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Igor:
If energy creates matter, we should be focused more on the energy aspect to shift than the matter. Organs are not there to digest food. These organs are there to digest emotion. If everything is energy, we don’t need to change our belief system. We need to illuminate the energy and the belief system will naturally change. Like it or not, we’re becoming aware. We’re becoming conscious, and the more conscious we become. There’s so much to explore because now we’re becoming not only just conscious, but now we’re becoming multi-dimensional.

Guy:
Guy here. Welcome to my letter in podcast. Thank you for joining me today. My epic guest is Igor Galibov, and what I loved about this podcast, look, I, I mean, I’m coming up to nearly 400 episodes now, right? And I’ve covered a lot of conversations, but I love being surprised. And I definitely got that from ego today. You know, his journey, his story. I was like, wow, that’s really interesting. And that’s what for me, podcasting is all about and exploring the depths of one’s own experience and how we can then take other people’s experiences and formulate their own opinions and make sure we then begin to apply it in our life.

Look, he’s a energy healer. He is a mystic. Uh, what’s the, what can I say? There’s, uh, many ways you could frame it really, but you’ll get to know ego through the, the podcast today. But we get into the discussions around the light body, the multidimensional body, his own journeys of awakening. Astro projection as well. And also, you know, the energetic upgrades that are happening on the planet, or, I mean, it’s a hot topic on YouTube, right? There’s a lot of conversations, a lot of different perspectives around this. But look from someone who’s, as we would say in Wales, who’s at the cold face of it all, I’m in front of 2, 3, 400 people within four to six weeks in person.

As we are holding space for these retreats and one day events, and there’s something going on, there is a shift in consciousness that is happening. That is my belief, and the more we get out of our heads, get into our hearts, get into the present moment, and start to explore the depths of our own inner wisdom and what wants to come forward, we can take it our sovereign beingness, if you like, back, like it’s up to us. We are our own gurus and there are multiple ways that we can explore this if we do that. Anyway, I’m going off on a tangent. I’m about get on an airplane. To Croatian neck in a few days when this goes live for a retreat, which is extremely exciting. So, hey, if you’re gonna be at a retreat, look forward to meeting you.

But look, anyway, there’s links below if you wanna find out what we’re up to next year. Enjoy this podcast with ego. Um, it’s great, it’s out, it’s great. This is where it’s all about. And of course, let me know where you are in the world. It’s always good to connect. Love for me and I will catch you soon.

Guy:
Igor welcome to the podcast.

Igor:
Thank you guy. Thank you.

Guy:
Yeah. First question, we’ll, we’ll, uh, we’ll get the ball rolling, but, uh, you’re at an intimate dinner party and you sit next to a stranger and they ask you what you do for a living. How would you answer that

Igor:
Huh uh, physical reality or spiritual reality. But in, in a nutshell, um, I work with people and mostly with energy bodies. Uh, getting people into a higher state of consciousness by allowing them to expand their awareness and tap into the light body. Uh, light body is, has many definitions, but working with it. Energy bodies. What really defines the human nature if we are physical beings, so then energy is what creates the physical reality. We work with that state, so I get people into that higher consciousness to understand the dynamic between their physical body and energy bodies, and how to transform and transmute their solar agreements or contracts. You can say. Within the energy fields and how they operate amongst each other in order to simplify everyday reality for everyone.

Guy:
Yeah, there’s a lot there isn’t it? Is, is that something you find is, is getting quite accepted these days in conversation, or do you think people are still like, huh, what, what? What do you want about.

Igor:
Well, you know, uh, everybody already knows what meditation is, which is great because, uh, 20 years ago when you asked somebody, uh, you know, they ask you, what do you do? I’m like, meditate. They’re like, do you have mental issues? You know, they would approach it this way. Now it’s more open. Everybody wants to learn. Everybody wants to expand their consciousness, their awareness. They want to find peace. They want to find, uh, connect to different dimensions and different realities. They wanna know about their dreams. So it’s becoming so big and so vast that I feel like it’s even being taught in schools already. There is being utilized in police, uh, academies. So it’s really powerful where we are going as a collective.

Guy:
You, you mentioned the light bodies and energy bodies. How do would you start to define them? Like especially because we, we, we get caught so caught up in our day-to-day, the busyness of our world and

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
more busy we are and stressed out or the more in the mind, the more we just. Kind of borrow into the, the physical and then to really stop and pause. It’s like, well, I’ve got this physical body. That’s, that’s it. know? How how do you expand upon that for people in their understanding?

Igor:
Well, you, you know, that’s why they’re called energy bodies. Uh, they’re part of our body. They’re just energetic. And the thing is that we’re, our awareness is so limited. It’s only limited to this physical part. And if we really, uh, take a look into it, our energy expands 50 feet in each direction. So if it expands 50 feet in each direction, now they can see this based on technology. If it expands 50 feet in it, direct each direction, then we are only aware of 10% of ourselves. So if we are only aware of 10% and then the rest of it we’re com completely numb, then we’re not full potential of God. You know, we have to be aware of all of our aspects, all of ourself, because all of that creates one unit, one being that can create and simplify this reality.

