#62 My awesome guest this week is Bruce Lipton. If you are tired of coming up against your own limiting beliefs to hold you back, then this episode is for you!.
This conversation goes deep, but more importantly, we cover ‘how’ we can create long-lasting change in our lives. Get ready to become the master of your fate, from what the wisdom in our cells taught us.
His internationally best-selling book ‘Biology Of Belief’ had a huge impact and it was an honor to have him on the podcast today. Enjoy!
About Bruce: Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D., a pioneer in the new biology, is an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirit. A cell biologist by training, Bruce was on the faculty of the University of Wisconsin’s School of Medicine and later performed groundbreaking stem cell research at Stanford University.
He is the best‐selling author of The Biology of Belief and the more recent Spontaneous Evolution, co‐authored with Steve Bhaerman. Bruce received the 2009 prestigious Goi Peace Award (Japan) in honor of his scientific contribution to world harmony and more recently in 2012 was chosen as Peace Ambassador for the “Thousand Peace Flags” project of the Argentinian Mil Milenios de Paz.
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Guy: Bruce, welcome to the podcast.
Bruce: Guy, I am so excited to be here with you because I know your audience is filled with all those wonderful cultural creatives, those people looking for new answers out of the old box that works struggling in right now. So, uh, thank you for this opportunity to talk to, to these amazing people that are going to support the evolution we’re experiencing.
Guy: Thank you Bruce. It’s greatly appreciated. You know, it’s been a year since I’ve started my new podcast and it allowed me to just open up and, and go full reign on the conversations I want to talk about and bring people in. And I was very nervous actually because I didn’t know what the response was going to be because people were so used to me from my old podcast is talking about health and wellness and the response has been absolutely amazing. And I know there’s a lot of hungry, hungry people out there for this
Bruce: let’s feed stuff.
Guy: So just in case nobody knows, um, your background, Bruce, if you were at an Australian barbecue and a stranger walked up to you and said, Oh, you know, introduced themselves and asked you what you did for a living these days, what would you say to them? Okay.
Bruce: Well, uh, I, uh, I’m a former research scientist, a pioneer in the field of epigenetics, the new science, the science of personal empowerment of versus the genetic programs that people have acquired over the years where they say, oh, the genes are controlling your life and that, uh, uh, it’s sort of like your life is preprogrammed at the moment of conception depending on what genes you get in that, uh, we, as far as we know, we didn’t pick the genes and we can’t change the change if we don’t like the characters. And then we’re programmed to believe that genes turn on and off by themselves. And then you realize, oh my God, I’m a, I’m a victim of my heredity. If there’s something running in my family, I’ve got all, I’m going to get that gene. I’m going to have that, you know, like cancer’s running in the family, Alzheimer’s, whatever. Uh, and that’s the belief of genetic control, control by genes and the relevance about this as the work that I, I started, uh, experiencing the new science, uh, actually 50, two years ago.
Bruce: I was working on stem cells. And at that time there was only a handful of us in the entire world that even knew what a stem cell was back in the 60s. Okay. And, uh, so I was working with this novel material and, and the cells in the culture, uh, am I experiments reveal that the genes did not control their biology, that the environment that they were in was adjusting their biology. And so when I started to see this, uh, uh, you know, of course at the time I’m teaching the curriculum genes control life. And then I go into the laboratory and the cells are saying, no, no, Jane’s don’t control life. The environment controls the genes. Well, today that is the foundation of a science called epigenetics. And you say, well, sounds like genetics. I go, yeah, but the revolution is in the Epi. Epi means above.
Bruce: So when I said the old belief that most people have genetic control simply means controlled by genes, but the new science has put in there and the new sign supersedes genetic control. The new one is called epigenetic control and go, what’s the difference? I go, Epi meaning above. So it means control above the genes I owe, what’s above the genes. I go, well the environment and then I go, yeah. But more importantly is this, the nervous system reads the environment and relays what’s going on in the world to 50 trillion cells in our body. So the problem is when you get to a level of humans compared to very primitive organisms, we don’t read the environment directly, reread the environment through a filter called the nervous system, which interprets that environment. So in most cases, we’re not reading the real environment, we’re reeling, whatever program, belief or interpretation we have the environment.
Bruce: Uh, and this is my two people I, you know, could be standing in the exact same spot, look at the same world, and one of them goes, oh, how beautiful the world is and everything is great. And the one right next to him has gone. This was a scary place. I’m to know, you know what? I’m so afraid and everything I go, they’re both in the same environment. Yeah. But each of them has a different filter of how they see that environment. And all of a sudden, why is this relevant? Because the filters consciousness and then I say, and why is that relevant? I say, well, if you change your consciousness, you change your genetics and all of a sudden I said, well wait then I’m not a victim of the genes. I go, no. The only thing you might be a victim of is the consciousness that is selecting your genetics because if it’s ms program, then by definition your genes are ms program.
Guy: Yeah. It’s amazing. There’s so many questions you’ve already triggered off in the underbelly one hell of a barbecue. I could tell you
Guy: fist of all, how would you define then consciousness?
Bruce: Well, this is the issue because I can show you consciousness definition. That’s a one sentence definition or I can show you a consciousness definition. That’s a couple of pages and the idea is, oh well everybody starts to decorate consciousness with their own Adams and then make it more and more complex. I said, no, don’t do complex. Go to the simplest understanding, which is an awareness of the environment. I said, well, how? You know, somethings were aware of the environment because it makes a response environment. So that means that some way, recognize the environment and then was able to respond. So I say, okay, from that simple level of a definition of consciousness being awareness of the environment, this is why so important. Because then we’d go down to the most primitive organisms on this planet. I say bacteria. I go, are they conscious? I go, they are absolutely conscious.
Bruce: They read their environment, they’re just their actions, their biology, their movement and everything. So basically as they’re responding to this world, I say, so consciousness begins at a very low level of awareness bacteria. But as you go up the evolutionary tree, there’s more and more conscious business with every organism as you go up. And so what’s really interesting is then you can expand the definition to hire. You want to talk. That’s why I say you want to talk about human consciousness while it’s about two page definitions and he won’t talk about bacteria conscious. The one sentence definition, uh, and so basically says this consciousness is an expanding character or quality of living organisms. That starts at a very primitive level, uh, and just gets more complex. Not because it’s more, it’s different. It’s just like numbers. Let’s say if I assigned a number of bacteria, has a, uh, a two level of consciousness. And I say, what about humans that, oh, they have 200. I go, what’s the difference? It’s just more and more conscious processing. So, uh, it’s a scale. Presumably we’re near the top, but uh, we may not be here that long because a, we’re not taking care of our consciousness or our world the way we’re thinking these days.
