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Mark:
There’s all these theories that this is the Doomsday Comet. It’s garbage, it’s nonsense. It’s releasing codes and frequencies to help humanity evolve. You are your own savior. You are the way. You are the light. You are the truth, and we need to stop waiting for something outside of us to happen. They talk to me a lot about sacred geometry. And in one breath, the original soul of my body from conception to 16 went away, and this 30 foot bean made in icosahedron which is a geometric, plate of solids and came into my heart area and brought me back to life.

Guy:
Guy here. My epic guest today is Mark Patterson. And, uh, boy, what a conversation. So you might be wondering where I’m standing right now. If you’re listening to this audio, it’s no good to you or in video. I’m actually on a rooftop of a hotel in Rome.

Guy:
Uh, I’m on my way to Croatia and I stayed, uh, overnight here in Rome. Just five, five Ks from the airport, I think. Not too far, but, uh, get over, help, get over the jet lag. It is one long flight coming to Europe, Patalia, and uh, I’m. Coming alone. Uh, I’ve left my family back in Australia for this one. Make a short visit, which of course I missed terribly. But, um, yeah, excited about our Croatia retreat that starts in split in a few days. So I thought I’d, uh, uh, mix up the intro a little bit and record it here on the this glorious day. Beautiful. I mean, it’s still early in the morning, but anyway, I digress. Mark Patterson, what a legend. Uh, he’s been on my podcast before, but when we recorded it, probably about 18 months ago now, uh, he had audio issues at the time.

And, uh, and it was such a great podcast. I, I published it anyway and we got it out there, but, you know, give listeners a bit of a heads up. Anyway, I reached out to Mark to see if he wanted to come back on and, uh, and he did, and here we are. So, I I, I generally don’t get into bios as well when introducing guests because, uh, that’s the conversations about, let’s. But, you know, let’s, let’s, uh, let’s get into what they’re about. Where am I going with this? You can tell I’m a bit sleep deprived. Anyway, the point is, is that, uh, you’ll find out all about Mark. Uh, look, we get into some fascinating topics. His near death experience when he is younger is mind blowing, his journey’s mind blowing.

What he has to say is, um. Pr pretty, pretty mind blowing as well. We get into three I Atlas as well. We get into what’s happening on the planet and we also get into his, um, opinions and theories around a lot of this stuff. Uh, and it’s a great podcast. It’s very inspiring. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it wherever you are in the world. Please be sure to let me know, uh, in the comments. And, uh, yeah, continue to connect. If you get something out of it, hit the like button, subscribe button, all that rest of it helps me continue to get these messages out there in YouTube. Anyway, if you just happen to be listening to this and you’re gonna be at the Croatian retreat, I look forward to seeing you in person.

Make sure, and if I ever get to see you in person, I always come up and say hello. Uh, I love to meet, uh, people that tune into the podcast because I have no idea half the time I was listening to this bloody thing. So, uh, it’s good to put a, a, a name. Behind the face or just the number or the subscriber that’s on YouTube. It’s all just, it’s not real, is it? It’s the people behind it that matters. It’s you, me, and, and everyone else listening to. Anyway, I am completely rambling now myself, for me. Enjoy this woman, mark. It’s, it’s awesome, and I’ll see you soon.

Guy:
mark, I’ve hit record. Welcome to podcast. Let’s go there now. ’cause like we say, we were talking off air, and as you’re sharing I’m like, oh, tell me more. And, and so I’ve, I’ve hit record, so we’ll get back into backstory in a sec for people that don’t know you. But, but let’s dive in. So you had this experience in January of this year. Is that right?

Mark:
So yeah, it was, uh, January 20th of this year. Uh, I, I had an experience, uh, where I was in a very deep sleep state and all of a sudden I heard, I heard this explosion. I’m convinced that a bomb went off next door, like, you know, war had broke out. And, you know, being a father, all the thoughts are racing through my mind. Where are my kids at? Am I gonna be able to get to my kids? Uh, who do I need to call? What’s going on? Because the, the explosion was so loud and so startling that it, it, it scared the, the crap outta me. And then all of a sudden I realized that I’m starting to wake up and this angelic voice comes to me and explains to me that that explosion took place within me.

And it was literally my consciousness expanding through time and space. And, and so here’s this really amazing, so, uh, to create a heightened level of awareness, um, there, I, I really do feel transcended at times, but I’m still very human. You can ask my ex-wife, she’ll tell you all about it. Um, but so I’m involved in a private group called Ger Galactic Envoy Response Team. And I posted this dream in the chat group with what we got about 13, 14 people. And my friend Allison goes, mark, you’ve gotta be kidding me. ’cause she had the same experience verbatim the week prior to me. Now this is what I’m thinking. You know, a lot of people in the new age, new thought are talking about this solar flare, this the Grand Solar event that’s going to happen and that’s supposed to awaken humanity.

