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Robbie:
When you recognize the power that’s within you, everything is possible and, and now globally, more and more people are opening up. What’s happening globally, all the geopolitics, all the crazy stuff that people are losing their minds over. It’s a reflection of our collective consciousness and each person that opens their heart, each person that opens their merkaba, each person that clears their shaktas and raises their Kundalini and comes into mastering their own body and minds and soul is contributing to the raising of that collective consciousness, to the lifting up into that love state because we are love. We are all love. it’s all just an illusion.

Guy:
Guy here. Welcome to my podcast. My epic guest today is Robbie Mackenzie, and you’ll probably wonder where the hell I am. Well, if you follow my podcast on a regular basis, you know, I would’ve been in Wales last week where I recorded the intro from my, the house I grew up in with Hans Wilhelm So this week I’ve obviously flown to Bali, caught up my family, and now we’re running the Living Flow Retreat.

So I’m actually in the Charlotte. Behind us as we get ready. We’ve got about 40 participants. It’s sold out. It’s amazing. We’re so excited, uh, to be here. And, uh, so I’m recording this on the fly, so excuse me. Um, but Robbie is an awesome guy. Like I really enjoy this podcast. It goes very deep down the rabbit hole.

We talk about the Merkaba The light body. We get into this very esoteric conversation, but from having personal experiences with this and really, um, sourcing people, uh, that come into my sphere that are happy to talk about it from their experiences as well, and him being a fellow Celtic fellow, uh, he’s Scottish, I’m Welsh.

Uh, we really connected, we a lot of fun and I just love this energy and he is a beautiful human being. This. Um, if you listen to this podcast today, then you’re clearly on the path. And for me, it’s all about how we can continue to raise our vibration and continue to upgrade our bodies. And that’s what I’m finding happening with myself personally as I continue to lean into this work and hold space for others as well.

The things that we talk about with Robbie today with people are actually having these experiences in our retreats. Uh, it’s phenomenal and beautiful to see that people are ready to step into this and really start to let go of their past traumas and, and really, um, lean into what it means to heal holistically, all aspects itself.

It’s a process. It takes time. There’s no quick fixes, but, um, but like I said, if you’re listening to this podcast and you, I have no doubt you’re on the past too. If you’re watching this on YouTube, be sure to let me know. Where in the world you, you’re tuning in from where you get outta the podcast. The more you engage, the more you you comment, and of course, subscribe to podcast.

The more these conversations can continue to get out there and reach people, I dunno about you, but I certainly want a better world for my children and for the legacy that I’m. Want to leave from as I move forward in life and, and certainly the, the growth and contribution that comes from doing this work and contributing to helping others as well.

There’s nothing comes close to it, so just those little things always help to continue to get this work out there. So please share the love, if you can look at that. Cool. Huh? Beautiful. It’s a stunning resort. The food’s amazing. Everything is cool. If you’re interested in joining us in the future, uh, there’s links below, uh, with our work.

Uh, we will be in New Zealand. We’re gonna be, uh, running a retreat in Australia, um, that’s nearly sold out in June. And then we’re gonna be in Croatia in, uh, early November as well. Anyway, much love from me. Enjoy this podcast. It’s a ripper. And, uh, yeah. See you soon.

Guy:
Robbie, welcome to the podcast.

Robbie:
Thank you. Thank you for having me on, and nice to be

Guy:
Uh, it’s a absolute pleasure. I love how, uh, I stumble across people and different things and just some, when things resonate, they resonate and it’s like, oh, I gotta, I.

Robbie:
Exactly. Exactly. And that’s, that’s, that’s exactly how to do it. I think it expands everything. You know, when you, when you, when you, when you trust in the divine, it’ll lead you to where it is you’re meant to be.

Guy:
Totally.

Robbie:
I know you were, uh, saying about my book, the Clarion Call, when I, when I, the cladding call. The clarion call is a channeling. Right. a, it is. I I had to fast. I fasted, I ended up fasting 79 days to,

Guy:
Wow.

Robbie:
do it, but I, uh, they wouldn’t gimme one word of it until I was on day 20. So it’s like 85 pages of a channel and it shows you how to open your macab. Right. And when. When I, after I channel it, when I, um, published it, I was like, what should I do?

You know, should I record it? Should I, uh, market it? Should I get a marketing company on it? What should I do? And I prayed and I was like, what should I do about this? And within 10 minutes of that prayer, I. I was in a meetup group, right? So it had been published for like two weeks. I was in this meetup group on a, and there was this guy who started a New York City group, he, he meditate to the group, right? Um, and it was about the Clarine call. I was like, the front of the book was on the thing and everything that, so I had sent him a message and I’m saying, uh, well, hey, this is amazing. I just prayed about this, you know, how are you doing? I’m the guy that channeled the book, and he said, I’ve not published this to the web yet. He said, you shouldn’t even be able to see this. You know, I was like, what? You know? And then that group, now there’s like 1200 members and you know, they

Guy:
Wow.

Robbie:
to, to the book and stuff, you know, so it is like, you know, if you just trust, you know, you’re led to the right people, you know, and then,

Guy:
Well, I, I, I know for a fact that you, you definitely came into my sphere when needed because I, I mean, for the listeners, just to give a bit of background, and we’re gonna get into all this. So if we dunno what the clarion call is, the, the, the MEbA or MEbA or whoever you pronounce it, you know, I was researching that, stumbled across you and I thought, I gotta get this guy on. I just love, love him. And, um, so let, let’s start unpacking all this just for listeners. I always ask for the same question. If you were at an intimate dinner party and a complete stranger asked you what you were doing for a living, how would you respond? Well.

Robbie:
Um, well, I would say I, I, I see myself as an ascension artist, so because I had my, I had my own ascension, um, in sofar as. Like understanding when I first opened my kaba, right? So I see ascension. I di different people talk about ascension in different ways. Some people think it’s about the, the, the, you know, the, the galactic, um, beings and us becoming, you know, understanding aliens.

Or some people think it’s, you know, about the, about, um. The, the consciousness. It is about the consciousness, but to me it’s about the heart and it’s about you. When you are, when you open your heart fully, it is like Jesus said, the kingdom of God is within you. And it is like, well, you, when you discover that and you have an experience where you experience the oneness, that’s your, that’s your ascension to me.

