity doesn’t exist in you anymore. You are just you in that moment and you are in action. You are only who you truly are because you are going to get these children and families and all these people to safety. I guarantee you’re gonna do it.

Guy:
Hmm.

Elizabeth:
And that is how, if we lived our entire life that way, everything would be different.

Guy:
You’d find a way

Elizabeth:
Well, we would be, we would allow ourselves, our true selves to come up and actually show up because you would be who you truly are in that moment.

Guy:
What about then what I see a

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
of in through our events and retreats, I mean to give you an idea, but probably. Been in front of about five, like 5,000 people come through in the last three years, right? And one of the most common themes that come are people in midlife, 40 to 50 years old.

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
they’ve been in a career. The jack of it, they hate

Elizabeth:
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Guy:
Maybe the kids are left home, uh, they’re going through a divorce.

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
some, there’s pressure, right? There’s, they’re just being slowly squeezed

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
elements I don’t know my purpose, I don’t know what to do, and I’m stuck, you know? And the fear of letting go of that, career, that identity and step, you know, stepping in and, you know, letting go of the shore to. Move into something they don’t even know what they’re gonna do,

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
is terrifying.

Elizabeth:
Yeah, the, the only reason, this is my thought on it. The only reason that someone doesn’t know their purpose is because they are in the past. Because everybody knows what they want. We are desiring beings. We came here on earth, plopped here on earth to go, I want the bottle, I want the toy, I want the blah, blah, blah. Right? Like, we, we are, we. That’s our natural way of being. We’re, that’s how we expand into our greater consciousness is through desiring something and then creating it so everybody knows that it’s covered up by their, their entanglement with the past. And so. I have yet to find anyone who doesn’t know how to find their purpose once they drop the past.

Um, I take people through a process of dropping the past. Sometimes it’s, it’s one session. Sometimes it’s, it’s more, but we’ve kind of talked about it a little bit here, so maybe people are al are, are also picking up ways to do it here, which is, it’s almost like the past becomes like a black, like, like, like, um. You cover it up, it’s completely black. Who would you be if someone just literally dropped you here on Earth right now and then you just got up and looked around in a, in a puff of dirt and someone said to you. What would you like to do? Right. You can get to, it’s a state of being, I guess is what I’m trying to say.

It’s not that there’s anything else to figure out. It’s the, there is a state of being available to those people where that answer lies and it is a thousand percent within them

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
with nothing more that they, no more knowledge that needs to go in.

Guy:
Yeah. No, that makes sense. There’s a, there’s a que question coming in, and I completely blanked it, but when we are leaning into this, oh, that’s right. Is that, sorry, it’s really early here in my morning and my, my, my brain’s just kicking

Elizabeth:
That’s okay.

Guy:
But, um, um, the, the, the difference between surrender and allowing to actually then create an action and vehicles for, for investing and finances to, to grow. I, I, like, for me, I’m feeling like there’s always a dance between, well, when, when’s the doing bit?

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
the being bit

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
you know, and, and just. Or holding that space in the now as opposed to, ’cause you know, like honestly when you were saying spreadsheets earlier, I get shivers. Like my, my relationship with spreadsheets

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
shocking and it’s been something I’ve had to develop, especially now moving from into my second company. Whereas like I know all my flows and weaknesses in terms of the, the things I absolutely messed up the first time around.

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
I’ve, I’ve. Gotta somehow break a structure and, and, and

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
or get better advice. But at the same time, it still creates these responses in moving out of that to trying to action something, but to then that’s

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
that, that, that dance and that friction amongst all

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
Yeah. No, this is really great. So, um, well, let’s just use you as an example. So what are, what are some of the things that you like, love to do throughout the week? I mean, you love this, you have this podcast. I mean, what, what else do you do?

Guy:
Uh, what I’d love, what I love to do, there’s, got two children,

Elizabeth:
Uhhuh.

Guy:
and being present with them is something that I love to do, and. That’s even a dance to, to do that. If I and I, here’s an excuse, if I had more time Right. I, I can even say, hear it coming out my, my mouth. I

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
love to be in the ocean. I love to be in na, love to be in nature. We we’re, we’re near here. love to go to the, I love lifting weights. clear myself, I’m from the health industry, so those things, nuances even around food and, uh, I don’t wanna use the hood biohacking, but I, I love all that stuff, right? You know, a bunch of mates and a nice bath and a sauna

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
right. And fabulous. Like, you know, this, this is group.

