#109 My awesome guest this week is Shane Kelliher. A self-confessed self-help junkie, over perfectionist and seeker.
Shane joined my Let It In Program during 2019 after many years of meditating, searching and still struggling for answers. I invited Shane on the podcast to share his journey, Enjoy!
Show Notes from Shane’s journey:
• Been a seeker since my 20s, I felt like I was missing something, there had to be more to life, I wasn’t truly happy.
• I became OBSESSED with self-help material, looking for that thing that was going to turn my life around. Only a lot later I realised the whole time I was sub-consciously telling myself that ‘I’m not good enough as I am’, I need to learn more. I was completely addicted, one book to the next to the next, cramming it in.
• Crippled by ‘perfectionism’ in all areas of life, everything needed to be impossibly perfect! – I later realised it didn’t even come from love for the thing, but more from fear of judgement for getting something wrong and looking less than perfect.
• Brother diagnosed to Stage 4 cancer in my early 30s – this is how I heard of you through your 180 podcasts. I became obsessed with health, trying to find answers to his condition.
• Heard of ayahuasca, became obsessed with it (the calling) was this the ‘silver bullet’ I’ve been looking for?
• My brother passed away 4.5 years after diagnosis – I was at an extremely low point if I died in the Jungle so be it. So almost immediately traveled to Peru, the Amazon for 5 Aya ceremonies, got absolutely DESTROYED – the most humbling experience of my life, but then rebuilt with such profound love.
But I believe I wasn’t ready for all the messages I received….
• Broke up with a long-term girlfriend – we had grown apart even further after aya. Hit another low-point.
• Went all in on starting a digital marketing business, for months, got my first client, but there was so much inner-resistance, I hated it and I still was basing my all my SELF-WORTH on everything outside of myself (achievement, possessions, money, etc)
• It wasn’t until I abandoned the constant striving and the self-help consumption and ‘let go’ from sheer exhaustion that opportunities really started to come…
• First one – Let it in academy… I’ve been meditating for years, but I decided to go in with a beginners mindset, starting with the basics and within a week I had experienced one of the most profound moments of my life – an almost out-of-body experience showing me how cruel I was being to myself, I burst into tears but was then met with bliss like I never experienced as I knew I’d found what I was looking for all these years – love and respect for myself (this has been the turning point of my life)
• saw adverts about the retreat, I couldn’t really responsibly afford it after all the time I had off starting a business but I just knew I had to go so I leaned in on that feeling “F##k it, I’m all in, I’ll find a way”.
• The retreat was exactly where I needed to be, meeting LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE has been invaluable and made all the difference
• Shout out to Petra, wouldn’t be where I am without her guidance and yours. And Matt just completely caught me by surprise – so grateful.
Get out of your head, it can lead you in the wrong direction, listen to your heart and lean into what you think it’s saying even if it’s scary and everyone tells you otherwise
Be kind and loving to yourself – you are WAY better and more capable than you think you are. The more you truly learn to love yourself the more you’ll start to back yourself in the outside world – the possibilities are limitless!
I don’t believe you’ll find answers to life’s big questions in a book! They come from within, journey inwards (get help if you need to) through meditation and trust, trust, trust
True freedom comes from vulnerability – to lower your armor and have the courage to show your true self to the world and risk judgment, you may lose some people in your life in doing that, but you’ll retain the ones that matter and attract a new tribe.
Gratitude really is the shortcut to happiness (so easy to take this for granted – I know I did) but it takes daily effort WITH EMOTION.
You might get there alone eventually, but its much faster ‘together’ with like-minded people (Let it in academy and retreat) and with mentors playing a few steps ahead (Guy, Matt, Petra)
It’s a lifestyle, but now I’m really enjoying the journey (which is the gift, not the destination). I truly believe anything is possible with this work.
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Guy: Hi, my name is Guy Lawrence. And thanks for tuning into my podcast today. If you’re enjoying these conversations and you want to check out more of this transformational work, be sure to come back to guylawrence.com.au and join me as we go further down the rabbit hole. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Shane, welcome to the show. Thanks for coming on.