I’m almost wondering, guy, if the grand solar flare is going to happen on an individual basis, like it happened to me, it happened to Allison and some other people have talked about it, that maybe the grand solar flare that people are talking about, it is an inside job and that it’s going to trigger like a domino effect. You know, like one after the other people start having these experiences and then we come together as a collective, as an awakening because, you know, ads above so below as within so without, so we’re, it’s all, it’s all

Guy:
And to me that feels extremely. Positive what you’re saying right there, and that, that really starts to put the emphasis back on us if we want to lean into the things that are coming up for us and actually explore the pains, the traumas, the, the, the things that we, we push under the carpet to, to allow that to start to air out the closet, if you like, and allow our, our frequencies to start to, to shift and our body to incorporate these, these higher dimensional frequencies that are happening on the planet.

Mark:
Yeah. I, I just think humans, we get caught in this illusion that there’s some, there’s going to be some external event that’s going to save us. You are, it, you know, you, you are your own savior. You are, you are the way, you are the light, you are the truth. And you know, we need to stop waiting for something outside of us to happen. ’cause it’s the new earth is already within you. The new frequency’s already within you. It’s a, you know, because this is a re a reflective holographic universe, everything is a reflection of what’s going on, going on within you. And so you really have to, to realize that it’s always an inside job, and that as, as you are in alignment with these new frequencies, the new earth that’s already here is going to be revealed to you.

It’s not that it’s out there. It the frequencies of the new earth, the new paradigm, the new collective is within you. It’s within all of us, and it’s whether we are actually in harmonic alignment

Guy:
Exactly. Exactly. ’cause it feels like, you know, I’m, I’m kind up to nearly 400 episodes, right? Mark and I also run my own, we run retreats and events and, you know, we bring people together and, and, and it definitely feels like everyone can agree on at the moment this shift. We’re in this pivotal time in history right now. Like where things are accelerating. Yeah.

Mark:
happening. It’s

Guy:
You know, I think we can all agree on that, you know, but whether the, the, like you speak about, of the solar flares, ’cause I’ve, I’ve heard things talked about it, but I haven’t explored that that too much. But what you’re saying to me resonates a lot. That, that that’s the awakening within us, you know, which for me gets me excited. And on that then, with your experiences, and we can, we’ll lean in for listeners, why you coming to these conclusions as well and from your own journey? ’cause your journey’s mind blowing by the way. Like, I, I look forward getting into it, but, but then with this comet, this three I atlas or not a comet, that’s actually happening as we speak.

There’s a lot of, um. Uh, talk about what it is, why it’s here, the trajectory that it’s on, that it’s no accident. Like it, it all seems to be happening. This, this theatrical space events, if you like, that are all happening at the moment. You know? I mean, what are your thoughts on that as well? That are, that are happening?

Mark:
Yeah, right, exactly. And like we were discussing, uh, prior to recording, uh, I was told my dreams, ’cause I asked about this and I, I do get a lot of information, my dreams, that it’s not a, it’s not a comment, a comment. It’s not a comment. It’s not like the HaBO comment that happened 30 some years ago. Um. This thing has an intelligence, and it’s releasing codes, it’s releasing energetic codes and frequencies onto the planet. And these frequencies can be very beneficial if we learn to, uh, interpret them and absorb them properly. What we don’t wanna do is get into the fear, you know, because there’s all, I mean, with YouTube and, and Instagram, there’s all these theories that this is the doomsday comet and, uh, that’s just gar, it’s garbage, it’s nonsense.

Um, it’s releasing codes and frequencies for, to help, uh, humanity evolve. Uh, and it could help humanity going the other way, but it’s for us to utilize those energies and frequencies for our highest good. I do believe there’re beings on there. I don’t, I, but they’re, what I was shown in my dreams is they’re, they’re dormant, you know, they’re like, they’re, they’re. They’re waiting, but I, I, I don’t think it’s a threat to humanity. Uh, I, I don’t, I I don’t, I don’t get that feeling at all. I, I think that I, I, again, it’s emitting codes and frequencies to help humanity

Guy:
And again, it comes back to the, it’s up to us what we decide to do with that, right? I mean, even, even on the healing journey, it’s up to us if we, uh, um, develop our awareness enough to be the witness of what is wanting to move within us and create an actual space and allow that, that stuck energy, or whatever you wanna call it, trauma, to move through us, that’s freeing this energy up that allows us to then resonate at a higher frequency. Right.

Mark:
right?

