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Sri:
If you look at the experiences that we have in our lives, hungry for security, hunger for pleasure, or hunger for control, the vast majority of lives on this planet are living only between these three experiences. But humanity’s experiences definitely is not limited to this. We have the sages who have lived thousands of years ahead of us who have meditated, explored consciousness, pushed their boundaries. You are this beautiful soul, capable of incredible love, like in your heart, experiencing states of oneness where you feel that you are the entire universe, or you feel the entire universe as you. These experiences have been possible for the stages who lived thousands of years ago, and it is possible for every individual living at this point.

Guy:
Guy here. Welcome to my letter in podcast. My beautiful guests today are welcome back to the podcast Sri Preta Jay, who is co-founder of the Oneness Movement. I’ll just, uh, get my words right here along with Sri Krishna Jay, and honestly, the, the impact on the world these, uh, guys are having is. Phenomenal. They really are on a mission to awaken millions of people. I mean, all you need to do is go and jump to their website and take a look at the eCom temple, the oneness temple that they, uh, conduct their work from in India. It is mind blowing. It’s so beautiful and. It’s just a joy to have, uh, Shri Jay on the podcast again, discussing the very things that are happening in the world right now and how that we have all the power we need within us and how we can conduct our own beautiful states within us.

Let me know what you think of the podcast as we go along, uh, through the conversation today. We dive into all these concepts, and I love to hear your thoughts on this, and I love having people on the podcast that really encourage us to empower ourselves, that we are our own divine being within us, and once we know how to activate these tools and these states within us, we really can. And make a difference within our own lives and with other people lives around us as well. Anyway, I’m starting to ramble now. Be sure to let me know who you are in the world watching this if you’re on YouTube, and of course we’ve got the heart guy that’s free. You can just print out and uh, print on your fridge.

That’s a great reminder as well to really start to explore the wonders of the heart. So all that’s below, and of course, hopefully I get to meet you somewhere, someday in person at one of our events or retreats. Much love from me. Enjoy this podcast with Jay and I’ll see you soon. Appreci your day. Welcome back to the podcast.

Sri:
So wonderful to be back with you, uh, guy Lauren. And, uh, I remember last time it was a joy speaking with you and speaking to your audience, and I’m sure we’ll have a great, uh, session today.

Guy:
Yeah, I, I, I don’t doubt it at all. I, I wanted to actually kick off the conversation and pick up something that I’ve been pondering on a bit from last time, and that was, you spoke about. 81,000 people it would take to create a tipping point in consciousness. And there’s two things that I wanted to ask you is how would you define consciousness and what would the world look like if or when we reach that 81,000 people, how would that affect mass consciousness?

Sri:
Absolutely. Um, what is consciousness was consciousness. There are two ways of looking at con. Consciousness itself is a very vast, uh, subject and uh, I can give you two perspectives of it in the time that we have. One is consciousness is everything that exists. The whole entire universe is consciousness. It is mind. It is matter. It is energy. Everything is consciousness. But another reference that we use, consciousness is. In terms of self, the sense of self that we experience. Consciousness is that sense of self that you experience, and how do you experience that sense of self? Are you feeling expanded at a given point in time or are you feeling constricted and limited?

And our focus is on not limiting your experience. To the eye alone, but to expand the sense of eye, to include others, to include other lives, to include the vast, your experience of consciousness is the more beautiful, more present, more joyful, uh, more peaceful and more calm you are. That is why, uh, Sheik Krish and I very specifically say that in a suffering state. Whatever the color of suffering can be. I mean, suffering is a spectrum of colors, right? Whatever that suffering might be. In its very nature, suffering gives you a very small, constricted experience of the, where the entire entire experience is revolving around that. I, I, I, and I. It is limited. It is constricted.

It is, um, it’s painful. It is, uh, it’s, it does not include others. Even if you’re talking about, uh, you know, fighting for justice in the world and you are in the space of anger. Because it is suffering state, the experience of the sense of self, experience of consciousness is very, very, very limited. And the problem in the world that we see today is seeing a lot of people living in anxiety, living in depression, living, feeling sad, living, feeling irritated. Constantly moving into that space of irritation, frustration, depression, anxiety, loneliness, and it is like constantly excluding everything else from your experience and, uh, that experience where you’re constantly separating yourself. He’s in itself very, very, very painful. The sense of self, of experience of consciousness becomes very limited in a suffering state, and our vision is to expand your sense of self.

