#174 Me, Petra, and Matt cannot possibly experience any negative emotions, because we run retreats and coach people, right? Wrong! During this amazingly emotional conversation between the three of us today, we focus on gratitude and its effects on all our lives.
We open up about the difficulties the three of us have faced, and still sometimes face every day and how you need to allow yourself to feel those emotions, before finding ways to shift the situation.
We also discuss the positive impact of practicing gratitude daily, what that means, and how you can make your own daily gratitude practice.
“All suffering comes from separation, and gratitude is the connection.”
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About Petra: Petra Brzovic is a certified transpersonal and clinical hypnotherapist, regression and Past life regression therapist, Life between Lives therapist, yoga teacher and aromatherapist. Petra has been working on the latest Body & mind medicine discoveries. With an international team of scientists she is running research on brain, mind, body and soul connection, consciousness and healing. As Master Trainer and Instructor Petra is training and teaching therapists around the world, helping them learn how to help others heal.
About Matt: Matt Omo is a leader of the sound healing movement in Australia with over 15 years of experience working with a variety of sound healing techniques bridging cultures and traditions from around the world. The work and awareness around sound healing and its benefits are growing every day. Matt is developing new programs and products to meet this need and continue to support people in discovering the benefits of the healing power of sound.
Key points with time stamp:
- The Attitude of Gratitude (00:00)
- Petra on the concept of gratitude and giving it a chance (00:53)
- Matt on our modern conception of gratitude (04:51)
- The power of gratitude and its effects on our lives (09:13)
- How can we shift hard situations into ones filled with gratitude? (13:25)
- Is it okay to lose it? (16:50)
- “You will come out the other end.” (19:13)
- Having a gratitude practice (28:21)
- It’s all about how you approach gratitude (35:14)
Mentioned in this episode:
- Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor
Matt Patra Welcome to a podcast
Thank you for having us.
It’s been a while I just realized when whenever doing a podcast with more than one person, we have to be very succinct. And I must speak to Petra first or Matt first. Otherwise, there’s so much cross talking. And I’m Matt, you just did magnificently, then staying silent.
Fantastic. Ahead of I’ve had a few goes. So last time last time I was on your podcast, I actually was driving it. Remember interviewing you?
I do. Yeah.
How’s it good? Good. Good run.
Yeah, thankfully, nobody wrote in and say, could Matt, please continue with
it’s quite quite a skill you have there to be able to do that. I think once is enough, for a year perhaps. For me,
it was it was nice to have the table’s turned. And it’s wonderful to have both of you on the show. Because we’re, you know, obviously we together a lot outside of the digital world. Well, saying that we meet digitally a lot, but conversations that aren’t recorded. And we’ve decided to be looking at potentially hopefully, once a month, we come in onto the podcast and, and kind of riffing off a particular topic that is dear to us, or is relevant to us at the time and be able to share the conversations with everybody here listening today. And of course, today, we decided to choose gratitude. And you know, something that came to me earlier, even though I mentioned to you today, man was the the deeper meaning of gratitude, because I think it’s something that’s thrown around a lot, and can be easily overlooked. And especially without group coaching call we had yesterday, on the topic of gratitude as well, I think it’s inspired this pod podcast. And hopefully, listeners will get something out of it and maybe look upon and reflect. And let’s see what comes out of today. So I’m going to start and Petra, I’m seeing your radiant lovely face here. And we’ll all speak I will be just picking up sure you guys will pick on me too. But when when you say that the word gratitude, what comes to mind for you
a feeling of gratitude. Actually, for me, it’s not a word anymore. It’s just a feeling I feel in my body and feeling to which I turn each time. I feel the West grateful. The least grateful. So whenever I’m struggling, I know I have to turn to gratitude and focus on that. And that will help me shift the whole thing. So it’s so hugely important. And as you said, Now it’s people to talk about gratitude, but I’m not sure that we really feel it and practice it the way we all could. So and I’m not sure are we really aware of the great gift the greatest gifts and brings to us because not just Yes, we should be grateful for the food or for the home or for the health or whatever. But being grateful actually starts a huge shift and starts energetically bringing or creating space for more things that we could be grateful for to enter our lives. And I think that’s the most important thing that really lands for all people.
Yeah, but you know what comes up. And it’s like, that’s easy for you to say, but I am in knee deep in shit right now. And life is constantly pushing, pulling me and prod me around. And I’m gonna swear because I’m not as like, fuck this gratitude thing. This is bollocks. Yeah, I’m really have bigger, bigger fish to fry.