Shane: Ah, thank you so much guy. Like, uh, I do remember actually when I joined your forum, just thinking like how great it would be to, to be one of these guys that have made a change and got caught on your, on your podcast. I actually so,
Guy: Wow! I did not know that. I did not know that. That’s amazing. Yeah. Well
Shane: Tell ’em things pop up.
Guy: Yeah, exactly. Well, I really appreciate it man. Cause every time I, um, share somebody that is been doing the work passionately, like yourself and coming through the different processes and things that we have, I wanna to bring them onto the podcast and share it back. Like it’s really helping inspire other people. For sure. You know, a few weeks ago I had Fleur come on and you know yeah, yeah, of course you were at the same retreat, you know, and, and um, and I had a lot of people reaching out afterwards, which was just beautiful, you know, so, um, I appreciate, um, uh, that point. It was great to come on and reconnect and yeah, I have a discussion today and I, and I always like to start as well just to normalize it made. What are you doing to pay the bills at the moment? What’s your, what’s your daytime job kind of thing?
Shane: I am a freelance graphic designer, so um, yeah, I’ve been doing that for, Ooh, probably about seven years now. So, um, yeah, that’s had a challenges in itself
Guy: for sure. For sure. That brilliant because I only, I only say that ’cause sometimes when it comes to this work, when I’m, you know, I’ve got a program, call it, Let It In. I mean our retreat is called let go and live in flow. And I think sometimes it can be interpreted that we attract people that just wander up the Hills with long hair and wearing crystals and stuff. And, you know,
Shane: well it’s funny you should say that because I’ve always had a bit of a complex about that whole hippie thing, which it’s taken me a while to let go of. Um, you know, I kind of feared being judged as, as a hippie. Like, you know, I’d have nights giving these ducks of being a hippie and I think it was actually something that I created for myself to protect myself from actually going too far down this path. It’s like I was almost judging myself and, um, it’s only sort of lately I’ve just been like, Oh, you, this is me. Like, I know the stuff works. Um, I don’t care what anyone says. Like I’ve proven it to myself that it works and I’m just going to embrace it.
Guy: So, so let’s say you’ve been on quite a journey, so take us back a bit. Cause I know you mentioned you’ve always been a bit of a searcher. What does that mean? What did that mean to you? Like what did life look like growing up in your 20s and stuff?
Shane: I guess in my twenties, a lot of that was, uh, partying and just got into the workforce. Like, yes, my early twenties, and, um, uh, I was just living it off. I was, I was pretty happy, but it wasn’t until probably my late twenties that, I just had this feeling that there was something else. And, um, I started, I started just looking around and, um, I think like a lot of us, um, the, you know, the secret came onto my radar and I was like, Oh, wow, you know, this, what’s, what is this kind of thing? Um, I mean, little did, I know there’s a, there’s a little bit of a simplified version of the truth cause I’m, I sort of imagined driving around in a Lamborghini, but I still managed to blow 10 grand.
Shane: It doesn’t quite work as simple as that, but, um, and yeah, uh, just, um, started looking into various books like the classics, I’m thinking grow rich. Uh, then I start a little bit, perhaps a little bit out of control without me even realizing it.
Guy: Like, um, in what sense?
Shane: Uh, it’s, it’s consuming a lot of information like reading a lot of books. Um, just one to the next to the next. Like I wasn’t really even in, I dunno, it was just, yeah, it was literally like an addiction. I was just consuming this information but not necessarily internalizing it like this, such this different levels to knowing one concept is I’ve found and you could know it, um, ever reading it a book, but you still, it’s not until you really internalize it and get it and grasp it that it actually takes an, has an effect in your life. So yeah, I just got um, a bit out of control and it wasn’t until later that I kind of realized it was,
Guy: what was, what was pushing that hunger for that knowledge cause it cause quite often as well, we can be blinded by the knowledge and it keeps preventing us from taking action. We all literally like, let’s do one more book. Let’s just do one more reading. Let’s do one more this and it can, we can kind of be suspended in this. I feel for myself anyway, that I was spending myself in this false illusion where I was telling myself I was making progress, but it was the whole time it was allowing me not to take the steps I needed because I just kept consuming information.
Shane: Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And um, for me, I think it was, I was a, I was just insecure in myself. Um, I was looking for something. I didn’t quite know what, but I’m looking for, make me feel whole, I guess. Um, took me a long time to find that. But, uh, yeah, yeah. If that makes, if that kinda makes sense.