Include, include your children, include your parents, include your friends, your relatives, the community whom you’re working with, the organization where you’re working to include and feel whole is what makes you feel whole and complete. And coming to the vision of 81,000 people, it is when you become free of suffering, you experience a vast sense of self. And from that sense of vastness and that sense of inclusivity, you perform actions you’re not idea of kindness is not, it’s not a value in your head, right? When you include somebody. Kindness is an outcome. It is not a value. Love is not a value that or an ideal that you need to adhere to. It is a, it’s a natural opening of your heart chakra that happens and you include so many people in your life, and love is a very beautiful outcome of that experience, of vastness, kindness, care, love, joy, togetherness.

Nurturing relationship. All these are byproducts or your sense of self feeling, ex expanded. And that is our vision. Our vision is to have 81,000 people live in an expand state of consciousness, live in an enlightened state of consciousness, free of suffering. And actually we have at least to to begin with, we want 8 million people. Living in a beautiful state of calm, joy, love, connection, living that life in the everyday experience, taking that love, that joy, that connection, that gratitude, that appreciation in the everyday experience of life, rather than kind of holding it on as a value, as an idea, as an ideal. Um, that is, you’re supposed to live that way.

You are supposed to be loving. You’re supposed to be kind, you’re supposed to be caring. And that is not what we are talking about. That inner experience of togetherness, that that experience of inclusivity is what allows love to flower is what allows care, joy, connection, kindness, to kind of flow through life. We are putting the cart before the wheel, right? When you’re saying you have to be loving, you have to be caring. Probably that’s a very fast food way of trying to deal with the world’s problems, but it has really not helped. You need a consciousness that can go beyond yourself to experience love, and we see that when 81,000 people live in the profound state of consciousness, the impact that will create on humanity’s consciousness itself.

Will be very huge. There would be, right now, if it is still til towards separation, alienation, conflict and division, there would be a shift in humanity’s consciousness towards great peace, long joy, connection, uh, togetherness. That is the shift that we are seeing that it will, that will happen when 81,000 people live in that enlightened state of consciousness,

Guy:
and that’ll be huge. It’d be amazing. Absolutely amazing. And that’s the world I wanna leave my children to look forward to. I mean, for

Sri:
our children, for our, for the future, for the, yeah. Like we need to create a change. Otherwise, you know, when we meet young children, young people across the world, they ask this question, why am I, what am I doing in my life? And they’re depressed, they’re separated, they’re alienating themselves from life around them. But that is not the true experience of living. True experience of living is when your consciousness has expanded, has become vast to include the other people in your life.

Guy:
Hmm. Yeah. I can so relate to that. So would it be fair to say then that it’s a state of being and it’s, it’s with almost marinating in that state of consciousness and as opposed to. We are reaching for an external, because I, I remember through my journey, you know, when I first built my first company, it was all about goals, orientations actually getting myself in certain states of rah rah, rah almost to go out and go after it. And, and then I’ll be rewarded for my, I dunno, my linear life per se. It’s almost like, I feel like it’s linear, but what I’ve been learning is that. When you cultivate states of, of a sense of being or peace within, then these things tend to emanate out and there’s less force or less push to actually start to live life from a very different vantage point. I dunno if I’m explaining myself well here, but does that make sense?

Sri:
Uh, in terms of goals and setting up the goals and then going towards the goals and, um. Is what everybody is doing, right?

Guy:
Mm-hmm.

Sri:
And, uh, what is not backing up these entire vision setting and the goal setting is one state. If you have the vast experience of life, the same goal setting probably would happen, but, uh, you’re driven by a greater purpose because you’re feeling so connected, wanting to create that impact. What you create, the difference in the world. That is the lack that has happened in terms of goal setting. That’s why you see people getting burnt out. They were, they run for a while and then say, no, this is not mine. And then the problem is not that it is not yours. The problem is your state is not conducive or helping you enough to kind of help you keep going towards that goal.

If it is especially driven by a place, from a place of suffering, from a place of lack, from an anger, or from a place of shame rounding to brew to somebody else, it is very short. That will not give you the drive, that will not give you the energy to go behind a particular goal or a particular vision. You need to have an incredible space and consciousness, a state of being that supports you, that kind of gets you connected, that allows you to be there, uh, day in and day after. Um, allowing you to pursue that goal? Seeing the difference, seeing the co impact, seeing the, uh, seeing the, yeah, seeing the impact that you’re seeing. Whatever it is, it could be impacting, uh, a little plant or it could be impacting a forest. It could be impacting an individual, or it could be impacting a huge community or a, or a huge organization, but it is only in that space.

