#110 Fresh off the back of our first two Let Go & Live In Flow retreats in Jan 2020, me, Matt Omo & Petra Brzovic discuss our big take-homes.
– Why awareness is key; we control our lives, not life controls us
– Be pulled by your vision, not pushed by your problems
– Why we should never underestimate how powerful we all truly are
– How Guy’s mum shoulder injury heald more in 3 days at the retreat than in the past 15 years
– Why we don’t need to be broken to lean into this work
– How a community can help us grow quicker
About Petra: Using various body & mind healing methods, Petra is committed to helping clients who have experienced trauma and suffer from fears, phobias and anxiety. Thanks to the extraordinary techniques that help make us aware of the wisdom of the body, Petra is also helping people who are suffering from chronic or acute diseases, in order to get answers to the question of why the disease emerged in the first place so that they can heal on all levels.
About Matt: Matt Omo is a leader of the sound healing movement in Australia with over 15 years experience working with a variety of sound healing techniques bridging cultures and traditions from around the world. Matt holds a MA in Spiritual Psychology, Dip. of Sound Healing, Reiki Master, Certified Kundalini Yoga Teacher, trained Breathworker, with numerous certifications in other healing modalities. Matt is also the co-founder of Be Still & Chill Health and Wellness a respected and thriving health centre in the northern beaches of Sydney, Australia.
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Guy: Hi, my name is Guy Lawrence. And thanks for tuning into my podcast today. If you’re enjoying these conversations and you want to check out more of this transformational work, be sure to come back to guylawrence.com.au and join me as we go further down the rabbit hole. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Hi, my name is Guy Lawrence. And thanks for tuning into my podcast today. If you’re enjoying these conversations and you want to check out more of this transformational work, be sure to come back to guylawrence.com.au and join me as we go further down the rabbit hole. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Beautiful guys, we’re on the podcast. Welcome.
Matt: Thank you.
Guy: You need to open your mouth,
Matt: I thought we could just acknowledge with a notch.
Guy: Yeah, well you know,
Guy: if you’re listening on iTunes it’s much harder. But um, of course it’s, it’s very rare that all three of us are together cause naturally Petro, you’re in Croatia and Matt while you’re in Sydney. And uh, while I’m in Byron Bay and we are all in Mullumbimby right now, are we in Mullumbimby Valley?
Matt: Pretty much, yeah. Run this, the outskirts of Mullumbimby. Yeah. For property. Yeah.
Guy: We’re actually a, in this, it consists in the video. We’re actually at a friend’s place, Ronnie to us open table cooking and she’s lent us her big mashallah. Sharla is incredible here. It’s we, so let’s record the podcast. So we here today anyway, and we’re off the back of our second living fro retreat of 2021 already. We did them back to back. Both sold out. Yeah. Our bodies are still intact. Just, just, just, just about, and it was a, I still, we’re still trying to find the words and we were talking just before we started recording this podcast about the things that, how do we even capture what we’ve been through and witness with everyone into a half hour conversation. But we’re going to do our best, right? I’m going to do our best
Matt: again. Use your voice. [inaudible] never make it on radio.Hahaha…
Guy: so we were wondering this write five key points that they kind of take on that would help people listen to this. And I’m still trying to figure out what the hell it is we do at retreats and why are they so wonderful? But the list has grown as well. There’s more than five. That’s what happens when we give Patrick the pen. But that’s okay. Again. Yeah. So let’s start with the first one. Let’s just rock and roll into it. So Petra, I need you to read that out cause I can’t read it.
Petra: It says that we often lose awareness that we control our lives. Not the other way around. The life controls us, huh?
Matt: Yeah. Let’s begin.
Guy: Yeah. That’s here. Just to start off with that.
Matt: It’s pretty much treats
Matt: flow in it.
Guy: Yeah, absolutely.
Petra: We notice the first data people come completely unaware of the power they carry inside of them.
Petra: afraid, scared, hopeless, feeling hopeless. Um,
Guy: many are, there are many there too that are just openly curious as well that want to just continue to lean into this work as well, which, which is exciting.