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
Just bringing, being in that environment, facilitating. I love facilitating, like I, I’d absolutely light up on it and, and seeing the impact, what we teach has on somebody’s life, you know, when they, when they shift some trauma or they energetically move. Incredible. So all those things. All those

Elizabeth:
That’s amazing. So you, you love the flow of energy, you love the expansion of everything, right? I mean the, all those things you described. Um, so. Uh, what if you were to love the expansion of money? What if that was part of one of the things that you described? Like, I love expanding money. I love when I am in nature and sometimes I have, you know, a few stocks that I have thought about. Uh, and then have, you know, even come into my world a little bit and I love just sitting down in nature and doing a meditation or breathing, and I love logging in and just investing during that high vibe time. That’s one of the things I really enjoy. I love, uh, not even looking at my investing account and then getting this surprise, you know.

Once every month or something, and I, and I sit down with a cup of coffee and I go in and I’m like, wow, look at the fact that I own some of the largest companies in the world. Look at the fact that they are working for me. Like, what? What if you did something like that?

Guy:
Yeah, we’ve, and I would, I love it that that truly resonates. ’cause I’m laughing because it’s like, I’ve got stocks at the moment. I’ve, I bought some. the other weekend, SoFi and, and you know, my habit though is to check it once a day. It’s gone up. It’s gone down. I’ll write some covered

Elizabeth:
Oh.

Guy:
No, no. I’ll write some covered calls in it and things like that. That’s what I mean, like

Elizabeth:
Yeah. Uh, sorry, I had to let the cat out. Um, yeah. Uh, yeah, no, that, that’s, what were you gonna say though? This is perfect.

Guy:
No. No, but that’s the thing I, I’ll, I’ll check it, but I, I, what I do practice is, is when, when, with it, not having an emotional charge to it. Like, I’m, like, I’ve noticed like no matter what things are doing, I’m much better at just, oh, okay. That’s what it’s at. You know, and not like, like to the races and cheering on a horse or anything like that. Like it’s, it’s not like that.

Elizabeth:
Okay. So for you, um, uh, I’ll give you, I’ll give you a suggestion and you can take it or leave it, but, um, I’ve seen this, this work well, uh, is buy stocks with the intention that it’s just like when you go out and you go camping and you build a fire. So you don’t sit there and just poke the fire, poke the fire, poke the fire. Like you might mess around with it a little bit, but really your job is to get off your ass and go get more wood and keep the fire going, right? So if you looked at your investing account as your job is to go out and get more wood, you go out and do your thing, and then you put more money in there, that’s your job.

And to go out there and actually keep adding valuable investments and valuable stocks, and then don’t look at it. Until you could do a month, you could do two months. You know, maybe start with a month, uh, and see how you feel. That will be different for you.

Guy:
I will do that. I’ll let you know.

Elizabeth:
Okay. Good. Good,

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
good. Okay.

Guy:
Yeah,

Elizabeth:
Add as much as you add as much as you can. Keep it going and keep it going.

Guy:
see

Elizabeth:
Do it in When you’re in a high vibe environment, I would really love to see it become a part of your expansiveness. I would love to see expanding money, have the same energy with you as health. Lifting weights. See, I could, I can look at you and tell you that you, that you work out, right? That’s part of who you are. People who have money and they have lots and lots of, like, you can feel billionaires in the room, right? Like it’s a vibe. So how can you get that though if you’re not gonna allow money in, if you’re not gonna allow it to be part of your most important energetic space?

Guy:
totally. with that then, and I can, I can keep using myself an example. ’cause I, I have no doubt 99% of people are gonna listen to this, since I’ve had children as well. There’s an element of, oh, know, I, I was, I was pretty reckless when I was when it was just me. I didn’t, you know, like I would take bigger risks and do then from that aspect. You know, family, and my family is my nucleus. It’s just like it. I, I love it. I love being a family man and a dad and, and everything and, and a around that. Then it’s easy to, uh, to fall into.

Restrictions or even guilt around certain aspects of that expansion or much you spend or allow to go to flow through to make sure that, you know, the needs are met at the same time without uh, careless in, in some ways. Or and as I’m speaking it, I can feel the restrictions in that, around it, you know, so. It’s, it’s like able to hold that resonance and but I guess without the, the fear that it brings, that, that, that it can bring in because it’s affecting other people’s lives. If, if you get it wrong per se, you

Elizabeth:
Mm. This is, yeah. This is so good. Thank you for asking this. ’cause you’re right. I’m sure a lot of people are wondering this. Um, so it’s great that you see this and it’s great that you feel this and you, and you know this. Um, so if you actually lean into your, the constraints that you feel. And you are willing to shift it into a greater responsibility based on the fact that you said one of the most important things for you is to be present with your children.