Guy: Yeah. Got It. Got It. So, so, so the way I interpret then, then if consciousness is awareness and, and then where we put our awareness into the world’s not information, we then started to perceive it and this, that perception is actually affecting our biology from moment to moment.
Bruce: Absolutely. In fact. But everybody’s aware of it. And it when, if I say the word Placebo, Oh, what’s placebo? Well, I’m got an illness and having trouble getting over it. But then the doctor says, well, here’s this brand new pill and you know, it’s colored purple because that’s a very special collar and it costs a lot of money. And all of a sudden he said, wow, this is the thing that’s going to heal me. You take the pill, you get better, and then you find out it was a sugar pill and everyone’s aware of it. And I said, well then one healed you. Well, it wasn’t the pill, it was your belief in the pill with a positive spin that I’m going to get healed. You take a sugar pill, you get healed. You only did it with your consciousness. Now everyone’s familiar with that and it’s like, yeah, good. Positive thinking helps create health. And what I really want to emphasize this moment, because this is left out of the conversation, that to me is the most important part. What about negative?
Bruce: Huh? Problem. Negative thinking is equally powerful to positive thinking, but it works in the opposite direction. So a placebo can heal you of any disease, uh, and negative thinking called no. Cbo can cause you to die without any disease. Just because you believe you’re going to die. So all of a sudden it says, oh my God, the the powers in the consciousness and what we don’t recognize him. Science unfortunately gave us some statistics is that the vast majority of our thoughts are not positive thoughts. They’re very negative, uh, you know, fear base and all that kinds of stuff. So I say, well, why is it relevant? Well, when you didn’t think that negative thoughts on any problem, then you can think all the negative thoughts you want. But now that we’ve talked about the fact that negative thoughts can cause every illness, and matter of fact, a fact of science, less than 1% of disease is even connected to genetics less than 1%.
Bruce: So I said, yeah, but where the heck is 99% of disease coming from a, I say environment. And more specifically our perception of the environment, meaning our thoughts are not in harmony, but as we see the world, no matter how beautiful it is, when they go through that filter of not harmony, the cells don’t see the world. They only see what your thoughts are. So that’s why the nervous system is in the, in between the actual environment. And the south is this nervous system. And the problem about him, as I said, the cells don’t see the real world. They only see what the nervous system tells them about the real world. And that’s all of a sudden it says, oh my God, can we have a heck of a responsibility? Because if I’m sending signals to my cells, which are adjusting their genetics, I sure as heck want to make sure I sent it in the right signals. Otherwise, my genetics are out of balance. And this is why we have health issues.
Guy: It blows my mind. It absolutely blows my mind when I think about this and what I found fascinating. And I can only speak from my own journey, Bruce, is not because I perceive the world is sitting where my entire life, that’s all I knew. So I didn’t realize that if I did shift my awareness, it can shift my, uh, the, the way I was feeling and being at any one time because I had only had the reference point of my past. Yes. Reinforcing what I was already experienced experiencing if not maxed out. That’s what you call truth to yourself. That’s your truth. Whatever that filter is, whether it’s true or not, uh, that’s just based on the filter.
Bruce: So I mean, here’s the one we just talked about. Almost everybody out there that hasn’t leased read my book, uh, believes that genes are controlling their life. And then what we’re talking about, well that’s a complete false hood. Uh, our consciousness controls are alive. That’s what I said. If you believe in the genes controlling themselves and were victims, we don’t control it. But now we find out that belief was entirely wrong because since our consciousness is controlling our genes, we’re the ones that can change consciousness. So all of a sudden says, oh my God, we can change our beliefs. And this is why, for example, something called spontaneous remission occurs where a person could be terminally ill with cancer and then go through a life change, belief change. Like I’m letting go of all my stress. I finally got a few months left, then the hell with everything.
Bruce: I’m going out to enjoy my life. And then a few months come and pass and then there’s a year, then there’s a couple of years. And what happened is was the moment they let go of the stress, which is the cause of the problem and up to 90% of all illness is stress. If I let go of the stress on that, go to the problem and then guess what? The biology will adjust itself to the New Vision. So as you, as you change from one belief to the next belief, your whole biology changes and then you go, well that’s kind of weird. And then I go, there is something called dissociative identity disorder, which is also called multiple personality. I say, what’s The relevance? I say there are physical characteristics that are associated with different personalities in the same person. So, uh, for example, they could be allergic to like strawberries and break out in hives in their normal personality.
Bruce: Then they switched to the other personality, which is psychological miswiring but they have a different personality. And what about a minute and a half, and they guess what they could eat all the strawberries they want because the other personality doesn’t have a strawberry allergy. And this had been demonstrating, I going changing the personality change the entire function of that immune system in a minute and a half. And it’s like, okay, you know what guys? Let me, let me add this, because as we’re talking, I realized, let me give a statement that’s going to blow people’s minds. Uh, they’ve heard of, but I have to emphasize why it should blow their minds. Quantum physics is the most valid science on planet earth. There is no science that has been tested or verified more than quantum physics, most truthful of all sciences. I go, so I go principle in science and quantum physics is consciousness is creating our life experience fact of physics foundation.
Bruce: And I go, this is not like it’s a, you want to believe that I say, no, it’s not your choice to want to believe it. This is the established science then. So while you’re sitting there and you say, the established science says that as you change your consciousness, you’re changing your life experiences. Well this is absolutely true. And now we have a biological correlate to that. Uh, and that’s the epigenetics, which is the one that connects consciousness to sell, uh, behavior and jeans. So I’m talking fact so we can turn off this, uh, interview and then walk away. And I go, you know, you still have to know your thought when you walk away from here is what is controlling everything. And it’s not a suggestion. It is fundamental fact of life. And we, it’s hard for us because if you live 40, 30, 50 years with a belief system, and then some guy lifted gets on and says, Hey, well don’t believe that because there’s a whole new belief system.
Bruce: And I go, well, it’s actually not bad new. It’s since 1925. Uh, but it just hasn’t percolated through our system. Uh, and I hate to say it, but I will. The idea that we can be programmed, programmed that consciousness, which then programs biology and behavior, uh, it’s not a new idea. Hell, the Jesuits for 400 years, 400 years have said, give me a child until it is seven and I will give you the man and what they were saying for 400 years of, nobody’s really paid attention to it. But guess what? It’s modern science. The first seven years of our life is programming and the rest of our life, 95% comes from that program. So if you were programmed with limitation in the first seven years, if you don’t change that program, you will express that limitation to 100 years of age. Uh, and so the idea is this, what’s the point? It’s not a new idea that consciousness controls what we are. It’s been known for 400 years. They think. I say, oh well just cause the Jesuits said that nobody paid attention. I go, are you kidding me? They’re programming people better than they’ve ever programmed people. I mean, if you watch an infant walk around with an iPad in their hands and sort of like, whoa, the, the baby’s got a I pad as a program program. That’s what it’s all about.