And I can totally relate to that. I know. I mean, all three of us can relate to that. And we’ve all been in really deep shit up here. So in that way, and, and that’s actually what taught us the importance of gratitude, right? Because that helped us get out of this shit. And it’s really, really hard to be grateful in those hard moments. But if we don’t take the opportunity to change the perspective and focus on things that we are grateful for, for we just keep on looping in this shit we are in right so the sooner we start giving gratitude chance and just allowing ourselves to try to be grateful, the sooner we start getting out of the mess we are in. I would say that
what about you, man? What comes up for you?
Yeah, well, I can relate to a lot of what you guys are saying. I think it’s um, it’s very much Through, have been in this industry for the amount of time that I have. It’s, it can be age, it becomes it comes like a it’s a commonality, what did you say? Longer than you’ve been alive? I don’t even know he said, I’m not on what I was gonna say. It can be, it can be just almost like a bypass, it can be like a kind of a tick box. Because it’s it becomes like, I find that a lot of the the whys and tenets of wisdom and this practice and being mindful and being spiritual in all, the basis of them come from a very pure and deep place. And they come, you know, from centuries ago, even 1000s of years ago, some of them in psych. But then what we do in our mainstream personal development spirituality is we try and create little nuggets of like, adaptable, bite sized chunks that we can fit into our busy lives. And so gratitude is one of those that I find that pretty, all over the place, everyone’s doing a do a gratitude list, you know, you’re stuck just to gratitude list, but it’s just, it’s just lip service, you know, and so it then becomes, it becomes kind of worthless, like a lot of these practices that people don’t really immerse themselves and embody the work to a point where then they actually get the benefits from it, because at the basis of gratitude is an honoring is respecting the life that we have, and letting go of this constant battle that’s inside of us that we’re never going to get out of, as long as we’re in a body is this, this is good, and this is bad, right? And then we are in this place of giving everything meaning and we’re actually trying to find, avoid the pain, and embrace the pleasure. And so in that way, we kind of manipulate and kind of push and prod and move ourselves through life and try and make the outside world this little comfort zone that safe for us. But in essence, it’s not because we’re not safe and ourselves. And so, to me gratitude, this diffuses that, it just takes that whole ego out of the way, that whole part of myself that the nervous system that’s looking for us a threat, you know, it’s just naturally how we’re designed from evolution, it just removes it. And it allows me then to move in that prefrontal cortex where I can actually absorb myself and see things from a larger vantage point and get out of that place of conflict in myself. And I always say in the workshops that then gratitude is like a magnet that aligns you to the essence of all that you are. Because in essence, where this expanse where this flow, where this wholeness, where we have everything that we need desire, or want is the severing of that, knowing through the conflict within ourselves that resists and limits that. And so when we dis fuse that when we let go of that, then we allow the expanse of what is to emerge and inform us and inspire us to move forward in our lives. And so, to me, gratitudes, almost like a backdoor out of stuckness, right? Just so stuck, then I’m like, hey, well, what about the fact that I’m alive, I was listening to your, your podcasts with that Jill Bolte Taylor, that whole thing to Taylor, and she says, um, you know, she went through that stroke, and then she, the whole left side of her brain was just gone. And then she had to rebuild that learn to speak again, and so forth. And then he said in your podcast, she’s like, I’m just grateful to be alive. I’ve got the best gift ever life. And look at where life is going. Since that it’s like just through the roof uses Devin is incredible experiences because she’s grateful for the basis of being alive and what a lesson Hey,
massive. Yeah. I often think yes, Guy. Guy, what’s the question? For me, gratitude is that, you know, you know what was coming to me as you were speaking then Is this a, you know, all suffering comes from separation, you know, from from source from divinity from the Divinity within ourselves. And gratitude is, is the is the connection. It’s, it’s, it’s, it’s almost I’m trying to find the right words here. It’s like reinforcing the the network that’s between source and yourself that’s already there, but you’re actually at By having a gratitude practice and embodying it, you’re you’re just deepening that connection to self to source to heart to soul. And, and I think I mentioned on the call last night, but it’s like, it allows your heart to speak your soul to speak through you if you can start to come from that place. But obviously, the most difficult part of it is when life is not serving you is not going for you, it’s really hard to find even the motivation and the sense of awareness, to stop and take a breath and create space in your life where you can fall into and start to feel into the heart and what you can be grateful for. And it’s there was a wonderful quote, Damon wrote, wrote down the other day, it’s like, you don’t create, it was around happiness. But at the end of the day, the, the essence of the quote