Again, just not mentally seeing it. Actually in that space of connection to see, oh, this is, you have children, young children, uh, guys. So it is, it is like to feel them and to, you know, to feel so connected to them as you hold them to the impact of, uh, what your actions are, your responses are, how it is going to. Impact their lives. That is the vision. That is, that is how vision has to be said. Unfortunately. Uh, right now it is more about numbers, more about, uh, I don’t know what the parameters are at right at this point, but it has to be supported by your state, supported by your inner experience of where you feel lost, where you feel included, and that allows you to kind of pursue your goals. Pursue your vision day in and day out without feeling bought out.

Guy:
Yeah. Thank you. You said it so much clear, more clear than I I could ever have said it, that’s for sure. But no, that’s exactly what I was trying to say. The, um, you know, you, you’ve mentioned my, my young children and things and I, and I look at these beautiful little humans and they’re, they’re just. So innocent and so open, and so ready to, you know, invite an adventure in the world around them. And it’s just that for me, they, they’re almost my, my greatest teachers at the moment. They truly are.

Sri:
Absolutely. I, I understand, I know that.

Guy:
Yeah. It’s, it is gorgeous and, and I guess. When you speak of these beautiful states and this, this essence of being where, where we are in love, we are peace, like the, the we, it is just a part of our, our essence is everything else. The suffering then a conditioned state of being is that not, not a natural state. Because I know even in my life growing up in Wales and living its life, I always felt there was an underlying tone of suffering. That my life is always going to be hard and not actually knowing that all this was ACT is available to those that start to ask the question, who am I? And start to explore from that vantage point. And I would love you to speak to that a little bit, please.

Sri:
Yeah. The experience, if you look at the experiences of life that we are having, uh, right now to begin with, like the suffering that you’re talking about, the unknown. Voice within you that you’re talking about. It could be taken in from your experiences that you had earlier on in your life, or it could be experiences that is getting passed on from your ancestors, your parents, their experiences, grandparents. So generationally the impressions gets passed on genetically. Your cell memory in energetically it is getting passed on or it’s getting passed on from your previous, uh.

Experiences that you’ve had in your previous lives. So it is, it’s just not this life, it is just not this experience. To believe that your life has just lived up to however old you are is an illusion. It is just, uh, a follow up or it is just flowing from various forms, various re various, um, experiences that you had, you or your ancestors. It’s just a flu. Now coming to the inner voice. If you look at the experiences that we have in our lives, like it could be, we can categorize it as an experience that is revolving around security, wanting to, or seeking and hungry for security, or seeking and hung hungry hunger for pleasure or hunger for control.

The vast majority of lives in the on this planet are living only between these three experiences. Wanting greater security, wanting more pleasure, wanting more control, and tying you up. To different suffering states or feeling, lack, feeling insecure, feeling, uh, disappointed. Feeling hunger, feeling shame, feeling, you know, every, every seeking at the underlying of it is a suffering state that is constantly keeping you tied up to, because if you do not get the pleasure that you want, then you feel disappointed. If you’re not able to control, if you’re not able to have the control that you have, you become either an aggressive individual internally with. Anger or you’re feeling fearful, or if you’re not able to find the security or the stability that you’re seeking for, you’re getting tied up to feeling insecure and lonely and all that.

So the vast majority of the population that is living right life right now is caught up between these three experiences and um. But humanity’s experiences definitely is not limited to this. And luckily for us, we have the sages, uh, who have lived thousands of years ahead of us, who have meditated, who have kind of explored consciousness, who. Pushed into different, pushed the boundaries of experiences beyond these three, because if you’re living your life only between these three experiences, it is very mud. It is a chore. It is painful. It feels meaningless. It feels a lot of bored. But when the sage is. Have explored that, you know, we are just not this limited being to be living life this way, but you are this beautiful soul, capable of incredible love flooding your heart, or you are at this incredible soul, capable of experiencing great stillness, great silence, experiencing incredible bliss, or experiencing states of being a witness, experiencing states of oneness where you feel.