Guy:
Yeah. And it’s up to us. If we impose the fear upon that when it’s happening and suppress it and take medication, drink alcohol, watch Netflix, and run away from it, or actually just be with it and not make it mean anything more than what is actually going on, which is what we’re incredibly good at doing is making, making up

Mark:
Oh, we o overthink it. Yeah. Making up crap. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Some of the stuff out there about it is just, it’s in, it’s insane. You know? It’s like, wow, you know, but I, I’m, you know, I know there’s a lot of chaos in the planet, especially what’s going on here in America, but I’m actually really excited. In fact, I was, I was talking to my friend about this the other day. There’s no logical explanation, but I’ve never felt better. I feel like I’m five years old again and I’m playing T-ball. Excited to be on the baseball field. Excited just to play the game. Excited just to partake. ’cause I think, you know, I’ve. I’ve done a lot of podcast interviews over the last few years. I say this over and over again.

It’s important for people to understand that there are literally, there are literally countless millions of souls lining up to come to Earth right now. This is where the actions at and the reason is, um, guy is that as we ascend or we, we, again, the new earth is within us, as we align the frequencies to the new Earth and it’s revealed back to us, it’s going to be a domino effect, a chain reaction, and thousands and thousands of other galaxies will simultaneously awaken, but it starts here on this planet.

Guy:
That’s wild. So.

Mark:
Oh, that, that’s, that’s why they’re lined up to be here. It’s a, you know, it’s quite, it’s quite a privilege. We forget that, you know, we tend to dismiss having a body. Oh, it’s not that important. Well, actually it is because in one sense, one of your roles as a human or having a body, it’s the ability to take the non-physical energy and transform it into the physical to take that which is not seen and make it seen to that which is not known, and make it known. And guess what guy? You have to have a body to do it. You can’t, you can’t transform the non-physical into the physical without a body. And that is the magic. See, we we’re, we’re all magicians. We, you know, we just forgot that, you know, that we, we, we have this magical ability to take energy thought. Have it manifest. It’s pretty, it’s pretty a special, it’s a special opportunity.

Guy:
it’s, it’s amazing ’cause I get excited by this because even just on my own journey over the years, I keep leaning in to, is there more? What is the potential, what is the potential of this energy you speak of? And how does that then affect my, my reality within it? And how, and my inner being, you know, like get into certain qualities of peace, of joy, of happiness that I didn’t even know were possible for the first 35 years of my life. Right? And now it’s kind of like this living part of it, but to the point where you feel that energy, you feel those frequencies, you feel other beings come into your energy field when you start to go into deeper states of consciousness. And that to me is, it feels like a remembering of who I am. It’s like coming home to yourself and it’s almost like.

People don’t know that this is possible and that coming home, so they fill it with something else because they know there’s more, but they can’t even put words to it, if that makes sense.

Mark:
Oh yeah, there’s definitely more. I mean, there’s, there’s a greater part of you that exists outside of you, but you know, the joy, the magic is, is right here, right

Guy:
When, while we still, yeah. While we’re still on this topic though, just because I, I wanna dive into your experiences in a moment, was, um, I believe you mentioned on the podcast, correct me if I’m wrong, but the et contact would reveal itself at a certain point in humanity knowing that there’s, there’s other life forms out there, or humanity would know that.

Mark:
Um, based on my understanding, um, as far as I know right now, that should happen towards the end of next year, the first part of

Guy:
Right, because I was gonna say, is this anything with this three I Atlas that’s coming or is here related to that? I don’t know. I’m just hypothesizing you.

Mark:
Well, it’s definitely, it’s, the codes are accelerating the process. That’s my understanding.

Guy:
Yeah.

Mark:
I, um, I, I, I think that, I mean, just like a few months ago, the Pentagon re released all these videos of UFOs and, you know, those things, you know, going over the place, going all over the place. And, you know, 30, 40 years ago, our military would’ve never done that. I just think that the, you know, there’s so many reportings of UFOs and things like, and I’ve had encounters all, all my life. I, you know, I, I think that, um, it’s hard to deny and dismiss that, that it, it’s not out there. You know, there’s, um, I think it’s in a, where you’re at in Australia, there’s a tribe. It has a picture that looks like kind of the atlas that’s been kind of going around, you know, social media.

Again, I, I don’t know if it’s ar or not, I don’t think it is because it’s been posted from all over the world, you know, but I, there’s, and also all the hi hieroglyphs. I’ve been to Egypt three times and there’s hieroglyphs all over Egypt, Australia, south America, north America, especially in the, uh, native American tribes of the Southwest, the Anasi and Hopi. That there are other beings out there, you know, they drew these other be, or in like, uh, south America, Mitsubishi, Peru, uh, Teti one K and Mexico. Uh, all this quote, sacred sites have drawings of other beings, of other galaxies. So, um, uh, I, I think it’s strange that we spend billions of dollars looking for ets and all the evidence is right here on the planet.

