#89 Off the back of our two sold out retreats in August 2019, we thought it would be great to be able to share with you what goes on from our perspective.
I facilitate the Let Go & Live In Flow Retreats with Matt Omo of Omo Sound Journeys and intuitive therapist Petra Brzovic.
We dive into how our retreat helps people let go of the things that no longer serve them and find more flow in their lives. We also discuss some action steps you can start immediately. Enjoy!
About Matt: Matt Omo is a leader of the sound healing movement in Australia with over 15 years experience working with a variety of sound healing techniques bridging cultures and traditions from around the world. Matt holds a MA in Spiritual Psychology, Dip. of Sound Healing, Reiki Master, Certified Kundalini Yoga Teacher, trained Breathworker, with numerous certifications in other healing modalities. Matt is also the co-founder of Be Still & Chill Health and Wellness a respected and thriving health centre in the northern beaches of Sydney, Australia.
About Petra: Using various body & mind healing methods, Petra is committed to helping clients who have experienced trauma and suffer from fears, phobias and anxiety. Thanks to the extraordinary techniques that help make us aware of the wisdom of the body, Petra is also helping people who are suffering from chronic or acute diseases, in order to get answers to the question of why the disease emerged in the first place so that they can heal on all levels.
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Guy: Hi, I’m Guy Lawrence and you are listening to the Guy Lawrence podcast. If you’re enjoying this content and you want to find out more and join me and come further down the rabbit hole, make sure you head back to the guylawrence.com.au. Awesome guys. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Hi, I’m Guy Lawrence and you are listening to the guylawrence podcast. If you’re enjoying this content and you want to find out more and join me and come further down the rabbit hole, make sure you head back to guylawrence.com.au. Awesome guys. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Matt, Petra welcome to the podcast.
Petra: Thank you.
Matt: Thanks Guy. Good to be here.
Guy: The pleasure is all mine. All mine. So we’re in the midst of just about a duo second retreat tomorrow. We’ve just done one last weekend, which was amazing. And we’ve been discussing about doing a podcast for pretty much months and we finally found the opportunity to sit together and uh, in person instead of all via zoom, which is amazing.
Matt: No concept.
Guy: Yeah, no, I’m going to ask you a question that I’ve been asked every day since the retreat. So if it’s straight, I’ll start with you, Matt.
Matt: me all the time. It’s like this. Okay, go.
Guy: So if, if a stranger stopped you on the street and asked you, what was that retreat about last weekend? Cause everybody keeps asking me and I keep trying to come up with the answers. What would you say?
Matt: Nice. Curve ball. he said you’re throwing a curve ball at the beginning. Um, yeah. So
Matt: what would you say? What was the wether? What was the retreat about? Yeah, yeah. Well I think, oh, we’d just sit in a circle and sing
Guy: combined and then what we do? Uh, I think it’s um,
Matt: well a, it’s like an upgrade. Like a, what was it? Christa said it right. Yeah.
Petra: Windows 10 to windows 20.
Matt: Yeah. Yeah. Just like an upgrade. It’s basically, I feel like we come in, we take inventory, we clear away the old stuff, the old programs that aren’t working and then start to open into new possibilities, new potential through practical processes that gained insight in the moment. Something like that. Yeah,
Guy: Yeah, yeah, Petra?
Petra: Yeah. I would say the same transformation and transformation, the transformation.
Guy: But then again, like if I was the stranger ride, sorry guys, you know, this is.
Matt: I know you’re gonna, you’re going to slam us back. What does that mean? What does that actually mean?
Guy: What was an upgrade mean, you know,
Petra: Going through whatever is calling back from not living the life that you want to live. Becoming aware of that and clearly clearing it and starting to live the life by the last day you’re really in into your new life and yeah, it’s a huge transformation for the first day to the last, right?
Petra: Everybody just so afraid and feel with all these emotions of, of
Petra: what I’m doing here
Petra: because we are in the unknown, right? We don’t tell in advance what are we gonna do. And I think that’s the beauty of our retreats because we really feel each group and listen to each participants and then decide what we’re gonna do and how are we going to support them best.