Guy: It’s amazing. It’s amazing. And, and here’s the thing, because I’ve done probably in the last 12 months, Bruce, maybe 25 workshops and I go in and I’m helping people talk about meditation and have these conversations and there’s probably our region 30 people per workshop coming in. So I’m seeing hundreds of people and I ask everyone who’s heard of quantum physics and, and there’s maybe one or two PR people just even tip toeing the their hand in. And, um, and to me, because of the, I guess the shifts I’ve had and feeling my consciousness change if unchange actually the, the effects on my body by giving myself the time daily to meditate and look at these things over the years is quite profound. Um, how do you think this message is going to get out there fully in the future? Or do you think
Bruce: if it doesn’t, if it doesn’t, the future is bleak because we are all programmed with fear. We’re program with not enough. We’re programmed with a Darwinian belief that says, Hey, life is a struggle for survival. And you have to go out there and a competition for fitness. Meaning what? Well, if you’re not the fittest, then you die out. That’s the beliefs as, and it’s like, well then everybody’s out there and there’s rat race trying to stay alive when the Darwinian theory about this competition is in is totally incorrect because the new science reveals evolution is not based on competition, is primarily based on cooperation. Like, oh my God, that’s a 180 degree different than the world we’re living in, which is all competition based. I go, no, the world of success and help is cooperation. And this is the evolution that the planet has to face right now.
Bruce: Uh, because it really turns out the evolution is to nights all humans are the equivalent of cells in a larger organism called humanity. And, and that we’re replicating everything that 50 trillion cells are doing in our body. A little sidebar. Okay. Uh, you look at the human body and all the magnificent things that we do, and I go, guess what? The body is made out of 50 trillion cells. The cells are the living entity. The human is not a single entity. Human by definition is community. And the nervous system is government. When the government is sending messages down, it coordinates the community messages not in harmony because the community to break up. And that’s where disease comes from. Okay? So the fact is this, the functions that a human express, guess what? They’re already there in a single cell. Most of the single cells in their body, every system we have respiratory, digestive, excretory, musculoskeletal, nervous system, reproductive system, even immune system in single cells.
Bruce: So what are, wait, just a magnification of a cell in a sense of function. Okay. And then I say, so what? And I say in a new understanding of evolution, what’s the point is, is you make the cell and wants to sell his is completed to its fullest. You join them with other cells and make organisms out of it. And that’s how an Amoeba became a human community and how humans as Amoebas are coming together to create a super organism called humanity. And we will survive if we understand that. And we’re going extinct at this moment for not understanding that killing ourselves, in fact, killing the world around us because we have been so disconnected from the world thinking, oh, we’re just little blobs moving around. And it’s like, no, you’re part of a matrix. And when you let your part of the Matrix go to hell, it just, the Matrix is falling apart.
Bruce: Yeah. We are in a crisis and, and it’s just beginning to being talked about in the news more. Uh, I’ve been talking about it for 12 years. We are going extinct. And now, I mean, for example, the numbers are like this, 20, 48, there will be no fish in the ocean. That’s not a million years from now. 20, 48. You’re going to be there 20, 48. And then have to tell kids they used to have these things called fish. Here’s a movie of a fish. You can’t see them anymore. But that’s what we used to have 20, 48. Okay. Uh, that industrial civilization will not make it more than two decades from now. Industrial civilization from NASA research, unbelievable. There’s an a collapse, a reverse irreversible. It didn’t say it can recover. It says as it’s working, it’s going to collapse because no long sustainable.
Bruce: It’s not okay if you were alive in 1970 they did a survey of how many animals were on the planet. They just did the survey again two years ago. And guess what? They found out 62% of the entire animal population has disappeared. We only have one third, the number of animals on this planet that were here in 1970 a and all of a sudden you say, well, what is this? I’m saying we have thrown nature out of balance and that as humans that are causing this extinction process. And so the only way out is humans have to change it, otherwise it’s gone. So there’s a simple reality. Humans may not make it through the end of the century as the collapse of the environment is occurring. And uh, and, and one of the big things facing us right now, which again, we’ve talked about over years, but nobody’s paid attention to, is climate change.
Bruce: They go, what’s client? You know, climate change is always going to get hotter, it’s going to get colder or whatever the hell I go, no, no, no, that, that’s a side effect. The real effect is this. You cannot have agriculture if you don’t know what the climate is going to be because it’s changing. And I said, why is that important? Agriculture is what sustains us as you can’t plant and know you’re going to harvest because who knows if it’s going to rain over, it’s going to be too hot or it’s going to be too cold because it’s changing and all of a sudden that means you cannot count on food. So, uh, fortunately the evolution is picking up and they’re beginning to recognize we’re going to have to start growing food indoors because the climate is not going to support it.
Guy: What do we, what do we do it like if, if we look at that analogy of the cell and us as an individual cell in the larger complex community called humanity while walk, what do we start to do then as an individual cell? Because quite often we can just be gripped by FIA subconsciously. And we’re not even making choices. Uh, and they always become a one day going to do this one day or even with our own house. Like we, we actually drive our own health into the ground before we make changes
Bruce: as well. Yeah. You know, the first thing is this, let’s just do a simple understanding and says this, our lives I’ve been programmed, it’s not the movie, the Matrix is not science fiction. The movie, the Matrix is a documentary. We’ve all been programmed and that most of these programs are negative and disempowering and limiting in scope. And the idea is this, you got program from the last trimester of pregnancy through age seven and now science, and this is the part says that, um, from the average person, 95% of our life is not coming from our wishes and our desires and what you want. Health, happiness, relationships, that’s a conscious mind, a creative expression. But 95% of our life is coming from programs in the subconscious mind. And 95% of the time, the reason why we, we have so, so much subconscious, which defines as below conscious.
Bruce: So that 95% of our behaviors occurring without us noticing that it’s occurring. You say, how, how can I not notice 95% of my life? And I go, here’s the surprising part. When you’re in your conscious mind, it’s sort of like you have your hands on the wheel. You driving the vehicle and conscious mind is creative wishes and desires, all the things you want. But the moment you are thinking, your attention is not looking outwards, your attention is going in because the thought is on the inside. So I say a guy, uh, tell me what you’re doing on Thursday. And if you look around the ants, the answers are written right here, but you got the answer where it’s in your head. I said, well, the moment you look inside your head for the answer is the moment you let them go the wheel. Because if you’re looking inside, you’re not looking out.
