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Guy: [00:00:00] Open my eyes and I look on the floor and I see this pendant just sitting between my feet and she picks it up and she brings it and she shows me and it’s Mary Magdalene. And I’m like, “no F*$%^&G way.” Wow. The next day we held another workshop in Newcastle from Sydney. The lady on the microphone shares to me and she said, “oh, Mary Magdalene came to me.”

And I’m like, “okay, this is ridiculous.” I. So I’d do it a Thursday, Saturday like that and then Sunday and, and then I have my energy with Sarah on Tuesday. She said, I feel I need to draw a card for you when you leave and I’ll text it to you. She’s next to me. The card that she drew, Mary Magdalene. wow.

 Guy: The episode you’re about to watch has been republished. My podcast channel reaches a lot more people now and there’s certain episodes that have slipped under the radar and I wanted to bring them up for your attention ’cause I truly feel they are worth listening to. [00:01:00] So please be sure, let me know where you think of this episode in the comments below.

And of course, let’s continue to connect. Let me know where you are in the world and where you’re listening and tuning in from. Uh, I love reading it. It’s amazing, isn’t it, that we can do this. And the other thing I wanna say as well is find out where we are. If you wanna put your spiritual boots on and come and join us at one of our five day retreats or one day events around the world, links are below as well.

If you wanna find out more what we’re up to. Much love from me. Enjoy.

Guy: Heather, welcome back to the podcast.

Heather: It’s a joy to be here again, Guy. Thanks for having me back.

Guy: You’re very welcome. the success of the first episode, um, which was released quite a number of months ago now, uh. What I think surprised us all then. And there’s a clearly a hunger, and a thirst for people to explore their Akashic records.

And, and I feel that’s where, well, maybe the podcast listeners are at or where the world is at. I don’t know. I, I probably see these [00:02:00] things through bias lens anyway. So, um, we wanted to invite you back onto the show to start to have a deeper discussion around certain questions, questions that I had as well from after having a reading with you and starting to explore that more.

Because when you first came on the podcast, Heather, that was my first experience really, of looking at the Akashic Records. I kind of had a rough idea of what it was, but, um, yeah, that, that was it. So I, I, I always feel like I’m a student and to be able to invite you back on and have a reading from you and an explore is always great.

I don’t know what it was like from your end, from that first podcast.

Heather: Well, I think what is, I mean, I, I don’t speak about this too much, but I think what I enjoy most about the work that I do is that I do get to be the student even while I’m in the seat of the teacher or the facilitator. So even when I am offering in a CIC session, there’s so [00:03:00] many times when new information that’s coming through someone’s records, it’s new to me for the first time as well.

’cause I haven’t perceived what’s coming through in this way before. So I love that I get to be this perpetual student by being, by having the honor of being in someone else’s records. Yeah, it’s so, yeah.

Guy: Yeah. No, fantastic. And I will say to people listening to this as well, this is a standalone episode, but, and the style will be slightly different today ’cause I, I feel it would be more conversational style, where the first podcast we did was me basically interrogating you for an hour and, and, and finding out all about your, your journey, which I, I feel resonated with myself deeply, but also everyone that listened to, uh, as well.

So I encourage people to go back and listen to that. Um, that will compliment this one. And we will cover a little bit of ground just to lead into from what come up of my session and what people can expect as well. But how [00:04:00] would you briefly describe the Akashic records for anyone new? Like what would be the elevator pitch?

That would be the first thing I wanna ask. And then I got a follow up question from that.

Heather: Yeah. So the Akashic records as they stand alone is um, basically a, a timeline of your soul’s history, past, present, and future. And everything that holds a consciousness has Akashic records. So whether we’re talking about living, um, entities like humans and animals and plants, or even, um, things that we don’t normally consider such as businesses or, um, you can go into the caic records of, of a house or even land clearings, even though that’s connected to the earth, which is living.

You can go into planets. Anything that holds a vibrational frequency of consciousness has nsic record connected to it. But the bigger field of the CIA is sort of like the overarching [00:05:00] umbrella of all that is. So we call this the quantum. It includes, right? The sun, the moon, all the stars, everything that exists in this planet, and everything in the universe in as above, so below as within.

So without, that’s, that’s the akasha and it, it translates to space or spirit. So it’s, it’s very broad. It’s, it’s almost daunting to consider. And then even when you pare it down into your own ACIC record, when you start to think that every single action thought or deed that you have has a vibrational frequency that is in a sense recorded into the quantum field.

That also starts to get very daunting because you can start to expand your, your thinking into parallel universes that you might be experiencing. You can go into, um, you know, decisions and choices that you said yes to or no to, but all of that’s record and that’s just in this lifetime. So then if you add all the other lifetimes [00:06:00] before, if you’re open to it, it’s a pretty thick book.

Guy: It’s wild. You’ve already sparked about four questions that’s going off on a complete tangent, but the first one that you, you mentioned like people pointed, well, how can the past, present and future records be a be available to us if we haven’t? Experienced our future yet or lived it.

Heather: So how I understand it is that the future holds the potential.

So it’s when someone comes to me and they’re doing in a csic reading and they’re asking a question about something in the future, what I do share with them is, listen, the future’s not written and it’s filled with potential possibilities. But what usually will come through is what potential holds the most potency, what potential line has the most energy magnetizing towards it?

So that’s the one that I will [00:07:00] share. And sometimes it’s two or three, and sometimes it’s one, and then I just reconfirm. But you’re still sovereign. You have choice. And the moment that you shift your attention in another direction, that’s where the energy is gonna start to flow. So it gives people options to ponder, but we’re never locked into.