is, you just, you’d be happiness. And then the happiness comes. And it’s like, if we can start and it’s not like, we walk around this permanent smile on our face, just ordinary, great grateful all the time. But it’s, it’s having the sense to interrupt the old conditioned selves, and start to recondition the old self, to start to see the world moment by moment with a different lens. And for me, gratitude is that place to be seen from, and we were discussing last night, right Petra, before the call as well, about when you can break down gratitude, and this reflection of the past. So we can look upon the past and in our life and start to Can we start to be grateful for everything, that accumulation has led us to this point right now, which allows us to start to lean into acceptance and healing. And then from there, we can start to become more present, and be more grateful for what we have in this moment. And then from there, we can start looking into the future, and start becoming grateful for the things that are yet to come. I just think, Wow, that is amazing. So
we had gratitude, several epiphanies yesterday,
right. And when you start thinking how powerful that actually is, we can start to lean in and use gratitude to heal our past or whatever things are coming up for us to start to allow that body to then allow us to really be present, and see the gifts that are in front of us the beauty and the other people that other people might not see how often do you meet people and see people or you with someone that see something that you didn’t see, in it, you go, and there opens up a whole new paradigm to me from there. And of course, once you can do that, I think that’s when creation starts to come into play. And you know, and it’s one thing that we are very big on, that’s allowing us to grow into grow, live and flow and bring this message out to more and more people because we are so grateful for what we have, and what led us to this journey. But it’s not without a practice, right. It’s not without the doing of the work. It’s it’s the daily stuff that comes into it. So when I started think about those things. That’s why I get excited and talk about it. And remind myself daily. So what I thought would be nice. While we’re on this topic, then until I open up a little bit. And I come back to you, Petra, for this, but we can share. And I think what because I always remember on the podcast, I always ask somebody, what’s been a low point in your life, this later become a blessing. I think we could kind of riff off that slightly. And has there been a moment recently or further back where you have been in the shed you under the swear curse and look at it, and it might have taken days, weeks or even months to move through. But then able to look back and actually be grateful for those moments, even though you it was hard to see at the time.
There was a question?
Yeah, you want to share some?
Oh, yes, of course. And that’s why I can really say that I feel like I mastered gratitude, and I’ll be mastering it my whole life. Because every time I feel overwhelmed, and that I just cannot cope with life anymore. And it’s just too much. And you know, I had that moment just few days ago and I was crying to you because it was just too many and too much happening at the same time and I just couldn’t take it. And then I knew that if I say that feeling and thinking sorry for myself or angry or whatever, it was coming to me because I really lost myself in that moment that I will just postpone being in that state and I’ll create more and more situations. Like that, because just energetically I’ll be, I will be pulling this the same level of experience and same, same, same kind of experiences in my life. And then I sat with myself and I said, Okay, I need to shft this, and I can do this. And let’s start focusing on things that I can be grateful for. And it wasn’t easy, because part of me was just, you know, being saying in the background. Yeah, yeah. But you didn’t understand, you know, this is just, it isn’t fair. And this is just too much. And but nobody understands me how hard it is for me to be a single mom or whatever, I was juggling too many things. And then I was just like, yeah, I can hear you. But let’s just try, let’s try to focus on things that I can be grateful for. And somehow everything shifted. And somehow, the moment I started focusing on gratitude, all the solutions came. And I was just, I dropped into this peacefulness, and somehow everything started falling into its place, you know, it just started to be solved. But I had to invest energy into stopping myself running in the same circle, I allowed myself a moment to break down and cry just to get that emotional release. And then I shifted, and everything shifted, and I’m in a completely new state now. So, and I wanted to share this because it was pretty recent, and it was an everyday stuff, nothing, you know, huge, like a trauma or something that was just overwhelmed. And everybody can relate to us that we do still have days like that. And we still do the work day. And we still catch ourselves in our old ways of being. But it’s possible, and we can shift it in few minutes, if we
just want to ask a question to Matt, Petra, because he opened up a bit of a loop there and just want to get clear to people what your thoughts are? Is it okay to lose your shit? And not? Because Do you think that can be a misconception? You’ve worked with a lot of people that we it’s, it’s almost like we use growth to for avoidance of feelings. And not allow because you, there’s a couple of key points, you said that you actually allowed yourself to feel it sit in it, but it wasn’t weeks, you know?