Guy: Yeah. Yeah. So, so tell me what happened then, cause I know you’ve had some, some interest in, um, uh, dynamics happen in your life that kind of sparked action of a different direction. So what were the tipping points for you then to turn all this content, all this information? What were the specific turning points then, if you like to, to actually start to apply this into where the rubber meets the road?
Shane: Um, I think, um, if I can go back just before that, one of the big impacts I had was, um, my older brother, he was, um, diagnosed with stage four cancer and my early thirties, and that just completely, um, rocked my world and along with the family and I can’t even imagine what he was going through. So, um,
Guy: how old was your brother when he was diagnosed?
Shane: Um, it’s about nine years older than me, so probably early forties. Oh, wow. Uh, so still still young and, um, yeah, it was really tragic, but, um, yeah, so I just got obsessed with, um, health basically, and I’m trying to find a solution for his, um, his diagnosis and that’s, um, how I stumbled across your one 80 podcast. Um, and then, um, you’re a nurse, you’re bringing on gifts like Joe Dispenza and the like and us as like, wow, this is, um, this is Nick’s label. Like, um, yes, these are concepts I’ve never heard of. Um, yes. So, um, yeah, sadly he, um, he passed away four and a half years later and, um, I was at a huge low point in my life. Um, it was, yeah, the whole family was, um, you know, gosh. Um, and yeah, I, um, just before that I’d heard of, uh, Iowasca which I know you’ve had experience with as well.
Shane: And um, I shot over to Peru almost two weeks after his passing and I’m hoping I would find the, um, uh, just the solution to just their silver bullet. Um, that thing that I was missing, um, or a, an answer to all this and uh, yeah, like got over the air and um, you know, straight into the, um, strength of the first ceremony and uh, that was, um, I kind of went and they had guns blazing. Like, come on Iowasca, show me some visions, give me some insights. I’m really, and uh, it was ah, I want to get a little bit emotional just talking about Pat. It was a really humbling experience to just have my ass completely kicked. Like I’m just completely have my, um, consciousness overridden. I had no control, a loss of identity, didn’t know who I was, where I was. And it was just keeps screaming at me cause it kind of talks to you screaming at the like respect me, respect me.
Shane: And even like after the ceremony had finished, um, respect the, I was kinda, yeah, I think it is. I think it was puppet to I they call the, he’d hit Madison spirit of Iowasca. But, um, even after the ceremony was formally over, I still Justin such turmoil and was just laughing at me saying, I’ve still got you. And just laughing. And, um, I was broken man. After that, I tell you, I was just in tears and um, you know, the ego completely obliterated. But then, um, later on it was, you know, late later ceremonies just, uh, just made with such, um, profound love and just comfort from, um, from whatever you had this maybe you’re interfacing with like God, the universe, mother nature. Um, yeah, it just had this overwhelming desire to sort of help help your fellow people out. And, um, you know, but, um, I don’t think I was quite ready to receive all those messages as, um, later on when I, you know, after about six months I, um, from coming home, like I was still riding high on life, but then I started, um, consuming this information, a lot of self help and file again.
Shane: I thought like maybe if I, if I start a business, um, then I’ll be happy. Um, you know, uh, people will like me, um, for like a head or my self worth was attached to everything outside of me. Um, you know, if I have a successful business, a nice car, if I’m doing all the stuff in, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll be somebody. Um,
Guy: it’s so easy to fall into that trap, isn’t it? You know, without realizing it, I think. And then, and then once we started prop ourselves up from that place, the moment, then we don’t realize how actually fragile and we really are. And vulnerable to tall left that was taken away all of a sudden how much it actually can, um, make us feel destroyed within, within ourselves.