This is it and there’s no way to avoid it.

Guy: Got you. Perfect. Because I, I, I think I heard the word probability in terms from a guest once, I think it was Tom Campbell, but spoke about that it’s there, there’s a probability, and as we we draw our attention to it, the probability and likelihood of that occurrence happening for that particular timeline is gonna become more probable, but it’s not.

Yeah.

Heather: I love that word. Yeah, that’s a great word to, to replace with. Yeah. Possibility, probability. Yeah. So what is most probable in this moment? And, and then I will cue someone and, and let them know, like, because I give them the recording at the end of the [00:08:00] session. So if, for example, from the reading that you and I had Guy, if you were making a decision, say six months later, based off something we talked about in our cash session, if you went back and listened to the recording and you’re like, oh yeah, I forgot about that, I’m gonna act on that now it’s, it’s recommended to go back into the records and see if that is still the best course of action because it’s delivered in the present moment.

And so present moment is shifting all the time.

Guy: Wow. Okay.

Heather: Yeah.

Guy: Yeah. That’s pretty neat. It’s neat. So the other, the other thing that you mentioned before, which I, I just wanna bring up to the staff of people as well, is how long have people been accessing these records for? Or have we known there’s been an availability?

’cause you touched on the fact that they, they are becoming more accessible and I want to explore that, what you mentioned when after I had that reading as well.

Heather: Yeah. So that part is, um, so this is fun too. [00:09:00] So certain people are called to work with the Akashic records. To read the Akashic records of the Akashic records.

So when I’m sharing with you that the Akashic records was shut down in, in history for, for a period of, I don’t know how many years, say 500 or a thousand years, it, the Akashic Records was shut, shut down. Because what has been shared with me by my teachers is that it was being abused and it was being, um, mistreated.

So the access to the records was shut down. And only in recent history has it been reopened again. Now, did I personally receive that in the records? No, because how I work with the records is very personal, working with people and, and I work with the Akashic records with individuals. So that is information, and you can see it in some of these different, um, like Edgar Casey books and, and different books that are written on the Akashic records.

They’ll talk about this. Um, so that’s information that I’ve. Um, receive that [00:10:00] I’m sharing and passing along with you, but it’s not something that I’ve directly, um, probed on and asked about in the records themselves. Yeah.

Guy: Yeah. So who my, then my, just, just my logical brain. Who would, would be denying this access?

The field itself. Are there?

Heather: Well, here’s the, here’s the piece that I see, um, when I start to play with people is, so, if in our human history, we have outsourced our access to consciousness, whether it’s internally or externally, whether we wanna be internally accessing God and, and if, if that word’s triggering, use a different one.

Or externally praying to God. We’ve outsourced it to spiritual leaders because that’s what we were taught to do. We were so busy and focused on our survival mechanisms of food, shelter, and warmth that we outsourced our spiritual side because there just isn’t enough time and a day to do it all right? So we take very good care of our monks and our priests and [00:11:00] our priestesses by providing all of their basic needs so that they can spend hours and hours on end communicating and connecting with consciousness.

Now, fast forward to present time, our basic survival skills for most people are taking care of. So we have more freedom to be able to spend time contemplating and meditating with the Kasic field. Now, totally guaranteed. We are distracted by a thousand different things that we do other than that. But the option is there now for us to play with.

And so because of that, the, the. Accessibility is more granted. I think also because we understand on a deeper level how to get into the frequency than we did before.

Guy: There there’s a deeper level of knowledge available to us. Now

Heather: there’s a deeper level, level of knowledge and one of the things like that, I’m just starting to talk about a little bit that, that I [00:12:00] personally get slightly irritated with.

When you look at any like how to a Caic record book, it’s constantly relayed in, in writing. This is so simple. Anyone can do it. All you have to do is A, B, C, or D. And that is true. But when we start to layer in our doubts or fears and our belief systems, the ability for us to access becomes challenging for some, not all.

Some people that I work with, with the records, they’re already in the energetic realm and alls we’re doing is extending the olive branch into the direction of the Akashic records. For others, they have such a yearning and that’s what pulls them in. And it’s so beautiful to witness this because very few people actually act on their yearning.

So anytime I get to see it, it just like lights me up like a Christmas tree because it’s so necessary for our souls. Um, our souls fulfillment in this lifetime is to act on our yearnings and our desires and our wants. So that’s the, the key in. But [00:13:00] then once they’re in the training, there’s so much that we’re doing together to help to lower the part of them that wants to believe that they can’t do it, and how to amplify the part of them that actually signed up because they want to grow and expand.

And what I’ll say to people is like when you come into this training, that part of you that wants to sit and doubt in fear, it gets to be here. That’s totally a part of your makeup. Absolutely. But I can’t speak to it because I will never be able to win the argument against it. It will always have an excuse, a reason, a but to put in there that I can’t argue with.

So when we come into community together, my simple request is that you are leading forward with the part of you that wants to grow and expand. And that’s who I get to talk to in our time together. And then when we agree to do that, it’s really beautiful to see how people unfold and, and are able [00:14:00] to read the the records with ease.

Guy: Wow. That was so beautifully said. I’m, I’m gonna pinch that line what you just said as well at our, at our, uh, one day workshops, because I, you, you just nailed it right there. The, the, the, it’s almost like the intention, the desire, the want to go beyond our li our limitations allows us to take that step forward and we all come up against them at some stage.