And then it’s like you realize you’re just part of something that everybody’s part of, and it’s all part of the oneness. so, so my, my answer would be I’m an ascension artist because it’s like, I’m a, I am an actual artist. I, um, I, I, um, I painted, I used to have a mural business, you know, uh, um. I’m a writer. I write books. I’m an actor. I trained as Act an actor. Actually, you know, I trained for four years. I came off of my class actually. Um, and, uh, I got the Ramson Theater

Guy:
Wow.

Robbie:
um, for the, for the four years. Um, uh, and, but then my, um, I had an experience where, um, I first went into Circle and first started meditating and opening my cabin and knowing what that was about. And, uh, when I opened maba, I sparked to open fully. I experienced the oneness being the oneness as, uh, you know, and everything’s the oneness. And then, um, a few weeks later, my mom passed away, and then six weeks later my

Guy:
Holy honey.

Robbie:
So in this. Whole, beautiful, kinda blissful, oh, I am one with the universe. Then I had these, these personal tragedies, you know? Um, and since then, that’s how, that’s how I’ve, that’s how I’ve kinda seen myself. I’m an ascension artist and whatever it is that I do, it’s about bringing people to that understanding that they are divine, you know,

Guy:
Wow. Okay. Beautiful.

Robbie:
that was a bit of a long story for a short

Guy:
That’s, that’s okay. No, that’s what happens at the dinner table, isn’t it? You get into these conversations. So let’s have, can I unpack that bit then? Like you, you spoke circles, so I’m assuming you were talking about a meditation circle with other people as well,

Robbie:
circle. Yeah, a church circle. Actually one local church circle in

Guy:
how old were you at this point and what was, what was drawing you to go into a meditation circle? Were you already doing them? Uh, or was this something brand new, or,

Robbie:
well, my, my, my, uh, my background is my granddad was a minister. My mom’s

Guy:
huh?

Robbie:
a minister, so that was kinda this, this Christianity side of things. Uh, but my dad was a spiritualist. they, they, and he kinda kept that hush hush mostly. We didn’t really go too much, you know, it’s like every now and again we’d go to me time. Um, but there was, there was a, a bit of a contrast, a bit of a clash between the two sort of ideologies if you like, you know, so, and my mom went out. Because she, because she was the, you know, she was the matriarch, you know, so we, we, um, went to church, a normal sort of Christian Church. Um, but I, so I already had it in my, I knew what, you know, I still, when I was a kid, I went along to these meetings and, and, you know, saw some spiritual things and with the spiritualism. only have seven principles.

They, they, they don’t have a book or a, or a, know, dog mar doctrine or anything like that. Basically all that they’re doing is trying to prove the existence of spirit, you know, which I kinda like, you know, I like that there’s no, you know, it’s not, you must believe in this and here’s the book and you need to learn this, or is So, um, at that time, because my mom wasn’t well, she had, uh, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Um, and then we thought that was gonna be okay ’cause it’s quite treatable. But then she, we found out she had lung cancer, so that whole year I was taking her to radiotherapy and chemotherapy and all of that stuff. Um, and, and during that time I was, um, I was back in circle. I was, I was, I was in a, I started in circle right there, and they were saying, oh, well you’re gonna be doing this because you’re a transmedium. And I, I didn’t even really know what that

Guy:
Right.

Robbie:
To be honest, you know, and, and in this circle, I would feel, uh, um, presence, uh, around me. And then the circle leader would stand me up in my feet, right? And then I would have, I would, I would hear a, a phrase repeated over and she’s just, let, let the gentleman come through.

And I would say something and then I would keep talking. Right. And it, and it wasn’t my words. I was like, you know, and the end of it that would sat down in the presence, we’d go and then, uh, that would be, you know, the end of the circle, you know, and then suddenly they had me up in front of the, the, uh, congregation doing this, you know. Um, so that happened very quickly. Um, and, and, um. Just prior to me going into Circle, I had, um, opened with Marba. So I’d been, I’d been, that whole year is a year. Uh, there’s something else happened beforehand. So I was working as a drama lecturer and I was married, and, um, that marriage broke down. So I, that’s when I moved in with my

Guy:
Right.

Robbie:
you know, so like I had my own house and I had my. Uh, my job and my career and and whatnot. Um, but I could, uh, uh, once the marriage broke down and I moved in with mom and dad, that it was that moment that she found out she had cancer. So I was like, uh, uh, I was going to go to London. I was actually gonna start my acting career properly, you know, because I’d been trained. then they had employed me as a, a, um, lecturer. Um, and I was getting little bits, I was getting some wee bits on TV and some things like that. And they were all saying, wow, you’re gonna win an Oscar, know? Um, and I was like, well, you know, it’s something that I could do and I like doing, and I was just getting ready to do that.

But then. That year when I, I split up with my ex-wife, um, gave up my, uh, uh, uh, they never continued my contract. Um, so I didn’t have a job. And then my mom getting not well and when she passed away and, um, you know, six weeks later my dad dying. It was kinda, I, I couldn’t be bothered by acting anymore, you know?

I was like, I can’t be bothered with this stage. I’m not interested in that anymore. And then just, everything kinda fell into place because. On one hand, I was so blissful I’d opened my marba. I knew that the, we were all one, I’d had this experience, but the human side of me was grieving for my mom and grieving for my dad.

You know? And it’s like, that’s quite a lot to process, you know? So that led me on a journey towards connecting more with the angelic energies, connecting more with, uh, people, understanding. And developing my own abilities or, uh, you know, what they call city powers, you know, the natural powers that open up within you, your telepathy, your, you know, the way that you, you, um, can heal.

And, and I think we’re all healers. I think, I think the whole human race are healers. They just don’t open up their energy. Enough, or, you know, it’s like they don’t, they don’t see their own potential. So that’s another thing that I do. I do coaching for that. I do, um, thing that Metatron’s got me doing energy flow openings where I go into, uh, a meditative state and they, I open well, Metatron helps them open their chakras. And open their energy, you know, so that it’s like they, it clears like, you know, traumas or any blocks to your, to your energy system or, you know, like they’ve got me doing loads of things,

Guy:
You are a busy boy.