Yeah, exactly. It was just maybe half an hour. But I really allowed myself those feelings. And if I wouldn’t have allowed myself that space to feel I would just continue feeling the low vibration feelings, and I will be feeling guilty. So the old me will be feeling guilty, because I’m feeling this way. Because, you know, because of everything that we do, and we get so many people, we shouldn’t have those kinds of feelings, and we should have our shit together all the time. And I will be looping in this guilt, which I used to for years, really, I was feeling guilty for feeling havng feelings. Because I knew how things work, right? But then I learned that I’m human, and I need to allow myself to process those feelings as well. And that I’m learning about myself something that will help me help other people. So now I allow I allow those feelings and I learned to love myself, even in those moments when it’s hard. Because life will be bringing us challenges. And the more we allow ourselves to feel the faster we move through life. We move through those situations.
So yeah, I don’t want to sugarcoat and say, yeah, we don’t have those moments. And you know, we have all the time are everything together. I want to say shit for many times, but yeah.
I think you swear on this podcast. This is incredible.
Yeah, I’ll be quiet. Now. You too can. Swear as much as you want. Yeah.
What about you, man?
I can’t relate to any of that Petra make judgments about who you are as a person to be that vulnerable and be human. I’m so enlightened. I never have my girlfriend say fuck you teach this shit. Why are you acting like a dickhead never happens. Never. It always goes back to I think we we teach what we need to learn the most, don’t we? And as much as I hate to admit it, like the wisdom that I share is because I had to go through it majority of the time and heal myself from many different things. And as you’re as you’re talking about this gratitude, it’s just It’s such a good thing I kind of had a gratitude moment. Yesterday, just feeling as you said Petra a bit overwhelmed about things. And it’s you know, as, as all of us, I think can relate, it’s been a pretty up and down reality the last 18 months. And then it just, it just keeps going back to that silver lining, like every time I feel challenged to come out the other end, and there’s something great there. And yesterday, I was just in that slump. And I was like, wait a minute, what are you doing, you want to be the victim, you want to sit in those pain, you want to keep perpetuating the pain and the and the drama about it? Or do you want to actually do something and be part of the solution for yourself, instead of you know, sitting in the agony of it, you know, we can talk about our, our upsets for a lifetime if we want to, and, and then all that I think there’s this, this thing, like, before I was doing this work, I was always in a computer job and not happy in my soul and using my brain a lot and not really aware of how to open my heart too much or feeling safe to do so but which is an ongoing journey. But I was depressed a lot, or what you may label as depression, and then I’d have very dark nights and and, you know, like to the point of being like in fetal position laying on the ground, like full body sobbing and just feeling like, you know, suicidal, like, the only way out is just to end this, like, what’s the fucking point what’s you know, and, and I went through handful of those kind of experiences and, and it never failed. There was it was like, a series of them happened over a period of like a month, like two or three happened, like boom, boom, boom, and then it never failed. After that really painful night, then I wake up the next day, and something amazing would happen. And it was like the second time that that happened. I was like, oh, if I would have ended it last night and not been in body anymore, I would have missed this, I would have missed this opportunity. And it was like this message that just flashed before me and like I just did, it was embodied in me. And, and it’s like, it’s a sign of failsafe button or something that’s in me now that when I start to spiral down, I get to that point, I’m like, wait, something good is coming. What is that? And can you just hold on a little bit longer? To wait. So you can experience that. And this year, this at last 18 months has been a case in point, you know, and how we, you know, at the beginning of last year, it was like all of our retreats and everything we’ve worked so hard for the year before it was just fell on his face. And then you know, we could have sat there and then depressed and upset and gone through the as we did. Didn’t we guy three times. Guy pull me up the new pull me up, then I pull you up and go. I pull guy up. Yeah, it’s nice to work in a trio. But now look, we’ve got an incredible platform of, of online programs and courses that are supporting the retreats that are now opening up and it’s like we’ve come out the other end or we’re coming out the other end, I’m going to hold on to that site that we are coming out of the end of this. That is much better than we could have ever created if we hadn’t gone through the challenge. So just got to find the gratitude in the shit. End of the day.