But there has to be a point where we take that step where we, we lean into that and acknowledge it, acknowledge the fear, but lean into what, what wants to come forward, which I always feel is from my heart

Heather: Hmm. Not

Guy: my mind. Yeah. Which goes beyond the condition, which knows no boundaries. And if we nurture that aspect, then it become, we, we, we could become our own divine creators that we are all of that potential to be, but we just don’t allow ourselves yet.

Heather: Yeah. It’s like, um, you’re gonna notice that your, your wife hasn’t had her baby yet, has she?

Guy: No.

Heather: Okay. So [00:15:00] there’s this neat thing that happens when you have child number two. When you have child number one. It’s like you think of how much love you have for your partner, and then you have this baby and your heart just expands to this bigger than what you thought was possible space.

And then you hang out and you resonate there with your child. And then when you have your second one, it’s like, I did not even know that there is more room that could grow in my heart to let space in for this other being that now wants to hang out and resonate with me. And what you’re talking about, like the, the limitlessness of the heart space is so fascinating.

And when we, we think of the limitlessness of the, of the mind, like how we’re taught that we use maybe, I don’t know, 10% of our brain and, and the rest of it we’re actually not even accessing. So the heart is more vast than even the vastness of the brain. So when you get to access that with someone and hang out with it, it’s like [00:16:00] absolutely this part of you that’s in resistance.

She or he gets to be here. But you know what, you’ve given them your time and attention for 30 plus years. Put them in the backseat. Let them play with their Legos. Let your sovereign self ride shotgun for a bit. Let them hang out with you. Let them tell you what they’re hungry for and see what it’s like to just be with them for a bit.

And that’s who we hang out with. And then what happens is then the group space, it up levels because everyone’s bringing their higher, highest self forward. So then it creates this beautiful, potent energy to play with all day.

Guy: Yeah. So you, you’re sitting in the, the group energy then itself, right? And, and, ’cause you’ll be running a training in, is it January? Yeah. Yes. January, 2024. I can’t believe I’m nearly at the end of 2023. My, my, my brain is definitely in Babyland as well. Um, so from that then you spoke about there’s different ways of receiving the [00:17:00] Akashic reading. ’cause I’m guessing, obviously we have to get into ourselves into a space to connect with, with intention.

Obviously there’s free will involved Joseph. So is the free will of connecting to my own nasic record or free will is granted from somebody that you’re working with. But as you, as you’re train to learn this, what are the different ways of interpretation and how do we figure that out as humans? Because we tend to receive information differently.

Heather: Yeah. So I, I, I bet you different. Teachers use different techniques. But when I was called to teach others how to access the Akashic records and I was asking the how of it, what came through for me was to work with clear abilities. So the four main Claires that we have are Claire Cognizant, which is your inner knowing.

CLA sentient, which is your feelings, clairvoyant, which is your [00:18:00] inner seeing, and Claire audio, which is the hearing. There’s also Clair Gustin, which is Taste, and C and Claire Leons, which is smell. But I find whenever I’m sort of going, what I do, when I’m what, before anyone comes into a training, I set up, um, a one-on-one session with them and we go through their Claires.

So I, how I do it is I do an energetic body scan, start at the crown of your head. And I did this in our session together, so maybe you can respond to it a bit to, to how it, um, felt when I was pinging it to you. But from the crown of the head, we start to do an energetic body scan downwards. And I’m going through, okay, clear cognizance, what’s coming through?

Is this person receiving through clear cognizance? And if I get a yes. Then I’m also getting information on the how, because people actually access the Claire a little bit differently from one another. And I make notes on this. And I will sort of put like an order of of, of first to third as to what is the [00:19:00] strongest Claire, and then what’s, what’s beneath it and what’s beneath that.

And sometimes Claire’s work in partnership together. That’s another thing to keep in mind. What’s kind of tricky is that when you go into an Akashic training or when I go into the Akashic training itself, because there’s sort of the group poll that will, um, support sort of an upgrade energetically in people.

Sometimes another credibility will pop and become more predominant in the training than the one that was, um, sort of outlined before we started. So I’m just, it’s kind of a guideline, but it’s not an absolute, if you will. And then when I’m, when I’m working, I’m, I’m, I. If someone’s having trouble with an exercise that we’re doing, I will look and see, okay, this person is CLA sentient, so I’m gonna be asking them like, what is it that you’re feeling when you’re asking that question?

What does it feel like to be in this person’s records? Where do you feel that kinesthetically? Is it in your fingertips? Is it a whole body? [00:20:00] And so by them, then they’re like, oh, this is so natural to me. So they respond in, in their sort of natural tongue, their native tongue, if you will, through their CLA ability.

But if someone’s clairvoyant, and I’m asking them how they’re feeling, they’re gonna get confused because they’re gonna be like, I’m not really feeling anything. And then they think that they can’t do it. And that’s not true. It’s just that I’m not accessing from the, the, the telephone line that’s most predominant within them.

So then I’ll be asking them, okay, are you getting any pictures, any visuals? Does it come in sharp and quick and you lose it right away? Or does it sort of like a, a painting that’s slowly being painted in as you linger in the field? So there’s different ways that we play with it that way.

Guy: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

This, it is almost like there’s, um, what I find when working in groups, um, is that there’s a level of awareness that gets heightened to then have an experience because of the group, the, the lift of the group [00:21:00] energy. But then we have a new reference point. We kind of know what we’re then looking for. ’cause we’ve actually experienced it in the lift.