Bruce: And I said, well then what happened? I go, subconsciouses autopilot. The moment you let go of the wheel, subconscious sets in, but I can go. Yeah, but it drives according to the program, not to the wishes. And desires. And I said, what in the program? Oh, it came in the first seven person. And then here comes the hard part because you say, okay, I’m rob rating from program. I can’t see the program. But, and I also can’t tell you what the program is. I tell you why. Because you were being programed, uh, in the last trimester of pregnancy before you were being born, you were programmed at zero. Okay? A one guy. Tell me the program you’ve got when you were one year old, you know, it’s like, I dunno, I got most of the time we have no vision of what the hell the program is.
Bruce: So if you go in your mind, you say, what’s my program? It’s like you can’t see it because you weren’t here when it went in. Your consciousness didn’t kick in until around age seven. So I said, why is it relevant? Well, if the program is running your life and you can see it, then how do you know what the program is? I want to help a lot of people right now, here it is fast. 95% of your life is coming from the program. So there’s a simple fact. Your life is a printout of your program pointed simple. Look at your life, all the things that you like that come into your life that you really like and it comes in. It comes in because there’s a program to acknowledge them, but then here’s the one I want to emphasize. Anything you desire, but you have to work hard for it and you have to struggle over and you have to put a lot of effort into your sweating over to make, I’m going to make us happy.
Bruce: I’m working real hard. Why working so hard? Answer whatever you’re trying to get to and you can’t get to. It’s not because the universe won’t give it to you is because there’s a program that is not supporting that in your subconscious. So I said, oh well how do I know my program? I said, look at your life. It’s a printout of the program. Whatever. You struggle with your struggling, not because nature won’t given you struggle because your program doesn’t support it. And all of a sudden that helps us because it says we want to get freedom. Then we had to find out where the negative programs are so we can rewrite the programs into a positive statement. So the first thing is where am I programs? Look at your life. There’s the answer.
Guy: Do we need to know exactly what the particular, like the particulars of the program or do we just need to know? Look the, there’s something stopping me from moving on.
Bruce: Yeah. It’s just not that, that’s a really good point to make. I, because of this reason as this. Um, there’s an old phrase that some people may not have heard about nowadays when I was young, you know, we heard stuff, uh, and what’s called don’t kill the messenger over the message and the free, and the statement is this, uh, some, I forgot how it was. Some king was gonna, you know, send an army to somebody and he sent a messenger to tell the people that he’s going to do it. And the people got so mad they killed the Messenger. And it’s like, well, the Messenger is that the one? That’s where the problem is that you know what you learned here. And so the point is this who did what to who, how it all happened, how the program unfolded. So how you created relationships that don’t work and all that stuff.
Bruce: And My mother did this and my friend did that. My Dad did that. And you could go all through a litany of all the people I go, that’s the messenger, the hell with the Messenger. They’ve left. They’re not even there. Huh? But you’re dealing with the message. And so going back and you know, saying, yeah, but my mom did that. It’s like, who cares if you didn’t change the message? I don’t care who gave you the message. That’s not relevant. So a, yeah, it’s very important to recognize there’s no blame because nobody knew anything about this really. Well, the Jesuits, but no, no common average person had any idea, uh, as parents that what they were doing and their behavior you’re in, what they were saying was being recorded in a hypnotic trance by a kid until they’re age seven. So the kid doesn’t even know they have the program cause it’s downloaded without them paying any attention.
Bruce: And then it plays 95% of the time when consciousness is busy not paying attention. I’m so, it’s a whole invisible world that we’re dealing with. And so the fact is, yeah, the Matrix is right. We’ve all been programmed. And so I just want to add this part because this is so cool about the matrix as well. Offers, here’s two pills, a blue pill and a red pill. Take the blue pill, you go back into the program, you’ll wake up. And world is just the way it’s always been. That’s like most people just got up today and the world’s just the way it’s always been. But if you take the red pill, you get out of the program and I go, well what’s it like to take the red pill? And then I go, most of us, at least by the time we got to 20 plus, um, have fallen in love now, may not have lasted, may have been a few days a week even, you know, a month.
Bruce: Who knows? Uh, I said, well, why, why am I bringing it up? And I said, because when we first fall in love, there’s a period of life that I referred to as the honeymoon where everything is beautiful. My God, you know, your life could suck every day, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then you meet somebody and 24 hours later you’re gone. Amen. Life. So beautiful. I’m and hadn’t been. I love this person. The food’s great. The music’s great. Even the stupid jobs not so bad. And I go, what the heck happened here you’ve got a whole life of miserable and in 24 hours later you have heaven on earth. The answer is we have now recognized that it’s tantamount to the red pill. Falling in love keeps your conscious mind in control. You stop thinking so much. I mean, makes obvious sense. You look for this person your whole life.
Bruce: There they are in front of you. It’s not at the time to think it’s time to be. And that’s what the honeymoon is. No thinking. It’s just what’s next. Let’s do what’s next. And, and, and, and visually doing all that stuff. I go, what’s The relevance? The moment you stop playing the program, your life went from Blah, blah, Blah to heaven on earth. That is the equivalent of a red pill. I said, well, do you have to fall in love to do that? I say, no. All you have to recognize this. If you stop playing the damn program, you’ve start creating with wishes and desires. And so, uh, it’s available to all of us.
Guy: It’s a, it’s said that was the very question that was going to ask. Do we need to wait for an external circumstance to make that, that, that feeling of just being, being present and love in life. Cause they, you know, they say you can distill choices down to fear or love based choices that we do moment to. Um,
Guy: but, but with that, even that knowledge armed in mind, how do we then start to let go of that fear? Cause we can get gripped by it so much every time we come up against something we want to change in our life.
Bruce: Well, you know, the, the, the biggest fear factor, and this is related to something else, I had to learn myself because I didn’t have this knowledge. The biggest fear factor, uh, is initiated when we’re infants are just a little toddlers, a little higher maybe, uh, when consciousness perceives of death until a child has picture of death, there is no death. Life is just an ongoing thing. And then some day, all of a sudden we learned things die. The canary died, the cat died, the dog. Uh, and then that’s the first sign of death that we start to recognize. But the big one comes on, you start to connect to say, wait, but my parents die. And that’s the most important fear that a child has is if my parents die, where the hell am I? And so fear of death. And then I go, yeah, but wait another couple of years, because by the time you’re seven, that’s when it becomes self conscious.
Bruce: You start to recognize, well wait a minute, I die as well. And all of a sudden the fear of death, which was building up now as a predominant fear. Uh, and in fact, in biology there’s something called the biological imperative. And they go, I sat and I go built into every organism from bacteria all the way up to humans is the, uh, um, drive to survive. You try and kill a bacteria and it’s not going to go, oh yeah, okay, kill me man. I’m just hanging out. Kill me. Yeah, you’re trying to kill bacteria and it’s going to try to maneuver in any way possible to stay alive. So this drive to stay alive is built in every organism. Then you put the threat that you’re going to die in front of that because organisms below us don’t really know that. So they never worry about I’m going to die.