It’s like we spend, we, we spend, people spend their lives looking for God, you know, at the church or the whatever, when God’s already within you. You know, we do everything kind of half-assed backwards

Guy:
was gonna say that exactly. We are always looking outside of ourselves for the bloody answers. Right. It is gotta be out there. So we’d even looking into the universe and sending probes off, like, it’s gotta be out there, you know, and it’s, and it’s right here all along, you know, just for the, the skeptics listening to this, um, like how did you come to the conclusion of it’ll reveal itself, you were shown, was that through a dream, uh, at the time or a vision, you know.

Mark:
So on, um, February of 2022, I was at the grocery SI don’t think I, I dunno if I talked about this the last time I was on, but in February, 2022 I was next door at Publix, which is a grocery store. You know, they’re all over the south here, uh, especially down in Florida. And I’m pushing the cart guy and all of a sudden I have this super intense, energetic, kundalini like, experience why I am walking to the grocery store and I’m trying to hold it together. Right. You know, ’cause you’re having this, it feels like an energetic download. It feels like an energetic upload. And my, I’m on fire eternally. I mean, my body is smoking hot and, um, it’s like nothing I’ve ever experienced before and I’m trying to push my cart, keeping my mind cool and not freaking out about what’s going on.

And you can tell people are staring at me ’cause they know that something’s going on. I don’t know what’s going on, but something’s going on. Right. And, uh, that, so after, so after 20 minutes, so it kind of settled, settled down. I had to go out and walk around outside and really ground myself from that experience. And that’s when I had that flash of insight, you know, the, the, the zen saying, the satori satori, instant fla, instant flash, instant insight that the new earth. Was already within us, and it was all about whether we were gonna be in a vibrational alignment with it. Because once you’re into that harmonic space, then you’ll see it, you’ll live it, you know, it’s already there.

It has always, always, always been there. You know, it’s like, you know, Jesus said, the king of God is within you, and yet we keep waiting for the afterlife. You know, you don’t, that’s, you don’t have to die in order to experience heaven. It’s, it’s within you right now here

Guy:
Yeah. I love it. It’s literally with, it’s, it’s, we’re learning how to tune into the radio frequencies that are already around us. Right. And we just improve it.

Mark:
They’re already within

Guy:
Around us. Within us, it’s, it’s, it’s everywhere.

Mark:
within us. Yeah. It’s all here. Yeah. It’s all right

Guy:
the fishbowl pretty much, and, uh, letting it in. So with that, it all in mind then, what, can you take us back a little bit? ’cause I, I’d love to rehear your story as well, if you don’t mind, but you always have it, like, did you, were, did you come into this planet when you were born with having spiritual experiences? Were, were, were you from the get go? You were.

Mark:
Abso Riggly. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I, as a kid, you know, as a kid, I, you know, like you draw imaginary things, I always drew about a spaceman. From out another planet who came, like when I was like four or five years old, I was five six, always writing about stuff like that, you know, spacemen coming down to the planet. And, um, I just always knew things about people, guy. I saw lights around people. Uh, I would hear voices or angels all the time. Um, I would, I I would just know things. And of course, um, I was always told, shut up. Don’t talk about that. Why do you know that? Don’t repeat that. You shouldn’t know that. And, um, so yeah, I mean, I felt really alienated.

I, I felt it was like crazy. And, well, the one thing that is interesting, and we’ll get to it later when we talk about my NDE, anytime I felt like I didn’t belong or I wasn’t loved, I always had this dream that I would be inside my bedroom closet. And when I was inside my bedroom closet, in my dreams. I felt loved. I felt like I belonged. I had everything that I wanted. I had Winnie the Poo, Tigger, uh, Disneyland, my God, Disneyland, Disney. I didn’t go to Disney World until I was like 37 years old. So I, I had all, you know, I had everything that I ever wanted. I always found my way inside my bedroom closet when I would dream that over and over again.

Well, 40 some years later, you figure out, or whatever, 30 some years later, whatever it was, you figure out everything that you want, everything you desire is already inside your bedroom, closet, your heart. It’s already within you. Now, I’ll bring that up later in a little bit. But, um, then of course, I, I had encounters with et I had encounters with ets, UFOs, you know, I, I remember walking, you know, I lived in, uh, I’m from Iowa City, Iowa. Um, I would. Go outside and I would see the ships, you know, the, the round ships, like the maybe close encounters of the third kind, identical to those. And of course, I’d go to my mom, mom, come out, come out, they’re here, they’re here, come on, come on, come on. And she’d come outside and she couldn’t see ’em,

Guy:
So you could see them and your mom couldn’t at the same time. Isn’t that

Mark:
That’s correct. It’s kinda, it’s like, you know, the, the Native Americans tell the story that when the sellers first came to America, they didn’t see ’em because there’s no reference point of reality for them. So there there’s no I idea of what they, what they were. So they couldn’t see them or they were just at a different biracial rate. So, uh. My mom wouldn’t see them. And of course, what the hell are you talking about, mark? What, what? And then of course, she wouldn’t come out anymore, no matter how many times I would see them. And sometimes they would like fly right above me and then they would form like a little ball of light and then, you know, they were gone again.