I mean, uh, the whole purpose of us is not to work nine to five all the time. That is something that created by the society, and it’s been only around for the past 150 years maybe or so, but if we go back naturally, if we don’t have to work, we don’t have to pay bills. What is a natural state of consciousness gonna do? People will naturally start searching towards answers of God, of source, of how or why am I here? How can I connect with nature? They will feel and see things because our mind is so busy. We immerse ourselves in that. But if we bring awareness to these parts and we start to introduce this to our lives.

We’ll start to become aware of them and we’ll start to tap into things that is really out of this world. But very interesting, very powerful, very exciting. Because we wanna know more. What was that? What is that dream I had? What is that I’m feeling? Uh, especially these days, people are awakening all over the world. They’re feeling se seeing stuff. Uh, they’re not understanding. They see something moving a, a being or an entity. And there’s no really deep explanation. But you can see that also in schools now is being taught, kids are being born with, uh, these awarenesses. But if we were taught this from childhood, we would be so aware of this information and all this wisdom that is within us, within the cosmos. So our mind is thought to be so logical. But the spiritual reality is illogical, so we have to kind of find the balance between those two.

Guy:
it. It’s pretty wild, isn’t it? Like, ’cause I went through, you know, the first half of my life, looking back almost, I, I, I don’t wanna say sleepwalking because there was a part of me that was always being drawn to the exploration of this work. I just didn’t know how, but. Until I started to open up beyond my five senses and eng gr I would’ve said you were crazy. Like, you

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
that that are, that can start to be experienced and are possible, and yet it feels like so many people are unaware of what is possible and we, and we continue to be held back by our fears as opposed to exploring our potential. I just find that whole thing fascinating.

Igor:
It, it is, it, you know, um, there’s different forms of, of awakening and uh, some people have like a sharp kundalini awakening. Some people have, uh, a gradual transition into things, but yet somehow we’re being pulled towards that direction. I. Uh, for me, for instance, I had a very sharp awakening. I, I was not expecting any of this. It just happened in 2004, um, on a journey with my mother, uh, to see a healer in Brazil at go for me. I just went to support her and all of a sudden I had a sharp awakening and I started to feel and see everything and I disconnected. From physical reality, completely from friends, from family events, gatherings, going out to clubs or restaurants, I wasn’t able to do it

Guy:
Wow.

Igor:
just like overnight, wasn’t able to do it. So I locked myself up in a room for four years, not like literally, but isolated myself for four years where I spent most of the time just in meditation and astral traveling to different dimensions and realities because that was. Interesting to me more than physical reality. I lost all interest in physical reality, but there was no information out there back then. Now we have so much information supporting us and a lot of information out there, but it’s not put together in a sequence where we can find a balance, and that is the most important thing I see. I find that to close the gap between the 3D and the five D.

Guy:
I, I gotta ask you, how did that awakening occur? Were you actively worked upon in the healing or were you just in a presence? What

Igor:
So, so this healing was very interesting because in 2004, when I arrived to Brazil, I thought I was gonna just leave my mother and just go out and enjoy Brazil a little bit. Everybody just coming up to this healer and. I just like felt, I need to go see what’s going on there. When I come up to him, he’s in a complete trend, like his eyes are white and he looks at you and he says, do you want a surgery? I had no idea what he was referring to. There’s two types of surgery he does visible and invisible. Invisible surgery, uh, is where you walk into a room, he says a prayer, uh, for 10 minutes or something, and you leave. Visible surgery, he’ll take a knife or scissors, uh, and cut you and like literally remove a tumor.

So my turn comes up. This cannot be explained. You had to like really be there. It was like Allison in Wonderland. You had doctors from all over the world visit him back in the day to see what happened. How did he does this? Uh, you had lawyers come down, uh, because it was really something out of this world. He would go in complete trance. So my turn comes up, he gets up. All of a sudden he comes up to me and I’m like, just frozen. Like, ah, what’s going on? Takes his thumb, puts it inside my mouth. Next thing I know, I’m out of my body, standing behind him looking at myself. I’m like, whoa, hold on. I’m trying to open my eyes and I can’t.

But I look to the side and I see his silhouette and all of a sudden he grabs the surgical scissors with a round tip, puts it into my nose while I’m watching this with the bottom of his palm, hits it, and I can feel it inside of my skull hitting to the top twist one way, twist another way. Pulls the scissors out, sits spit. By the time I finished spitting out of my mouth, whatever it was, I was back in my body. Just a little bit of blood, no pain, no nothing. Out of nowhere. I just get this joke of energy in my body and I feel like I can move mountains. And after that, they just put you to a room and where you’re supposed to relax.

So I relax for 24 hours. And all of a sudden I start seeing things, feeling things. I’m not quite understanding what’s going on. I’m like, okay, you know, just like, must be something really good there going on. So I was like, okay. Just ignored it. Uh, the following day I came out and I started to feel and see things, which I did not understand. Two weeks while I was there. Nobody tells you anything. Nobody’s explaining much because it’s just like, you know, oh, you just had like spiritual surgery. I came home. And I was not able to communicate to anyone. I was seeing things, I was feeling things. It was painful, it was uncomfortable. I didn’t know what was going on, but I knew if I grab my hands, like I grab an energy off my head and I see something not nice, not pretty dark gray, and I throw it into the ground.