Robbie:
but, Yeah. So,

Guy:
Yeah, no, I’ll jump in there if that’s okay. I wanna unpack a few things ’cause I can feel, I can feel the listeners say, what the hell is the, you know, you keep saying this word and all the rest of it. And so where, when you went into the, the Healing Circle and you opened your Meka bar, um. There’s a couple of questions I have for you so you can then run with it. One is, did you know, did you know what the Meke bar was at the time? And two, how did you open it? So can you describe what it was and, and did you know about it? You know what I mean?

Robbie:
So the Merkaba is, um, sec, like sacred geometry. Right. I’d seen a few things. I’d read a few things. I was quite intrigued about it. I was going, I was going deeper and deeper into meditation, and then I found a few different meditations that were specifically about the Merkaba. um, and I started doing them right. I started doing them. There’s certain breaths that you take, there’s certain visualizations that you do, like the, the Merkaba is, you’ll have seen it. It’s like a three dimensional star of David, right?

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
So it, so it is, it is two spinning, um, tetrahedrons spinning around each other in opposite directions. Right? And, and this is the thing that controls your al field, right? So it’s, it is a mechanism that anybody can open. We’ve all got one. Like we can’t be here without it. It is the, it is the mechanism that brings spirit to matter and matter to spirit. Right. So it’s the thing that controls your AL field. So we’ve all got one and it’s all it is, it is, it is, is working, uh, with, uh, with most people, uh, like in the background, almost like it’s, you know, it’s, it is there, it is the, but.

When you meditate on it, you, you activate the dormant part of it, that, that relates to your experience, to your consciousness, to you, you know, to you understanding the mechanisms of the divine and how, how that, um, how, how, how that pertains to you. To your experience, so how you with yba when you, when you, when you follow the, the protocols and there’s a few different people that teach it. Um, my book is a, is an 85 page channeling that shows you how to open it and the, the words can help subtly change your consciousness as you’re reading it. You know, it’s a channeling. It’s not, I never wrote a channel that, a deep trans channel that, and I recorded it and I transcribed it, like word for word the way

Guy:
Wow.

Robbie:
out. You know, in a fasting state, they wouldn’t gimme one word of it until I was in day 20 of fasting. And fasting is a, they’re like, well, you know, EE, everybody should fast for their health. But for spirituality, it’s the thing that that gives you control over your vessel. Again, people, some people are like fasting, why would they fast?

Why would they bother fa fasting? We, we are controlled by our urges or by other people or by, you know, whatever it is that are habits that don’t help us. And when you fast, even if you just do a days fast, you know, um, you, you take control back of your own,

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
You’re basically saying, you know, I’m in control of this vessel. You’re not in control of me. You know, I’m not gonna let my ies or, you know, things that are unhealthy for me control me anymore. I’m taking control. Anyway, that’s the part about fasting. Um, but the, the, the, the Merkaba, when you discover it, when you realize it’s a real thing, it gives you access to your power. It gives you access to the deeper part of your heart, your love, the, the way that you can control yourself, your self mastery, you know the light that’s within you. It helps you open your light body and understand kinda what that means. You know, there’s loads of things that you can do with it, but primarily it’s there for you to understand the, the love essence that you are and the oneness that you are, that brings you back into the, the original template of who, who you are and what you’re

Guy:
Okay,

Robbie:
You know, because we’re all spirit. You know, when you fully open it, the most intense experience of it is feeling the oneness.

Guy:
so.

Robbie:
So you, so you, it

Guy:
Uh, no, I’ll jump in there if that’s all right. So I wanna ask you then. No, it’s brilliant. So, just to recap what you’re saying, the ME bar is sacred geometry that informs the al feed, the TAUs of energy that we all have, that flows up through the spine that comes outta the head. People see it looks like a, I always, it looks like a neat apple or something, doesn’t it? You know, where they’ve, you’ve gone through, It’s like a big donut. Yeah.

Robbie:
donut. Some people, yeah. And Apple will, some people say the apple is where the Apple story comes from in Genesis. You know, it’s like eating the apple is understanding the

Guy:
There you go. So, so then the, the meka bar is informing the choroidal field, and obviously the chakras are toal fields that,

Robbie:
it’s informing it, but it’s the mechanism through which all creation happens. It’s that. So if you look at that shape, that shape is, uh, and it’s not, it’s is attributed to, um, Judaism, right? That’s where we see it as the star David. But it’s an ancient Mesopotamia. It’s in, it’s in, uh, it is in Egypt, it’s in, it’s in India, it’s in, there’s all of these different ancient traditions that have this shape, you know, and that shape it once you, when you meditate upon it, when you understand what you’re meditating about and what that means. the thing that actually creates the tural field. Right.

So it’s like from that, from that sacred geometry, it goes from spirit into matter, from matter into spirit, and that creates the Taurus, that creates the toal field. That’s the energy that when you recognize how to tap into it, you, you, you’re not, you’re empowered in many different ways. You know, and the most, the greatest empowerment for me is like, it, it kinda, it humbles you because you realize you’re just, you’re just an expression of the divine. I’m just, I’m just an expression of the divine pretending to be Robbie for a while. You know, you’re just an expression of the divine, pretending to be guy for a while, having an experience as that character. But we’re actually all one. You know, and it, that’s what it does for you. It opens you

Guy:
Wow. It was Eno.

Robbie:
but it all empowers in many, many different ways, you know, and when you, when that is something that is, that you’re consciously breathing it, when you realize what it is, when the, the love is opening up within you, you know, you just, so many different things it happen in your life. That are, are, are wonderful and supernatural. You know, the supernatural is really just the natural that we, that we’ve not understood how to, how to activate yet. That’s all the supernatural is because everything’s supernatural. You know, it’s like the, the physical world can be, um, you know, can be, it can be equated scientifically, but science is always finding more and more things that bring us back to the oneness. Like Bruce Lipton’s work, you know, like, uh, what’s his name? Uh, um, super, uh, super human, uh, super.

Guy:
Joe Dispenza.

Robbie:
not

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
his work. You know, it’s like all of these, all of these scientists. And a lot of them are now saying, it’s like, well, everything is actually, you know, about the oneness, about the, what they used to have in science, the ether. And they disregarded it. They stopped studying it, you know, and Tesla said, when we start studying non-physical phenomenon, we’ll make more advances in 10 years than we have in hundreds. I’m paraphrasing, but yeah. You know, that’s the truth. You know, it is like we are, we are now, we’re, we’re starting to see that now.