That’s how I’ve sort of found my way through in time by being in, in groups. And that’s why I’m so passionate about holding groups together myself with the work we do. And then from that, when I’m actually outta that group and I’m in my own little space with the practice, there’s a reference point that I can develop that muscle to develop the awareness to access it not from the head, if that makes sense.

That’s what I, that’s what I found on my journey.

Heather: So can you give me just to, so that I can be sure that I’m following along, can you give me an example of how that is in the group space? Like what would be happening in the moment that you’re feeling and sensing and then expanding into

Guy: Oh, now you’re opening up.

Yeah. Well, more lately it’s been from [00:22:00] working with. At Divine Source. And so there’s a, there’s a, there’s a level of energy that starts to come through and f from that level of energy within the group, I can feel my, my, my Taurus field, I can feel the expansion. So it’s like I’m in my body, I’m beyond my body.

And that alone of that sense and, and being able to, and I feel there’s a, um, there’s been a relationship with my, my physical body muscle. For it to become comfortable enough to go, it’s safe, it’s okay when it comes up against its limitations to settle in. So through being through that group, being feeling into the group energy, distinguishing boundaries between my energy and the groups, it’s that that has been a development for myself and I can sense it and I’m in it.

So even then, when I’m in my everyday life, I tend to hold [00:23:00] that resonance. Providing. I keep the practices at a, at a, a much more conscious level, and my boundaries become very clear and set within my world as if I, as I go around. And that becomes much more a conscious, but then it becomes, uh, um, a habit at the same time.

Heather: Hmm.

Guy: Does that make sense?

Heather: Yeah, it does. It’s, it’s a, it’s really nice the way you, you shared the description of it. It’s, it’s almost like, um, you can recall it on, not on demand, but almost in the moment because you have an energetic imprint of it. So you know what it feels like. You know what it’s, what, how, how it landed in that moment in the group space, and then you recall it to come in and kick in the same way, like if you isolate the hamstring when you’re at the gym and then you’re trying to make your hamstring come online when you’re running, you can feel into the muscle memory of what it feels like to flex that hamstring and ask it to kick in.

[00:24:00] Right.

Guy: Right, exactly. And it becomes a spontaneous thing. And, and what’s what’s been really neat, and I I I’m slowly starting to talk about it more on a podcast, but I haven’t, is that then through when you, when you hold a, a, a really pure intention for a group or an energy, that the, that energy wants to flow more and more within and merge with the group collective energy.

And I always see it as, uh, coherence. So there’s, there’s, um, a wonderful little YouTube video out there somewhere where you see all these, um, like pendulums, just all incoherently ticking, and then eventually they become a coherent group where they’re all, um, um, ticked together. And, and I always see that in, in, in the space, our whole, because then that’s amplifying the energy even more.

That really allows us to get beyond ourselves and starts to re reveal the truths that we want to lean into. [00:25:00] And within myself then, so once that, that, that divine intention of, of, I guess the, we’re trying to find the right words here, but the, the raising the vibration for the whole group with the, with the, the, I guess the most honest intentions for everyone to, to allow themselves to heal aspects of themselves that might have been beyond their awareness.

Then what is happening is that other non-physical beings, however you want to word it, start to want to support that intent from that, and then you can start to develop your relationship with them and with free will that will then start working with you as a conduit to support the group, which has just been absolutely beautiful and mind blowing at the same time.

And very um. Yeah, almost like a, a new rabbit hole. It comes [00:26:00] from that, that you continue to explore and learn from. And that’s been very interesting as well because again, it starts turning what might be metaphors or words or labels or belief systems or what spoken in texts and books for millennia. Once they start to become direct experiences that are within your internal world, nobody can, that’s your truth then.

And nobody can take that away from you. And as you lean into that and honor that, um, it just continues to open up Well, what’s possible that like, it feels like it’s, it’s never ending. And just when you think you are, you are, you are like, oh yeah, I’m, I’m getting the hang of this. Then there’s a whole new chapter emerges and I have no doubt those chapters just continue to go move on and move on and move on.

And when you’re, when you’re touched in such a way like that. It really does. Um, you can’t [00:27:00] unknow then what that knowing and it, and it does something. So for me, it is just made me so, I don’t know, um, grateful for everything that I have. Like you start to really live for the moment and soak up the life that’s happening now as opposed to the, the striving, the pushing and the chasing of something, which we say we don’t do, but we inherently do quite a lot of the time.

Yeah.

Heather: Well said.

Guy: Yeah. Thank you.

Heather: There’s a neat, um,

uh, yeah. When you say, when you know, and you, and you can’t unknow, I oftentimes talk about it in, you know, when you pass through the gate. This is why we have sovereignty. This is why we have free will, because. The freq, I call ’em the frequencies. I mean, people speak of them as archangels and, and all the rest of it [00:28:00] ascended, masters, teachers, guides.

But at the end of the day, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s not so much a persona but a frequency. It’s aware that there’s consequence to our choice, right? Mm-hmm. And so some of those consequences are beautiful, like you just described, and some of them can be uncomfortable, right? So as we start to grow and expand in a certain way, we oftentimes outgrow certain friendships or jobs or relationships.

And so because there’s this understanding that when you pass through the gate, there’s no going back. This is why we always get to have this choice and the sovereignty and this, this ability to, to say yes or no to it, and. What you just described is the beautiful, benign, positive consequence of saying yes.