Shane: 100%. And I feel, um, that’s a really common problem. Like I said, a lot of people, um, yeah,
Guy: yeah, it’s huge. So, so when you, uh, you obviously, cause you mentioned just before you went to do the ceremony, um, you were hoping for the silver bullet, you know, um, wow. So you came back and you, you of felt like you’d obviously moved through some stuff from, from the plant medicine, but then you felt yourself slipping back, if I’m not mistaken. [inaudible] back to that familiar feeling
Shane: before. Yeah, well I think I was get a Kips you what you need, not necessarily what you want. And I think for me it was processing my brother’s passing. Um, I still remember in the ceremony sort of asking like, ah, you know, what should I do with my career and stuff? And, uh, it would just tell me, just be patient and that’s, uh, just every time I asked this, what I would give back quite clearly. And so, um, yeah, couldn’t, um, really take more, much more from that. But yeah, like I said, I wasn’t really for all of the messages. And, um, yeah, I will ask her to certainly not, you know, it does get portrayed and YouTube as like the silver bullet, but, um, it is a great intervention for sure. And it is one of the most, there’s the most profound experience in my life for sure. Like it’s indescribable for sure.
Guy: Yeah. But we can dump all our expectations on it, how we think it should be and go and sit down [inaudible] go Excel our needs almost. And we can have a rude shock sometimes. A hundred percent. Yeah. So, so by the time you got to, um, cause I remember you reached out and you joined leaded in first, if I’m not mistaken, my program and you, you know, by that time, if I recall, you were already a seasoned meditator, she’d be doing a lot of meditation and you’ve been doing the work.
Shane: Yeah. Um, I was just doing TM meditation and I’m sure,
Guy: why did you decide to join if you’re already kind of,
Shane: um, I’d sort of become aware of Joe Dispenza’s work and, uh, I was reading his books, um, and I was just struggling with launching business. It just wasn’t me. Um, and, and digital marketing like I had, I had my first client, but, um, it just felt like I was red lining and first year it was just, and it wasn’t until I was just like, um, I can quote you mate, but fuck it, I’m all in. And, um, it wasn’t until I let go, um, of just that striving for what I thought was right for me, um, that all these opportunities started to open up to me. And, um, one of them was, was your, uh, your forum? Um, and, uh, and at first I was like, well, I’m doing Joe Dispenza’s his work. Like, um, you know, um, do I, do I need it? Like, and, um, but I don’t know, something, just something they just told me to just to just go with it. And, um, I’m so glad that I did because the way you taught it. Um, I had, I had skipped over stuff. Like for me, with even with Joe Dispenza’s work, I was still doing the meditations, but then skipping ahead to, uh, just visualizing a successful career, um, you know, dream, dream partner, all that. But just missing everything in between. Yeah,
Guy: it’s, it’s very, and I, I made this mistake many times as well. It’s very easy to cause we understand, you know, we might look at these, you know, I look at the laws of quantum physics and the quantum field and, and you could see the law of attraction that the secret of promoted and, and all these different elements. And if we, if we start to visualize our future now and start to bring that in, it’s going to, um, you know, we’re going to attract what we want into our life and you know, and there’s this kind of rosy element to it. Um, but if we don’t actually address the very resistant points that are within us, that are constantly there, that are within the, the unconscious. And if we don’t start to put the mirror on ourselves first, we can almost use all the visualizations in this for me is complete escapism from the very, from the very things that we need to over addressed in our own lives.
Guy: For the lessons that we need to learn from our life, to make us grow as an individual on from that growth is where the wisdom comes. And then from that wisdom we can apply it and then we start to attract the things in our life. But we skipped that bit because it’s the hardest. But it’s the bit that we, we want to, um, we tell ourselves all sorts of things, but if we’re not willing to step into the fire a little, if we’re not willing to have our own initiation in life, I think then, um, we’re always going to be treading water. And until we are willing to step back and actually really start to reflect on those things and have a deeper understanding of why that is, how it works, how the body works, and once we can apply all them things, I think we can make big headway. In a short space of time, it’s just literally trying to get the information across in the right way, but practice it as well. Right?
Shane: Yes. All right. Light, huge headway in a, in a, in a pretty short amount of time. Yeah. But not until you address those things for sure. It wasn’t until I sort of came back a few steps and, um,
Shane: for me, yeah. Lighten joining your forum. Um, you started talking about the heart and um, I was, was like, maybe I’ll get to the heart of that later. Let me just like get my mind straight. And, um, even with, with gratitude, I was like, it’s so easy to take gratitude for granted, uh, as you just hear about it all the time. Like everyone’s like, you’ve got to practice gratitude. But, um, I was like, okay, let me just make some headway and then I’ll try and just fit in a bit of gratitude, you know, when I can, it just wasn’t a priority. So, um, it wasn’t until some of your meditation’s, um, the hot based meditations like that day where they were cracking the like something was, um, was I would get very emotional, uh, with them, especially when it got to the heart and, um,
Shane: Yeah. I just went in to your program with a complete beginner’s mindset cause I was still like, I had all these jota spans and meditations and it was,
Guy: well, you’re a self help junkie and you’re self-confessed like, I’m sure you’d know more than me and when it comes to this stuff respects right.