We’re starting to experience that now, and so many people are opening up and when I see something, like if I help somebody open the Merkaba, like if I’m coaching, I, I’m helping somebody open the Merkaba and they, they open their Merkaba, just something transforms within them. You know, and it’s not, and it’s not me doing that, it’s them doing that because we can

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
you know? And sometimes it’s good to get coaching or help or whatever, but everybody’s capable of this. Do you know what I mean? So it’s, and that’s what’s becoming more and more, uh, obvious. It’s almost like we don’t have to be listening to the, um, naysayers or the doomsayers or the, you know, all of the things that we get fed by mainstream media or whatever it is, you know, that that is doom and gloom.

We have power within ourselves and we are actually taking back this planet. That’s another part of what Ascension is. I think, you know, it’s almost like realizing the control systems that are around us that are actually not really for our own benefit, you know, and like empowering people into their power, into their, their discernment into the realization, you know?

Guy:
So another question. Thank you. Thank I just love your energy mate. You just go. It is brilliant. Um. When you, when you went into that, I wanna go back to the meditation circle for a sec. Right. So you didn’t know what the Murup Murup bar was at the time and, and,

Robbie:
I knew what it was. I’d

Guy:
uh, okay. And then what was the experience like when that opened for you for the first time? Like, did it freak you out? Was it unbelievable? Like, what, what happened? Talk us through it.

Robbie:
is. So, uh, uh, the, the, there is a certain breath right there. There are, there are certain points within the meditation that you just go, I just went, I just went for it. I went gungho into, I did exactly what I was asked of me in the, um, in the meditation that was there. I, I, and the, the, it was when I opened it, it was the final breath was, uh, um, it’s almost like, uh, you know, when you, when when you drive a, a manual car. And you and you, and you’ve got your clutch. And the clutch engages, and you, you can’t, it is hard to kinda describe that, uh, with, unless you’re experiencing it, right. But you know, when you, when the, when the gear kicks in and you take off, right? There is a certain breath in the meditation that, that when you get to the, the call somebody, right?

Is you get into the place where you don’t experience yourself anymore. You, you disappear. Right. The, so the experience of it is not is, is you, you ascend your consciousness. So in that moment, you can, you can feel, first of all, you feel everybody around you. Then you feel the whole world. And it’s almost like all of these simultaneous energies around you.

And then you feel the whole universe and then you just disappear. Right? But it happens like that, right? It’s almost like, um, it’s. A little like tripping or, or doing mushrooms or LSD or something, you know, one of these psychedelics, you know, and I didn’t do a lot of that when I was a kid, but I did it a couple of times and, and it was a bit trippy.

And you felt a little bit like, oh, wow, man, you know, look at the wallpaper, you know it, that was cool. It was what, but you know, I’m not telling anybody, anybody able to do drugs, but. But there, okay, there’s different ways to experience many different ways people are doing ayahuasca or doing all these different things.

Well, this is something that does that without those drugs. does that without having to take anything extra because you have, um, di methyl tryptamine in your body. You have DMT within you already, and I think that’s part of what happens when you open it up. You get the, the full dose of what it is that you need to help you go through the portal of understanding your oneness. I mean? That’s, that’s to me, that’s what it, that’s what it, that’s what I experienced or that’s what I experienced when I open it up. You know, and it’s like, it’s not just a one time experience, you know, but when, but when you, when you know that it’s a real thing, you start playing with it more, you start activating it more because it’s a, it’s a tool of ascension.

It’s a tool of, um, uh, the, because the masters talk about it when you, you’re reading about paramahansa yoga and, um, I don’t think he’s talked about the Merkaba per se, but there’s a sri mantra. In India, right? So the Sri Yara, not mantra, the Sri Yara, you probably have seen it. It’s a square thing and it’s got all of these triangles inside of it, right? Uh, well have a, we look at the Sri

Guy:
Okay.

Robbie:
right? There’s actually a, a, a lake bed in America that, that, um, the, there was, uh, flames, uh, planes flying over it. Uh, this lake bed, this dry lake bed, and there’s a, a, a version of the Sri Yara that is like miles long. That you, they have no idea how it was made. How about we look at that as well? Your readers or your, your listeners. How about we look at that? The ri Yara in American, uh, um, dry lake bed. How about we look at that? ’cause that’s like, how did that happen? You know?

Guy:
So once you

Robbie:
Did answer your

Guy:
No, it does. It does. And so once you have this experience, there’s a couple of things that are like in the back of my mind about, you know, one is if. Do people have these experiences? Only when this, they’re ready. Like when their soul is ready. Like if people are listening to this, if they go chasing it, as opposed to letting it unfold at the right time, you know?

Robbie:
Well, yes and no. So, yes, because you will be getting like the synchronicities. ’cause I believe in synchronicity, right? I think everything happens at the right time. I do believe that. But there are certain points that accelerate you towards what it is that you’re meant to

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
Or, you know, it is like when you’re at the right time for opening up according to Metatron, right? Metatron, the angel, the uh, channel, right? This is the time that most people can access this. But it’s also something like, so, you know, say you keep seeing something, seeing something that you’d like to do, right? And you keep seeing it and it’s a, a game or something that, uh, your friends have been doing for, and they’ve been doing it for years, and you always thought I’d like to give that a try, but you know, they, you kinda ignore it.

Right. And then finally you do it and it’s the most amazing thing, right? You wish you’d done it 10, 15 years ago, right? That’s kinda like how synchronicity is. It’ll keep showing you things that are maybe for you, but you’re not paying attention or you’re thinking, I don’t, I don’t know whether I’m brave enough to do that, or I don’t know whether I’m, you know, I dunno.

Um, whether I’ve got the, the, um, you know, maybe it’s not right for me, or whatever it is. And then finally you do it and then you go. Oh, I want more of this. I want more of this. more of this. You know? And, and that was with me, me, I’m a pool player. I play pool, American pool. And I started playing, almost about 10 years ago. And seriously, but I’d always been led towards doing it my whole life. The synchronicities were there. This is what you should be doing. Turns out I’m really, really good at it. I can, I can, I can

Guy:
Wow.