You know, that inter interdimensional travel thing that they do? They, they have the, they have the flux capacitor guy. Uh, I need to get me one of those flux

Guy:
go down a wormhole or something, you know, they just

Mark:
Right,

Guy:
pop out the other

Mark:
right. They’re, they’re going so, so un, you know, unfortunately, I was very confused because I’m seeing all this stuff. I’m hearing all this stuff. I’m having these unbelievable experiences, and I’m being told that I’m crazy. So you learn not to trust yourself. So by the time I was 13 years old, I, I just started to drink alcohol because I didn’t want to see anymore. I didn’t want to feel anymore. I didn’t want to hear voices anymore. And I found that that was the only way to numb it

Guy:
13.

Mark:
And I wasn’t drinking 13, 13, 14, somewhere around there. I’ve smoked my first joint probably when I was 14 years old. Um, it was just I, because it shut it all, it shut it all off. And Guy, I wasn’t drinking wine coolers or Bud Light Miller Light. I was drinking Jack Daniels, Jim Bean, you know, Johnny Walker. And, um, so, uh, when I was 16 years, 16 years old, I went to a high school party. I was not trying to do this. I was trying to impress my older classmates. So, uh, I chugged a fifth of vodka. Four beers, two glasses of wine, and like three or four wine coolers in about 90 minutes. Uh, needless to say, my body went into cardiac arrest from acute alcohol poisoning. My skin was black, green, and purple. Um, so I, I died and when I left my body at the, uh, I was at the Canterbury and in Coralville, Iowa Canterbury Inn Suites in Coralville, Iowa. And I was trying to get all my classmates attention. And of course, my Christ will help fell upon deaf ears ’cause they can’t hear you.

And anyone who’s had a near death experience, guy will tell you that when you first leave your body, it’s frightening ’cause you’re like, uhoh. What the hell is going on here? And then my grandfather, Russell, who passed away when I was about two or three years old, he came to me and he says, um, Marcus Aurelius, because that’s what he called me when I was a kid. He says, you’re going home now. Oh, great boy, mark, you messed that one up. Good job. So then we went into the light and you hear the Elohim, the angels that sing hymns to God. They talk about in the Bible, the Elohim and God, there’s so much love, there’s so much love for us. The, the love, the comfort, compassion, forgiveness that Heaven has for us. I, I can’t put into words.

And then there were about seven angels. They were 14 feet tall each. They were female in appearance. And there was like, uh, I always, to me it was like the movie Star Wars. The Empire strikes back the city, city of the clouds. That’s kind of what it was like. And there was a hologram of my life, like a table, holographic table. And you know, you all, there’s no judgment, there’s no hell. But you do the, you do this thing called a life review. And you also experience what, like if you inflicted pain on someone else, you experience that from their perception and you get to, you feel what they felt. And that’s to get you to, to a state of compassion and forgiveness and non-judgment.

So anytime that I was angry, resentful, or blamed other people, the angels asked me, how does that relate to love? And everything in life is an opportunity to express love. Forgiveness means for giving your love away no matter what happens to you if you’re always out getting the Rolex and the Jaguar and the houses. And don’t get me wrong, material things are important. If you’re always out forgetting those things, you are forgetting who you are. And then, uh, they introduced me to a being that was about 30 to 40 feet tall who had all this love for me. Um, and he was a, like a giant in the Bible talks about. And those days where the giants, the giants saw that the wives of men were fair and took them as their own.

The children that were born them were, were men of great renowned and great strength. And they talked to me a lot about sacred geometry, healing through sound. Frequencies and the Melchizedek priesthood. And in one i, I guess breath you would call it, um, the original soul of my body from conception to 16 went away, uh, with Russell and this 30 foot being made in a icosahedron which is a geometric, uh, geometric plate of solids and came into my heart area and brought me back to life. So, um, in new age terms, I’m a walk-in, but I really think now after I’ve studied all this for many, many years now, and there’s a book by Barbara and Brendan called Hands of Light. It’s on page 2 62 and it says, future lifetimes can be placed in the ORIC field. At the beginning of birth and can be taken on at the completion of a lifetime if an individual so chooses. So, in a sense, an aspect of me from the future came back through time and space to be here. Now I,

Guy:
Wow. That makes a lot. First of all, Barbara and Brendan comes up a lot on these podcasts. She’s a legend from what I understand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ve got a copy of it actually myself. Uh, wow.