Even though we don’t know the how, how am I gonna [00:29:00] be able to hold the capacity for the amount of energy that wants to come in and, and support this group? Oh, I don’t have to, boom, I got this thing, this frequency that I can lean into and it now has my back while I have the group’s back. And it creates almost like this Russian doll.

Mm-hmm. Right. It’s neat. It’s beautiful.

Guy: Yeah. Yeah, it is beautiful. And uh, just to speak to that point, you know, there’s, there’s, I. There’s been a huge amount of growth for me in my journey and still can use the growth where I’ve had to sit in it, that discomfort mm-hmm. Where I’ve had to lean into and let go of the things or people that I’m, that no longer we’re on the, not on the same resonance, let’s say.

There, there’s, it’s not what my heart is calling forward, and there’s been a lot of shedding and deep sadness and loneliness and, and places where I’ve been. But I guess getting to a point where allowing and accepting those things and, and that’s when the, the healing of those parts start to, to [00:30:00] come on and it’s a journey and, um, but I’m, I’m certainly grateful for all the wisdoms now, even though I’d hit eject button at the time when they, when they’re happening to get me out of there sometimes when you feel it.

Yeah. But, yeah. So from that then, just to explore the, the reading a little bit more. And to support people as well listening. When you, what did you know, and I’m happy for you to talk about aspects of myself with the, with the field. Like how do you read people, what is your strongest, um, way? Cla Claire of receiving that information?

Yeah, yeah. Cler ability. Yeah.

Heather: Uh, clear Cognizance is my strongest and Claire Sentient is quite close behind. So what happens for me is, um. So we, we, I use mantras and different, um, yeah. Mantras is how [00:31:00] I describe them. On, on when I’m working with a record. So I have an opening mantra to open someone’s record.

I have a closing mantra, and then I have several mantras that I can use as agencies of support once I’m in there. So the reason why I love Mantra is because when we work with Mantra, we’re not just pulling in our own, uh, request to connect to the frequency that we’re, um, intending to work with. But we call in the thousands and millions and billions of people before us that have sung the same song.

And so it amplifies the, uh, the access to what it is that we’re working with. This is why when you stand in a stadium and you start singing your national anthem, it gets emotional because it’s not just you and all the people around you singing This anthem has been sung forever or Amazing Grace or different, um, you know, mantras that we use in, in [00:32:00] yoga.

These have a frequency that pulls in all the others that have sung it before us. So even when I repeat my mantra, it’s different from, um, say Linda Howe, who’s another kasik, uh, record teacher. But the intention is all the same. I’ve looked at ones from Australia and ones from Europe and ones that are, um, in Mandarin, and they all have the same intention.

Just the words are a little bit different. So it pulls that in. So, number one, what I use mantra, because it just helps me to have a direct line to be able to access someone’s records. And when I do training, some people will say, you know, I’m kind of choking on some of the languaging. You know, can I, can I shake it up a bit and put my own words in?

And my response is, while we’re in training, I ask that you keep the mantra the same, because it keeps the, the frequency consistent with everyone. And once you’re done training, you know, the, the, the, the, the tethers are loose. And [00:33:00] if you wanna adjust it, you can. So that’s the first piece is that I get settled.

I do a small tune in. Um, I always do a banishment mantra. It just, um, it’s not always to like push out the dark, scary energies that are orbiting, but it, it also just. Decreases the scattered energy that we collect throughout our days, right? So this is why we love to shower at the end of a work day. And we like to change our clothes and we like to really make that transition from work to home is because we don’t wanna take on our work life back into our evenings when we’re at home with our families.

So the same is true when I open up someone’s records, I wanna make sure that we’re not bringing in any straggling energy, any stagnant energy, anything that’s just kind of a loafer hanging around. So I banish, I do it with conviction ’cause that’s important. And then I open the records. And when I open the records, there’s always a felt sense of someone’s frequency.

I call it like a GPS or a radio frequency. Everyone [00:34:00] has their own frequencies. Um, meditators will talk about the breath being someone’s GPS, right? Everyone breathes slightly different from each other. And so that’s your own signature, um, frequency. So there’s always a felt sense when I open up someone’s record.

So I will describe it to them. What I’m feeling is different than how I feel when I’m in my own body. So I’m just languaging it when I open up your records. I feel, um, a very quick, um, rising up action in my body, which gives me, um, the information that you’re currently on an ascension, you’re on an uplift, and it’s very fast and very quick.

Or when I open up your records, it’s very gentle, it’s very soft, it’s very pleasant. It feels almost like a horizon line expanding. So people’s records open differently. Number one, and how I’m able to describe it is just because I’ve done this enough that I have the contrast from multiple other people to be able to [00:35:00] know that Guy’s records feel different than when I open up Cindy’s than when I open up John’s right from there.

So that’s a little bit of Claire sentient I’m feeling into their frequency. Then usually after that there’s information that’s sitting there and that comes through clear cognizance for me. So there’s, there’s information messages, if you will, but that kind of sometimes can get convoluted. So I just like to say information, it’s information that’s sitting there that I, that I will just share as it’s coming through.

And what’s fun is that, you know, when you’re describing in the group space how you can feel the energy and the hum of the group, and then you’re pulling in, um, energies from other frequencies and it’s, it’s creating sort of this soup when I open up someone’s records, it’s like I’m the, the reason why this is so fascinating for me, I’m curious by nature.

I love to get to know people and this gives me an opportunity to kind of be inside someone’s space and [00:36:00] experience it. Yeah. So if someone’s like a really slow talker, I talk slower when I’m in their records. If someone’s a really fast talker and they’re very intelligent and they move really quickly, I’m oftentimes gasping for air because I’m speaking so fast when I’m in their records.