Matt: We even in the, i n, in that description as well, it’s like, you know what? What’s the new me look like? What is, what does that actually mean? And I think it’s like, what actually happens through the retreats is that we, we create opportunity for people to build resilience in themselves and to actually be able to, to be more comfortable in their own skin, I think is what it’s all about. And then from that space, you have the capacity then in your life as everything’s bouncing around as it does to actually stay grounded, stay connected to what your, your passions are, what your desires are, what your inspirations are. And then from that you can move from that space instead of trying to grab stuff outside of yourself to create this sense of joy and sense of comfort in yourself. You find the comfort first, build the resilience to maintain that through all the stresses and then be able to maintain that in your life.
Guy: it feels like we’re almost flipping what we’ve been taught and in Western society to a degree. Yeah. You know, cause there’s always this mechanism that we’re, you know, we, there’s almost like a, um, a path that we kind of lead. And quite often we don’t question it, which is, you know, you go to school, you got an education and you’re, you’re, you sort of been institutionalized to a degree. We need infrastructure of course, and this is the way it works. But then from there, you know, we, we ended up meeting some or fall in love, then we get married, then we get a house and then we have a secure job. Then we pay off the mortgage and, and we moved toward this. We kind of just jump on this path and off we go. But quite often when we start, like I’m noticing people are coming in younger as well, which is amazing.
Guy: But for me it’s like..
Matt: You’re getting younger through the retreats.
Guy: Yeah. I’m getting younger. Look at me, I’m going.
Matt: So you.
Guy: That’s why I don’t shave my, you know, other ones you would see. Oh yeah, yeah, totally. Um, but then we get to a point in our life where all those things haven’t fulfilled us, but then we are so in sort of so caught up in all of it. There’s a, there’s obviously a lot of fear that can be wrapped around that because then what do we do? Like everything that we’ve built the life upon can feel like it’s falling apart, but at the same time we’re not sure of if, if that is actually a viable option does actually start leaning into that, you know? And then we can take years and years and then you, um,
Matt: all right.
Guy: Yeah. You know,
Matt: it’s interesting. As you explain that
Matt: that as like, that’s what we’re conditioned into and moving towards in our lives is the, you know, what we should do or how we should be and um, you know, the, the paradigm of, of our society, it’s like, I know all of our journeys have been when that’s broken down and then leaning into things that we don’t, we don’t know, like, well, we don’t know what’s next. We come to a place where there’s a breakdown and then there’s, we have no other choice. And then we lean into something new and that’s what’s allowed us to actually move into these careers and these lives that I think I’m more aligned with our hearts. And last weekend just being at that women’s conference up on the gold, it was like all the speakers was like a theme through the whole weekend was that their careers and being successful in what they’re doing came from a different place than their education a lot of the times. And like, you know, they went through school, they did these certain things. So they’re in this marriage or in this like kind of certain construct and it’s when that broke down or when something inspired them to move outside of that, that then they found this niche or found this opportunity that created this great success in their lives. Yeah. So the like, yeah, why did you do that?
Guy: Exactly. How are we framed to celebrate the true self? Right. It’s almost like we’re, we kind of keep suppressing it, but that’s what’s actually gonna allow us to bring us the joy in our lives if we allow that to come through us. That’s already within us. I mean, what about you Patrick? I mean, Sam, your resume, right? Isn’t where the hell did he get that from? Like, you know what I mean? It was, it was from living and doing this work.
Petra: Yeah. Just like Matt said, I’m in my life was completely different before and unfortunately I love myself to really fall, really fall and allow my life to collapse and then start living the life that I want. So, um, that’s not what we need to do. I mean, we don’t have to wait to be really ill or really broken in any way or in any area of our lives to start living the lie that we want and to start following our heart. Right. And that’s what we teach our retreats, that people really start listening to their truth and living their truth without needing need to fall apart all the way.
Guy: Can I ask you another question on that then? Sorry, I’m just going to prod and poke a little bit, you know, but no, we’re used to it. Cause you, you mentioned, you know, there was that moment where the Hector to break before you move through, what do you think was holding you back at that point? What couldn’t you see that you can look back? The wisdom now?