That you are the entire universe, or you feel the entire universe is you. These experiences have been possible for the stages who have lived thousands of years ago, and and it is possible for every individual living at this point. So the journeys that Sheik Krish and I lead seekers into is actually pushing the boundaries from this limited experience. So when people come up to us and ask, you know, I’m feeling bored, I’m feeling depressed, or I’m feeling, I’m asking this question, what is the meaning of my life? What is the purpose of my life? For who’s sake what? When you’re flooded with these questions, please know that you’re only experiencing this tiny little experience of what is possible.

You have the vast consciousness that you can explore. And even if you are able to fill your experience in that state of un and the, or bliss or love flooding your hearts, you know, it is, it is possible for everyone. And we lead seekers through into those experiences and when they move into those powerful experiences in consciousness and immerse and, uh, soak in those experiences. Then, you know, you’re not, you know that there is a different experience possible that you have not explored, and you know that you know it is possible to live that life. It is possible to be in those states rather than being stuck to suffering seeking security pleasure. Not that it is, I’m not saying that you, you should feel insecure or you don’t need to say, feel stable or security.

What I’m saying is that constant nagging hunger may not be there. How much of pleasure is enough? Like, you know, you have this much pleasure, there is a dopamine high, but then. You, you cannot experience that same high with the same amount of pleasure, right? If you wanna quantify it, you need more, more, more, more. But what you’re seeking and longing for is that great joy you’re seeking for is that great love to fill your hearts you’re seeking for is to be in the present moment as long as you are not experiencing life. As long as you are only torn between your past and your future, and you’re not able to be in the present moment, these questions around what is my life?

Why am I feeling bored? What is like, why am I, uh, living? Or what is the meaning of it? These questions would not go until you live an experience life, right? So it is only in that experience of life. These questions dissolve. Otherwise it is like a nagging part of your life. And as individuals, as human beings, we are incredibly, uh, blessed to be able to have the other experiences also, and meaning not limit our lives or experience of allies to just seeking pleasure, stability, or security and control and domination. No, that is, that should not. Be the reason for our life at all.

Guy:
Yeah, no, it that na and feel, it was something that was with me from as far back as I could remember and, and kept me from settling down for a long time asking that question. So when we have these beautiful states that you speak of and that the, you know, the sages and the mystic explored of stretching those boundaries. Would it be fair to say then once we have that experience, there’s a biological change that starts to happen in the body that we can start to cultivate these states in our daily lives, so they become more part of our, our makeup, our nature, as opposed to we just chasing an experience to have as to

Sri:
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It is my, like, it is more like soaking meaning, and I always use as an allergy, like when you go to, uh, like. In India, there is this very, uh, blur, uh, sacred river called the Ganges, right? And, uh, people go from all over the world. I mean, in ancient India. Like it was a part of their, uh, tradition to kind of go into, uh, I mean, it was, it is not easy to get there, but they still kind of went to this whole city and they took a dip. And the idea behind that is to kind of get rid of or free yourself from the car, make, uh. The negative Carmic influence in your, uh, in your life? I would say having to immerse in these specific states in consciousness, along with wisdom and constantly being able to nurture these states. Not a hi, I don I, me and are not here.

Like we, we are not looking at it, just giving you a high and then making you get back to your or ways of living. We want, our vision is to help these states begin to interact with life. There is. Right now we are suffering. States are called stead, interacting with life, but we want these powerful states of love, connection, and joy and appreciation to begin with. We call it as beautiful states, even before we talk about enlightened mental enlightened states. We want these beautiful states to interact with your life and. As you are immersing in those states with the wisdom, with the practices, with the deep processes, and as you’re constantly getting into those states, definitely your brain is changing. The memories that is there, getting stored in yourself are changing, and then slowly it becomes a way of life. I think there’s a lag. There is

Guy:
a slight lag. That’s okay.

Sri:
Yeah. So, uh, if right now if most of us are living in suffering states, we can see the amigdala or the pre fraudulent, sorry, amigdala or is kind of overactivated. And the hippocampus is constantly making memories of the experience again and again, intensifying the entire experience. But when you begin to practice, when you do reflections, when you do meditations, you’re activating the prefrontal cortex region of your brain that allows you to bring greater awareness, greater calm and experience of peace and experience of stillness and silence, and you know, light that is possible.

And then I, as the third eye chakra, the third eye region gets activated. You become. An unattached observer, you are able to allow the suffering if it arises to flow. You’re not getting attached to every experience that is flowing in your car. And all those experiences actually are changing the way. You are relating, changing the way you are experiencing, you’re responding, the decisions that you make, the actions that you perform. That is by, when we say 81,000 people, imagine the 81,000 people living in a state that’s free of suffering. And from that space, they’re acting and responding to life. It carries in itself a very beautiful energy, energy of love, energy of connection, energy of peace, energy, of stillness, rather than, you know, the other way.