Oh, it feels so much better. I’m like, whoa, hold on a second. I started to clean myself energetically. So anything I thought of I was able to tap into. So if I watched a movie, I would tap into that dimension. I was like, whoa, this is like painful. I talked to somebody, I started to see what’s going on inside their body. I started to feel their pain. I was like, okay, this is not comfortable. I walk away, I don’t feel the pain. And then I remembered when I was 16 years old, my father gave me a book. It was Monta Chia, a multi orgasm man. And when I opened that book, I remember there were chakras there. So back then I was 16. I just threw that book to the side and I remember there were chakras there.

I grabbed that book and I open it and I just see all these chakras and mine all just activated. I was like, wow. Uh, then I got in the other book was The Keys of Enoch by JJ Ock and Desiree Ock. I don’t know if you heard of them. That book is, you cannot read it. It’s a book of just wisdom, uh, celestial Wisdom. Uh, that was the other book that I got into my hands, and that was it. And for many years I just spent time in different dimensions through these books, uh, traveling to different, uh, experiences and that was my life basically.

Guy:
Holy shit. You know, it’s funny when you said, I remember watching the documentary of

Igor:
Excuse me.

Guy:
um, of John of God on Netflix a few years ago, and they had different healers in there and they were doing show in the physical surgeries, and you’re just like, what? You know, they were

Igor:
That’s exactly where I was.

Guy:
a hat, you know, a hack source. Like how is that even possible? But what, what did

Igor:
Yeah,

Guy:
What did they remove from your nose at that

Igor:
so it’s not really a removal, it’s an activation. Because what he did was he used a knife, let’s say, and he would cut you. He would stick his hand out. He’s just not even looking at you, like all over the place. Takes a tumor out, throws it, and the tumor would come out, no blood comes out, stitches you back up. And the following day you have like everything stitched, like it was healed. The, uh, for, for years, uh, there were people that came back home, went and got x-rays inside. They had stitches inside their organs, but there’s no cut on the outside. So the doctors would say, how, why, where is this coming from? So they were just tools basically.

The entities would enter him and do all these healings. I mean, I’ve seen all kinds of stuff there. I see, uh, kids were, uh, there was a little girl that came with us that was blind. Uh, she started to see, uh, there was a woman. Uh, they came on a wheelchair, left without it, like it, it was crazy stuff going on there, but you cannot explain it until you actually go.

Guy:
you have to

Igor:
You have to be there. You know, it’s just a, it’s like Alison in the Wonderland.

Guy:
how, how old were you when this happened?

Igor:
I was 24.

Guy:
Wow. That’s nuts. And nobody prepared. You weren’t prepared for it. You no idea. And then it is just like boom to boom.

Igor:
None. I worked, uh, I worked in finance. That was my reality. September 11th happened, uh, 2002, I stopped working. 2003, I was depressed. In 2004, I had this huge just shift,

Guy:
Fuck

Igor:
no idea anything about angels or this or that. Uh, there was nothing on, on the internet back then. You know, Google was just coming around. YouTube was just forming, uh, there was, uh, MSN Messenger, so we had flip phones.

Guy:
Wow. Because it, because when,

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
we spoke off air, when my, um, Kundalini rose, my, my awakening, it was like a gradual thing and then all this energy, and that happened in 2015 when it really started to open. But at least I had resources, I had access to the internet and there were people around me that I could lean into that understood what was going on, you know? Where

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
like you had none of that. You’re just in a, you’re just isolating yourself in a room and trying to figure it out.

Igor:
Completely. It was just trial and error the whole time. Uh, I would go out, think I can drink like everybody else. Nobody said it was bad. Uh, I drink and I was like, oh my God, I feel bad. What’s going on? What’s happening? Yeah. had to clear myself out, clear my system out, take a bit again, two, three days. Again, I would go out. Again, I would get in pain. I was like, oh my God, I don’t think I’m allowed to do this. I cannot lie. I cannot cheat. I cannot think this way. I have to change the way I’m thinking. I have to change the way I perceive reality because I was sensitive to energy. It was a blessing, but it was, it was painful, but it was a blessing that guided me, uh, through pain.

I knew that this was not in alignment, so I started to work with that. Uh, utilizing the space of energy and most of my work was in the astral plane. So I would go into, uh, every night in Dream State, I started to work with different beings, different entities. They started to teach me and guide me about these chakra systems in the field, not the ones in the seven chakra systems here. Uh, that’s what something basically that I teach. And they started to show me those different dimensions.

Guy:
you differentiate those then? So you’ve got your traditional chakras and then the chakras in the field, is that what you’re saying?

Igor:
Yeah, so the emotional body has its own chakra system. The mental body has its own chakra system, and then you have the astral body, which basically puts all of them together because the etheric body, it’s the first body. When you look at somebody, you see the white silhouette. Then you have the emotional body, then you have the mental body, and then the astral body. But the emotional, mental, and etheric are inside the astral body.

Guy:
Right.