Petra: Um, I would said it was so unreal for me because my society and my environment for me in a way that I didn’t believe that it could be possible and that I truly have the gift that I have and that it’s something that just doesn’t exist in this world we live in. Right? Totally. And I should go to this university and, and have this life and live this way because that’s what it’s like expected. And I was suppressing my, my gifts and I was suppressing my talents because I wasn’t living in an environment that was supporting it. And when w when I try to speak about it, I was loved it. So I just put it aside and I, I was nourishing it, but kind of secretly.
Guy: Yeah. Okay. So then there was a moment where, and there was, I often joke about this because there was a moment where I feel like I was coming out of the closet like you. So now I’m just going
Speaker 5: to tell her what I’m doing, this work. And this is also because it’s, it’s what brings me joy. Right? And we’ve got some footage from the [inaudible] bringing out as a cousin. Yeah. With the, that goes viral. A Dubai. Sorry.
Guy: So what, y just to, to touch on that then, where did the confidence come from for you to really start honoring and embracing your true self?
Petra: Well, the good thing is that actually I am pretty stubborn.
Speaker 5: That starts to surprise to hear coming out of your mouth. I never would have expected [inaudible] no, not you. Petra and I have the drive, right? Yeah. You do love. And we have photos of that as well. Yeah. I think you’d try it. Yes. Get your, she wrote racist. Yeah.
Petra: Um, got this. Got Us. Yeah. So that’s what’s actually pushing me. Um, when I had nowhere else to go, I mean, I could start rebuilding the light that I had, but I wasn’t happy with that life or I could start building the new life and that’s where I invested my energy.
Guy: Yeah. Yeah. It’s interesting isn’t it? And another thought I wanted to raise because what was so apparent and clear with the retreat last week is that you’ve got all these strangers coming together with all this nervousness and apprehension and fear. You know, like what the hell am I doing here? What the hell are these guys going to take us through? Cause we keep everyone in the unknown as well. Every, every session that we cause. We want to create that anticipation of feeling cause that’s what life’s all about as well. We try and control everything. But what was clear was that people were closed off initially and and frightened. But by the end of it it was like, uh, one huge family and they were bonds and connections made for life and people were willing to be vulnerable and share and, and it was, you just couldn’t stop them. In the end it was like this infection contagious. And one thing it reinforces for me every single time we do this work is how crucial it is to have just human connection and um, feel belonged to something and share and, and feel those bonds. Yet. Why do you think it is that we, we are so frightened to go there, but yet it can be so healing in itself because it’s an unknown thing. It’s the unknown. Again. [inaudible]
Petra: it’s a beautiful fail-over as well. You know, your fear of failure. Failure. I’ve been having [inaudible]
Speaker 5: do you mind the wine? Everyone together. That’s just peninsula nation of divine is the wine. So on the ritual we have lots of the wine, the wine opportunities are happening, right?
Petra: So sanity failure. Yup. Good. Yup. Pavier what is it?
Guy: Well we can, we got us out so much, right? Like we, we have this protective self.
Matt: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m a bit conflicted in that, in that question. It’s an interesting one because it’s like our basic need is to fit into the tribe is to fit, fit into community and that and we have all these opportunities to do so. So why are we so guarded to any of that is quite an interesting construct.
Petra: Probably because we had been judged for hmm, who we truly are and now we are afraid to be challenged again. If we really show what we truly are our true selves. Right. And I think that’s a, the beauty of the retreat is that we really make sure they feel safe and comfortable and they really know they’re safe and accepted and then nobody will judge them. And in the end they realize we are actually all saying, and each one of us is mirroring the other one. So there’s no need to be ashamed or guilty or afraid because what I can read myself, you have my test and any other person in the group and that’s why we learn and that’s what really brings relief because we are finally allowed to accept who we truly are.
Matt: Yeah. Through that space of being held and heard and yeah. So it’s like those, those judgements that are something we picked up, right? Yeah. And then it’s just this noise in our heads that creates this illusion of separation. It’s like you have to be that way. Well we, the three days, boom drop in and we’re like a family and everyone’s uniqueness is what makes that exactly. And it’s like, and that’s, that’s what I think we try and be something to, to fit in. But forgetting that the reason that we actually came into life as, as us as our unique self is because of that uniqueness. It’s like that that is the one gift that we have is that there’s nobody else like us and that’s a truly allow that to resonate into, to come through our lives then allows us to then click into the wholeness of humanity in life in general because life requires the individualities to create the this, you know, beautiful mess of a masterpiece that we are. Yeah. We are painting together.