The other end of it is like this anger and fear, and anxiety and worry and sadness. Letting being let those in the world as opposed to calm, joy, love, connection, being let loose in the world, and the impact of 81,000 people living in that state, free of suffering and feeling so connected and vast, and allowing those experiences. Be let loose that energy to be let loose. The impact would be very rising. Is it possible

Guy:
to,

Sri:
do you want to kind of restart? Kind? Because I don’t know if there’s, the lag is going to, I,

Guy:
this, I’m concerned if we hit stop because the, the end file will be fine because it’s recording from your end and uploading. Oh, then it’s fine. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Okay, so the question I wanted to ask you then from that was, is it possible to live our life completely free of suffering at all times?

Sri:
See, right now if you say, uh, people are living 95 or 90, I would say people are living in suffering and having a little pleasure here and. Um, I, I mean, I a little love here and there, a little joy here and there. 90% or 80% of the time. One is living in insecurity and sadness and loneliness and worry and anxiety, and fear in anger, in shame, in comparison, in conflict. And when you actually shift this whole thing, that is, if it becomes like, say you do moving something.

Something is happening in your life. The situations are not conducive to you. You move into suffering, you move into anger or fear, but you need to have the tools. You need to have the techniques. You need to have the wisdom, the reflection, and the meditations to help you walk out of suffering. Right now what is happening is seeing, and an, uh, an unfortunate experience is happening in your life. You, or a situation that you’re not fine with is some, or you’re lost in opportunity or, uh, something unforeseen has happened. Then you tend to move to some, but then you get used to being a, so the situation has passed, but you have trained yourself. You have built a, your connections in your brain. The chemicals that is flowing out in your body, in your brain, uh, your, your, all your organs are floating in stress hormones.

It has become a way of life, and slowly it becomes moving into the suffering state, the anxiety or fear or anger, it becomes your natural way of life. It becomes your habitual state. It becomes your tempera. Because nobody has told you that it is so important to you. Even if you want to create an external life, beautiful. Even if that is your focus and your inner world is not your focus, even if you want to create a beautiful external life, it is extremely important that you free yourself from suffering.

Guy:
Yeah.

Sri:
Because your inner world and the external life is so connected. And if you’re not going to free yourself from suffering. What is happening is you are creating similar situation, similar environment, similar people, similar, uh, experiences externally that keeps you or keeps that suffering stay the same. You want to be joyful. You want to be happy, so your focus is on the external. What you, what we’re trying to tell you is if your focus is on external, you want to create an extraordinary life. Have to work on yourself, creating that joy, you begin to have that vision. And when you go through these powerful processes and when you have the right wisdom, when you’re able to, through the light of awareness on your suffering as and managers arising, what happens is you don’t stick to it right now.

You are getting stuck to suffering. You’re getting attached to suffering. That is what you know. Your loneliness is what you know, your sadness is what you know, your anxiety and your worry is what you know, and you’re getting back to it again and again. You are so very attached to your suffering and that changes. And when that changes you, it is like a breather that has happened, right? You there is a distance, there is a breathing space that you have created. And now when suffering does arise. Uh, I would say most of our followers are across the group. Like when suffering does arise, they know what they need to do.

They know that they cannot allow it to be buried under the carpet. They cannot, uh, run away from it. They cannot fix, fix it with a new positive thought. They cannot try to hold on to a philosophical idea and say, suffering is a blessing. They know what they have to do. They know that they should not be allowing that suffering to continue to become part of their, in their experience. They bring attention to it. So it is like, and if you wanna call it, for lack of words, I’m using it, is the entire lifestyle. The wisdom, the meditations, the practices, the processes, the immersion into those powerful experiences in consciousness is that entire technology that we have developed. So that. Delivery of suffering to, to dissolve suffering as it arises, not to get caught in it, not to be enslaved by it becomes a very normal, very everyday experience of life.

Guy:
Yeah. It, it, um, I was trying to think of the words here to say, but it feels like there’s a trans, you’re transmuting it and being present with it and being true to what is. It’s almost like getting to the heart of it, isn’t it? Yeah, absolutely. On this question

Sri:
right now, it’s,

Guy:
please.