Igor:
Then after the astral body, we have the causal body. So the causal body is what brings energy in into the astral body, and then further down into lower octaves into the physical body. So we have a silver cord in the back, which is connected to the soul, the heart of the soul and the chakras in the back is what brings in the energy from the soul, and you emanate it out into these seven chakras here. When we start to operate in the astral body, as the seven chakras actually merge into a set of three chakras. So now that your reality becomes a complete matrix where you can manipulate it because you’re operating it from a higher state of consciousness where you can change and transform things without the force, it’s now like it, it’s, it’s important to set the energy first and then take the physical action.

Guy:
Yeah. Makes sense. So for that. I, I kind of got on a tangent. I, I’ll bring it back into your story ’cause those things fascinate me on a personal level ’cause with this a lot. But anyway, let’s come back to, so you. You start having these experiences, you’re saying now you are going into the astral plane every night. you remember Yeah, time you start after that experience where you witnessed yourself outta your body? Can you remember then the, the very next time you were starting to leave your body to explore the plane?

Igor:
well the, the first time I did not quite understand, it just happened. You know, uh, and then I noticed that whatever I was reading or whatever I was connecting to before I went to bed, I would connect to that throughout the night. So I was like, okay. So I, I say what I want to do, okay. I would say it, I, it wouldn’t happen. Then I tried it differently and I noticed that if I direct my communication through my crown, that’s when it started to happen. So as I started to do that, I was like, oh, okay, now I’m coming out of the body. Now I’m coming out of this space. Uh, and then I started to come out of my heart instead of through the crown or coming outta the body.

And when I started to come outta the heart, that’s when it made more sense because I was able to be, become more in control of what’s taking place in the astral plane. Because it’s the center point, it is the, the zero point. So that’s when I started to kind of experience different dimensions and go to different, uh, places. But before that, even that taking place, uh, the beings would actually help me out and they would take me. They would take me to different, uh, ships, to different planets, to different dimensions, and I would start to have experiences there. As I started to have experiences there, that’s when these different, uh, beings started to show up.

So I used to notice like, wow, there’s not just like five or six, there was over 300 different beings existing in just this dimension nearby us. And this was, for me, it was like, okay, how and why and what do I do in these places? How is this gonna help me in my physical reality? Later on, I started to ask that because before that, it was like everything up there, I was having fun there. I enjoyed it there. I did not want to be here on the physical reality at all. And when I started to ground more, that’s when I was like, okay, how’s that gonna benefit me here? How do I use this to grow my consciousness and my awareness here? And by working with different beings, uh, there was so much information, so much wisdom that would come from them, uh, that it, it would be, it was just more fun to be there than here.

Guy:
Who are these beings?

Igor:
So I wasn’t really aware of the names of these beings because later on as I started to see that people call them the Palladian, uh, or call ’em the act, Victorians, to me they were blue beings. Uh, they were blue silhouette, tall beings, and the other beings were that I definitely know they were the IIC consciousness. Of really tall beings. They were really benevolent and always guiding me in the most beautiful and and gentlest way. Uh, the blue beings, they started to teach me about the chakra systems in the energy bodies. They started to show me these, uh, how they work through different templates, how the energy comes from higher octaves and breaks down to lower octaves in order to be received in physical and how to send energy towards those directions as well.

Uh, karmic agreements, contracts on those levels, uh, ag agreements on the sole level, and then agreements on the physical level that we make. So I started to go through all of those different experiences, which were very, very powerful, uh, and benefited me a lot in this physical reality by clearing out these karmic patterns.

Guy:
Huh. So are you saying as, as you’re clearing your own comic patterns and traumas from this life of previous lifetimes so that it’s allowing you then to fully integrate and be embody the 3D physical experience reality at a deeper level here?

Igor:
Correct. So if energy creates matter, uh, we should be focused more on the energy aspect to shift than the matter, because matter is so solidified, so dense, it’s very complex to do anything. But if we do stuff from the energetic perspective because energy is received. Into this dimension anyways. So if we start to pre adjust, uh, the energetic, uh, grids, then we’ll start to receive this much more easier. So it’s not, we’re not manifesting anything, we’re not doing anything. We are just acting on of what’s created in the field.

Guy:
Makes sense. Yeah. And then, and then that is it by putting our awareness and our intention behind it is how we start to shift that energy.

Igor:
Intention. Yes. But, uh, intention is only connecting to that frequency. Then we have to have a, um, a tone where we maintain that frequency. When we maintain that frequency, that’s when we start to really operate in the, in that dimension. Then because energy is never, uh, still, it’s, it’s constant in motion. So we have to be able to be flexible and fluid and move with that. Even if you had the intentions, let’s say, for something, the end result, and it, as you’re going towards that direction, things change. So you have to be flexible to change because our number one manifestation has to be of our higher self first. To be with source, then everything else, because the ego mind, everybody wants to manifest.

There’s so much information out there, and I can assure you a lot of these people do not manifest anything because there’s no focus. There’s no focus, there’s no stillness, uh, and there’s no constant, constant breath in death. It has to be a certain rhythm, and when people really get into it, you’ll see that you don’t really need to manifest anything. You will just do things because physical reality, we came to do stuff. The only thing we should be working on is really focusing on, is connecting to our higher self, to our soul, to our over soul, to our monadic self. And when we connect to that space, our desires even change.