Guy: If it makes me think of that meme quote I shared last week, you know, it’s, you know, we spent enough time trying to fit in. It’s time to stand out and absolutely. Yeah. You know, everyone has an opinion about everyone, whether it’s good or bad. Yeah. And on the moment, we can sort of have that in the, in a self to know that if it’s coming from heart and coming from the essence of us and it’s coming from the right place, then it’s up to everyone else, whether how they want to proceed and put their judgment on you, because then again, they’re just mirroring what’s already within themselves anyway. The sooner you can let it go and start following and leading, leaning into that, which is what we talked about a bit earlier, you know. Alright. Alright, so here comes another one. No, no, no, no.
Guy: I’ve got [inaudible] I’ve got a bullet point here and it makes me think about the topic of always striving and chasing something we’re chasing. So let’s, let’s touch on that a bit because I think everyone, including myself, will all relate through to this. You know, was there a question in there? You can you kind of read my mind? So one son, that camera there, [inaudible] school over there. So, but I think, I think it’s a great, um, a great discussion to have because even at the moment, like you’ve been, uh, you’ve been very inspiring this every day since you’d been hanging up your mate. Um, cause you’ve been, you’ve been hitting the beach first thing in the morning, you’ve been watching the sunrise, you know, and you spoke about the metaphor with the sun. So talk us through that and how that is a good one. How about this meditative [inaudible] in me, it’s like, well, it’s inspiring.
Matt: I would say it’s such a, it’s such a gift to them where you got your kids here, but yeah, to be able to be up here in this beautiful area with no kids and no responsibilities.
Guy: Yeah, I do my meditations every day. I’ve got two hours on the beach. That’s, no, so
Matt: this idea is that the sun, like you sit on, it’s beautiful that we get the, the east to watch the sunrise over the, over the water and it’s like, you know, there’s this illumination that happens, you know, from darkness and it’s like, becomes this like Hue of light. And then you sit and you wait and you wait and you wait and it’s like, it seems to go on forever. Um, and I’ve been sitting in a place of meditation and toning into that space that expands. Then once that sun hits it, like, and then as we all know, it just comes up really quickly then. And it’s like I sit there and it just hit me a few days ago. I’m like, Oh, am I chasing, you know, in my life, where am I doing? I’m chasing after my dreams, my goals, my, you know, all these things that I want to create. But when I come to watch the sunset, the beauty of life that’s embedded in that moment and being present with what is, we’re hurdling through space, like, you know, so quickly and the sun is moving and life is just flowing and wanting to come through and it’s coming to us. But just sitting there and like everyone else is missing it cause they’re running around doing their, their lives. And if you just stop and sit, it’s gonna come to you. And that’s so true about so many things. In my life. [inaudible]
Guy: can I ask you if you’ve been guilty of striving?
Matt: Always. Always. Whether it’s a career, whether it’s money, whether it’s relationship, like always reaching, always driving, always going after something. And it’s, for me, what my, my has been is, um, I’m, you know, pretty stubborn, like you and determined and you know, have that, those, those qualities as well. Do things. A little OCD sprinkles in there and don’t put that mat there is crooked. Straighten that Mat. That’s chairs are not exactly right. Um, yeah, it’s all there. I mean, that’s it, but so it’s a push and it’s a dry that my determination is so strong is that I’ve got to exhausted myself until I collapse. And then when I crashed, it’s like the surrender happens and then that’s when life can come to me instead of actually just going and sitting with what’s coming in and just being present. I push, I run, I chase, I drive.
Matt: And then either push people away or push the goals away. It’s like I always have see this analogy of like, you know, if you have a beach ball in a, in a pool of water and in our heart of this to get it and like you’re trying to grab it and just like goes away from you. It’s like, that’s like the goal is, but if you just sit there and eventually it’s gonna come around and you can just embrace it. Yeah. It’s like similar kind of concept, so, yeah. But your gears are turning out, right? No, I know. I know it. Yeah.