Um, if someone’s like, clairvoyant, this is how my own clairvoyance has sharpened by being in other people’s records and experiencing a little bit of their records through clairvoyance. So I’m describing what’s coming through clairvoyant, even though that’s not my main cla. So it’s helping me to curate and cultivate my own clairvoyancy.

Super fun. And then as we start to like dive in, then it starts to get very organic. So I, I will oftentimes let people know, like when I first open your records, I’ll describe it to you. If there’s information there, I’ll share it with you. And then what eventually happens is it kind of goes quiet. And that’s my cue that everything that was just sitting on the cusp and wanted to come through [00:37:00] has done so.

And now I’m kind of turning it over to the, to the individual. And it’s their opportunity to come forward and be like, okay, I booked the session because I’m curious about this. I’m wanting information about that. And they start to ask their questions. And so I let those come in and I’ll, I’ll let you know that when I first started, I didn’t even give space for this Guy because I was too, um, self-conscious or I had too much doubt and fear that if someone asked a question, the answer wouldn’t come in.

So when I first started readings with people, I wouldn’t even give them opportunity to ask questions. What I would do is I would open their records, I’d describe what was there, and then I would do that energetic body scan from the crown of the head downwards and. That would, I would, I would allow that to take the hour and that would be the time that we would have.

And then possibly at the very end, they could sneak a question in or two, but I was too, um, I just didn’t trust that I would be able to actually receive answers to the [00:38:00] questions. So then, so, so now I can, ’cause I’ve been doing it enough. So they’ll ask questions. And what’s fun is, this is really interesting for people to learn as well, is that we oftentimes relate silence to disconnection.

And what happens for me in the records is when I get, when someone asks a question and it’s radio silence, I interpret that as a number of different things. One, the, the question that you’re asking is irrelevant. You don’t need to know the answer to that at this time. Or is the question being asked clearly?

Am I confusing? Field by asking maybe three questions in one question. So can I ask the question a different way? And third, I will, um, look at just clearing static distortion and interference. Just like, kind of like putting a cut through what we’re doing and just really, um, almost like the, the, the ginger you have after the wasabi when you eat sushi before you have the next [00:39:00] piece.

It’s that little bit and it just clears it. And then we can ask the question again and sometimes the answer will come in that way. But for me, radio silence is never like, oh, woe was me. I can’t get information to it. Yeah. And when, yeah.

Guy: Yeah,

Heather: yeah. And when people learn that, they get excited because it just redirects all their past programming of when they’ve tried to do anything like this in the past and they haven’t gotten what they wanted and they’ve just assumed that they weren’t good enough or, or weren’t like, worthy enough to, to, to play and dance with the field.

Guy: Absolutely. And it, it, it’s also good practice to act articulate what what it is you’re actually asking. ’cause quite often we’re in our heads so much that when we try to verbalize something, we can’t even find the words because we we’re still floating amongst all our other feelings and thoughts and, and everything, and kind of helps us hone in what it is, which for me is then becomes a greater intent behind something which has more power.

[00:40:00] Mm-hmm. Question I had for you then, which I, I have no doubt will come up because it kind of comes up what with what we do as well sometimes is about taking on other people’s energy. It was, was, is it, is it concerns about it? You know, things like that because you are working so intimately really with other people’s.

Fields.

Heather: Yeah. So my, um, Claire Sentient are usually my individuals that have to, um, be very conscientious of their boundaries the most. Um, they’re usually like feeling other, so we do have good conversation in the training, just about boundaries. Okay. How to,

Guy: yeah,

Heather: how to have boundaries, whether they’re energetic, personal, or in relationship.

So that conversation comes up. Uh, what I recommend when, um, when people are doing sessions is that when a session’s done, first of all, this is why we have a clothing mantra. I can physically feel and sense and know when I’ve closed someone’s records, all of their tethers are going back to them. And I’m not [00:41:00] holding on anything energetically.

What, um, disappoints people a lot is that when I do in a cash session, I. The session’s not for me, it’s for the the other. So I don’t retain a lot of what comes through in the session. So when people do it over Zoom, I give them the recording and, and they’re great. But I’ve had people come into my office and they’ll say, you know, if you want to voice memo and record the session, you can.

And they say, oh no, it’s okay. And then they’ll text me afterwards and say, can you give me, you know, the details about A, B, C, or D? And I’m like, I don’t have them ’cause it’s not mine. And I haven’t held onto it and I don’t actually recall it. And this is why I suggested that maybe you voice memo it when you come in.

So I do my very best not to, um, to, to make someone else’s, um, information mine. Um,

Guy: yes,

Heather: but. Even in the group space it there, I do take breaks. Like when we take breaks, I will close all the records [00:42:00] when we take breaks so that people get a full rest when we have a break and their records aren’t staying open.

Uh, and then, yeah, like I do find a lot of people pre-training when I’m doing like that, that private session, to just assess their clear abilities. If someone has boundary work that needs to be cleaned up a little bit before starting, I’ll give them some tips on what they can do between that session and the time that we start.

Yeah. ’cause it is important. It’s a really good point that you’re making. And personally I’ve had to reduce, like I used to have my schedule set up so I could have up to four sessions a day and it’s too exhausting for me. So two or three is my max now. Yeah,

Guy: yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta have work-life balance, that’s for sure.