Guy:
Yeah. No, that makes complete sense. When you, when you are having these experiences like. For listeners, how real are they? Like differentiated from 3D to that? ’cause if somebody is not, actually all they know is physical, their body and this physical reality can be very hard to, to conceptualize the, the very things you speak of here.

Igor:
It’s, it’s really not that complex. If you start to kind of, um, break it down into segments, the physical body. Is a machine, it is not our body because we attach to things and say my pain, my suffering, my body, how I feel, how I look. If we start to perceive it that this body inside, we have organs, right? And these organs are not there to digest food. These organs are there to digest emotion. So if we really start to understand the liver processes, anger. Spleen, anxiety of the future, uh, liver, the past kidneys, fear, sadness, and depression in lungs. Then we start to understand that they are actually not just with digest food, they’re digesting emotional experiences.

So therefore, when we come into zero point, we start to understand, oh, wait a minute, my solar plexus is connected to the soul. Because the soul wants to emanate its belief system through it, but the ego mind operates in the past, which is the liver or too much in the future, which is a spleen. That means those organs are filled with emotions and memories and anxiety where the soul cannot express itself, and the ego mind has stored belief systems in. So if we start to understand how this body works and apply proper tools to clear it and to heal it, or to raise the vibration of it, then we can really understand and we can start to feel things. We start to tap into the field because now the body is ready to receive the energy of the field. The mind has to synchronize to that higher dimension

Guy:
Hmm.

Igor:
of of thought process.

Guy:
sorry to jump in. I just paused a bit there. Um, so what you’re saying is then is that if we get our body into a position where all energy is flowing freely through it, all the foundational aspects of the cells, from the organs to the cells, the, it’s, it’s almost like there’s a symphony that’s then to. Going beyond that as opposed to just having to deal with or put out fires that is going on within us because of and process emotions, maybe the way we eat, the way we do things and the lifestyles we lead. Exactly.

Igor:
The lifestyles that we lead would have to change and they’ll change because the energy has cleared. If the energy has cleared, which is the programs, they’re all programs inside of us, and once they clear out, that’s when it becomes much more easier and, uh, effortless.

Guy:
Amazing. One thing that’s I wanna raise, I remember I’ve had, uh, the fortune of having, uh, Bruce Lipton on the podcast, I think three times now. He’s a great guy and he spoke about what was called the biological imperative, meaning the drive to survive like it’s innate from bacteria to cells. There’s this, this innate, um. Survival mechanism beyond the conscious mind in all forms of life, which he studied. I think about this because that, that really stood out for me. So when I had my first, um. Um, out of body experience. I, it, it happened, like you said, it went out the top of my head. I went outta the crown and I went into a void, but my whole body freaked out.

I freaked out. Everything just fucking freaked out. Like it was like this innate response that was in my body. And then the next thing you know, was back in just going, my God, did that just, did that just happen? Mm-hmm. every time I would then fall asleep, I would go out the crown of my head, but my body would, I would just, I would just naturally freak out. was like a, a trauma response almost. And I think, wow. You know, and it’s, and it’s taken a long time to. Be okay with that, to let that body there. ’cause it’s almost like, um, a death in some ways, but you’re alive. You know what I’m

Igor:
Yeah. Yeah, because you’re going through a detachment of the physical matter,

Guy:
Right.

Igor:
so it feels weird, but when we come out of our body, our body actually goes through a healing state, so the cells start to rejuvenate themselves because there’s nothing bothering it or nothing is making it active. The mind is conscious of the other dimension and this dimension, it feels weird for the body. So we start to try to bring ourselves back right away. It’s uncomfortable. Why is it uncomfortable? Because it is liberating. We’re so used to living in pressure all the time. That’s why we cannot tap into it. But in, in other cultures where people lived completely free, it was a normal thing for them. Because there was no pressure from the outside world.

Guy:
Yeah.

Igor:
So when we go out, all everything starts to alleviate. The cells start to breathe. And through that process, uh, not only you start to tap into this, uh, wisdom of the divine wisdom in the astral plane, but your physical body starts to rejuvenate itself. So then with time we can actually astral project ourselves into different places while we are doing other things. We’re training the mind to be active in multiple dimensions at the same time.

Guy:
Give me an example, like when you say that, because Tom Campbell speaks of this as well, who I, I had on recently, but when you say you could be, could be doing multiple things while astral

Igor:
So it is awareness. First, we have to train the awareness in the mind and. I’m like, let’s say talking to you, but yet I’m aware of what’s happening next door because I can project myself into that space. So you’ll be able to do multiple things at the same time because there is no really separation or division in the energy. It is just allowing the mind to be okay and process different experiences at the same time. So we have to develop the visual cortex in the back of the head. The visual cortex is what allows us, like I’m talking to you right now and I say, uh, a white, a mountain with a white peak, right? You see that yet? You’re looking at me. Red bicycle,

Guy:
Yeah.

Igor:
right? Uh, a red car. So once we start to develop that part, now we’ll be able to project ourselves into different places, yet be here and fully present, but yet be doing other things. So let’s say if you lose your keys, you can actually come out of your body and scan where you left the keys and know where they’re at. So it’s very, uh, interesting because the more we become aware of our astral body, the more of these gifts will come through. It becomes very simple afterwards because your brain now has shifted from operating the, in the outer lobe only, but internally into the brainstem as well.