Petra: Well, it’s so important, really this serenity. I think it captures, uh, the truth of life that we, instead of running off the line, we should allow life to come to us and all we need to do is really be, um, clear what we want to achieve, what we want to, you know, in our lives and keep on tuning into that and keep on allowing enough time to meditate, to be with ourselves and to, and again with what we want in our life. And then allowing life to come, like allowing sun to rise instead of trying to make it.
Matt: The tuning into a part is is important as well, and it’s like they could go down the metaphysical rabbit hole with that one. It’s like, you know, your vibration is creating the reality that’s around you, but it just on a practical like physical construct, it’s like as you start to focus on the gratitude or the joy or the New Year Raz system, your, your brain is actually designed to filter out all the other noise is going to focus on what’s your accustomed to is the yellow jeeps syndrome, right? Yeah. You don’t have to see a yellow jeep until you get one and then it’s everywhere. Same kind of thing. Fear of holding joy and gratitude. You’re not going to see the opportunity to join gratitude unless you’re holding that, so the more you hold it, then the more you see it and then you have the that space into to grab it as it’s there instead of all of this pain and the struggle in this suffering, I’m like, oh yeah, there’s more pain, there’s more suffering.
Matt: There’s more struggling, but we have a bias to whatever we feeling. Right? Yeah. So we can, we can lay focus on anything in that in our world to literally the way we feel sorry for running from the hormones of stress, which pretty much everyone is most of the time, especially, you know, once you get into the city life and jobs career. And I’m not that, that, you know, there’s a, there’s a dependency on that. And then the moment we are trying to interrupt that we can create all sorts of bullshit that they actually are just stories in our head. Most of it constructed to perpetuate that dependency with the dependency.
Guy: And then all of a sudden it just feels a million miles away from the very things that we just spoke about. And the issue is as well that I found that which I realized that I was guilty of as well. It was, I was able to really start to dial into this work and allow life to start to flow through me and see opportunity. But then I’d come up against myself and
Speaker 5: um, the fairs in the [inaudible] don’t to be true and all of a sudden,
Guy: and the opportunity is laying that in front of me and I was able to quite easily sabotage it and not step through it because I had a, um, you know, a program that was running and that’s what I love about the version, the upgrade of version, you know, 2.0 to 3.0 in new programs to continually create new programs. And you know, neuro neuroplasticity and neuroscience is showing that you can literally unwire you know, the way signals are being sent around your body. If you stop using [inaudible] cut the dependency and then you just keep re keep rewriting the new one until that becomes hard coded and then you, then you have the upgrade. You know, that’s what I love about the retreat is like we got to rewire a hell of a lot in three days, which is amazing and I’m really excited. And next year, where are we going to be measuring that stuff?
Guy: Probably yeah, as well so people can see the differences and changes. It’s even just the reference point of that, like you go through an experience during the retreat or whatever and then have that new reference point within yourself. Oh, actually I am in command of this. I’m in command of that moment and myself and my state of being when they have any reference point to dial into in your life. Yeah. Yeah. So, so this, so I guess my, my key takeaway for that is, is that you have to action the moments that come in. So even though you start to slow down and allow life to, like you say, it almost starts to come in at these moments and you know, when they start to arise, as you tap into this work, you have to action it. You’ve got to meet it halfway. I think an owner, an owner, and only yourself and step into that. But then you stepping into the unknown because that’s, you know, so quite often we’re constantly pushing the very things that we want in our life away and we don’t even realize we’re doing it. Mm MM. Go very deep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Guy: yeah. I got one more bullet point in here and I can’t even remember what we were going to talk about it, but that was resistance. But I kind of thing we’ve kind of touched on what does
Speaker 5: you need more descriptive bull. I know, I know. I know one word Bagel. Like what are we talking about? I don’t know why. No, that’s my, that’s my grocery list. That’s not a bullet point.
Guy: Yeah. Well we kind of touched the list of the lean into that then. I think the system in your life constantly self-sabotaging. Not alarming ourselves. Yeah. That’s all we were just talking about. Yeah. Just when we come to the moment,
Speaker 5: come on, fix this. Done. Tell him. So yeah. Good. It’s good to done. Exactly.
Guy: Woo. Go. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it pulls it all the way back to this.
Speaker 5: Yes. The simplicity of the world. Come on guys. Come on. What are you resisting, Petra? Yeah, I’m in the flow.