Petra: And them know us from other workshops and stuff
Petra: and they know that we have a lot of fun and when are together. So they come and they trust us.
Guy: Yeah. Why do you, why do you think it is that we feel like we’ve lost control of our lives then?
Petra: Well, become unaware of our power because of the, and really unconsciously, right from day to day.
Guy: we do.
Petra: Um, so we just keep on being occupied with things that are coming into our lives. And if we don’t practice the awareness and the meditation and coming back to, to ourselves and medical mission and being aware of our own thoughts and emotions, we easily get lost with everything that’s bombarding us from outside. And we lost.
Guy: It’s, it’s all, it’s almost like we lose our own. And I always think of Tony Robbins when I say this, cause you know, but, but our own personal power, like w when, when we get so caught up in our day to day lives of the business who are, we kind of lose an aspect of ourselves. And sometimes it’s been lost for so long. I know it was for me personally that actually forgot it was even there. And without awareness to start looking at these things, we, we need to acknowledge that part of ourselves first. And, and I think even coming to the retreat is an, an acknowledgement to a degree that we’re ready to start looking, you know, um, but it can be so, um, it can be so debilitating from that point of view. And then all of a sudden we get caught in that spiral. And then we think we accept, believe and surrender to our circumstances to the way things are. And then because we’ve given our energy ways to so much to everything else, we ended up, um, thinking that we can’t change and, and thinking we can’t do much about it. And, and this is how it is.
Petra: And because of the way that many of us have been raised and thinking that we need to still give up public to authority, whether it’s our parents or schooling system or government or whoever, we continue on conscious living that way until we realize, Oh, wait a minute. I mean, I’m the one who is choosing the way I want to leave and I have the power to change things. Um, so yeah.
Guy: Yeah, yeah. It’s a big one. Any a wisdom? A number, man.
Matt: Yeah. No, I think you guys are nailing it at this point. I’ll, I’ll come in when I’m [inaudible] part of this podcast. I’m just trying to get my head around. Well, the thing is is that as we start to open any of these things and it’s just a lot, I just naturally lean into the retreats and all that wisdom is there. I’m like, Oh, it’s the podcast. We’ve got to kind of keep it succinct to the point. So I’m like, how far do I want to lean into that? Because you know that what Petra was, was speaking to is the crux of it all. Is that awareness and, and that’s a, that’s a huge subject, isn’t it? It is. Yeah. But the positive is, is that we, you know, it’s a practice and it’s a skill and you can certainly
Guy: develop that in the self-awareness grows. And, and if we’re willing to lean into even the self-awareness, then we’re, we’re really willing to start to go look under the hood within the self and, and start to maybe bring things up that we’d been fearful to look at and, and address, you know, and, and, and quite often that these, these things be, can be feel like monsters because we are, we’ve allowed them to grow in our own self or in our own minds. And, you know, and quite often when we start to look at these things and address like, Oh, actually that wasn’t so bad after all, huh? You know, and I made it about this and it can be something else. And, and what we witnessed, we had pretty much about 70 people come through in the last, uh, last week and every single person got it.
Matt: And it was beautiful. Just that alone. Hmm. Okay. I think, well, at the end of the day it comes down to like all those challenges in those stressors in our lives that we think we just can’t overcome. You know, it’s like we put those in place to begin with. So in essence, we have the capacity then to create something new because we were the ones that actually created it to begin with. Yeah. And then we come up against ourselves and we just, you know, like you say, relinquish our power and just say, Oh, well, all these things are happening to me. Instead of realizing, well, actually I started to implement this process and these choices and these actions that I took in my life to create the situation that I’m in, to then have this experience that I’m having and it’s not actually happening to me. It’s happened because of me and through me as the choices and the actions I took based on the feelings and the thoughts that I held in that moment.