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
So money is a normalized worry within most people that they don’t even, it’s, it’s going a lot of the time. Right. And it, it causes us to not be present in our life with our kids, with our spouses everywhere. Right. If you were to see, um. The constraints as how can I step into a greater responsibility so that I create a money world where I do not have any of these constraints? What would I need to do to do that? And you do it with the power and incentive behind you, not of the amount. ’cause most people aren’t driven by money. Use the power of that, put that energy behind it, that that will allow me to be more present with my children. You will be shocked at how quickly things will turn around with you because that is when you’ll be completely in alignment with money, without making it about your conditioned old money beliefs.

Guy:
Yeah, no, that resonates. It’s funny ’cause I’ve, I’ve, it is strange. I’ve never been driven by money,

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
But

Elizabeth:
A lot of people aren’t.

Guy:
a big part of the world. Like, I’ve always been driven of service and actually impacting somebody else’s life. Like, you know, whe when I, when I get a hug from a stranger because it’s affected their life in some way. Like, there,

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
nothing more beautiful. Like, when they, they genuinely heartfelt, grateful, you know, in that moment it’s like. Wow. That’s, that’s, that’s, that’s priceless. You know? And like those

Elizabeth:
Yep.

Guy:
that you have with your family, it’s the moments Right. That we live for, you know? And I think,

Elizabeth:
Yes.

Guy:
a, there’s a reality to it that we need money. But then there’s a, there’s a, oh, please, you’re gonna say something.

Elizabeth:
Well, you had mentioned at the beginning about, you know, spiritual people and not, and think talking about giving things away for free. So we’ve come to a full circle with this because. You don’t have to be incentivized with money to be wealthy. Those two things are not related. People think they are, but they’re not. They’re actually not. That’s the whole business that I do is shifting wealth into the hands of those that are, that are conscious. You do not have to love money to be wealthy. You have to be in line with who you are, and you have to look at your ability to receive money because it’s not, that money’s not there for you, it’s that you are saying no energetically, and you don’t realize that you’re doing it.

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah. That resonates for sure. What was my trail of thought? There was, there was something on the back. What was I saying just before that? Because I was gonna ask you. One more question. I can’t remember what it was.

Elizabeth:
I am sorry. I interrupted you too.

Guy:
all right. That’s all right. It’s, it is, it’s, is what it is, but, well, we got, we we five to seven. Anyway, I’m, I’m respectful of your time as well, but what would be, uh, a simple practice then for people to start to become aware of Where there suggestions before we wrap this up that they can start to lean into? clues start pointing them in the right direction to where they might be sabotaging themselves.

Elizabeth:
So when you said be aware of it, you mean aware of their own kind of the things that you just brought up? Kind of like where they are,

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
own. Yeah. Um, I think that that’s pretty easy for people to see. I think that people are so familiar with their own fears and conditionings around money. Um, I think that people don’t realize that their belief systems, which they think are a lot of times very good, um, are actually their own money blocks. The things that we think are, are keeping us safe. It could be something that, you know, my dad did it that way, or this has always worked for me, or this is who I am. Those things are actually the ones that are killing us because we’re actually putting more of our energy into upholding the version of us that we already are.

Then we are with allowing that energy to be free and in discovery with how money is gonna come to us in a completely new way. People are so incredibly locked up with that. Um, what other question comes up from there after saying that? I,

Guy:
massive, that we’ve put so much energy into who we are than, than,

Elizabeth:
yeah.

Guy:
than actually not what we’re allowing in. Totally, totally. Yeah. it’s, it’s amazing. I guess. I guess it comes down to, at the end of the day, being willing to be open to. To try something new and to, like you say, come back to actually starting to get a little bit uncomfortable. ’cause surely you must see it all the time, that once we start breaking structures, the body and the nervous system’s gonna start freaking out a bit saying, oh, this is, this is an unknown, this alert, alert, this is not right. What’s going on? You know? And, and then, and then we, we, that therein lies the resistance and the conflict with one’s with oneself. To allow

Elizabeth:
Yes.