Guy: Okay. Do you want the wine? So it comes back to being able to detach ourselves from the things that are coming up and for me, the, the work and the practice. If you, if you know as metaphysical and everything that you can get into and you can go so deep or this and we get caught up in so much of it all the time really comes back to just being the observer and being the witness and, and allowing yourself space too to practice that continuously. And I hate the word mindfulness because it sends me to sleep my hair, it glides here, you know? Yeah. So boring. But, but, but as we become mindful and start to witness these things, we can really detach ourselves from that resistance. And then we start to see that our thoughts and our feelings and a lot of these are automated patterns that are leading in. And then once we get in tune with ourselves and see the, you know, the things that might be coming into our lives, but then we’ve got our belief systems come in in a way we can really begin to observer and from becoming the Observer, we can start to interrupt those patterns in the moment because life is happening moment by moment and it’s only in the moment is when we can take action anyway. So I think it all kind of stems back to that.
Petra: It’s one of the first steps of change to become aware of your feelings and your beliefs and what is actually holding you back. And then you know what you need to change. Then you know what’s standing in your way. Yeah. Otherwise, if we keep on getting distracted by whatever social media TVs, I’m hanging out with people that are not really supporting her true cells or whatever we find to keep occupied or stuffing food down our throat, whatever, is just to not be aware of our feelings and beliefs. It just, it’s just prolonging the pain. Yeah. Hmm. And I think that it’s a beauty of our work is that we all three of us plan our techniques and our tools in a way to help people go through that process, but in a, in a safe and, um, support discipline away. So we have messed up moving and then he pulled that with that.
Speaker 5: Well, in your case, the Gong [inaudible]
Petra: yeah. Or over the head. Yeah, yeah. That, yeah. Yeah. Because it’s not easy. Yeah. And you touched on something else that kind of sparked my awareness
Matt: was the, um, the distractions. Well that’s the beauty of coming to, you know, have a trade. I think you’ve said before, it’s like you were in the same environment, the same situation, the same relationships, doing the same things and expecting our lives to change. And it’s like, it’s just, that’s pretty much insanity really. So to be able to pull yourself out of that. I mean like, look this, you know, I’m kind of on, on, uh, my own personal retreat being up here working with you guys and like pulling away from all the commonalities that I’m used to down there that get me in that stress place and it’s like,
Guy: I’m gonna put something to you over the last week. Oh my God, a tall transformation. All right. I just like, I’m going to be 11th, eight in two hours. Like it’s all just happening here.
Matt: Yeah. But it’s that space. I think that then creates that opportunity to, to start to make different choices too, you know, one process, all the stuff that we’ve been pushing down and behind all those distractions and then too
Guy: decide where we want to go from there. Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. All right, three action steps. We spoke about three action steps for people. So anyone that’s, you know, there’s obviously is going to be a podcast and people will be listening to this. And if somebody like in a podcast junkie listening to a lot of information but haven’t actioned anything yet into this work [inaudible] what would you, let’s, let’s have an action step. What springs to mind for you ma’am? Once, no, actually not my system. A lot of talk in Petra. Shut him up.
Petra: Yeah. This is what we said. Just um, make a decision to see what’s holding you back. Make a decision to become aware of your feelings and your beliefs.
Guy: Okay. So was that, become aware of the fee? How would you recommend somebody to do that?
Petra: Hmm. Um, it could be either through journaling or taking time to meditate, which is, I think it’s one of the most important steps. Really allowing time to retreat every day or even setting the alarm clock on your phone every 15 minutes and just catch yourself. What I’m thinking now, how am I feeling? What is my body posture and just stare.
Guy: Gotcha. Yeah, I see that. I’m the only one who’s been up front the whole time here. Yeah, that’s good. You’re on that side. Like get a whole space site. We’re on top of each other. This is kinky. Yeah. Yeah. Is that your action step step? So still actually set an alarm and, and check in with your boom.