Bruce: They never see that. But we do. And all of a sudden it says, oh, well now our drive to survives got a filter that’s got fear in front of it. And its primary primary, uh, the, the, the imperative is primary. And once you have the fear, and this is an important part because people don’t realize this, your subconscious mind scans every thing. It’s the supercomputer that humans haven’t been able to create. The supercomputer called the subconscious mind. And it scans everything. I said, what’s it doing when it’s scanning everything? I said, the first thing it’s doing is looking for a threat. Why? Because that’s the first fear you’re going to die. So the emphasis is looking for a threat. And I said it was that conscious, like, no, it has nothing to do with conscious. But if the subconscious sees something as sure as Heck gonna wake your conscious mind up and say, there is something to be afraid of over there, and all of a sudden we start responding like that.
Bruce: So what’s the issue? The issue is the fear of death. Clowns, our future and our progress. Because it’s the thing that keeps us back because it says, if I do this, I’m going to lose my job, then I’m going to die. Oh, I won’t be able to pay the rent, then I’m going to die. And all these fears and I go, my God, you’re being driven by fear. And the idea is this. If you’d go back to the physics that I go, well, how do we create the world through conscious? As I said, well then what’s the consequence of having fear is consciousness. I go, well, about 99% of the illness on the planet is an example of that. Uh, and people can die just because they, they’re scared to death. And all of a sudden, I see. So what’s the most important thing? I say?
Bruce: Well, the surprise to me was to identify the fact that maybe I’m not dying. Maybe I’m a mortal. You Go, come on. I go, well, that’s the problem is uh, uh, taking consciousness and connecting it to physicality because there’s a consciousness beyond physicality where the consciousness and we come into the body and why would we come into a body? And I go, it’s a virtual reality suit. I say, if you’re just consciousness, if you’re had no physical connection, just consciousness. And I got this from myself, so I haven’t taught you the lesson. I’m going to tell you right now, Katie, throw 50 trillion cells. Cause I asked the question when I understood the nature of the consciousness separate from the physical body, I asked, oh my God, why have a spirit and a body? Why not just be the spirit? And that’s when 50 trillion cells welled up and gave me this answer.
Bruce: So I know they’re comedian cells. Uh, cause I asked, well, you know, uh, um, this whole, this whole question, why have both? And, and the cells answered with a question I asked I’ve why, why have both? And they said to me, Bruce, if you’re just a spirit, what does chocolate tastes like? And all of a sudden I thought, oh my God, sight, smell, sound, taste, feeling such as love. All these come from a mechanical device called the human body, which translates experiences into chemistry, which then is translated by the nervous system and sent back to the source. So I said, oh my God, you can only taste chocolate. Do you have a physical body? You can’t taste it as a spare because there was no taste receptors. And all of a sudden I started to go with then backed up and I said, oh my God, we came into these bodies to have sensation.
Bruce: What does love feel like? You know what? What is a rainbow look like? And all that. So we come into these bodies amp sensation, uh, okay, now this is gonna blow people’s minds. I hope. I said, wow. Yeah. So we came in the body to pick up these fields of information, sight, smell, taste, sound, you know, temperature, all of these different things. I said, well, how’s it work? I say, the brain translates these physical phenomena into vibration. The brain talks in vibration. There’s no taste up there. There’s no picture up there. It’s all vibration. So I go, so what? And I go, now, here’s the, here’s the park. His cool. I put wires on your head and it’s called electroencephalograph. And I read brain function, right? Yep. And I go, guess what? There’s a new device, a newer device called magneto and separate graph, not electro in satellite gravity.
Bruce: What does it do? Meg? Magneto and a Griff does the same thing and reached brain function. It goes, yeah, so what? The probe does not touch the head. The probe is out here and you have to stop for a second. I said, what the hell does that mean? I go, your thoughts are not contained in your head. Your thoughts are broadcast back out in the field again. And I go, so why is that relevant? Because in quantum physics, the thoughts which are energy or part of something called the field, and then I say, so what does all that mean that I’m broadcasting and energy field of thought and then the answer, and here comes here comes the, the the really important part. This is a quote from Albert Einstein, profoundly simple and again, profoundly important. The quote is this, the field is the sole governing agency of the particle.
Bruce: The hell does that mean the field is the energy. The thought is the Sole Governing Agency of particle is matter as we see it. Then all of a sudden it says, your thought is governing your matter. I was like, well, that’s what we’ve been talking about with epigenetics. Your thought is governing your, you’re a matter. And all of a sudden I said, so going back to my story then why have a body? Well, a, it takes our experiences and then sends them back to source because the sources in here, it’s coming in. So it’s going back and then I say, and that’s all it does. They, oh, you don’t know because source sends information this way. Body sends information this way. So I said, why is it relevant? Well, the relevance is simply this. We came here to create, we’re creating our lives with what? Your consciousness. So we’re creators like, yes we are.
Bruce: And I say, why is that relevant? And then I have to laugh because the whole belief that, oh, if you have a really good life and done your die, you can go to heaven where you can have whatever you can create. I go, this is where we came to create, because this is a mechanism of creation. It’s a body. It moves. It does things. It makes things physical, it responds, it sends back information. So the analogy very quick. We can’t go to Mars. We send up a Mars rover, lands on Mars, which is like a gold card with a lot of cameras and gear sensing devices and everything. I say that as a work. There’s a guy at NASA, he sends a signal to the rover, the rover moves around and then what the rovers, sensory devices send a signal back to the guy at NASA. So inclusion, we are Earth Rovers. We’re not even here. The driver is the field where the thought, the consciousness and the body is sending back the signals to consciousness so you don’t die and go to heaven. We’re born into heaven. This is where you came to create. This is where you take your imagination and you can make anything out of your imagination. You want to go to the moon first shout to have imagination and all this stuff. I’m thinking that’s what human life is all about and I said
Guy: so, yeah, no, I love it. I love it. Absolutely love it. It takes me back because quite a few years ago, um, I went to a five day meditation retreats and, and I experienced a connection to that very field that you speak of. And it kind of, it was, um, it was a life changing moment really. And it broke down all my belief systems about who I thought I was and what I do. I’m what, what I’m doing with my life. And because of that experience and that relationship, you talk about the fear of the biology, the fear of death and that protective mechanism that we do constantly. Subconsciously. It really, it really changed all that. I was like, it, it just, I don’t, I can’t even explain it. I don’t think I’ve word still
Bruce: been there, done that where I was, when that information, I had to change my belief system because I started at, first of all, is this real? I said, well, how do you know what’s real? Very interesting fact. I had the science of this through the cellular research on cloning stem cells and following through on that, I have the science of this and I saw, oh my God, we’re creating our life. That’s just the things I just said. Okay. And then I thought, oh, I want to tell people. So I’ve got a whole bunch of people gathered together as many as I could. And I say this, I want to tell you about something. There’s new science. If you understand the science, you can have the most fabulous life. And they looked at me and they go, you know, let them for a guy who says, you know this up your, your life doesn’t look that fabulous.