Shane: Oh yeah. But um, yeah, it was, yeah, just, uh, yeah, it was, it was hard for me to let go of that and just be like, right, okay. I’m just going to start with the basics, not with the short meditations rather than just jump straight ahead to your advanced stuff. I was like, right now I’m just going to like take it easy here and I’m so glad that I did. Cause um, it was about probably only about a week and to doing your, your program. Um, I’ll always remember, this is one of the most profound experiences of my life. I wasn’t even meditating, but it was shortly after meditation, I just went to have a, a Nana nap. I was, I was just feeling a bit tired and I’m just, as I was dozing off, I had this,
Shane: bizarre experience like I’ve never experienced before, almost like an outer body perspective. Um, something took over and I could just see how clearly how cruel I was being to myself. And, um, it’s like my body, my being was just crying out to be like the high, actually get a little bit emotional, calling it a tape, but it’s just crying out to be, to be loved and cared for by myself. And I realized like I didn’t, I didn’t even love myself. I didn’t even like myself. And that was the reason why I was just searching and seeking. I was looking for this, um, this, this, this gap in my heart that only I could feel and I just burst into tears. Uh, but then it was just Mitt by this profound bless like I’ve never experienced, cause I knew that that is what I’ve been searching for like the last teen years, uh, was that, that love and respect for myself. And um, I was just riding high. Like I couldn’t even sleep for three days. I was so happy I didn’t even do anything. I was just walking around blissing out with this huge grin on my face. And um, and I knew that is where the point of my focus I’m here to be. So I really just took that on board and worked on just
Guy: how amazing is that? I remember you posting a video into forum actually afterwards, uh, recalling that moment. But you know, right there is the true present moment. It’s, you’ve been able to be the true witness of yourself from a third person perspective. Almost like you’re outside looking in and then you can see the truth of it all. And, and the, the, the most amazing thing about this work is, is when you grasp is that you found that for yourself. Nobody told you. You know what I mean? It, the word journey allowed you to really reveal that and, and that’s when we really get the lessons I think.
Shane: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Guy: So, so what happened from that point? Um, cause I know you, you were, you literally made a decision last minute to join us at the retreat, didn’t you?
Shane: Yeah, well was basically all right. Yeah. I came to the conclusion that what I was doing just wasn’t working. Um, I’d taken a lot of time off off my regular work to try and start this business. So, um, things were a little bit tired, like, and I’m coming over from New Zealand, uh, to get flights and accommodation and there are trade. Um, but there was something, um, inmate that just said that I needed to go. And, um, especially, I mean, yes, I saw a podcast with you and Petra as well, and I was just like, wow, who is the patron? She is amazing. Like there was something that was a resonating with me there too. Um, and I just wanted to get involved and meet both of you and I was just like, ah, okay. I’m just gonna. I’m just gonna go for it. And I’m sure it’ll, it’ll work out somehow, you know, I’ll find the money or whatever. And um, so yeah, jumped on the plane and went over and here I am at the retreat and I’m honest, a little bit starstruck to be honest. When I saw legalize for what I’m you, I lie, why are you taller than [inaudible]?
Shane: Like six foot and you’re like towered over me of that. Wow. That, um, they just said, ah, such a beautiful energy to you. And um, and then seeing a pit trout was a slap. Wow. This Patria but I was, I was too shy to even say hello. Like, um, I had this whole, um, Oh, almost this perfectionism straight up boys been, um, cursed with, without really realizing it. Just let hyper analyzing myself and, um, you know, especially around all these new faces. And I was like, Oh, what are they thinking of me? Um, you know, if I go and talk to them or they kinda like me, am I going to say the right thing? And I got to say the wrong thing. And, um, I was paralyzed. Um, I don’t know, you may, may or may not have noticed those quite standoffish. Um, and I, it wasn’t my intention at all, but, um, you know, I was in my element, I just wanted to connect with all these amazing people.