Matt: Where are you in yourself? Yeah. What’s, what’s going on with posture? Yeah. So from that new posture, um, it’s the, I always go back to this. If there’s one thing that I think can, can bring people back into awareness or into a place of harmony or connection with themselves is to stash, to connect with the source of themselves. And that’s the breath, the breath and the heart. So if you can, you can either, you know, get, I mean literally just a hand here. Like this is what I do in the line at Kohl’s, right? When, when the lady in front of me is what, 45 cans of cat food and one at a time. Why? Why? How many cats does she have? Right? So, well, it happens every time. I need to change my beliefs cause every time I go to Kohl’s there’s a woman, what am I doing? Okay. So
Matt: it’s just here on the one hand on the belly and you breathe into the belly and just a deep breath into the belly. So just noticing where is your breath. Cause most of the time our breath is up here. Right? And so just doing that changes your physiology right there. So just a hand on the belly when you’re in line of Coles behind the cat lady and you breathe in there and that’ll slow you down and drop you in. It changes your, your biochemistry, which changes your thought patterns, which gives you an opportunity to see more clearly outside of the stress fight or flight response into a place of rest and digest. An opening. If you want to add a layer to it. Left-Hand cause you usually got two hands unless you’re holding all those burritos in the other hand. Yeah, the cat food. Then I’m left in here and you can actually drop in and when you get still enough you can feel your own heartbeat. And those are two rhythms of life that are thriving inside of you. You connect to what’s thriving inside of you and then that’s going to ripple out into a life that’s thriving. Yeah. Yeah.
Guy: Beautiful. And there’s a lot of studies showing as well around diaphragmatic breathing compared to the chest breathing when we normally breeze through the chest and the mouse, you know, with the vagus nerve and actually gone down. So, so majority of us are actually shallow breathers, which can create anxiety in our life. It’s amazing. So just doing what you said, making that up
Matt: in a second. You change the color, it just shit. And there’s a beautiful quote that says try to breathe deeply and have a bad thought. You cannot do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, get grateful for your breath. Deep breath. Good thoughts. Yup. Yeah. Deep breaths. Good thoughts. And then the tissue. Deep
Guy: breath. Good thoughts. Yeah. So we need one more step. So actually I would have, I would have spoken about breathing into the heart for sure. Cause that’s something I do daily and obviously being observed and awareness. But some of that sprang to mind. Then what I love to do a lot, um, cause I’m a bit of a daydreamer but I love contemplation and actually allowing the little moments of space in my day. If Cannes, if our days completely chaos, then we’re not allowing the essence to flow. So we’re just like those things as well. So even trying to create pockets of five minutes where I won’t have the radio, I won’t have, cause I’ve normally got coming in, whether they’re reaching for the phone, social media, it’s so easy and we got alerts set up on our computer, a phone and the next thing you know it’s cracking off everywhere.
Guy: But I find that for me, contemplation, like if I hear something or read something or listen to something like a podcast or whatever, I’m mulling around for days but then then also normally gives me something of an inspired action. And then I, but I act upon that inspired action from that, the wheels turning and then having the moment in the shower. So I guess one more thing is to continue to try and find pockets during your day. Even if it’s two minutes here, five minutes there, we just cut off the silence, cut off the sound, cut off people distractions. You need to go sit in the toilet work and just to survive, you know? And for me, a lot of amazing things have come from that over the years. So I think the three grades, things like that works. Yeah, it’s practical. I started doing that one and that one.
Guy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Gut as foster owning the, all right. So I asked a few questions on the show. Well, that’s in a, what’s up? Check to check with the zoo. It says, doesn’t say live on that phone. It says it’s so evil, evil, tradition. Life is evil. Okay. So Mr Oman, Mr. Lawrence, um, if you could have dinner with anyone and anytime, friends, I forgot this is a podcast, I would prepare my answer. Well, this is the idea. And you go, you’re gonna have to tune inmate a anywhere at any time frame. What do you think it would be? Why?
Guy: right? Roomy.