Heather: Yeah, I mean, uh, like you, I go home and, and you know, the other job starts, I got three little rascals at home and a husband that works outta town a lot. So, yeah, it’s full on for sure.

Guy: Yeah, totally. Yeah. And, and I wanna, I, I just wanna raise this point ’cause I haven’t even spoke to you about it [00:43:00] yet, and which I just, I, I just always find this quite mind blowing and, and intriguing was with my back.

So you, I dunno if you remember Yeah. The occurrence of what happened. So just for our listeners, you know, I’m, I’m, I played rugby from the age of six till I was 21, very physical sport. And from about 15 years old, if I recall. Trying to think back, recollecting it, I, I always struggled with back pain and it’s plagued me my entire life really.

Like, I’ve always been in and outta seeing physio, Cairo. I had scans when I was younger and I just put it down to rugby and things. But as I’ve explored myself more and more, I’ve become more and more open to, it has to be more than just some physical injury. There, there there’s a, there is a deep lesson here for myself and, and the one thing I’ve kind of been leaning into, I.[00:44:00]

Interestingly with my back pain, the more people I started working in front of, ’cause some of the groups have been up to a hundred people now in one day, and we do that over two days. So two different sets of a hundred. The my back pain would increase. So as I was leading into the group energies through the week, and you’d know about the, the, you know, if you just start tuning into what’s coming, there would always be this fragility to the point.

Sometimes I’ve gotten on the airplane where I can hardly move, wow. My back. And Matt would ring me up who run the workshops with going, are you, are you right there? Old man you’d always gimme some, can you bend? Are you gonna make it? Kind of thing. And it’s like, so it is been a real, um, opportunity for me to explore what aspects of myself am I missing or what am I, what am I not seeing here in terms of me holding boundaries?

’cause this has been a weakness. And from the workshops and [00:45:00] retreats, I always, uh, have a energy healing session. I work with a particular lady, she’s amazing. And it’s kind of like giving back to myself where I can, I can just let go and be held. And, um, interestingly that’s developed my, my awareness as she’s working.

I’m working with her and I’m feeling others coming in. I’m working. It’s just quite extraordinary actually. Mm-hmm. So those happened and I had an incident, um, with my back where there’s an experience where I was, and this was before our reading of, of slavery, many, many past lives before. And I had this huge heat happen in my back and like, and I really had to allow my body to surrender myself to surrender while it was going on.

And it went for 10 minutes. And there was, they felt like. Something released, which was incredible. But there was still afterwards and weeks integrating it still was pulling on me a little [00:46:00] bit. And then we had the Akashic record and at some off the cuff moment I said, oh, what did the Akashic record have to say?

My about my back, and you didn’t know any of this. And then your reading took me back to slavery and to the point where my back was broken, but my will was not broken. And so, so within that then they held, there was a holding to that incident of not forgiving the perpetrator. So at some aspect there, there was still an energetical bond with that.

And through then the mantra and permission, we. Let that go now. I felt really strange for about three days after our reading, kind of like, oh, just, just getting my way back in my body. But my back since that reading, and then I had one more energy session after the, the [00:47:00] weekend of running workshops just to explore.

That has gone to a new level of freedom that I, I haven’t experienced in quite some time. So I’m, and I’m, and I’m staying humble. I’m not taking any of it for granted because, um, I have no doubt the moment I do so something will gently remind me that I’m in my, in my head, not my heart. So that’s, that’s what’s happened from all that experience.

So it’s been a really, in a real, um, integral piece of my journey. That’s because I’m always open to exploring these things and wanting to learn more, which I, I wanna pass on for everyone listening to this as well. So it’s fascinating what can come out of these, these things if we just explore it.

Heather: I’m just so happy you shared [00:48:00] that experience with me.

There’s this assumption that because someone does something for so long, they’re just a hundred percent like, yeah, I got this right? Mm-hmm. And so you reflecting back your previous experience to Before I tapped into the slavery and then the whole side effect afterwards, it just gives me, this is, this is where the rule’s being flipped here a bit.

It allows me permission to trust even more what comes through the records when I’m reading the records. ’cause even though I’ve been doing this for as long as I have, the human in me is still there. She’s always wondering, is this too much information? Am I tapping into something that they don’t align with, um, spiritually, religiously, uh, is this information gonna be trauma triggering or healing?

There’s always this little niggle that I have when I’m doing readings that I have to, you know, that’s the part of me that I have to put in the [00:49:00] backseat and just trust that what’s coming through is what’s meant to be said. And just to follow the breadcrumbs as I’m going through the records. And it’s just thank you very much for, for actually

Guy: You’re welcome.

Well, I could actually tell you something else that would blow your mind, which I haven’t told you, and I might as well while I’m on a roll from all of this, which I’ve never shared outside of telling my wife the other day, really. And Matt, so when you jumped into the field, you spoke about. Ascended masters and I, and I keep hearing the term coming up, and one in particular mention was Mary Magdalene.

And within my field now I’m like, I know nothing about her. I’m gonna check her out. I don’t know her history, like I don’t like, I’ve never been brought up with any religion, anything. But the fact that it’s been coming up in my, my awareness quite often and through the processes of the energy I spoke about earlier, I’m very aware that there’s [00:50:00] something coming through more and more.

So you, me, Mary Magdalene, so this was on the, I think we had the reading on the Wednesday or the Thursday. My Thursday. Now I’m in the workshops on the Saturday, a couple of days later, and I walk in and there’s a lady, right, sitting up the front wearing one of these right now. This is bio geometry. This is imported from Egypt.