Guy:
Hmm. This question, which is continuing spark I from what? As you talk if, ’cause there’s a lot of noise around saying that we, we live in a virtual reality and you know. It’s, it’s, it’s all part of our perception is that then creating this, so my question is, when you go out body, are you actually going anywhere or is that information coming to you?

Igor:
So this is what, this is the way I see it is a and and I know that it is just not, uh, this is what I was taught, uh, by the, by the beings is we have a field, okay? Our ORIC field, we think that we are leaving the body. We’re only coming out of the physical body into the field. And when we are in the field, we bring everything to our field. So let’s say I want to go to the moon. I’m out of my body in my org field, but the energy of the moon comes to you, into your field. You want to go to Mars. You think that you’re going to Mars, you’re bringing the energy of Mars into your field. I. It’s like you are an electron and you’re coming out of the, the core of the electron into the space between the proton, right?

Like you’re floating in that space, but you’re bringing everything there. You’re not going anywhere. It’s in the same space. So when we do these astral projections, we’re not going to the other side of the world. We’re bringing the other side of the world to us.

Guy:
So I had this experience the other night, and I haven’t shared this with anyone, just with Matt. So I, we finished our retreat and I came home and I went to bed. ’cause we just did a five day retreat and I’m very open afterwards because there’s a lot of

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
there’s a lot of healing occurrences. And, and I come back and, and I go to bed and the next thing you know, I’m in a large room I’m floating, going from one corner to the other, just floating around saying, wow, this is cool. then all of a sudden a tunnel of light opened and I go shooting up this tunnel of light, just like, like I was skydiving, but it was going up, not down.

Igor:
Mm-hmm.

Guy:
And I was just like, holy moly. It, it, it was so fast, it so exhilarating, and I had no idea where I was going. so my question to you is, is that I’m actually not going anywhere. Is that information just coming into me then?

Igor:
Exactly. It feels that you’re going, but what’s really taking place is the expansion of your consciousness within the brainstem and within the, the tube of your own, uh, fluorescent tube of light.

Guy:
Yeah, right. The.

Igor:
So it’s an expansion of awareness into the consciousness. So since you do a lot of retreats, you probably also have visions. And before the retreat you probably have visions of you doing everything and you see yourself working with the people doing what you need to do, and then it’s like, whoa, I just did it in the, in the astral plane.

Guy:
The so many strange things that happen, you know, I’ve come in even during as well in, in beautiful ways when as you create that space and shift of frequency and beings come in, they

Igor:
Exactly.

Guy:
and they work with us, it’s like,

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
this is, this is, this is incredible. But until it happens, people just think you’re nuts. And it’s like, no, this, this is happening. This is, this is happening.

Igor:
This, this is happening because what’s happening is we’re opening ourselves up to our fifth dimensional city of light. We’re opening ourselves to the higher dimensional selves, so the more of this work we do, we will merge with that space where there’s no separation between the 5G and the 3D. Because the soul will integrate. So the being that you are this illuminated higher dimensional celestial being that we are, that’s what takes place during these retreats. So when I do retreats, same thing. I start, I don’t sleep for like the whole retreat. If I’m holding a retreat for three, four, or five days, I do not sleep those days.

I’m constantly working in the astral plane. With all the people that are in the retreat. Then the following day when we do the practices, it is really not worth doing anything. They’re just integrating what already took place in the astral plane because that timeframe was initiated the moment that they decided to come.

Guy:
Yeah.

Igor:
So the soul has already done the work. It is just not the personality that’s integrating that wisdom.

Guy:
I, I was so happy you said that. Yeah. No, it’s making me smile. it’s wild When you leave your body, you know, you say you’re out there in the astral plane, right? you’re at, at night, I’m assuming I, does your body recover? Is it sleeping and Regi, you know, doing everything it needs and, and you come back in feeling refreshed in the morning? do you feel like

Igor:
So there.

Guy:
hard day’s work or hard night’s work and you’re like.

Igor:
That, that’s the thing where we have to learn how to, uh, allow our nervous system to be relaxed.

Guy:
Yeah,

Igor:
Because what happens is there are heightened emotions and people sometimes will wake up, like all distorted, you know, or not fully come back to their body and they feel heavy, like their legs are heavy or they’re still wanna sleep. They’re not, they cannot get out of bed. All of those is because the physical body has went to a higher dimension and did not fully return. So we have to know how to bring ourselves back. The expansion of the nervous system and awareness of the body will allow you to bring those aspects much faster back into your center. Otherwise it becomes more complex. So, um, I had experiences where I would go into a, an astral plane, I would wake up, get up, go to the bathroom, come back, and I see my body still laying in bed.

Guy:
What.

Igor:
But I thought that I got up, and not only that, I would see some beings working on top of my body. So I lay back down to come back. I think I came back. I get up again. I am not back in my body. I’m still out of my body. So my body’s now and my mind is stressing and my body starts to sweat. While I was going through that experience, now that I’m going through that experience, I’m like trying to get back into my body. So I go back, I lay down into my body from my astral body into my physical again. I get up and I cannot get up. My body’s still there. I started to sweat even more. So these types of experiences will throw our nervous system off balance.