Sri:
Right now it’s just the constant running away. That mean if you look at the entire society, the way it is structured, um, and the way it is flowing, it is like constantly, how do you run away from yourself? How do you escape yourself? How do you not be present to that which is arising in you? How do you constantly divert, distract, run? That has been how the entire society is being structured, and that is how, and that’s why, you know, more and more loneliness, more and more depression, more and more meaninglessness that you see in the world. Mm-hmm.

Guy:
What are the benefits do you find, uh, you’ve been obviously teaching this a very long time, but actually bringing people together in and actually doing this work in a, in a group environment as opposed to going it. Alone because you, it’s, it’s often perceived that when we lean into this work, you know, people retreat to a cave or isolate themselves from whatever form of life it is. But on the other hand, I’ve found from my own personal experience, when I come together with other people and create a space together, so much more flourishes. I’d love to know what you’re thinking. No, actually, when

Sri:
I lead, uh, the field of awakening experience, the four day retreat that I lead, uh, people all know where they work. Um, in the ities of the world, and men may have a huge group in the hall and say, the particular field of awakening, I’m leading them through an experience. Of course leaves love. Um, it’s, it’s like, you know, one person’s experience rubs up for the other. To believe that we are separate individuals is ignorance.

Though we are separate in our body, though we are separate in by distance. But the truth is we are one in our consciousness and what we experience in that state of expansion actually impacts the other. So. It is like the entire hall moves into this explosive love flooding their hearts. It moves towards people whom they know, whom they’re brought, who’s sitting next to them, whom they’re familiar with. It is also no, it is also palpable. They’re able to transfer, they’re able to feel, uh, or experience that love towards some stranger in the hall, whom they’ve not even had an eye contact earlier. On whom they have never known in their lives. So it is like, you know, a, that’s why we call it a field of awakening.

It’s an entire field that has been created for them to be pushed into that state of causeless love. And that love is like palpable in everybody. People who understand, people who don’t understand, but it is an experience that they are soaking in and everybody moves into that particular state or that particular state that. That we are leading them into. So it is, it is such an incredible experience when you are doing it together and even if you are connected or living in different spaces, if you are spread across different regions of the world, the manifest that I do. A three hour online program, uh, that I do every month on a Sunday.

And people connect from all over the world. And they also, though they are separated by distance and everything, but they still feel the energy of so many people evolving and growing. Together. It is huge. The impact of the community, the impact of, uh, the, the num, the group in the whole, it’s incredibly huge how they are able to support each other in that journey. That is why the, um, the, the movement itself. Uh, uh, just not leading them into great experiences, just not teaching, just not, uh, you know, living them with practices and reflections. But it is about that entire community that is living with a vision of wanting to live in a beautiful state, wanting to be free of, be free of suffering.

Moving into, in moving towards enlightenment, that becomes the very experience of life and every individual in the community kind of generates that light. To others hold them because life is not easy, right? Like you do face challenges, you do face problems, and it’s so easy for you to get up in the old ways of thinking, old ways of living, moving into suffering again and again. But it is because of this entire ecosystem that you know, is there to support you on your job. People feel supported, held. People come forward, people hold you, meditate with you, journey with you, do a whole thing, do a setting in mind, do a heartfelt practice so they’re constantly there to support you on whatever you need.

And that, I feel is incredibly powerful in terms of, it’s just not a feel good experience that we want. I mean, I wanna talk about a feel good for. Experience or it’s not about a feel, uh, living in a place of joy for like a couple of minutes. No, we want this to become your everyday life. We want these states to interact When you’re bringing up your children, as you’re relating to people in your organization, as you are thinking about your community or the world, we want these states to flow in, and that is our vision.

Guy:
It’s amazing. I keep saying the word amazing. I’ve noticed, I’ve said it about four times through this interview already. I gotta catch myself. But with with those states of being then with, you know, you’ve been teaching this for many years, are you witnessing it more and more the way humanity is going? Are you hopeful for our future that more and more people are taking responsibility for themselves, their own states of being, and also then that’s rippling out into the collective?

Sri:
One, I would say we are in a fork. Uh, like on one side, you know, I, we feel a very huge, we feel that the world is in a, in a, in a fork where it can either move this way or that way. It’s a like, and it is important. And how do you create a very constructive, a very beautiful world for us? For our children, for our grandchildren is med scores of people are able to move into states free of suffer. If you are feeling separated and conflicted, that separation, that conflict slows out in your everyday experience of flex and that needs to change and that has to change from within. Comparing to what, what we saw in the world for the, say the last 20 years ago. What we are seeing the last few years is spirituality is not getting limited to very few people’s lives.