Matt: Yeah. Write that and then just rewinding it back. And I think that’s the cool thing about the retreats is we have that space and to pull people out of their conditioned responses in everyday experiences so that they can come in and start to go at the source point. You know, what is inside of me, the thoughts and the feelings that I’ve been holding that I’ve been suppressing, not actually looking at to build that awareness so that I can then start to create a new perception of things and make different choices, take different actions to create a new reality for myself. So inside out, sort of
Guy: see, I knew he had some profound words once he gets gone. Yeah. And the last thing that before more than the next point that triggered, Oh, we have one as well. We’re like, we’re back at the retreat. For me, it’s that discomfort drives us forward and we fear it so much and I think they the great places to look. So as we get uncomfortable it, it does, it drives us into action. And, and the key is, is don’t wait for the discomfort to grow unbearable where it feels overwhelming.
Matt: That’s um, you know, who would say the, the pain is going to push you out of that or the vision is going to pull. That’s a,
Guy: yeah, Reverend Michael quote. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. And, and it’s so much greater to two and it’s difficult to get if we don’t have the vision and it’s the pain that’s pushing if we lean into this, and I would encourage anyone that’s in a great place that wants to really help redefine the vision to come along to this tool. Like it doesn’t need to be this painful experience almost. Cause I’m broken and, and it can be just as exciting to have a vision that’s pulling you forward. Um, absolutely. And you wanted to mention one thing.
Petra: Yeah. What just came to my mind is that we often forget that everything in our lives that’s happening for a greater reason and for our grade is good. And if we would try to find in every situation what’s actually this thing or this situation teaching me and what I’m learning from here and how can I grow, it becomes so much easier. And it’s the empowering moment when you realize,
Guy: let me realize that. That’s huge. Yeah. All right. Next point. Petra. Next point. Well I would read it out but I, I’m trying to figure out what that first letter is. Yeah. Writing after a week of retreats, that was one that you were challenging the power in that. Absolutely. Cause I w for me, and I wanna say this on the podcast as well, like cause you know, when we, when we see people, we can often see things in other people that people can’t see in themselves. And then, and then we forget that other people are looking upon us. And I seen things in us that we can’t see upon ourselves. So it works all the way around. Nobody’s immune to it. But from doing this work, like I, you know, hand on heart, we can all agree that there is an immense power within every single, each individual human.
Guy: It’s just having the w we need an open willingness to look at that and start to lean into and allow that to come through. And I don’t care what your age is, what your demographic or your qualifications or whatever it means. And we’ve witnessed some amazing things. And for me, the most incredible thing that I wanted to bring up on the podcast was last weekend I was able to bring my mum through the retreat who is 75 years old, who could hardly lift the foot up onto a step. You know, her mobility wasn’t great, but she, she had the openness and willingness to give this a crack and she blew me away. Like I was, I was the word. Yeah, I was the word son and I wanted to rush over and help her up off the mat and she went, I’m going to Barb it.
Guy: She’s like, you just do your thing, sign like I’m, I’m good. You know? And she was leaning into the community and the most magical moment that’s going to live with me forever is, is on, I think it was the end of what a day to day was after the one and a half days, the second day, which is the first full day. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. So it’s like, so we read about a day and a half into the retreat and my mum had an accident 15 years ago on broke her collarbone and uh, and ever since she never got her mobility back in her arm and she couldn’t lift her shoulder during this one. She couldn’t lift her arm above shoulder level. Like she was struggling to even scratch the back of her head. And she’s lived like this for 15 years. In one of the sessions we saw her, I watched her hold in our arm and I’m like, Oh, something’s going on here. And she came out and she could lift her arm straight up above her head and she was, she just had this look on her face, like absolute all
Matt: that never left her face from that point. I don’t think she put her arm down there. She walked through the door with her hands sticking up like,
Guy: and, and that, that’s how powerful these processes are. But it was her that was allowing that to, to facilitate that response. And, um, and it’s just, yeah, for me that was a magic moment. It was a huge reminder, especially as a son, um, to see my mom step into her own self-empowerment, you know, like it was just incredible. But we all have it right there with so many great, great things we wouldn’t miss.