Robbie:
actually I love it. I wish I’d been doing it since I was 18. I wish I’d, I wish I’d taken that up when I was 80, you know, and, and so I’ve had decades where I could have been doing this really enjoyable thing that brings me joy, that’s passionate, I’m passionate about. You know, and, but I never did it, you know? And now I’m doing it. I’m like, ah, man, I could have been even better. You know? And that’s just one of these things, that’s what Meron says when you’re chasing your passion, when you realize, when you have the, the courage to actually go for whatever it is and live the life. That you want to live, everything just unfolds for you.

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
I mean? And then you are in something that’s like, well, why did I not do this 20 years ago? You know? And it’s the same with partners where, where you know, you’re, if you get an urge to go somewhere or do something, that could be your guides pushing you in the direction, something that’s great, but maybe you’re in denial or you’re saying, man, oh, that’s not real.

Or, and then when you actually. Flow and you start trusting the universe, things open up for you, you know, and you connect with the people that you’re meant to be with, and your heart opens to them because you recognize ascension is a knock on process of letting go of everything that doesn’t serve us and open up to everything that does.

And that’s basically, that’s what, that’s what, why everything that’s happening just now, even all the geopolitics, even all the scary stuff, even all the war and all the da, the hard things that are there. It’s all part of our ascension process globally, you know, but we can’t always do anything about the global events, but we can do things about the, the personal events, the internal events, our state of mind, you know, how we stay at recognizing what doesn’t serve us and opening up

Guy:
Yeah,

Robbie:
And that’s what Sens is to me. You know, it’s, and it’s just a wider knock on energy of our love opening up.

Guy:
absolutely.

Robbie:
And when, when you open your marba, you become more magnanimous, you become more gregarious, you become more brave, you know, because you’ve got nothing to fear when you’re aligning to the divine. Do you know what I mean? They say it in a religious way. It’s like when God is behind you or if God is for you. You know, why fear anything if you, you know, if you can pray, but it’s actually more about alignment with that. Do you know what I mean? When you are aligned to the divine, is nothing to fear,

Guy:
No, I love it, mate. And, and the next question I gotta ask you now is about Archangel Metatron. ’cause you, you’re talking about him like, oh yeah. You know, it, it is almost like a mate down the pubs, it just pops in. It kinda sounds, but like. So the que questions I have for you, who is he and how did you, how did you end up working with him?

Robbie:
Well, uh, uh, when I was in Circle,

Guy:
Mm-hmm.

Robbie:
telling you about the Church circle I was channeling. Um, I was, at

Guy:
Was this, was this after you opened your milk bar?

Robbie:
This was

Guy:
Right. Okay.

Robbie:
bag. Yeah. Yeah. I actually, I opened my milk bag before I went into circle, so I was

Guy:
Oh wow.

Robbie:
I, I started, see, I was like, what do, what do, what is, what am I gonna do with this? So I went to Chuck Cheese and I was like, well, what does this mean, you know? Is that I’m a Jesus now, you know, am I turning water in the wine? You know? And, and the thing is, we, you know, we’re all divine. You know? It’s like you know that it’s not you. You’re not suddenly the Messiah, you know? But you, but you are in a way as well, because everybody’s the oneness. Do you know what I mean? And that’s what Jesus was talking about when he said, the kingdom of God is within you. There’s nobody left out in this. There’s nobody less, you know, there’s nobody more. There’s just an experience. You know, so, so it is, you know, it’s not that you suddenly have a Messiah complex and you know you’re going to be feeding the 5,000, but, you, you, you bounce back from things faster.

Do you know what I mean? It’s almost like if they’re, you’re still human, you still go through your human things, but it is. Easier to deal with whatever it is that you’re facing as well, because it wasn’t, it was after I’m in blessed with Mama Kaba and then my mum passed away, I still had that personal human grief to go through. Do you know what I mean? And that was really, that’s, that’s not easy, isn’t losing your mum. And then six weeks later, my dad died and then I was like. I even, you know, it’s like part of me is, is in the state of that blessing. Part of me is the human self grieving, you know, so it helps you do with that. It would’ve been much harder if I hadn’t opened my Merkaba. You know, and, and, and you still go through your human things, but it’s just easier to be in a state of joy. It’s easier to maintain that state without things getting in the way, or mundane things or things that you have to do for, for your family or for your partner or for whatever it is. You know? It’s like, it just makes it easier and it ma and it, and it’s energizing as well.

It gives you power, it gives you potency, it gives you like when you are in that. State, you’ve got more charisma, you’ve got more, you know, you’re more magnanimous to people as well. You don’t care about these energy stealing conversations that are about one upmanship and you, you get all that, even in the spiritual, you know, community, you know, it’s almost like everybody’s trying to show their Jesus. Or their own favorite, Archangel. And they’re lovely. They’re lovely, but you know, it’s always, it’s just you get, you get more of a sense of humor about life. You know, the Archangel Medicine came to me, I think it was 2005, right? So I’d been in that state I’d, uh, for about two years. And, uh, meta drones like, um. Yeah, you’re not, I want you to channel these two books. And, um, this was in a channel and so obviously I went in a channel and, um, I didn’t finish what I was saying about when I first went in a circle. So when I first went in a circle, I was channeling, um, like people, like, it was like wise people, but it was people.

And then the, I, there was a certain point where I thought, you know, uh, uh, I’m, uh, I think I dread something about wanting to channel in higher beings. a prayer. A prayer to say, I don’t want to channel, um, people of my own level of consciousness because I’m, I’m learning some wisdom from it, but I am not learning what, what I, I think I’m capable of learning. So I stopped channeling people and I started channeling higher energy. So our higher angels or you know, the, the, the, um, different, um, higher vibrational beings. And at that point, Metatron came through and said, I want you to channel these books for me that are going to help change humanity. Right.

And, and even that sounds a bit grandiose. It’s like. you know, so, but it was like, but you’re not in the state for it. I want you to start, I want you to start fasting. I want you to do all of this stuff. And they had me training in the gym twice a day and, and I was doing, I was drinking lots of water and I was doing fast. And eventually I was able to go on a longer fast, which happened in like 2010. So I’d been working with Meron for five

Guy:
Well, no, I just wanna ask you a question on that ’cause you really brought up an important point. So did you, your body, need to get into shape to hold a, a resonance or a frequency? Is that what was happening there like.