Earlier, it was only about a seek, or somebody who’s seeking a quest or has a quest around life or their true nature is those people who have sought or who have sought, uh, spirituality earlier. But right now we see spirituality becoming integrated into a experience of like people. People are tired. People want to change. People want to create a beautiful life. People want to create, uh, a beautiful experience of life for the family. And they, they see that, you know, slowly, there is a greater awareness that it has to happen from within. And, uh, they want to live a peaceful, calm, joyful life. And for us, spirituality, getting integrated into a normal experience of life is the key to creating a very beautiful world.

Guy:
Hmm, thank you. Thank you. I, that it

Sri:
is not about a few people living in the Himalayas, living in the, uh, um, living, uh, in the wind, India or the mountains, they who sought for it, and they alone living in the profound consciousness. That is definitely not sufficient.

Guy:
Yeah. No it’s not. Not at all. Not at all. I noticed as well, um, I was going through your website this morning in preparation and you spoke about, uh, uh, on the website, the 12 chakra system, and I was hoping you wouldn’t mind touching on that ’cause obviously it’s a common belief. Most people know of the seven, or I’m sure they are if they’re listening to this podcast anyway, but please,

Sri:
the manifest journey that I, uh, was speaking about earlier, the three are online mystic process that I lead for people around the world. Uh, happens every Sunday is actually focused on free or, uh, opening up that chakra potential. So, uh, to make it a little more, uh, to elaborate on it, our bodies, you are more than the physical body. You know that you are the energy body, the mind body, the carmic body, the wisdom body, and uh, the bliss body. There are different layers. It’s like sheets. So the manif, when we are talking, talking about the chronic body, chronic body itself is a vast world in itself.

Like 72,000, no currents flowing. And the chakras are that point where these no currents are coming together. And it looks like in the mystic plane, it looks like a wiam. That’s why it’s called a chakra. And there are many chakras. And, uh, in the manifest mystic journey, uh, the focus is on the mystic process is to open up that particular potential in you. So when these chara vibrate at the right frequency, uh, it is opening up. That particular blessing to flow into your life. Hmm. To make it very simple and understandable. And I know many people are familiar with the heart chakra chakra when this chakra is not in the, in the pa planning body when this chara is not vibrating, but why it is not vibrating?

Well, could be many reasons. Your experiences, the way you have breathed the, the what you have eaten, like in innumerable. Factors flow into you and say something has happened by which this chakra is not vibrating Well, when this hard chakra is not vibrating well, the experience of love is very limited in your life. So when the experience of love is very limited in your life, you are probably wanting to experience love in your life, but you’re incapable of it. And how this interacts into your life is you’re also going to bring a person into your life who’s not going to make you experience that love. There’s, I want everyone to have a vast picture of what life is you, your body, your thoughts, your emotions, your chakras, your experience interacting with life and the life throwing up those experiences back.

So, so you are somebody who’s one, constantly seeking love in your life, and you are so limited because of this chakra, not vibrating will and and similar experiences of separation or rejection constantly flowing in your life. So the manifest journey is about opening up that chakra potential. Allowing those chara, that chakra to vibrate in its frequency, freeing that chakra or that space in your consciousness from all the suffering that has got accumulated, and then opening up your life to receiving the blessing of love. So each chakra is about creating a particular blessing to flow into your life, and that is what this manifest journey is about. It is about the chakras being, uh, cleansed, freeing this chakras of the suffering states creating a field because each chakra, it’s an interaction, right? You, your heart field is around you.

So the field is constantly interacting. So this chakras are creating a field and allowing these chakra to vibrate the rights. Frequency opens up your life to receiving that blessing. So it is, it is manifest as it stands for manifesting a blessing into your life.

Guy:
Mm-hmm. It’s very different to, um, the materialistic manifest in that sometimes we hear of Right. That it’s actually working internally, opening up, clearing, and then really allowing this, the universe to prevent. Things are in alignment with us. That’s what it feels like.

Sri:
Absolutely. It is. I mean, right now it’s of course a popular thing is manifesting by visual icing. But if the state is not conducive for it, if your chronic energy body is not conducive for it, if your mind body is not conducive for it, it, these are like your, your, your stone walls. The universe wants to bless you, but you know, you have created this stonewall of, you know, not wanting to receive that particular blessing because of the state that you are in. So these manifest journeys focuses on 12 different chara, each one for a particular potential, each one to receive a particular blessing and opening up and allowing this RAs to vibrate at the right frequency, freeing of this offering.