Petra: Yeah. I mean each, each one of them.
Guy: Oh, every single person there.
Petra: Beautiful being and
Matt: well that’s, that’s one of the biggest tick. Sorry, did I cut you off? Cause you gotta head, your lips pierced in and you’re like, when I started talking, I got this look like daggers coming at me. Like better shut up. Please continue to hold that thought or this age moment. Yeah, there’s always a moment, isn’t there? Between us, they were learning as well, but that’s one of the most biggest, the biggest takeaways I find from that. You know, when we, we sit in that space and it’s like, you know, the first day or two, it’s about unwinding from all that gas and all that stress. And then you finally find that space and you drop in and it’s like in that space is a silence, which is creating an opportunity for a listening. And it’s just simply that listening and being able to listen to each other instead of like, you know, talking to [inaudible] then that you get the wisdom from each other and you get the mirror back. It’s just astonishing, you know? And ah,
Guy: it’s like once we get our of our own way, we give our body permission to do what it naturally wants to do, but we gotta remove that part. The, the mind, the chatter that has the chaos that’s constantly driving the nervous system. I see. You know? Yeah. It’s fascinating. Was there somebody Rogers?
Petra: No, I just wanted to mention when you were talking about you and your mom, which is a great lesson, is there as well observing you allowing to care for your mom instead of caring for her. And that’s something important that we get lost in our lives because often when we see somebody that we love and really care for them, that we want to take part of their burden and do things instead of them. Yeah. And it was so, I mean, I was really deeply touched, observing you, holding the space for all people, with the two authors and watching your mom doing all those things that are challenging. They were challenging for her and not going there to help her, but letting her find her own power. And I think that’s what we all need to do in our lives because we, if we, if you would have stepped in and did things instead of her, what we tend to do in our lives, we actually gave a message to that person. You can’t do it. And we take the power from them. Yeah. So beautiful.
Matt: Yeah. And it was hard, but it was huge. You know, and it’s, yeah, yeah. Incredible. All right.
Matt: There’s a, there’s a tremendous amount of, of rescuing I think happening in our world and our society. And then it becomes like, you know, people want to be the rescuer and save other people and say the planet and save this and you know, and, but at the core of it, they haven’t even saved themselves, you know? And it’s like, find that wholeness in yourself to hold that space, become the example and the empowered individual that then inspires other people to step into that same space. And I think, I mean, that’s at the crux of it all, isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. It’s massive. It’s beautiful to watch. Totally. Totally. It’s great lesson for me when I’m going to be at
Matt: parents soon as well. That’s another topic. Counting the minutes, look in his eyes like, Oh, innocence. [inaudible] I’d be honest, being naive has got me a long way in life. [inaudible] so I’m just going to keep that going. I sit my coffees in time alone right now. Yeah. All right. Moving on. Moving on. This girl
Petra: that we don’t have to, which you basically touched a little bit. We don’t have to wait to be broke or broken or having major life problems to come to these retreats. Yeah, yeah.
Matt: I look at it. Um, should I use that? No. No. Okay. Do that now. [inaudible] um, but I, I look at it and um, and I remember reading a book many, many years ago and I can’t remember what it even was, but that doesn’t help. So it’s not even relevant to the book, but this is probably my, you know, but I look at the, as I was explaining it to you, I look at everything as hardware and software, right? You know, we’ve got the hardware,
Guy: the physical aspect of the body and then we’ve got the software which is, you know, consciousness in the mind and, and we need to address both really and nurture both all the time. So they run efficiently. So you improve the hard drive, which, and then, and then the software is going to run by that brief. We have a couple of zeros and ones in the hard drives that are not programmed incorrectly or of like, cause you know when we recommended fragmented, cause when we arrive we’re like Hey, you know we’ve got this clean hard drive and then life is inputted in the zeros and ones really put meaning. And then as we run the software, it keeps like every, you only need a couple of zeros and ones out and every time it runs through it, it’s going to blip and then it’s going to have this response. You know? So for me as I’ve learned into the work more and where I wanted to allude to is that, you know, I’m always going to have zeros and ones that are gonna end up, you know, being out of sync and different areas of all myself, whether it’d be the body or the, even the software that we run.