Robbie:
well taped it was, yeah. You know, it is. Anybody can, can hold the energy of spirit because we’re built for that. But the way that Meron said it was because these books are so important, you have to be in a clear space

Guy:
Got it.

Robbie:
do it. Uh, so yeah, so, so, uh, the training and the, the, the healthy eating and I, I became vegan and I, I started doing all this stuff. That was all basically what he was telling me to do, you know, and, and when I finally got to the point where I was ready to, um, channel the clarion call, um, I was, um, I mean, I was, it, it took. Maybe 40 days within this fast after day 20. ’cause it was 79 days

Guy:
79.

Robbie:
Um, but the. 79 days. Yeah,

Guy:
shit.

Robbie:
three months. Right. But it was, it was a juice file. It was a, uh, lemon, lemon, uh, uh, cayenne pepper. It was kinda, it like the master cleanse but without the um, and I like a sweetener. It was black strap molasses. ’cause you have to keep your blood sugar up. So, uh uh, I was taking this mixer waters black sharp molasses.

Um, lemons and cayenne pepper, uh, for 79 days, you know, and, and, um, uh, during that time, I, I, um, channeled the book, you know, and, and he was like, well, you’re ready. You’re at the state ready for doing this now. You know, so, um. But that’s how I came into contact with him. He, I channeled him and he basically said, you’re not ready for any of this yet.

I’ve got work to do with you before you can do this task for me if you’re, if you’re gonna take it on. And I, and that, you know, that’s the whole thing with, with, um, whatever’s happened since over my kaba. It’s all a matter of choice. Do you know what I mean? Like, you don’t have to do any of this stuff,

Guy:
Of course.

Robbie:
like, but it’s definitely beneficial for you. It’s better. It has been so beneficial for me. You know, it’s like I’m in a better state than I was 30 years ago. You know, energetically I’m in a better state than I was. You know, I’m, I’m, you know, I’m more, I have more clarity. I have more peace. I’m, you know, I’m more open-hearted. I’m more magnanimous, you know, I’m, I’m much better

Guy:
What did your family and friends think of you? Like, you know, like, like you got this, this, this Scottish actor that’s just, you know, he’s all of a sudden he’s talking about Merkaba. He’s, he’s chaing s but he is gone on a 79 day fast. I dunno where he is. He is up in the mountains somewhere. Like, what the hell?Like, what are people thinking and say and what are like. And where’s your mindset? Do you at any point think you, you, you’re going nuts, or is it just, this is very clear. This is, you know.

Robbie:
Yeah, I mean, you know, I, I think. I think it, it is good for you to challenge yourself or to think to yourself. I, I just don’t, is this, I’m not just delusional here, but like the change that it gives you, the, the, the joy what, uh, Metatron says as well, uh, about, um, non, the gala says, um, like we’re all Buddha. are either sleeping Buddha, awake, Buddha. Um, but there’s a few people that have said this. I’ve heard this said before, you know, but it’s like what happens when you open your Merkaba is you come in your awakened Buddhist state, so you realize it’s all just an illusion, you know, and you do question yourself, the material part of you, and you think, well, what?

You’re gonna open your what? You know, it’s like, but why would that, well, me, I don’t, I don’t. Right. I don’t care right now. Let me, let me, let me, um, qualify the statement of, I don’t care. Right. So I don’t care is a statement of detachment. Uh, what, what I don’t care in sofar as whatever happens is what’s meant to happen.

I know that now. So I care in Sofar as the unconditional love part of what’s opened up in my heart. I care more than I’ve ever cared, right? But I don’t care about what happens and the way that it happens because we are all here to learn the lessons that’s right for us. Do you know what I mean? So it almost like, I don’t care anymore insofar as I’m detached from attachment to outcome. Do you know what I mean? So it’s almost like I’m at a place where I do question a lot of different things. You know, I have a good sense of humor, and I think a lot of what do is absurd. Especially, you know, like realizing spiritual things about yourself, you know, is like, oh yeah, you channel an angel.

Do you, you know, it’s like, you know, but when you, when you come. Past the point of not caring about what people think or, you know, you realize it’s about your own personal experience. You know, it is like you, you just, you, you come back into that Buddhist state and you’re able to just laugh about everything. Do you know what I mean? Because it’s all a journey for everybody, you know, and whether that’s whether you’re going through hard, dark things or whether you’re going through high enlightened things, it’s all just an experience. And we’re only here for a little while. And why not test the capabilities of what you’re, what you’re able to do. You know, that’s what I think I encourage people to open up, you know, and to, and, and whatever their own personal passions or proclivities are within themselves. You know, I’m, I’m here to help open them up. And I do that from being, from your original question, from being an ascension artist. that’s how I kind of see myself, you know, it’s like everything is here, it’s all temporary.

It’s like these Buddhist, uh, uh, that do the manda, the, the mandalas, and it’s all in. They do it. They spend two days doing it or whatever, and then as soon as they’ve done it, they shake it and it all just disappears. And it is like, well, why would you want to waste your work? You know, you could have glazed it. You could have sold it. That’s money for the monastery. But the, but the, the lesson in that is that’s what we are all doing. We are all making a mandala. You know, we’ve only got a certain

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
and once it’s done we’ll shake it all and we’ll

Guy:
Wow.

Robbie:
into the oneness again.

Guy:
Ain’t that the truth, huh? Yeah. So whe when you, you work with him to this day, so when you work with people, you spoke about. It comes through. It’s not me doing it. It’s yourself doing it, you know, it’s opening up. How, how does that mechanism work? How would you describe it to people you know?

Robbie:
It is, it is been more, even more intense since I started doing the energy flow opening. So go in, uh, uh, uh, uh, CH state, right? I go in a meditative state, right? And I, and I, I sit in this meditative state. Then I feel this loving presence coming over me. That’s more than just my love.

Guy:
Mm-hmm.