Guy: Did, did you have any idea of what you were getting informed when you, when you came to the retreat?
Shane: No. No. I mean, I thought after, you know, doing Iowasca is like, I’ve seen it all. Nothing’s kind of surprised me that I was completely wrong. I was so wrong. Um, you know, it was, it was tough. It was confronting. And um, yeah, the, uh, the first couple of days it was not easy. I felt quite stuck. Um, and uh, even felt like, uh, I mean the thinking, Oh my God, I’m going to going to have to come back for the next retreat. It’s just this, something’s just not, I’m just stuck. But, um, but yeah, by the, by the last day, everything just, um, just to jump connected and, um, other modes work. Why, wow. They just caught me completely off guard. Um, and that, um, I think blew out a few, a few cobwebs. Um,
Guy: yeah, yeah. No, just for the listeners as well that are listening, just intrigued by it all because what happens is what we witness is that we, we are any areas that we want to improve upon in our life. There’s resistance and resistance is what stops the flow of life I believe. And, and, and it’s like overcoming those resistance points to whatever area it is that allows that flow to come through. Hence why we let go and live in flow. But at the same time, um, you know, the, the body is being conditioned in such a way of, there’s a familiarity with itself that those resistance point, it starts to cling on for dear life. So when you say it started getting tougher and tougher and, and, and there’s a point where you just think, shit, am I ever going to get, is this ever going to leap?
Guy: I’m going to begin to have a breakthrough. It’s all, there’s always like a, the doc has night before the new Dawn. There’s always that feeling within us is just this, it’s like push, push, push this, this resistance. And then it breaks and then we come out the other end and we go, it’s like almost grabbing everybody, like, Oh my God. And then you feel the shifts within you internally, externally, energetically. You know, there’s a part of you that’s changed, you know, and that’s why we structure the retreats the way we do. And, uh, and we’ve, we see it every single time, you know, with everyone.
Shane: Yeah, yeah. No, it is, it was incredible experience. I’d highly recommend it to anyone and just connecting with, I just submit some beautiful people on this path, just this year, like through the retreat and, um, through yourself and through the forum and through pitcher and, um, cause it can be, it can be a lonely journey. Um, you know, back home. Like it’s not like everyone’s talking like this. I’m, they’re not having those deep conversations. Um, so, um, yeah, what you’ve created and just getting an an amongst, um, likeminded people getting involved has just a game changer. It’s just so much more powerful to do it with other people. She’s doing it in a group, like, uh, I couldn’t overstate that enough. Like, um, you know, I was, you know, you could probably could get there alone, but, um, it’s gonna take you a lot longer. Um, so yeah, that’s been, that’s been the difference. Awesome.
Guy: What was looking back at the retreat now, what would you say was the most memorable part of it for you when you, if you look back and reflect anything, anything that stands out?
Shane: A standout would be, um, uh, Matt, I’m, Oh, for sure. I didn’t really know anything about him coming into it. Um, then, uh, I literally thought it would just be meditating to some, some nice music and uh, that’d be, that’d be a nice kind of thing. So it just completely blew me away. Like it was almost like a mini Iowasca ceremony. It was crazy full on. And, um, I didn’t know what the hell was going on, what was going to happen. Um, but yeah, that just, that just blew me away. And, um, yeah. And just, um, connecting the relationships and the made with, um, with, at, at the end, um, once side kind of defrost it a little bit and you know, I was feeling at home and um, just meeting those just beautiful people, um, which has made my journey a whole lot easier and a whole lot more enjoyable.
Guy: Yeah. We don’t realize how important it is until we have it in our lives. And then if it’s been missing for a long time, we kind of just accept it to be like not, but once you start making these connections with different people and, and you know, they become lifelong friends and they’ll be always there. I have no doubt you could reach out to so many of them right now if you ever need and they’d be there for you, you know, the drop of the hat kind of thing.