Guy: Right. So from that,
Matt: hi. Hello. Let’s give her space [inaudible]
Guy: we are recording a podcast right now. That’s beauty. Yeah. Wow. What a great space. [inaudible] space. Nice one. Yeah, it’s a nice microphone you’ve got. It’s all. Look at it. What a great day or so, like amazing lighting and amazing, it’s not so windy. It’s silent. Yeah. Yeah. That’s good.
Petra: I’m good. [inaudible]
Guy: I’ll let you continue. Well we appreciate that. I going to have to kick you out in a minute. Zeros and ones the hardware and the software. Yeah, exactly. So, so the, the point being is, is that life, so I was gonna, you know, create defragging of the hard drive and, and things to run efficiently. So I look at it whether there’s a lot of zero one zero zero one stuff to kind of defrag from, from life’s experiences to just wanting to tweak and upgrade so we can upgrade the software version and continually improve upon what we’ve already built. So I think, so I think really it doesn’t matter cause I’m forever learning and I’m just fortunate that this is our chosen path and this is where we are until we get to be involved in there a lot more. But it’s incredible how I feel the hardware and software continues to upgrade, you know? And I think there’s such a misinterpretation around the work we do a lot with when it comes to that, which actually reminds me, if I can jump in my eyes, I said a word, I was in complete space of listening
Matt: to beautiful words.
Petra: The beauty of the work we do, and especially the process we guide our students throughout retreats, is taking care of the hardware and the software. And because people often tend to forget that it’s so important to take care of and create our new cells to be able to be living here in this reality, in this earth with anything that is coming instead of diving only in meditations and floating around in space and you know, being as spiritual beings and then they need to go back into their lives and they’re lost again. And I think the beauty is that we really empower people to empower. We really help them to empower themselves and power themselves and, and to be able to really be present here in this life with all the dignity that we teach them and, and constant guidance from the above. Right. Totally. Well, we talked about the other static load, right. And in the retreats as well, and that compound and affect the different stresses in their lives and being able to bring it back, you know? Okay, now we need to do
Matt: no. Yeah, no, I think that’s good.
Matt: Incredible what you just mentioned that that’s one of the things I love about this work over where we’re taking it is because my journey has taken me through some really wild and wacky rabbit holes.
Matt: We can’t even start talking about these stories on there. All right man, let’s keep it. Let’s keep, let’s keep it [inaudible].
Matt: You know, interdimensional lifetimes. It’s like, but then it doesn’t do any good. You know, and it’s like we’re here in a physical body for a reason and it just, it just blows my mind that more people aren’t embodying the work. And it’s like, you know, if you think about it, we’re, we’re spirit, you know, the larger part of who we are is spirit, right? So the essence of us is that, and that doesn’t even actually exist in time. Okay. Yeah.
Matt: We’re only here for a moment. I’m not going to take it out there. I’m not going to pop [inaudible] on the ground.
Matt: No. All right. So we’re in, we’re in this body for what, 80 to a hundred years maybe. [inaudible] whatever. It’s a limited amount of time. And so if you take that amount of time and you compare it to eternity, like there’s a little bit gap, a bit of a gap there, isn’t it? But we’re spending time trying to get back to eternity instead of trying to be in time and embody each moment that we have here, which is such a, a blip. I know. And it’s like, so it’s like instead of trying to get out of body to spirit, we should be bringing spirit into body towards, I guess what the essence of what I’m trying to say with bucket to. Yeah,
Matt: no, that’s perfect. You nailed it. That’s what we do,
Matt: you know? And it’s just so exciting for me because I’ve been in this industry for a long time and it’s like spiritual tourism is at its peak, you know?
Matt: Yes. You know? Let me just see what next experience I can. Yeah.