Robbie:
And it expands. And it expands. And I get into a, it’s like a deeper bliss state I can get into with myself, right? usually I’ll hear a word or a phrase repeated over and over in my head, I’ll let it repeat enough times so that I know that it’s just not my internal monologue, And then I repeat it and then. I keep talking and as I keep talking, the love, the flow of energy, the, the, the, the e emanation of love from me magnifies Right? And whoever’s in that session feels that themselves as well. The feel, the love come, and especially if you’re a sensitive. You know, they feel that love. And the, the energy flow openings that I do, that helps clear the, the, all the chakras or all the, you know, the, the, the flow of energy.

’cause where a pool of energy or, or kundalini rises from the base to the crown, right? But that is, that, that mechanism goes to the, to the rum, go and goes to the, the pineal gland, goes to the, the third eye. And we, we, we open up, but. When we’re, when we’re in that flow, it doesn’t just flow up, it flows down as well at the same time.

And that’s you having the experience of the AL field. And when Mechon comes through with me, I’m having the fullest experience that I can have in that space. So it’s like the, the, uh, the, the energy is just I’m, I’m just in Blesseds, you know? And then the people that are in the session, they feel that energy too.

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
You know, so it’s almost like this is, is, uh, an expansion of the. It is hard to explain really, you know, but it, but it is, is a, is a, a, a visceral, potent, um, experience that, that I is, it is like, if you can do that, why wouldn’t you do it? You know, like, like if you can open your MEbA and you can come in a blissful state, and you can not only be helped. Mentally, emotionally, physically, spiritually, you having clarity, you are having, you know, you, you letting go of the doubt about your capabilities or you know, or anything that you’re doing in your life that enhances everything.

Guy:
Totally.

Robbie:
do it? it is almost like, well, it’s a no brainer. You know, as they would say in America, it’s like, why wouldn’t you do it? Why wouldn’t you want to do that? And I help people do, I help people do it in coaching and in energy flow openings, and I help them open up, but I encourage people to do it themselves. Do you know what I mean? So it’s like there’s only, it is because I’m, it’s almost like the days of the guru are over. Do you know what I mean?

It’s good to get in the guru’s aura and, and feel that energy, but you are your own guru, you know? You are you, you are, you are as you are as capable of getting into this state as I am. You know, I might have been at it for a bit longer and can help people along their way with it. But ultimately it’s about that, that it’s about you.

You take, you recognizing the power that’s within you, know, when you recognize the power that’s within you, anything is possible and now globally, more and more people are opening up. More and more people are opening up to, you know, all of the different things that are happening. Everybody’s got their own take on what’s going on, right?

But this is a reflection of our collective consciousness. What’s happening globally, all the geopolitics, all the crazy stuff that people are losing their minds over. It’s a reflection of our collective consciousness and each person that opens their heart, each person that opens their merkaba each person that clears their shakta and raises their kundalini and comes into master of their own body, mind, and soul is, is contributing to the raising of that collective consciousness. To the lifting up to into that love state because we are love. We are all love. It’s all just an illusion. You know, I mean, you realize that when you come into that center point, you know, it’s almost like, like I say, it’s like it’s a no brainer. Why wouldn’t you, you know, why would you wanna be stuck in people holding you back or holding you down, or, you know, telling that you are, you can’t achieve anything, or you can’t make a difference and you can’t make a difference.

But you, you have to make a difference for yourself first. And that’s the, the, we have to put our own oxygen mask on first before we can put anybody else’s oxygen mask on. Or we’ll just pass out with all the that’s going on in the world just now. Do you know what I mean? If you let it, it’ll overwhelm you, you know? So why not come into that blessed? Why not come into that state of love? You know?

Guy:
I, I, I hear you like fully. I’m, I’m just nodding my head. You know, that’s why we hold space for people and, and we see more and more people just coming, coming in, going, wanting something different. And, and especially in our five day retreats, you know, in the, using the, the power of group energy, when people start to feel.

That presence come in and feel that that heart expansion and that being held, but it, it’s life changing. And once they, because some people have not even felt love their entire life. And when they actually have an experience like that, they’re remembering. It’s like Bruce Lipton talks about it. The the cell will, will start to sprout and grow it. It remembers, it’s just, it just hasn’t felt it in such a long time.

Robbie:
It just

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
It just needs nurtured, and that’s what’s happening just now. More people are opening up

Guy:
Mm.

Robbie:
to open up into that bliss, and they’re getting nurtured by the people that realize that their potential, that

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
And the more it is happening, there’s nothing gonna stop the global ascension. Do you know what I mean? We are like, that’s what Han said, Han said, um, humanity’s resistance or you know, the, the dark resistance, the cabal resistance, the whatever you want to call it. Resistance, right? The people that are trying to, know, trying to subdue us, you know, it’s like they, they, they are like a dried twig on the line of

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
train. And the freight train is the people that are opening to their light bodies that are opening to their love. You know, that are realizing that, that they’re here to experience that divinity in, in mand, you know, so it’s like we are here to bring the world that would, that would you that black is white and you know, up is down put you down. You know, and instead of believing any of that, it’s like we’re coming into the truth of our own divinity. You know, and it’s like, that’s got a knock on

Guy:
Yeah.

Robbie:
world, you know? So the world’s changing. We’re coming into transparency. We’re coming into the point where all of, and that’s what Meron talks about in the Clarion call as well, like all the old systems, political systems, different things will crumble. Like there’s a lot of things that are, that are trembling just now in the, in the wake of truth. You know, in the wake of, of, of Lightworkers, that’s what I call it, um, the, the, that’s what Metro calls the clan call the Ultimate Guide for Lightworkers.

Guy:
why Clarion Call? What, what does that reference, what does that mean?

Robbie:
Uh, well, that’s what Rin told me, um, to call it. So it is like a trumpet call. It’s like saying, here we go. Look, look, have a look at this. Open your Merkaba. Recognize your divinity. Do you know what I mean? It is like, you are divine. You’re here to, to out all these things. It’s like, it’s, it is like not, it’s like, it’s like being like that for, for 20 years.

And then somebody says, why don’t you open your eyes? And you go, what do you mean? Open my eyes? did you open your eyes? Just give it a try. Try opening your eyes. Have a look at your, what do you mean? And they go like that. What? I could have done this 20 years ago. You know? That’s what it’s like. It’s like realizing that the, the designs that we can put on our life, our personal life, the lives of the people around us, you know, everybody that comes into contact with us. When everybody does that, what is this saying? You know, if everybody brushes their, their front door, the whole world will be clean. You know, it is like, so, you know, that’s a paraphrase. That’s not the right quote, but what’s that effect? You know, you take care of your own energy system and you’re taking care of your children.