There he is. I didn’t want to take any [inaudible]. I know. Yeah. But it’s so so true. Yeah, I mean, we had the opportunity to just be sad and upset and angry and afraid because of the whole situation. And that affected our lives and our work. But then we set and search for things that we can be grateful for, and how we can find a way to bring this work to more people. And actually, it’s all coming back to us now. Right? I mean, our retreats are sold out, months ahead, and we have a beautiful community and we could just be grateful for all the adversities that we had to face to be here with you and we have each other.
Yeah. I mean, honestly not to be a dick about it really grateful to be working with you guys because I worked alone for so long and it’s an incredible thing to have that opportunity and you
You did strike the lottery mate…
Yeah, well that’s all this work I’ve been doing, you know
the ultimate goal receivership gratitude. Yeah, you know it is funny I remember it’s funny how things stick out in your mind when you reflect back upon different things and and you know when you’re in pain doesn’t matter what the instigation of the pain is pain is pain fear is fear and we tend to measure levels of trauma and things and what obviously some there are things that are absolutely horrific but as an internal being when we’re internalizing it all feels bloody shit. You know, not I think wherever we’re at, but I remember I think my auntie halen if you are listening, she does listen to my podcast now. And then so she might not even know this. But I was doing my plumbing apprenticeship. So I was 16 at the time. And, and it was my first year and I when I when I signed up to apprenticeship, it was full recession in Wales, I was on 30 pound a week, this youth training scheme. And to make up the money, I was working in a nightclub at night. And I remember I’d been first week at the job or whatever it was maybe in a loft all day, now I’m six foot four. And you’re in this attic that had fiberglass that was all lined out because obviously Wales gets cold and then laying on the ceilings and I had to run these pipes and I was covered in all this flux and oil and my hair was sent and things burn in and and I was itching and and obviously get dropped off at the bottom of my village Hill and had to walk a mile up the hill at night. When I when I when I came back. And I remember coming back and it was a Friday and I just completed the week. And I just I’ve gone through hell understand what am I doing. I didn’t go to uni. And my auntie had just arrived from because she was living in Surrey. And she she was visiting visit us and my mom was there my mom and I were sitting there having a good old chat and a cup of tea like on a Friday afternoon I wander in just covered head to toe in this fiberglass and and and she looked at me and Cinco de works. And as I Oh and I started complaining, and then she just plantlife, how wonderful is this, you get to do this for the rest of your life. And she was being humorous and sarcastic, but there was a part of her saying welcome to the real world, you have no left school and No. And it absolutely terrified me. And I remember that those words sat with me for the entire apprenticeship. And I got more and more in myself about it. But when I came out, it was actually the catalyst for me to go on a different trajectory, because it was like, there’s no fucking way. I’m gonna do this, but I had no idea what I was gonna do. And I just want to say I am so grateful for that moment in that time, even though I could have just swore at her and left her alone. I don’t even know I wanted to share that. But it’s it’s powerful. It’s really powerful. I’ll be in my book one day, if I ever get the right one. You know, and to tie it to tie up today’s conversation. What are you? What are some helpful things that you do in your life to interact that to come back to that, because what happens if we are listening? And we we don’t have a gratitude practice? Like what what do you suggest? What would you do? And what has helped you transitions through darker periods to get there? Because it’s, it’s all good, once we come out the other side, and we can look back and see the gifts in the difficulties and how we’ve grown more. But when we’re in it, it’s really it can be really challenging. Petra.
Well, you know, just the fact that we survived so many challenges. And that you know, we when we look back we can see that we always have a choice to look at that as from a victim point of view or to start looking at what did I learn just like we did with the group yesterday, what what goods did any experience I had bring, and in what way it helped me be a better person today. And like Matt said beautifully, there is something so great coming after the darkest time of the night. Really It is and it the light showed me so many times. And today I know whether we just have to be patient and wait for life to bring us that. And I learned to trust that there is always a reason why we are going through those challenging times, and that I’m learning something really huge. And I’ll be so grateful for it. Which doesn’t mean it’s easy. So it’s practice, it’s daily practice for us as well to keep reminding ourselves to be grateful and to look for for things, not material things, but for, for stuff that we can be grateful for. And then it just just continues to flow. So it’s practice, it’s not something that you know, that it is just written, and it is the way it is we need to embody, we need to start practicing and being grateful. And yeah, lots showed me that I’ve been through so many, so many hard times, and traumas and stuff that each the hardest moments of my life, were the best gifts of my life. And because of that, I know today that whatever I have to go through, there is a big reason that will be to be so helpful for me in the future, whether for myself or for people I’ll be working with. So I feel grateful for even those times. And I still have moments where I break down and cry, like I just mentioned, but I allow myself that time I cry for half an hour or whatever, whatever time I need, and then it shifts and I just continue moving on. And it’s beautiful. But it took a lot of work to be where I am right now, to be able to say this, I can always say wasn’t easy. It was hard to practice credit, but it’s so rare man.