Mark:
So, yeah, so Guy, I always joke, you know, I always joke and I say that I evolved five lifetimes with the fifth of vodka. Don’t try that at home, you may not get the same results.

Guy:
totally. God, there’s so many questions. You’ve, which direction to go in? So first of all, um, you talked about sacred geo geometry and also my deck, is that how you pronounce it? Mal he priest who’s come into my york fields a few times. But are, are you able to exp do you know much about him and that relationship with sacred geometry and, and his

Mark:
Well, I, well, Mel, who brought the Flower Life teachings really to the planet in the last, uh, 30 years or so, um, he li, he and I lived in Sedona, and I’d run into him all the time. But according to Dr and others, melek, the priesthood, they’re the ones, they’re the timekeepers. They’re the gatekeepers. They’re the ones that control, uh, the timelines. And the Bible says Jesus was like, melek. And thou forever, thou forever shall be a priest of nek. And you know, just, you know, like, we’ll say that so and so that. John here is like Michael Jordan, or Kevin is plays basketball like Michael Jordan. And so when they said Jesus is like melek, it often makes me wonder was melek the, the, the king of kings or the true kings, you know, if or if he was just, you know, like a, an an, an aspect of that.

Because there was a, a very specific caste system that they showed me, you know, like a hierarchy and in one sense that that was done so I could understand it. But in the other aspect is that we’re all one. There really is no hierarchy. Does that make sense? Sounds like angels and guides give you information. They tweak it just so that we can understand it, but it may not be a hundred percent

Guy:
Yeah, yeah. No, it, it does, it does. And questions I have for you. Then when that happened, did you know you were dead? Or was it just like, did you know you were dead when you were, I, I know it’s random, like you’re like, oh my God, I’m dead. I’m getting shone around. Or was it like you just woke up in this other reality, what the hell is going on? Or could you recall the moment up until, um, you know, you died from the alcohol?

Mark:
all the above. I mean, I, I knew that I was dead. I was told, you know, my grandfather Russell says, you’re going home now, mark, you know, and, and when your skin that’s black, green, and purple.

Guy:
Right? So you saw that you saw your dead body, you’re standing there next to it,

Mark:
Well, I was

Guy:
or.

Mark:
Right, right, right, right. Yeah. So, and then, um, and then, you know, you come back to life and it’s like, you know, it’s like a, a a bowl of lightning, you know, like, ’cause the amount of energy that it takes to awaken a dead body is pretty phenomenal. I mean, it’s like a, it’s like a bolt of lightning hitting, you know, it’s, it’s pretty. So, um, alright, so, so, so I passed, right? So I was 16 years old and then shortly after that, um, I was with my friends in Wisconsin, surgeon Bay, Wisconsin Door County. And um, ’cause people always ask me, well, did it make you any different? You know, did you notice difference between four? And, you know, did well it made me more psychic, you know, which is kind of as a teenager, that was kind of, it made me more psychic.

So, which was the last thing I wanted as a teenager. So we’re in Indoor County Surgeon Bay, we just got done playing baseball. I was a pretty good baseball player. And, um, I was with my friend Peter, and one morning I woke up and I went to Peter’s mom and I said, you need to call your daughter Peter’s sister and tell her not to come up. And she was like, well. They’re getting married. We’re we wanna see them? She’s bringing up her fiance. It’s like, no, you don’t understand. She can’t, she can’t be here right now. And they kind of blew it off. And then that night I was like, look, you need to call your daughter now. Tell her not to come up. Well, guy, they got pretty distraught with me.

Uh, they sent me home on the Greyhound bus the next morning back to Iowa. Uh, unfortunately, guy, their daughter was killed in a car accident on the way up. And that was the message I was trying to convey to them that if your daughter comes up here, she was going to get killed. So, uh, you know, again, I was like, screw this. I don’t want to do this. I didn’t go back to drinking, but boy, I smoked marijuana. Hash tie stick, Elia. Almost every day in a high from 16 to 18. You know, I really don’t know how I made it through high school, but I did. And around the time I was 17 or 18 years old, I was introduced. My other friend, uh, Toby, his mom, Patty Lou, introduced me to Jerry Bowman and Joel Biani.

Now, Jerry Bowman, uh, was a trance channel. He was a Vietnam vet and he channeled John John from the Bible. John the apostle, Joel Bani was an attorney out of Boston. They were doing a radio show in Los Angeles, California, the out of the Ordinary Show ca v. Now, you probably haven’t heard of GE Jerry Bowman or Joy Albiani, but many of your listeners have heard of Shirley McClain. Shirley McClain’s channel was Kevin Ryerson. Kevin Ryerson was channeling John. So Jerry Bowen would go into a trance. John would speak through him saying all these things. And then guy, after listening to John for a few times, John started talking to me like you and I are speaking now. And he would say things like, we never used the truth to be right.