And. Receiving the blessing is the focus of this manifest journey. And anywhere we go, whatever we do, we, we know that, you know, unless, until you become free of suffering, you’re not going to receive any blessings as long as you’re living in separation and this connection and alienation, it is going to be the pretty similar world that you’re going experience. So that is why whatever we do, we bring attention on one state and one’s life. And anybody who wants to start the spiritual evolution and a spiritual journey manifest is such a beautiful place because it is good for, it is great for beginners, it’s great for, you know, pros and spirituality, work. Done a lot of practice. It’s pure, very, very good.

Guy:
Yeah. It’s, it, it sounds it, and it truly is. Change your inner world to change your our world, which I think is the. The take home message for that, which is how we are definitely not taught or conditioned to in any shape or form. Yeah. So a couple of other questions I wanted to ask you before we wrap up the podcast as well is, um, with consciousness, and it’s a deeper question, but it’s something I I, I ponder on as well, is that. This can our consciousness live on when we, when we pass, when we die? What, what are your thoughts around these concepts?

Sri:
They’re asking a very, uh, intense twist. Now,

Guy:
I know

Sri:
consciousness does not die. All that exist is existing. All that happens is changing forms from one build to another build. That’s why when I say you’re, you’re a continuation.

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah.

Sri:
And uh, and the very purpose of this continuation would be to free yourself from suffering. You don’t want to continue with the same anger with which you lived in your earlier lives or seem fear or same. Sadness or same guilt. We have seen people when they, they go through these deep processes, how, you know, this experience is so connected to their past experiences and either in recent past or earlier past or past. In terms of family. That is why we feel like we don’t want suffering to continue. We don’t want suffering to continue from generation to generation. It, it has to be freedom from suffering. It has to be liberation and freedom that you need to experience and that we see is a very purpose of one’s life and living.

Guy:
Yeah. No, beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Do you with, we’ve covered a lot of ground today. I can’t believe we’ve been dealing for 50 minutes already. I just, um. A couple of questions of you. A, are we gonna expect to see you back in Australia at at any stage?

Sri:
Definitely it’s on cards and uh, I think in 2025. I was there in March. I’m not going be in 2026. That’s not in the calendar, but I think in 2027 I will be back again.

Guy:
Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. And is there anything you would like to leave the listeners to ponder on from everything that we covered today? If somebody might be in a suffering state right now, you know, while, while listening to this, see, uh,

Sri:
to start, I mean, when we don’t, uh, we want this to be a starter for your spiritual evolution and the way you start, even if you have to take one thing out of this conversation, not to have a spiritual vision, a vision for your inner state. You focused on the external. You believe by baking the external right, you’ll become happy, but that is not the right combination. You need to kind of work on your inner state, live in a beautiful state, and thereby create a very beautiful life externally, which is very peaceful, calm, because there you are letting closer to the universe, your state, and that is why you start off with a spiritual vision, a vision for your inner experience.

You don’t want to live in STA sadness and continue to create wealth. We don’t want you to live in feeling disconnected and raise a family. That’s not how it has to be done. So work on your inner experience, hold a vision and you will find all the tools. It’s there. You can do this whole sync meditation, you can do this ment practice. You can join the manifest. So whatever, wherever you wanna start, it is important that you start. To nurture a beautiful state in your consciousness and nurture it again and again and again, and it would change, the ecosystem would change, the chemistry would change, the neural connections would change. And you would, you would see it as becoming easier for you to learn in the state of calm peace again and again.

Guy:
Yeah. Beautiful. And I’ll make sure the links are in the show notes for people if they wanna find out more. But uh, can you say, where’s the best place to send them? What’s the website?

Sri:
Yeah, the one is, the one is movement.org.

Guy:
The one is movement org. That would be the

Sri:
best place where you could find all the information.

Guy:
Beautiful, uh, Fri Jay, I just wanna say thank you so much. Uh, I know how busy you are and it’s wonderful to spend some time with you and, and record a podcast like this, and I have no doubt. It’s

Sri:
always a joy, uh, speaking with you. Uh, Kyle, it’s always, the questions are very different and very much from the heart, so it’s easier for me to kind of, you know, put across, uh, where you want, what do you want for your audience and what we can offer.

Guy:
I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Sri:
Namaste..