Matt: I like trip me out and have this, you know, interdimensional whoo happened to me so that I can just tick it on off the list, a bucket list and bucket list and like tell my friends I’m cool because I did this, you know? Yeah. It’s not what it’s about. It’s about how do I live more empowered so I can enjoy my life to the fullest and have the deepest, meaningful relationships in them as I blink and I’m gone before I blink and I’m balling. You know? It’s like, absolutely. That’s the beauty of it and we see the light in these people’s eyes and how it ripples into their lives and their relationships and ah,
Matt: my purpose has been, sorry, I can die now. Yeah,
Petra: yeah, yeah.
Petra: Which brings us to that change can be fun. We take people through so many different processes and [inaudible] processes. Okay. And bit of mine will be processes, but then again,
Matt: I’m careful. His point. Yes. Glass house throwing rocks.
Petra: People can really bring the wisdom down into their bodies and in their lives. And all three of us are,
Matt: there was a huge amount of laughter over that weekend. Just a little bit. Yeah. You know, and how good was it when it began to rain and we all just run up to the pool fully close to celebrate and just jumped in. I like, it was like,
Matt: I dunno, like everyone, it was like being a kid again for everything. Yeah.
Matt: Far I’ve run like those moments, you know, will live for you forever. It’s just incredible.
Matt: But yeah, it, it, and that’s the other thing. I think there’s such a, I don’t know, like you were saying earlier, like this, Ooh, there’s a Syrah nurse,
Matt: spirituality and seriousness has gotten immeshed and people would just get into this place where their life feel like they’re being sacred. And the essence of spirit is joy and laughter. It’s childlike. So if you’re not, if you’re not repeating that joy is kind of [inaudible], you know, wonder and awe and heartedness. It’s like you really kind of miss. It totally is. The ego is the serious. Yeah. You have imposes, you know, yeah. Structure for, and I gotta I have to plug him on, you know, proper [inaudible]
Matt: because you just tell some funny jokes though, right? Like you do get a good, Oh, I think you get an audience, an audience. Right? And then next thing you know, he just can’t help himself. But the thing is, is that I reckon your jokes are coming about down to my level, you know, becoming a new dad here. We’re working on the dad jokes. There’s a few, there’s a few. And by the way, you know, like if you guys want to jab at me about being woo, I’ve got some great footage of both [inaudible] compromising positions of like [inaudible] you’re going back. Oh, did they go backwards? And Coratia we always go from the top down and we go on down, up,
Petra: just listen. I’m listening. That path doesn’t have to define us today. That’s what we’ve seen. That some of the people come living in the past, having some bad experiences coming from really unstable, violent, um, moments, families, um, circumstances and days still. Although there are 40, 50, 70 years old, uh, they still feel leaving that fear and flight, um, mode and they are not even aware that it doesn’t have to be that way. They can live joyfully, they can live in sort of happiness and love. Um, so I think that’s, for me, that was the most amazing process to observe those people, uh, who, this is actually just these three days, right? They went from living in extreme flight of life, some of them, not all of them, of course. And then becoming this beautiful, loving people with open hearts and smiles on their faces. Loving life first time actually.