Bruce: And I realized, I almost said it will do as I say, not as I do. And now all of a sudden I’m like, what the hell? How can you stand up here and tell people how to create a beautiful light when you’re yourself or not even following your own consciousness? Because that’s when I didn’t realize when subconscious was the primary control, but that broke the spell. And once that was broken, I said, wait, I have to change my subconscious programming because programming is all limited, 70% limitation and disempowerment. So like yourself, there was a crash show. Well, if this is the way it really is, then why am I doing this old one? Let’s do the new one. And it works. It just works. It’s fabulous. I mean I have a completely different life than the one that was a pre 40 something. You know, the last 30 plus years has been, oh my God, walking on this planet without being a victim walking on this planet that if I’m creating it, then dammit I’m going to take responsibility because if I don’t like it, I’m going to stop creating it.
Bruce: And like yourself, it was time to look around and go, what am I creating that’s not really helping? It’s time to get rid of it. And then once you identify it, you can start to reprogram and once you start to reprogram, it’s gone. So the, the, the, the result of this is very simple for me to explain. I say, I wrote a book called the honeymoon effect. And the honeymoon effect, as I mentioned was how come it went from Blah, blah, Blah to heaven and earth. And the answer is because if you understand the science, you don’t have to do it with a relationship. It was just the, most people are familiar with it. That’s why I emphasize that that way you don’t need a person to fall in love with the cause. The first thing you need to fall in love with is yourself.
Bruce: And this is the biggest problem. And I can tell you how I know it is because I got involved with belief change programs and seminars. And so, uh, we’d go to a program and we do muscle testing and I’d say, let’s test for this belief. I love myself. 80 to 90% of every audience will not test positive too. I love myself. I have a wallet. If you don’t love yourself, then here’s the problem. How can anybody else love you? Because if someone says they love you and you look at yourself and go, oh, I’m not lovable. How the hell do you see I’m lovable? You’ve got a problem because you obviously don’t have quality control. Because if you knew me, like I know me, you wouldn’t love me. And then we push them away and then at some point when they’re gone, we look around and go, see, I told you I’m not lovable. They’re not here anymore. We sent them away.
Guy: Isn’t that incredible? Bruce, do you have just a question that popped in there? Like with your life, the way you live today, do you have any kind of of habits or routines or anything that you kind of do daily to not fall back into the programs or, or you kind of laughs? Just the joy now. Yes.
Bruce: Moving forward. Hands on the wheel. Driving forward, having made over time, the corrections to those, you know, I said I look at my life and where the straw dog was. Look, I have no problem being a scientist. I was very successful at being a scientist. I really sucked up personal relationship, uh, at and now I’ve been with my partner Margaret 22 years and as the honeymoon book, uh, emphasizes, it’s been a honeymoon for 22 years. Why I celebrate life every day I wake up and it’s like, oh my God, another day. Do I know what’s going to happen? Nope. Am I afraid? Not really anymore. Because once the fear of death, and this was a real important part, I never followed back up on it when we talked about it. The fear of death as a dry primary directive, uh, the fear, uh, affecting, uh, the biological imperative.
Bruce: When you own that you can’t die, which is owning. It’s not going to church on Sunday and reading in the book. Oh Yeah, look, I’m a spirit or whatever the hell that is. That’s, that’s not living it. If you live it and you recognize that I’m just the spirit in the machine, I’m not the machine, and that reincarnation exists. Biology, belief stuff, uh, uh, then guess what? And, and it happened to me the first instant when I realized that consciousness of this moment of owning spirituality, not talking about spirituality, but saying, oh my God, I’d see how it works. There’s a mechanism why two plus two was four. I am not in this body. The moment that that hit me, my life was boom, and you know what was interesting guy was, I didn’t realize this until that moment that it happened. I got lighter life all of a sudden just got wider and I go, what was it?
Bruce: I realized that because I mentioned it earlier, do you know how much processing time it takes to watch everything in the field that you’re, that could scare you. Your brain is working all the time, not calling up and saying, Bruce Willis and I’m scanning for all the scary things. It doesn’t say that it just scans and works and pays attention to everything. I said, what happens if you let go of that and all of a sudden I say all that energy that was going on, I’m not going to do that. All of a sudden it’s like I just got boosted with energy. Why? The fear was ridiculous. All it did is it scared me. I, you know, it was the nightmare. He stuff and it’s like, Hey, if I die I die. You know, but I’m not that afraid of the death that then my former life had become.
Bruce: Because if you think life is all you’ve got is right at this moment, then the fear of death is, I understand it. I lived it. You need it will and I ain’t going. Now it won’t end and I’ll be back and all of a sudden it’s like, oh, cool. Uh, and I think this is one of the important parts of the evolution that we have to face right now because of the primal fears, the fear of mortality. And if that primal fear disappears, then that all of a sudden frees up your life to start to enjoy something rather than to be looking for the thing that’s going to hit you on the hat.
Guy: Yeah. Love it, Bruce. Love it. Hi, I’m, I’m going to ask you a couple of questions. I ask everyone on the show and uh, I’m whatever comes to mind. It can be long, showed answers, doesn’t matter. Um, first one is what’s been a low point in your life you’ve had, but later in life turned out to be a blessing.
Bruce: I though the low point in my life was when I was trying to control it, my mind and the more effort I was putting in, like when I was a research scientist at Stanford when I first started, because people anticipate, look, I’m, I, I got picked up on this wonderful grant to be a research scientist and I go in there and then, you know, it’s like I’ve got to produce and I was trying to make things and at some point I just got frustrated when I said, I can’t do this. It’s not working. That was almost suicidal. Okay. Why? My whole career is ended. I can’t do the science was what I was doing. It’s not working and I’m trying harder and harder and harder and it’s working less than last time. The last one, it was like, and there was this point, okay, I’ve got some money left on the grant.
Bruce: I can be here, you know, in California, which I liked, uh, being an east coaster. And I said, oh, okay, well I let go. I said, well, I might as well enjoy this. I’ll figure out my life after a couple of months, you know, a few more months on the grant and the part was the moment, let’s just forget about it, forget about it. Uh, was the moment that then things started working and then, you know, and so let me add this. Why would that happen? One, how come I, when I was working so hard it wasn’t working. Okay. And the answer is this, whether you’re trying to lose weight, trying to find a relationship, doing a job, and you’re working harder and it’s not working. I realized this, I have, you have to stop right at this moment. First question, why are you working so hard on this? And I go, first thought behind the working hard was it’s not gonna happen, so I’m going to make it happen.