Shane: Oh yeah. Yeah. I know I could, I’d be the same with them as well. Exactly. It’s just beautiful to see everyone, um, just willing to be, to be vulnerable. Like I’m willing to let you know to show this stuff, show this story. You know, this is me, I’ve got some, you know, I’ve got my issues and, um, I’m here to, to make my life better. I’m here to do something about it, you know, I don’t want to be so easy just to, I don’t know, go out drinking or watch TV or sedate yourself like so many people, but you know, just uh, just, yeah, that findability that people showed, um, it was just truly a special.
Guy: Yeah. Amazing. So what do you think, um, this year has taught you, you know, from, from going, fuck it, I’m all in, you know, you let go. Then you joined the, let it in program, then you came to the retreat and now it’s been, you know, uh, maybe four or five months after and reflection and looking back at it all. Like what, what do you think is taught or taught you?
Shane: Mmm, I think that like we are like, we are way better than we actually think we are. Um, it’s so easy to, I think just overanalyze in your head base and look at your results around you. But, um,
Shane: I don’t know. I found once I actually engaged my heart, um, I felt like it’s just been brought online somehow. Um, I just feel so much stronger in myself. Like I have so much more belief in myself, which is what you need if you want to go out into the world and you know, make a, um, make the most of your life or make a positive change in your life. Like if you’re going out there. Um, like I was, um, not liking myself, uh, with a low self esteem. I just felt like a fraud the whole time and that’s why it was just so hard. But now, um, yeah, just spraying my heart online and I’m loving myself having a healthy for myself, it’s so powerful and makes life so much easier. Um, you know, I feel like, you know, I could probably do anything, you know, if I kind of, you know, use that, that will, that I’ve been using, um, the whole time, you know, that like that, that 5% conscious that you talk, talk about, I was like using that to assert my will on the outside world rather than bringing it back and using it to train that at 95% subconscious.
Shane: And yeah, once you start to work and get that working for you, like, um, it’s just that this dormant superpower that we’ve all got. Um, and once you connect with it, uh, and kind of let go and trust it, um, and it’s, it’s hard. It is hard to let go in the beginning. Uh, cause you know, it feels like you’re just gonna you’re gonna fall down. Um, but um, yeah, just all these little opportunities start arising, little insights, um, just come out of the blue and um, yeah, just lean onto them as you, I said, lean into what those things are. And, um, before you know it, you’ll be, um, you know, living a good life or in line with your heart.
Guy: Totally. So important made. Last question before we wrap it up. What would you say to someone, so if someone is still listening to this right now, they’re obviously intrigued with the whole thing, you know, that’s what normally happens. Uh, what would you say to someone that’d be sitting on the fence? That’s the bait and about even just doing my four week program or coming into the retreat, just coming straight in, you know,
what would you say to them if they were on the fence show?
Shane: Um, I would just just go all in, like, like maybe like life life is short and, um, I can’t understate how important this work is. Like, uh, it’s so powerful. Um, yeah, I, yeah, I don’t know. I lost the words. Like I would say, you’ve just got to do it. Um, as you take a journey that you probably weren’t even, you probably didn’t even plan on taking, but it’ll be like for your, the better good for the greater good. Um, which has been in a much better place before you know it. And change happens pretty quick and it’s faster to do it in a group with like minded people rather than just reading books, going it alone. I can say that I’ve proven it to myself. Sure. So I know that for sure.
Guy: Yeah, totally. No, thank you Shane. Appreciate it. And, uh, and I’ll just wrap it up, you know, and just want to say, witnessing what you, the changes in you this year as I’ve gotten to know you. It’s been awesome and I’m grateful that I’ve been able to be a part of it and support you when needed, um, where this work and uh, it, um, it certainly, um, for me, you know, with my own actions having to go, fuck it, I’m all in a few years back and sung out, like to, to fully have to surrender my myself into this work and to allow it literally let it in as well. So to see it, having that ripple effect like, um, fills me up no end. So I’m just, I’m so grateful that, uh, I’ve been able to help you in some way as well.
Shane: Yeah. I mean, thank you for having the courage to, um, you know, to let go and to live your truth and, um, it’s helping so many others. You know, maybe I can do the same and.
Guy: I don’t doubt it mate.
Shane: Yeah. So grateful. Thanks mate. Really appreciate it, mate. Pardon me.
Guy: Thank you.
Shane: Thanks for having me.