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
taking care of your partner, you’re taking care of your family, you’re taking care of everything. So it’s like, I’ll take care of me for you. And you take care of you. For me, it’s like when we’re doing that, everything transforms,

Guy:
A, a amen to that. Absolutely. And I see so many people put themselves lost. They don’t feel they’re worthy. They like, they even feel guilty and coming to one of our workshops or something like by actually just coming and, and giving up. For everyone else to actually be there for themselves for once. You know what I mean? And it, it’s, and it needs to flip if we, if Yeah. I always remember Wayne Dyer saying that if you, like, if you picture a cup, you know, a teacup on a saucer that you have, you, your cup has to overflow first, and then everyone can come in and drink from the saucer. You know what I mean?

Robbie:
Exactly, but that’s what you are. You’re a fountain of that. And when you’re taking care of it is not that you’re being selfish. You’re not being selfish. You’re actually being, you’re actually being selfless because if you are really taking care of yourself and you are overflowing that everybody

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
And it’s like the difference between magnetic healing and spiritual healing, right? Magnetic healing. A healer heals from themselves. They, and then somebody comes in and they’ve got something really bad with ’em and they, they get, they get drained. They get drained, and they end up being ill. Right. That’s magnetic healing.

That’s basically what we’re doing with the energy. Stealing of, of, um, you know, control dramas and whatnot. We’re taking energy from each other, you know, or we’re making an argument, or we’re being aloof, or we’re being angry, or we’re being interrogative, or whatever it is to make the other person feel a certain way, and then we get the energy of that and we are like, raised up.

Right? That’s magnetic healing. That’s not good for you, but if you, but if you, spiritual healing is from spirit. Through spirit to spirit. So from the divine through you to a spirit, right? So it’s not just about healing, but that healing is a circuit, and that circuit is, doesn’t deplete you of anything, right?

So the, the, the same healer doing spiritual healing from the, the circuit perspective gets energized. They don’t get depleted. But it’s not just about healing somebody hands on healing or anything like that. It’s about the way we live. If you are in the magnetic state that the, the, um, magnetic healing state of energy stealing from other people, you are always going to end up depleted. Whereas if you plug into the oneness, you are in the di divine dynamic of your own thoro field, your own Merkaba, your own chakras, your own light body. You can’t be depleted. what I mean? You can’t be depleted in that state. You will, you’ll not only be energized in your day-to-day life, but you’ll be energizing everybody else around

Guy:
Hmm.

Robbie:
You know? it’s like coming into these principles. That’s what heals the world. That’s what is going to heal the world. ’cause that’s the real, it is those realizations. It’s like, well open your eyes, Just open your eyes. You know? You’ve got this inside. You already, you’ve got these eyes are precious. Use them. They’re a gift, you know?

Guy:
Beautiful. Robbie, where can people get your book and check out more mate?

Robbie:
Uh, well check out robbie mckenzie.com. Um, for all, everything that I do, all my books are, well, the books will take you to the link to the relevant Amazon page, uh, in your country, right? So, uh, but look on Amazon. Um, the, um, uh, Metro. This is Declining Call Metro.

This is a healing book and collect to council books, um, to, to help you open up your energy system. And, and what it is that I do is on the um, robbie mackenzie.com. Have a look@robbiemackenzie.com. See what people say about me. all the reviews for that. People have, uh, connected with me throughout the years and, uh, the reviews in my book, look at the reviews of the Clarion call. Um, you know, have a, just have a look at how, how, you know, how it helps people or whatever. And last year I did the, the, um, audio book.

Guy:
Oh, did you?

Robbie:
an audio, audio book on Audible of Metro. This is Dec declaring call. So, uh, have a look that’s on the Amazon page as

Guy:
Ah.

Robbie:
So have a wee look at that. And that’s an instant download. So if you want to listen to that, you know, if it is taking you some time to get the, the book. Um, so, um, it’s, yeah. So,

Guy:
Fantastic. Yeah, I’m, I’m waiting for the book to arrive in the mail. I ordered it like it’s coming from the uk so I’ll like, I’ll, I’ll actually chase it up ’cause I’m looking forward to getting stuck into it, mate.

Robbie:
It available in the Australian Amazon,

Guy:
Is it? I’ll check. I’ll, I’ll double check. Yeah. Yeah.

Robbie:
is it’s available in on, on, um, Amazon

Guy:
Okay.

Robbie:
there. but yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it is an absolute pleasure. You know, it’s, it is, it is. Know, it’s, it is lovely. You’re doing a great job. I’ve been looking at your podcasts, you know, you’re connecting the right people and it is all synchronizing, you know, and things

Guy:
I, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s funny, like, ’cause my podcast has, has grown, especially over the last 18 months, a considerable amount and, and, uh, I get emails literally every day now for people trying, wanting to come on the show, which is amazing. Like, I’m creating a platform to, to, to have conversations and bring people into the light really.

So people are aware. But it, it’s, it’s hard. It’s hard, but I still do it the same way as I’ve always done, where if it resonates and it feels right, I do it. And if it’s not, I, I, you know, I, I don’t question it and I just, and, uh,

Robbie:
That’s the best way. ’cause that’s your

Guy:
and it just, yeah.

Robbie:
self is doing it, you know? So keep going the way that you’re

Guy:
Yeah, no, it.

Robbie:
well. You know, it’s like you’re, you’re connecting people and you can see that it’s your passion, you

Guy:
Yeah. Yeah. And Robbie, thanks so much buddy. That was legendary podcast mate. I’ll put that up there. That was a good one.

Robbie:
you are very welcome. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Thanks for asking me on. I appreciate it. It was lovely. It was, it was lovely. Now I see all that you do. Um, I’m honored to

Guy:
Oh mate. We’ll get you back on in the future for sure. There’s so many things I could talk to you about, mate, have no doubt.

Robbie:
yeah, I look forward to, I look forward to

Guy:
Thanks, legend.

Robbie:
bless. Thank you.