Guy: yeah, yeah. It’s huge. And yeah, cause your past doesn’t equal your future, you know, but we, if, if our past is our only reference point and that’s all we’ve ever known, it’s very hard to see beyond that because of the, the, the, there is, you know, the, the way the nervous system and the circuitry that we’ve developed that keeps creating, recreating the feelings and the emotions and that, that anxiety response was going in. But if you give somebody enough of an elevated emotion, we can start to elicit a different response. So they have new navigational territory to start to allow the body to lean into and realize that there is more, that there is something else in the moment you hook on to that and really start to feel it. You’ve got a new North star like you’ve, you’ve got, you’ve got more purpose to lean into and, and direction to take that in. And I think that is, is huge and all you have to do is experience it once and that that one’s can be a defining, um, to elicit the, the, the true change and break free from the past. And like you said, it’s just amazing to witness. It’s incredible. So, um, I hope that inspired and now I know that will inspire people listening to this. That really feels stuck in my past. You know, you want to add anything to that, mr. all disasters. A few
Matt: things. I was just kind of thinking about when you send that is it, you know, why is that in place that we’re in that place of having to fear or be stressed or holding onto the past? And it’s what we talk about that it’s creating a comfort zone in us and we, we realize that, Oh, I’ve got to keep these threats at Bay and keep these stresses at Bay to keep myself safe. Or not only just the psychological but the neurological and a biochemical level. Right. So we’re working against our biology and neurology or psychology. Yeah. And so it’s like, you know how you can’t do that with a book? You can’t, you can’t do that. Or just listening to us talk, you can’t right now it’s like the only way you’re going to do that is to have an experience that takes you into that same sort of biology, neurology, and psychology that then you’re held in a safe container to realize that you can actually self-regulate and relax yourself in this stress response and do life differently.
Matt: And then you have a reference point to take it back into your life so that when you have these stressors or these challenges or things coming at you, you say, Oh, remember that thing that I did in that meditation? And I was able to like maintain my peace and harmony within, not so much a conscious thing, but it’s like in your body it’s been taught. Yeah. Literally embody the word. That’s what we’re doing is, you know, cause let’s be clear that challenges never go away. We’re always going to have challenges, but what changes is us and how we respond to the challenges. So if we’re constantly running from the challenges alive, then we’re never given ourselves an opportunity to change. Right. And we’re always going to be past conditioning. Past conditioning. Yeah. And so we’ll give people an opportunity to rewrite that past conditioning so that then they’re conditioned to bring it forward as a new person. It’s without necessarily going back through the same trauma, which God knows.
Matt: Like some people think that it’s necessary. Yeah, I’ve done, I’ve done too much cathartic. You know, forget about it. Yeah. Like, eh, there’s a component that you’ve got to remind yourself to go deep into that and me live that is, it’s just creating more trauma. It’s like that’s not what it’s about. Yeah. Yeah. So transformation of energy, one form to another. Neither created nor destroyed. That’s true. Okay. [inaudible] we got one more. All right. Bring it in. Important part of the whole what community important part of that whole black hole? No. Oh, hole with N w English lessons again. W okay. Sorry guys. Not enjoying my humor. Hey, good. Hey, it goes again. Focus community. The whole, every person that comes to our retreats is bringing exactly what the group needs that we would really like to encourage
Petra: anyone that is, feel they wants to come, but maybe fears because of other people and, and sharing an opening or being seen. Um, first of all, we don’t, we don’t require anyone to open and share what they don’t want to share. And the second thing is that the beauty of the whole process is that each one of us carries exactly the right ingredient for the whole process.
Guy: It’s like one big family. By the time it leaves. And what just blows my mind, and I’ve certainly been guilty of this or a baby bird, baby birds, um, is that we are so connected in our daily lives, right? Social media people work. But yet there’s an element of us that’s I feel is so disconnected and there’s a part of us that is just starving. And I was even thinking about this. It’s like we are, we’re choking ourselves on information but actually starving for something much deeper that’s going on. And we think information is going to work, is going to solve the deeper thing that we’re, we’re actually starving for. And what blatantly obvious is actually community like true support and care and to feel part of something where you can be unconditionally yourself but you know authentically yourself and unashamedly yourself and to find that truth within us. But we, you need to have the community around you to allow you to hold that on and then you can feel great at something else. I feel part of something else. But yet we were so frightened of giving ourselves up permission to be in that it’s crazy.
Matt: And not only that, that you get to be a part of something else, but then that’s something else becomes even greater than than what it, what it is. It’s like how many times we go through, it’s like, Whoa, that was incredible. We can’t get any better than that. And then people come in and what they bring just amplifies it to that next level and it’s like you can’t script it. You can’t, you know, and it’s just mind blowing how things ping and bounce off of each other. Inspire one another and then we create this synergy and it just roof literally come on.