I saw she’s wearing it. ’cause I’m wearing one. So I go and speak to her. I was like, oh, great to see you, you, you’re wearing bio geometry there. And she said, oh yeah, I, I, I work with people. I’m a a reiki healer or whatever. And somebody recommended this bio geometry to check it out. So then she orders the bio geometry and finds out about us.

’cause we distribute the biometry in Australia. So then she decides to come to the workshop. So I know she was only wearing this, right? And then at that point she said, oh yeah, I’ve been, [00:51:00] I’m on quite a journey. And Mary Magdalene came into my vision this morning or something and I was like, oh, okay. And in the back of my mind I’m thinking, well, I’ve just heard Mary Magdalene again.

Nobody’s ever said anything about Mary Magdalene. Now I’m hearing it twice in, in two days. And then I go into the workshop and then at the retreat at lunchtime, I have this energy that comes through that was. Quite mind blowing. Now I’m thinking that feels like a effeminate energy all is that. So, of course.

But my mind is now starting to think, oh, that’s just silly thinking. I could be Mary Michael. That’s just ridiculous. And I left it be because I don’t want to get in way. It is what it is. I don’t wanna label it. So then the lady then comes in after lunch and she comes straight up to me. So we did the meditation and she said, you never guess what I was like, what?

She said. I go out to the [00:52:00] park bench at lunchtime, sit down and I’m closing my eyes. Just integrate in from the meditation you led. And I open my eyes and I look on the floor and I see this pendant just sitting between my feet and she picks it up and she brings it and she shows me and it’s Mary Magdalene.

And I’m like, no f*$%^&g way. Wow. Now. The next day we held another workshop in Newcastle from Sydney. The lady on the microphone shares to me, ’cause we opened up a space to share in the afternoon and she said, oh, Mary Magdalene came to me. And I’m like, okay, this is ridiculous. I’m thinking. So I be a Thursday, Saturday like that and then Sunday.

And we’ve had dozens and dozens. I’ve never heard of people of Mary Magdalene. And then I go for my, I have my energy with Sarah on Tuesday, my, my, um, where I get to let go. [00:53:00] And she’s like, oh, bloody hell. This some interesting going on here. She said, I, I feel I need to draw a card for you when you leave and I’ll text it to you.

She texted me the card that she drew, Mary, Magdalene I told Wow. So that happened right through the weekend and I was like. Wow. Like I, I could feel my heart just racing, just sharing that story.

Heather: Yeah.

Guy: Um, it was quite, quite profound. Absolutely profound. So I’ve just ordered a bunch of books on it.

Heather: That’s amazing. You know, I love when we, um, when we take the form list, I oftentimes do this after meditations with, when I do group meditations, is, is I open it up for people to share ’cause there’s something so solidifying when we can take the experience of the form list and we [00:54:00] have to put it into form, which in this case is word.

And you just sharing that experience, like you said, you’ve shared it. This is the second time that you’re sharing it. Just, I feel it just anchoring like this is in your cells now. It’s like it’s anchored and it’s solidified even more, even though you knew. It was true, but it just, when we say it out loud, we put the formless into form.

This is how we start to dance with creation. It’s amazing.

Guy: It’s mind blowing, isn’t it? It’s so beautiful.

Heather: Yeah.

Guy: And it, it happens when you, when you least expect it. And I think it had to happen to me that amount of times just to make sure I got, I got the, I got the message right.

Heather: And then, and then just to, just to ping it back, just to like keep the humanity in here, as I’m sharing that with you in the reading, there’s a part of, because I, I also work a little bit with, with this energy, there’s a part of me [00:55:00] that’s like, am I, am I infusing my own thing into Guy’s reading, right?

Yeah. And then I pause and I’m like, no, this is for him. And so I share it, but it’s, it’s just so interesting how we want the signs and yet we, we want to.

Be able to explain this to, to unexplained them as being anything other than miraculous. We want the miracle, but then we wanna undo the miracles. It’s just crazy how we operate. Hey,

Guy: wow. I know. It is wild. Yeah. It’s a validation right there.

Heather: Yeah,

Guy: for sure.

Heather: Yeah.

Guy: Yeah. I, I’m looking, I’m looking at the time. We, we’ve wrapped up nearly an hour on the podcast, which is just mind blowing.

Heather: So I, I’ve actually meant to say it a few times in this conversation is, is your curiosity is a superpower that you have and that’s what keeps you able to, um, be in the more expanded states is because you stay curious.

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Yeah.

Guy: Yeah. It’s one of my mantras. It’s like I actually, we even say in the, when things come up for people at the workshops, my mantra is just remember, it’s just go, ah, isn’t that interesting? Mm-hmm. As opposed to putting meaning onto it straight away, or it means this is that this, and, you know, we just push against, we resist even more to what’s wanting to come through, but if we hold that all wonder and curiosity says something, or if something happened that would normally trigger me and I could feel it rise and go, oh, that’s interesting.

Then you’re halfway there already. Which is, which is beautiful. Yeah. It’s like why carry it with you for the rest of the day? Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah.

Heather: Yeah. I agree.

Guy: Beautiful.

Heather: Mm-hmm.

Beautiful. Heather, thank you so much. I loved our conversation today and I have no doubt everyone today, um, will be listening and of course just reach out to one of us if you’ve got questions and um, 

Heather: Sounds great. Thanks for having me. Always an honor and a pleasure to be in your company. Yeah. [00:57:00] 

Guy: Thanks my lovely. Cheers. 

Heather: Take care.