Guy:
Hmm.

Igor:
We have to learn how to come back to our center of our heart. And that’s the only way we’ll be empowered because in the astral plane, when we do things from your heart space, whatever you are afraid over there will no longer exist in that dimension because we have to understand, uh, like let’s say electron for, for instance, it’s a different dimension. So whatever you’re thinking of, your whole field shifts. It changes. So like let’s say right now I want to connect to my emotional body. So I say emotional body and I, my intention is to connect to my emotional body. So I’m feeling my emotional body, I say mental body, it’s in the same space, but now it’s the mental body.

I say astral body, now it’s, it’s the same space, but it’s now the Asel body. And when we become aware of that, we synchronize our heart and our mind. And we open up all the nervous system and all the glands are working in synchronicity. Now we are becoming a master of our reality. So now when we go into the astral plane and we get lost or we feel afraid, we can shift that right away in instantaneously and we can do all the work that we need to do spiritually in that space becomes much more easier than it is to do on the physical reality.

Guy:
Yeah, because you, you’re then, you’re then affecting the, the, the mouth of the river, right? The, the very essence of where it’s coming from and everything downstream is changing, having the cause of effect because of it.

Igor:
Yeah,

Guy:
Yeah.

Igor:
definitely.

Guy:
Wow. Wow. Wow, wow. So you, like, you, you, you, how long have you been teaching this now? So you, you know, you spoke of your four years, you went through obviously your own, um, exploration of learning, is probably the purest way of doing it. Right. Through trial and

Igor:
In 2012, I started to, uh, I came out like, before that I was just doing work on my own. And when people told me they meditate, I was like, wow, teach me, show me. Like, you know, because I, I thought I, I sucked at it, you know? And when I started to talk to people, I was like, wait a minute. That’s not meditation. Then, uh, in 2000. 13, 14, that’s when I started to teach, uh, like kind of come out into the public. And in 14, that’s when I started to really teach 2014. So I’ve been teaching already for 10 years and at the same time I’ve been having free meditations every Tuesday, uh, since 2014 as well.

Guy:
Oh, good on you. Yeah.

Igor:
Yeah. So the teachings is to get people into that higher state of consciousness so they can liberate themselves, because if you release more of your energetic karma. It’ll become much more easier to do these things through the physical, real, through the physical reality. It’s very important that we understand the physiological and the energetic aspects and how they work together. Because they’re not any separate, that’s why they’re called energy bodies and they’re part of us.

We just need to start becoming aware of that, and I think this is where the world is headed. Uh, like it or not, we’re becoming aware. We’re becoming conscious, and the more conscious we become, there’s so much to explore because now we’re becoming not only just conscious, but now we’re becoming multidimensional.

Guy:
And do you think that’s what’s happening right now in the planet? Because it’s, it feels like such a melting pot of, you know, polarization of good and evil right and wrong. Like it, it all seems to be

Igor:
Yeah, I, I mean, you know, as a collective. As a collective, we always, we taught ourselves to learn through chaos. Through destruction

Guy:
Yeah.

Igor:
and we go through pain, then we have awakening. Why can’t we just have awakening without going through pain? Because the blueprint of the earth grid system has been this way for a long time. So what happens to us? We operate under that same grid system. So the earth has a grid system and we have our own mental grid system. And when we align these grid systems with the earth and the higher cosmos, then we start to understand how to really operate in much more easier, uh, effortless way. So, uh, working on the grids of the earth, uh, and uh, our universe helps us to simplify that.

So there were few experiences where I started to go up into the grid systems and change my beliefs in there. So you can change your belief systems in the field, not in the physical mind, but in the field. The more you illuminate, because everything is energy, right?

Guy:
Mm-hmm.

Igor:
If everything is energy, we don’t need to change our belief system. We need to illuminate the energy and the belief system will naturally change. So when we look at, uh, old pictures of saints and, uh, they have halos around them, right? The golden halo represents the golden energy body because the energy body, uh, the mental energy body operates under the golden frequency. So when we’re bringing the golden light. And then we visualize that light coming in all the time that purifies the neurons in our brain to connect to a higher, higher thought process. The higher thought process does not operate in words. It operates in frequency, in different different color rays. So when we connect to that, we start to think more like the divine beings, like the ascendant masters, like, uh, Jesus, like Buddha, uh.

Because these are rays that we align ourselves under. So if we can align that with a golden frequency and constantly sit in that, meditate on it, that will naturally change. So your belief systems will naturally change. Your thoughts will change because that golden light will dissipate and transmute, uh, all the thoughts that are not vibrating under that light. Negative thoughts have a color in the field. A gray shape, let’s say, uh, or a, a stagnant energy. Why stagnant? Because energy just wants to flow, and when we, uh, understand the energetic flow, everything else opens. So you naturally will change, transform without needing to do things. This is why we need meditation.

When we practice this three times a day, at least two to three times we see rapid change. I mean, if you work nine to five every day, in two year time, you’re gonna become professional. Whatever you do, if you meditate nine to five every day, you’ll become professional with God. Right? But if we spend two hours a day, at least. In the morning and at night, we will see the rapid change in our belief system. It is just us dedicating the time for that.