There’s this, there’s so many things to say I could write a whole course on this maybe I have I think that as you were talking there, Petra, it’s like there’s a couple things that come to mind. And one is with with gratitude, you actually have to create a space for gratitude, I think. And in the in the pace that we’re moving our lives doesn’t allow for that so much. And so I believe for me, that’s that’s one of the tenants of of nurturing gratitude. gratefulness is to have that space for myself, through a morning meditation or morning practice, building that relationship to how it feels to be at peace in myself. And then from that space, then I can open up into Wow, in this in this space, look, feel how the sun feels on my face as the sun’s coming up. And I’m sitting on my veranda meditating and the birds chirping and that you know, then everything becomes beautiful, everything becomes peaceful and becomes a gift. And I think, you know, if you look around it, I see it, you see the guy driving to work next to you in the car, and he’s pissed off because somebody’s driving too slow. And then he’s trying to text on his phone and about ready to crash and like, you know, can’t get through because the signals not there or whatnot, and just having a big fit about everything. But me you got you got a frickin state of the art car that you’re driving on a freeway that’s paid for you the roads right in front of you, you’ve got a technology here that you can call across the planet if you want to, and you got so many amazing things right there. And you’re the palm of your hand literally. And you’re you’re upset. It’s like perspective is the next cake. Right? in that space. Let’s start to get a bit of perspective. We have so much in this world at our fingertips, more so than ever in humanity. And what what do we have to be upset about? Really, you know, it wasn’t, what, 100 200 years ago and you’d be lucky to be sitting by a fire right? In keeping warm. It’s like, Come on, guys. Just Just get some perspective. So maybe maybe set up perspective. chime on your phone is great technology every hour to go off and say, Hey, dickhead, look at all the great things you got in your life. And then pause and watch your life transform.
The key, the key is the key thing you just said, always feel that right. Exactly. And create the space to feel. You know, like you said Petra now what’s coming is is going like you’re going through it. And it’s always the other side. One thing
I’d change change your perspective is key. Like Matt said, really we always have a choice how are we going to look at certain situations, past, present or future Just being aware and keep on reminding ourselves, okay? You’re going wrong way, right? Now let’s change your perspective and look for the good stuff. There must be something good, there’s always something good. We just need to be willing to
look absolutely. Because remembering that conversation just to write this up and touch on both things you said is that when you’re in those, if you have these points, I feel to really appreciate something like to truly, truly appreciate something, it’s good to have really been without that something as well. Like that, to know both sides of the coin, to then I think that’s where it has in my life anyway, when I think of what I have in my life right now, it’s been a long time without it. And now that it’s here, and I’m living it, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate it. Like every day, I remind myself like, There’s not a day that doesn’t go by now. But if I hadn’t been starved of it for a long time as well and gone through those dark moments, then I don’t know how, if I would have been as appreciative as I am right now because of it. So I’m also grateful for that. And hence why I do have space in my life, and giving myself space each day to be gratitude. So just to wrap the conversation up, guys, is there anything else you’d like to add on this conversation today? Before we
something just popped in my head is coming with with the word gratitude. It’s just been playing, I just thought it was too stupid to share, but maybe I’ll share it anyway. Within the word gratitude, is the attitude. And I think that’s what we’ve been talking about is where’s your attitude? And that can make all the difference? You have a positive attitude? Or do you have a negative attitude? And that creates the gratitude that changes things? So it’s your attitude?
I can’t, I can’t believe you are going to share that. Why am I going to be the credit? Just just waiting for the time. Amazing, guys. Amazing. wonderful to have you on the podcast. And please, if you’ve dropped into this, it is up on Instagram, live in flow or guy Lawrence almost lounger these are Petra rose image. We will be there. Right? I think so
I’ve given up on the welspun? I don’t think
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