Guy:
to move forward, you know what I’m

Elizabeth:
Yes,

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
absolutely. Uh, you know, it is funny that we’re talking about this now ’cause I just put the students in the Mastermind through, um, a six day, uh, what, what they would’ve considered a process of hell, really. But now then they’re just like overjoyed. Uh, when I asked them to do this one assignment, um, I saw them like shifting and I told them, I was like, you’re not gonna like this. And I saw them getting a bit shifty and like getting their resistance. We spent time, you know, working through all of it. Anyways, long story short, and some of them are actually in Australia, it’s funny, uh, is now on the other side of it, oh my God. Who they are, who they are reporting themselves to be now what they are doing, like this, this one woman who’s in Adelaide, she, um, she wants to speak in front of people and she said, well, I, I know a lot of people in town, so.

I just said, you only have six days to do it. And she organized this whole event and she had people come to her home and she didn’t wanna do it for free. So what she did is she had them bring, uh, things for it and to donate money. Well, then at the end of it, she not only like. Done her speaking thing, but who she was when she carried the bag of groceries and the money into her local charity and was observing herself on the other side of that and seeing that she had for years been putting that off. It was, she was experiencing herself in the moment, being on the other side of that. Once you do that, that’s where your answers are.

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah.

Elizabeth:
That’s what we’re afraid of.

Guy:
Yeah, we’re fascinating creatures, aren’t we?

Elizabeth:
Yes, I know. We’re crazy. We’re such, we’re, we’re like walking. Um, hypocrites. I’m always looking at myself. I’m like, oh yeah, that’s, yeah. That’s funny, Elizabeth. Yeah.

Guy:
Yeah. No, it’s beautiful. No, I appreciate it and I certainly appreciate your time today. And I’ll,

Elizabeth:
Yes.

Guy:
I’ll, I’ll actually listen back on this podcast as well and, and ponder on the many bits of wisdom that, uh, that you shared today. But there’s anything else you’d like to share, um, we, we, we wrap it up. So you, you talk about, you said you got, you do masterminds as things like

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
Um, yeah.

Elizabeth:
Yeah, so, so, um, if you just go to the spiritual investor.com, so there’s a, we have, you know, more of the high end mastermind or we even have just a, uh, a club that’s $17 you can get started investing and you can kind of get in the energy of money and things like that. So, um, it’s kind of a meet people where they are. ’cause like I said at the beginning, it’s more of a, you gotta meet people where they are instead of just trying to like. Put all of these imposed rules and stuff on people when it comes to money. I think people are all, they’re all done with that.

Guy:
Ain’t that the truth? Yeah, totally.

Elizabeth:
I wanna hear about you. I wanna hear from you on when you do this experiment, because that’s the whole thing. You are gonna meet a new version of you who’s not gonna be dead. Who’s actually still gonna be alive and probably have more money and have done it in an effortless way. That’s what I am putting out for you. That’s, that’s what I’m hoping. But you tell me if that ends up happening for you.

Guy:
will. It’s funny, honestly, like here in Australia, our company live in flow and the impact we’re having is phenomenal, like it truly is. And people say, wow, you know, it, it seems effortless, you know,

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
I’m in, I’m on purpose. Like I knew every cell in my body, I had to go in this direction. There was no question just. I knew and just off, off it goes and the, the momentum going, but there’s these other sticking points and elements that I’m bumping into

Elizabeth:
Yeah.

Guy:
it’s like, ugh, know?

Elizabeth:
Yes, yes.

Guy:
it’s boiling down to at the end of the day. It’s funny, I, I’ve been looking at silver. I, I, it was my birthday and I, I almost invested in the ETF in silver and I, and I hesitated, you know, and then I checked it 10 days ago, uh, two days ago, and it’s, it’s like, what the

Elizabeth:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
to silver? It’s just flying.

Elizabeth:
exactly.

Guy:
I think, you know, there’s a perfect example right there, you know, so

Elizabeth:
Yes. Yeah. Well, that’s another thing with money that you’ve tapped into is that, um, the universe doesn’t like weighting energy,

Guy:
Yeah.

Elizabeth:
energy from money because weighting energy is lack energy.

Guy:
Yeah, yeah. Oh, beautiful,

Elizabeth:
Oh my God, it’s been so great talking to you.

Guy:
Yeah, likewise, likewise.

Elizabeth:
Yeah,

Guy:
your time.

Elizabeth:
yeah, absolutely. That’s been great. Thank you.

Guy:
welcome. Thank you so much, much love. Thank you.