Bruce: So I said, so what’s the first thought? Not The thought. I’m working on it. No, the first thought, it’s not going to happen. That’s why I’m working so hard. And it was like, Oh my God, I’m starting with the premise is not going to work. Where the hell is the direction? Where do you think it’s going to go if consciousness says it’s not gonna work, uh, you know, this is going to manifest. And I started to realize, oh my God, working harder just means you have less belief. It’s gonna manifest. That’s the reason why you work harder. I should. Yeah. So what’s going to succeed? The working harder part or the belief behind it that it’s not going to work. That’s why I’m working hard in the answers. The one behind because that’s the primary one. The working harder as a consequence of that belief.
Bruce: So when I said let me have this guy, this is a great sentence cause it’s only like little sentence but powerful. So then I’ll explain it the sentence simply this, what is the function of the mind to create coherence between our beliefs and our reality. So we have beliefs every day and thank God. Guess what? The world pretty much conforms to our beliefs because what if you woke up in every belief you had that day doesn’t seem like, you know, the sun came up on the other side and just everything went upside down and what the hell is this? I be crazy, but we’re not crazy because guess what? Our beliefs manifest and then we say, yeah, I knew that was going to happen. I was like, okay, then that’s no surprises here. And so the function of the mind is to take the belief and turn into reality.
Bruce: It doesn’t make a difference that as a positive or negative belief nature, no, the function doesn’t ask positive, negative says whatever I held. The belief is, so if my belief is I’m gonna make this work, but for the reason is because I don’t think it’s going to work, then the answer is, is not going to work. Because the making of work is not the belief. It’s the one that preceded that. And so people out there, when you’re struggling on something, the reason you’re struggling is you’re trying to get to an end that your program doesn’t support. And when you change the program, the end will manifest without any effort. That’s the coolest part of all. Because when the belief is open to the success, you don’t even have to go out the door just to open the door and everything will be at your front door when your program to fail, which most of us are, then you go through that line pushing and struggling, going to find where you’re going to succeed.
Bruce: And I go, you can’t get there because the program has already said you’re not gonna make it. And it’s like, oh wow. And all of a sudden then my life did change so profoundly that um, struggle. I don’t know. I mean everything I want works. That’s a very important point. But let me tell you why that’s important. When it doesn’t work, it doesn’t mean I can’t have something. It just means the way I’m going it, I’m not likely to find it. So it’s basically saying, don’t do it this way and yet what do we do when it doesn’t work? We just put more effort into making it work and it’s like, no, no, you stop. It said, it’s not working. Stop, you’ve got to go this way at this point. So, uh, I learned a lot and um, you know, uh, and, and this was, um, the reason, uh, one of the primary reasons of writing the book, the biology of belief that one of the primary reasons at this point was it works. And I was the least, the least believer of all this. I didn’t believe in spirituality. I don’t believe in any of this stuff. But when the cells taught me and I stopped long enough, as I said, to engage what they taught me, then the manifestation of life changed at that point. It’s like, wow, different front line,
Guy: beautiful bruise. I reckon everyone to listen to those then can so relate to that. Um, if you could have dinner with anyone tonight, from any timeframe, anywhere in the world, who would it be, do you think? And why? Albert Einstein. Okay,
Bruce: I’ll rise time. Because not only was he so brilliant, but he was a human. He had a human life and human feelings and human stuff like that. And they laughed. And uh, and he was, he was a real person. But with a blow up mine like that. Uh, and just to be in the presence of that energy, I would feel just like, aw, you know, sunbathing, uh, topics sitting in front of the Albert Einstein.
Guy: Amazing, amazing. And um, is there anything else you’d like to add to our listeners today? Of all the things we covered? Four. Yes.
Bruce: I think the most important thing is this. We can change those beliefs. And I said, what’s your beliefs? I said, well, look at your life and where you’re struggling. That’s a belief because you already know what the destination you want. So here’s the cool part. If you already know the destination, then you must know the belief that you want to have that destination and a difference from the belief you’ve already been programmed with. So the point about it exists, do I have to go to a psycho analysis to change my life? I go, no, you, all you have to do is just be observant of your life and you know what you want to change. And then I say, well, how do you change it then this very quickly. So it’s just a intro. Um, the, their mind is not the mind. The mind is two minds, conscious and subconscious, and the difference between them as this subconscious as the original brain that we got through all the lower organisms coming up.
Bruce: But when we got to a human, we started to get a big brain part sticking out behind your forehead, called the prefrontal Cortex, the extension of the brain, right behind the forehead, the center of consciousness. I said, okay, so wait, what’s the difference? Conscious versus the previous subconscious? I go, ah, subconscious is the habit. Mind. Animals have habits. People have habits, habits, or repetition of a program. Push the button. Play. The program habits, uh, are designed not to be changed easily because if it wasn’t a habit, I mean, if it changed fast, so it wouldn’t be a habit, you know, they go, oh, switching from day to day. No, no habits stay the way they are. You put effort in to change a habit. Conscious mind is creative. That’s the one that makes us different than lower organisms cause it has wishes and desires and everything you want.
Bruce: That I think, I tell me what you want from your life. The answer is going to come from creative conscious mind visualizing. So I said, yeah, and then I said that earlier. I said, yeah, but subconscious mind is running 95% of the time because conscious mind can think and that’s how much time we spend thinking. So our life is coming from subconscious program. You want to change the program and go, well that was the difficult part because while the conscious mind’s creative can learn just from listening to what we’re talking about, reading a self help book, going to lecture, workshop anyway you want subconscious mind does not learn in that fashion. And that’s why the biggest problem we have is because we keep educating the conscious mind, new facts, new ideas, new awareness. Oh my God, I listen all this stuff. I got it, I got it.
Bruce: I go, where do you got it? Conscious mind. I go, so what? I say, you’re not operating from conscious mind. You’re operating from subconscious mind set. The damn thing didn’t go into the subconscious. It’s a wasted opportunity at that moment. Okay. So then I say, oh, how do you put something into this guff counters mine. And I go, okay, this has been the problem. Uh, and first of all, let me just say subconscious mind gets a bad rap because of a all the psycho analysis crap that says, so that’s where all the evil comes from. And it’s like subconscious mind is a cold machine. It’s a record playback device. Is your CD player eval? I know it depends on the program you put in side. And I say yeah, because the conscious, the subconscious mind’s got fabulous programs. Uh, when did you learn how to walk before you were too?