We never used the truth to make others wrong. We never used the truth to score points to our ego. We never used the truth to belittle others. He would say things like the master, the ma, a master’s not a master, because he himself says so a master’s called master, because those who witnessed him say that he is master. And he’d always say The kingdom of God is within you. Why do you seek anything else? And the one that would always get me, and I still have a hard time with this one, but he would say this to anyone he was speaking to. He would say, do you really want to experience your life as anything less than the one you call Jesus? Now when you’re, you know, when you’re 18, 19 years old, there’s too many blondes, there’s too many brunettes, there’s college football, there’s Nature Boy, Rick Flair. Woo. You know, I mean, there’s a lot of distractions, especially when you’re a male and a teenager and, you know, 30 something years later, whatever, you kind of wish that you listened a little bit more.

But from about 18 to 18 to 25, John gave me a lot of information. You know, like we’re speaking now or, uh, in my dreams and the last couple years, it’s kind of made some appearances in my dreams again, a lot of things are starting to reappear in my dreams that, you know, left 20 or 30 years ago.

Guy:
why? Jesus, just you, you know why specifically Jesus. In, in, in that, first of all. First of

Mark:
well fir, well, first of all, his name wasn’t Jesus. It was Yeshua or Yahuah. Yeshua, but he was a master. You know, he, he, he re he remembered that he was God or that God was within him. And he demonstrated that to the greater ability than anyone else that we’re aware of. Doesn’t mean they were not out there, just more was written. Un unfortunately. The, the church really twisted everything in the name of, um, the masculine polarity, the ma the masculine power. Uh, they really distorted, you know, who he was and what he taught about. He, he wasn’t white. He would’ve been very, uh, olive, dark complexion and skin.

Guy:
No th Thank you. ’cause like, it’s almost like what we were speaking about at the start because, uh, Joshua or Jesus or whatever name we call him, there’s so much tied into religion and dogma and belief systems. It can be very triggering for people just saying the word, like saying the word God or, or, or whatever it might be because of that. But when you take it out of that context and actually just look at the man for a moment and his achievements, it’s

Mark:
Look at what he taught.

Guy:
You know?

Mark:
Look at what he taught. Don’t listen to the church. Listen to what he taught.

Guy:
Yeah. So with all that in mind, ’cause I find it fascinating that, um. You know, you’re born into life with these gifts and clearly there was no support mechanisms around for you to, to nurture them. And the only thing that you knew what to do was to try and shut them down, otherwise you wouldn’t feel accepted and at that young age, but then the very thing you were running from, uh, be then you get into alcohol, then you die, and then, which only then heightens your gifts. And you come back and it’s like, now you gotta deal with this too.

Do, and, and like you said, you finally started to find people around you that, that got it. But my question for you is in that, do you think, or do you feel that was part of your, your soul’s contract that you to come in and actually die and actually then come back because somehow you managed to cope with the amount that was put upon you? Which, which is, which is a

Mark:
Oh, abs. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So, um, let’s just. Jump forward in time a little bit. So in 1992, I moved to, uh, Charleston, South Carolina. And, uh, that’s when I first read the book, bringers of the Dawn by Barbara, Barbara Mars Sinc, which I mean great book. Talked about ets, uh, the matrix, the illusion, all that stuff. And at the same time, I, uh, a friend of mine gives me the Flower of Life videotapes with drum below Za Deck, which is about sacred geometry, flower of Life, Egypt, uh, uh, the Fibonacci Spiral, the fi fi ratio, on and on and on secret, uh, frequencies and things like that. And, uh, I’m a server at 82 Queen, which is a fine dining restaurant in Charleston.

And as I’m watching these videotapes, this guy comes into 82 Queen for like five or six nights in a row. Now 82 Queen is 11, 12,000 square feet. There’s 13 different dining rooms. Every night. There’s in, in season, you know, there’s 13, 14 servers on yet every night this guy ends up in my section, which is physically impossible. It’s amazing that he went into the same restaurant for five, six nights in a row. And, um, the last night that he’s there, guy, the last night that he’s there, this angelic voice comes to me and goes, mark, we need you to talk to him about the videotapes you’re watching right now. And I’m just like, we have an hour and a half, two hour wait.

I have six tables. I am in the weeds. I’m just like, no, you know, no. So they come back to me and go, no, we really need you to talk to him about the video, the videotapes you’re watching. I’m just like, no. So Guy I, I go to leave the table. I got physically pushed back by an unseen force, and they were like, no, you really need to do this. So I’m looking at the guy and I’m going, Hey, what, what am I gonna say to this guy? And finally go, um, his name, his name was Roger. I said, uh, are you a mathematics professor? Because I’m what? You know, what am I gonna ask him? Right? And uh, he looks at me and goes, mark, what did you really want to ask me? And I’m like, well, I’m watching these video tapes about the pyramids, the SPKs, the Flower of life, sacred geometry.