Guy: Yeah. Oh yeah. And it just reminds us all, you know, how special and beautiful it is and to have connection and to have a, I guess a bit of a tribe and a community that we, you, you feel like you can just have a, a conversation that has a bit of meaning to it and depths and care and connection and open up and share and, and be, instead of just talking about the next game of Thrones episode or whatever. Yeah. I did watch games one, so it was pretty good. But you know, arm assist. Yeah, yeah. We losing, yeah.
Matt: In that space. And just the beauty of it and, and what talking about just hearing those words about, yeah, we do, we do spend so much time and energy on trivial things and then we say, Oh, um, I feel so alone. I don’t feel fulfilled in my life. I’m like, well, how much time are you on Netflix? How much time are you on Facebook? How many, you know, like all these different things that you’re not w when was the last time you used to jobs in your heart and like talk to another human and like spoke from what was your authentic truth. You know, that’s what happens in that space. And then it just fills us all up and then we create a, a value. We would discover a value in ourselves. And then that gives us permission to actually sit back and in that knowing that we have a value relaxing ourselves instead of trying to create an image, but then a false image, a false SIM is that then destroys the opportunity for listening. We’re going to hear each other, we don’t see each other and we’re all trying to be something that we’re not. And it’s like, yeah. And just a drop in, in an actual true communication and connection then creates this, this, like you said, well love, no love and kindness and peace. And it’s like, you know what? What do we want to create in this life? Yeah.
Petra: And the realization that actually what we witnesses again over and over again, that we are all the same and then we all won. And whatever I carry you carry as well the way the whole group works and how healing a one person Ellis is the healing of all everybody else. And one story touches at least five other hearts and it just plays a beautiful ripple effect.
Guy: Yeah. Mm. So it’s incredible. Incredible. And I think we’ve covered the points. I think that’s good. We’ve, we’ve been, we’ve timed it well. Um, is there any, um, I always ask them like the point,
Matt: is there any last questions? [inaudible] needs to be a sentence. You don’t have to like grind on, on Jesus. You know, you don’t have to start. No, but like w w let me just give you the question. You’re basing your current reality on your past. I know you listened to his podcast. [inaudible] any last words?
Guy: Ponder on for our listeners, Matt, after everything we’ve covered today, what if, what if perfect. Two words, Petra golfers,
Matt: it’s got to translate from correlation back to English. I’m going to keep it short.
Guy: Never ever, ever underestimate what you’re truly capable of.
Petra: And for me, all that is coming is just, I want to say out loud how grateful I am that three of us have this opportunity to do what we do and learn all these that we were talking about regarding other people that we, the three of us are going through the same altogether and we help each other grow and uh, mirror one another. And I’m beyond grateful for that. So that’s my last going to get emotional now too.
Guy: So it was too many emotions going on. So anyway, on that note, uh, we’re, we’re, we’re, I don’t even know the date. It’s like we’re in January. Um, we got, we were doing 10th, we’re doing six days in Portugal in April, April the 12th, 2018. So over Easter, if you want to join us in Portugal, I’ve never been to Portugal. I hear it’s amazing. The place where we go into is amazing when the Belo and then we have just locked down the dates for one winter retreat in August. A backup near the gold coast where we just facilitated this in Australia in August. We’ve got a waiting list currently happening. Um, we’re already gonna have a huge response cause we’ve now had 170 people go through and they’re telling that they have family and friends. So that’s going to shift pretty quickly. So if you want to join us, just, um, head back. We’ve got a brand new website literally about a launch live in flow.co, right? Yeah. Dot co not.com, not.com. Dot co. we have to be different, you know, there’s no time for it. Yeah. Yeah. So, no. Yeah. So if live in flow.co is not ready, you can come back to my website and all the retreat stuff will be there as well. But it’s all happening. We love Instagram a lot. Facebook. Oh my God,
Guy: guys. Thank you. Thank you.
Matt: Thank you.
Guy: Thank you. And, uh, may long, may long continue.
Petra: See you soon guys.