Bruce: Did you ever have to relearn? No. Well thank God you got a subconscious mind because it’s been holding that pattern of walking since you were two and you can be a hundred years, still can walk. So I’d say, yeah. So if you put good programs and it’s great, you put bad programs and that’s not great. You know, I said it was so now we’re coming down change program. I go, ah, well first of all, there’s nobody in the subconscious mind. And yet you say, why am I saying that? And I, I laugh about it because how many people, including myself, would talk to myself like change his behavior. Bruce, come on Trey. You know, keep talking to myself. Changes, behavior changes behavior and nothing happens. It doesn’t change. Then you get frustrated with yourself. Like, Oh, I’m so stupid. I keep doing the same thing over again.
Bruce: I go, what were you talking to when you want to change that? I’m talking to the subconscious. I go, there’s nobody in there so you could talk to your blue in the face. That’s not how it learns. It’s just a, how’s it learn now is that three different ways. First two are natural. The first way it learned was a hypnosis. A child’s mind is in a subconscious is a vibration called Fado wires on the head. Eeg data vibration is imagination. And that’s how kids can mix real world and imaginary world. Uh, they have a tea party and they pour nothing into the cup and they drank the nothing. And then it was like, that’s the best teacher I ever had in my life. Or the horse is really a broom, but it’s not a broom because now it’s a horse, uh, imagination. But it’s also fade as hypnosis.
Bruce: So the first seven years we got programs without even consciousness being involved because whatever was coming in in the first seven years was going straight in subconscious programming. Seven years. That’s what the Jesuits, no, give me a child until it’s seven. So I say, okay, so you want to do hypnosis? You have to do a hypnotherapist. No, no. You have to recognize this, uh, at work. EEG wires on head high vibration called Beta come home. Relax. Vibration goes slower. Now it’s called Alpha. That’s calm consciousness. And just as you go to bed calm consciousness alpha, the vibration goes lower than outfit. That’s called theta. So what does that mean? Well, Alpha consciousness is disconnected. You just fell asleep. Yeah, but now the vibration stated. What’s that? Oh, that’s hypnosis. Oh. So you put earphones on when you go to bed and the moment conscious checks out into sleep zone, whatever’s playing on that program is going straight into subconscious so that you can do self hypnosis.
Bruce: I put in programs of wishes and desires that you would like to manifest a sell them for every wish and desire. And every night just put the earphones on as you go to bed. And after a number of nights, which is variable a, guess what the program went in when you were sleeping, you didn’t even work on it. But once it’s in 95% of your life will come from that program. So that’s the value of it. Okay. So I say the first seven years hypnosis and you could do self hypnosis and I said, then what happens after age seven? I go, oh, we learned programs then by repetition practice, you want to play an instrument. So conscious idea. I want to play an instrument. Yeah. But not until the subconscious gets the programming of how to play the instrument. Brass, piano, drums, whatever it is. You have to practice.
Bruce: You want to drive a car. My side, I’m going to drive the car, but you better go in and practice how to drive a car. So the second way of learning is repetition. Practice, uh, was a new wage phrase there, which I think is kind of interesting. It says fake it till you make up, uh, and basically says, if you’re not happy, I said, yeah, so what? So what if I every day, every moment that I can remember I say to myself, I am happy, I am happy, I am happy, I go. But apparently you’re not having to say it does make a difference. I am happy is being repeated. Repetition many times a day as you can say it and guess what? Habituation is repetition. So there is a point. Guess what you kept saying I am happy. Then there’s a day you wake up, you don’t even have to say it, why you woke up happy?
Bruce: I said I have to have, did that happen? I go once the program is in the function of the mind is to manifest the program. So you work in the beginning to say I am happy, that’s my work. But once the program is in beautiful part, never have to work on again the rest of your life. Once the program is in there is going to stay in there. And if you didn’t like the way you programmed it, guess what? Go back and reprogram it cause you can do it as many times you won a race, new program, race, new program. So the two natural ways are hypnosis, repetition and that’s the natural way. Now there’s a third way and it’s new and I want people that are interested in and to look on my website, which is simply Bruce lipton.com under resources, I have about 25 different, uh, what are called energy psychology modalities.
Bruce: A description of each and you could identify one that appeals to you and then there’s a website and you go deep into it. But these new technologies are almost like a super learning process and you go super learning. I go maybe seeing somebody in the bookstore read a book by moving their finger down the page as fast as they are. Just here’s a whole page, move my finger. I just read the page. Ah, that’s super wary. I say. Yeah, but if you can engage super learning and use that for programming, once you have the belief you want to put in the system, it could happen in less than 15 minutes. You can rewrite a belief, but it involves a super learning. You have to be in that super learning mindset, which is each one has its own version. So there are three ways to change a program.
Bruce: First one is a hypnosis. That’s the way we got the programs, the first place. The second one is repetition, which happens any program after age seven. And the third one is the new version called energy psychology, which engages a super learning process where you can download new beliefs in a short period of time. Uh, and this is important. And the main reason why I’m saying this again is talking to ourselves is, is frustrating because you can keep talking and nothing will ever change. And nobody’s listening that way and we want to change. So what have we done in the last bit of time here guys? A, I said, what’s your program? Look at your life, if you understand what you’re missing, you already know what you want. So that becomes the program you’re seeking. And that’s the program that using any of these three modalities you can download. And once they’re downloaded, and this was again the fun part, there’s an effort to put it into the system, but once it’s in the system thought amatic cause it’s been automatic for how many years for you now. It’s kind of the automatic then too. And that’s the cool part. He says you put the African in the front and the rest of it on false for the rest of your life.
Guy: Yeah, I love it. I’m so glad you clarified that at the end of the first as well. Bruce, that makes total sense for everyone. That’s beautiful mate. Um, so everyone listening to this Bruce lipton.com and there’s photos slash resources as well, right? Yes. The resources. Yeah. Amazing. And of course I, if anyone gets any questions they can drop me an email and I’ll help point them in the right direction anyway. Great. Bruce, I love everything you do. You’ll work is amazing. I remember reading your book biology belief back in 2008 and trying to get my head round it for the first time, thinking, what the hell is this guy on about? And then I rewrite it and, and it’s really been a pivotal point in my life of, of opening me up to look at this work, uh, which has changed my life over the years. So everything that you talk about and share is greatly appreciated and thanks for coming on today mate.
Bruce: I want to thank you for, for, for getting there so you could take power over your own life. And I want to thank you for the opportunity to talk to this community because in the state of chaos at the world is in right now. The answer is, do I have to live in an answer is no, because that’s your programming to be part of it. What have you reprogram? You can have another world right in the middle of all of this chaos and that’s what we’re looking for.
Guy: It’s like the biggest secret nobody knows about and it’s just got to get it out there. Exactly. Thank you, Bruce.
Bruce: Thank you guys, so I appreciate it. Thank you.