Guy: Was that Rumi? I don’t think it’s today or roomy quote on my arm. I go hang out with Rui y let’s see. Um, his poetry speaks to me. His wisdom just always like, no inspires me. We’ve got on my arm and says, close your eyes. Fall in love. Stay there. And I think those six words kind of sum up the secret to life. Close Your eyes falling up. Just fucking stay there. So simple. And it’s just this beautiful, all this, you know, opponents love poems and really tapped in, tuned in. Fella to hang out. Maybe do some hang out with whirling dervish just spin around, but I’m going with him. Romi [inaudible] you can’t just take mine. You gotta be original. You’re unique. [inaudible] I want a new answer. I want to be inspired. I want this like his, Huh? With Rumi. We’ll invite
Petra: them all in the next bite. Them all. Okay. Okay. We’ll have a feast. Okay. Who else has been good? Me,
Guy: I was just thinking about that. I think your guy, and nobody’s ever asked me this and I was like, oh no, I don’t have to come up with an answer. Um, do you know what it is that the person has sprung to mind at the moment? And Not really because I’ve been reading this book a lot recently, but more because I watched the, uh, a couple of his youtube videos and that ticked or bent off from stalking the wild pendulum. Well, and there’s this other do that book, this Polish Guy, uh, and Oh my God, like he was so wise. And the, funnily enough he started life as a, I think he started life as a plumber or a mechanic and he went and, um, became this great philosopher and scientist and it’s just amazing his work. So, uh, I mean, and he seems so kind and he had an amazing sense of humor. So I’d love to, I’d love to have a chat with him for sure. Yeah.
Petra: Yeah. For me, it’s like anyone who is open and willing to explore. I mean just having conversations like where do I, I feel so blessed that we, the three of us have each other and then we can go into this deep conversations at the same time. Make sure we’re not going to dodge the question. I don’t think you’re going to be good for that person. One. Come on one. What’d he say? Last time I said Einstein and somebody else. Listen, I used to hang out with Einstein a bit. Yeah. So lily and Einstein was names. He’s off [inaudible] [inaudible] Benny Benny. He’s a comic relief on that table. That’s going to be pretty intense. But he would know. I think he’d bring relief. I recognize he’s got a sense of humor. He went to some depth, a sense of humor. That’s all we need. Yeah. Willing to explore. Yeah. The questions. Amazing. I’m asking one last one. Nikki yams again.
Guy: Here we go. I’m ready this time. Okay. Um,
Petra: he does, he [inaudible] see you get it ready and then he’s screwed. No, I was going to ask you what you [inaudible]
Guy: favorite quote of all time? Favorite quote of all Willie Norman. Yeah, absolutely. Awesome. Just said it is right on my arm. Was it saying close your eyes? Fall in love. Stay there. Perfect.
Petra: Well, how’d you do it is to, Huh? What’s your favorite [inaudible]?
Guy: I think mine was the Wayne Dyer one that always keeps coming back. It’s a, if you change the way you look at things, things you could change.
Petra: I’d you know which one is for me. Yeah. The one that I have on my desk that you made, that you put together. Trust me. I know what I’m doing. University. Yeah. Trust, trust and trust.
Guy: Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. Okay. And he way I was in the podcast as well as, um, with everything we’ve covered today, would you like to leave anything for everyone upon the run? Holy Shit. How did we miss this one? Yeah. Just as you asked that question. Oh, I said a flashback. The first grade. No. Um, the, uh, kindness, like we’re, we’re on about this all year. Change patterns change and have done it all this stuff, but you know, not chasing the sign and all that kind of the core in all of that. It’s just light in the hell out and be a bit more kind to yourself. I think that, you know, all this stuff can get so heavy. That’s why I like to crack a joke or two is because, or seven. Yeah. It’s just we’re too serious in life. We can’t take life too seriously. We’re all gonna die eventually.
Petra: So yeah be kind to yourself and others,
Guy: I’ll roll with that.
Matt: Rolling with that.
Guy: Yeah. Beautiful guys. Well, what can I say? It’s been an honor having you on the podcast today and, uh,
Petra: we’re gonna make you pay back in this next four days.
Matt: Always. Yeah. I’ve got some footage. I got some footage of him in some weird..
Guy: A beautiful, beautiful, but I want to say, guys, it’s just, it’s just, um, it’s been an amazing week, having you guys around? Like, it’s just been so special and be able to come and do something like this and share it with everyone and we get to roll again tomorrow. So I’m.
Matt: Kicking it off tomorrow.
Guy: I’m genuinely, I’m genuinely blessed. Thank you.
Petra: So are we. Thank you.
Guy: Thank you. Thank you guys facebook Live.