Guy:
Uh, that’s it right there, isn’t it? In a nutshell, how many people do you hear when they, they’re just stuck in their heads and they complain and they don’t do the practices.

Igor:
No.

Guy:
they stay in the drama of the story.

Igor:
And that’s the thing that we stay in stuck in a loop. And in order to come out, we need to have a, a schedule. We need to have that discipline. Not like a military discipline, but uh, energetic discipline. That’s like hygiene. You take a, people take a shower every day, brush their teeth every day. You don’t meditate every day. It’s the same thing. You’re just collecting dirt in your field.

Guy:
And it sounds as well, which I, I like, is that not just meditating the silence, the mind, you’re actually meditating this very intentional behind that meditation. It’s, it’s, it’s active. You’re visualizing, you’re bringing in different frequencies in light to be working with where I think, I think. you know, traditionally mindfulness and meditation is all about just quiet in the mind and just becoming aware of the thoughts. But there, there’s so much more behind it that, uh, you know, I certainly wasn’t taught anyway. That’s for sure.

Igor:
Well, yeah, there, there is. There’s a lot behind it. I mean, our mind is never gonna be completely silent. It’s his job to do. It’s his job to think. So it’s us to direct it, how to think, which direction. And I always say we have to start thinking vertically. Vertically. So our thoughts have to be towards God, towards source, towards our higher self, towards our uh, di divine process. If we think towards that direction, then we’re constantly being charged. But if we’re horizontally spending, we’re spending energy all the time, we’re looking here, looking there, connecting to this, connecting to that, and we’re depleting ourselves. But if you’re connecting to your source. Then you’re constantly receiving that energy from source.

Guy:
Yeah, I like it. Think vertically. I’ll remember that one. That’s a good, that’s a

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
And

Igor:
And it’s,

Guy:
you were gonna say.

Igor:
it’s, it’s, I think it’s important to balance the masculine and the feminine within ourselves. Uh, the masculine is, uh, uh. The doer that can have the discipline and the feminine just allows it to be flowing, like when she starts to float. So you created a container for yourself where you can receive this higher wisdom.

Guy:
I, I remember, um, having a Micko swami on a couple of times. I’m not sure if you know him, he’s a quantum physicist, but he said he finally figured it out at 80 odd years of all age, where it was you live life by Dooby Dooby, dooby doo, meaning you do, but you be, you do and you be. And there’s this, this ebb and flow of that masculine and energy. Around that. Yeah, mate, I’m, I’m running outta time for the podcast. We’d be nearly

Igor:
Yeah.

Guy:
Can you believe it? It’s flying. I’ve, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this conversation, mate. It’s fabulous. But, um, there any, you know, why would somebody, I mean, if they’d listen to this all the way through, they’re obviously excited to explore more of the mystical and, and our potential on there, but just not what. Having that experience and now reflecting back on your life so far, what has it done to, for you in your personal life to to have learned this work, embodied this work?

Igor:
For me, balance, balance and finding my nut neutral point. You know, when we go through awakening, uh, we go through the swings, up or down too, too excited, too great, too happy or too sad. Finding a balance in the body, finding a balance in the mind, and really honoring yourself in this whole process. How do we come back to our center point? That is the most important thing because we’ll always have emotional and mental, uh, kind of different rollercoasters going around, but how do we come back to your center point? How do you find that peace within yourself? You know, when we’re young, we have a thousand desires, but when we get older, we only have one.

We start to understand that life is about connecting to the higher source. What is the sole purpose? You know? And through that process for me was finding balance between the fifth and the third dimension, closing the gap. Really experiencing my life here to the fullest potential. Without any attachment, but without regret and saying, yeah, I lived my life fully, and yet I am still connected to my soul, to my essence, to my guides and the other dimensions as well. So I experienced both worlds. That’s I think where we came here is to have both of those worlds united and we are the angelic beings. Bringing heaven to earth is by experiencing these dimensions simultaneously.

Guy:
Beautiful mate. Beautiful. Where can people find out more about your work? Igor.

Igor:
Sure. Uh, igorgalibov.com, uh, or alignmentoflight.com, uh, on Instagram, Facebook, um, and all other platforms. But yeah, there’s a lot of information. Uh. Uh, on my website, uh, and always I’m doing some sort of retreats, pilgrimages, uh, workshops and different classes as well. There’s on there,

Guy:
lots going on. Do you ever come to Australia, mate?

Igor:
no, I’ve never been there. I would love to,

Guy:
Come on. It’s amazing over

Igor:
I.

Guy:
There’s kangaroos outside my house half the time running around. We’re gonna crawl a bit across the road. I’m serious. It’s a beautiful place.

Igor:
But I would love to visit myself.

Guy:
yeah. It’s a good spotlight. It’s a good spot. Well look it, there’ll be, uh, links in the show notes for everyone to, um, check out your work as well, mate. So look, thank you. I really appreciate it. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. It, it

Igor:
Same brother.

Guy:
got me pondering. As always. Thanks my man.

Igor:
Thank you brother. Have a joyful moment.