He goes, you have those videotapes. I have to have those videotapes. It’s like, they’re not mine, but I’ll call Rosemarie and see if I can give ’em to you. So guy I call Rosemary the next morning and say, Hey, this guy Roger, he’s adamant that, that he’s gotta have these tapes. Is it okay if I give ’em to him? And she goes, I guess so I’m done with him. Are you done with him? I went, yeah, sure. So I meet him the next day and this son Sean, who’s my age, and I give him the videotapes a few months pass. I don’t hear anything from him. I walk to work one morning and again, the angels come back to me and they go, we need you to go to your manager and you have to tell her that you need to go home. I’m like, they’re expecting me to work.

I just got here. They, they just, it’ll be okay. Just, just go talk to her. So I go up to, uh, Missy, her name is Melissa Miller. I go, Missy, hey, I’m not feeling well. Are you okay if I go home? She goes, oh yeah, we were thinking about sending someone home anyway. Today we don’t, we don’t have very many reservations. So I go home, the angels come back to me and they said, please go directly to your place. Do not stop anywhere along the way. So I go to my place, it’s a 20, 25 minute walk from 82 Queen guy. As I open the door, it’s Roger, who I gave the video tape to calling me. As I open the door, the phone rings, it’s Roger calling me from France and he says, mark, how would you like to work with Dr. Ek in person? I’m like, yeah, you absolutely, you know, where’s it at? How much does it cost? And he goes, mark, thank you for the videotapes. Everything’s been paid for. So I, I got to spend about, this is when Olo was actually doing the workshops himself, and they were, you know, 14 hour days for 10 days in a row.

And Koch Crest, North Carolina, which is real close to where I’m at now. And so I, I got that and then. The gut. So, so I gotta spend time with him. And then, um, so that was like 90, 93, I think that was 93. So a couple years later. So a couple years later. And again, I didn’t tell anyone about my narrative experience. I told two people, the girl that I was dating in Charleston, South Carolina at the time, Kirsten, and my best friend Dean, who was a chiropractor and acupuncturist, he’s still in Iowa City. Those are the only two people that knew about what happened to me that night in 1986, February of 86, didn’t tell anyone.

So 1995, I’m in Iowa, visiting for the summer guy, get a phone call at one 30 in the morning from a woman I never met, never spoke with before. I don’t know how she got my number. She calls me and answered the phone, half asleep, half awake. She described my near death experience verbatim. Verbatim everything I was told by the 30 foot beam, sacred geometry, healing through sound. She’s, she, she talked a lot about my gift through sound vocal toning that I do, and she talked about the melek priesthood. And then guy, check this out, she said that when you were a kid, you always used to dream about your bedroom closet, that you would go inside your bedroom closet to when you needed to feel loved or secured.

And, and so I, I was just blown away by it. And then, um, she says, oh, she’s like, oh, by the way, I need to tell you something else. Sure. She goes, you you’re thinking about going back to Charleston, aren’t you? I go, yeah. She goes, you’re not going there. You’re gonna go to Las Cruces, New Mexico. You have to go to undergraduate and graduate school there. No, I’m good. I don’t know anything about Las Cruces. I’m going back to Charleston. I just called the restaurant owner, Harvey Pool. Everything’s set up. I’m going back to work there. I love Charleston. I still love Charleston. she’s like, no, you’re going to, you’re going to Las Cruces. Okay. Two days later, guy, I get a phone call from Luis Vasquez. He was my childhood mentor. Haven’t heard from him in years. Again, I don’t know how he got my number. He’s like, mark, what are you doing these days?

Oh, I’m just getting ready back to Charleston. He goes, well, you know what, mark? I just took a job as the associate professor, the associate head of the psychology department at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces, New Mexico. I think you probably should come to school here. I’m just like, you’ve got to be kidding me. So, so I went, I, I ended up going to, um, undergraduate and graduate school at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces. Although I only, I went to, I, I wanna make it very clear ’cause I don’t hide anything. I, I, I made graduate school for a year. I didn’t, I never completed my master’s degree. I went for

Guy:
Why That’s wild. How did, do you ever wonder who that woman was? Did you ever speak to her again or,

Mark:
Oh yeah. No, yeah. We met, we met in the physical. She’s a real person and she said that she, her angels were told, her angels told her about me and to call me and talk to me and to, to, to do these things. And she said that we were psychically connected. I’ll just say her name was Deb and, uh. We met a couple times. We met at, uh, we went up to the Four Corners Monument. Uh, we also met up in Portland, Oregon. Um, unfortunately I have not, uh, June, July of somewhere between like June and August of 99 was the last time I’ve heard from her. I’ve, I don’t, I have no idea

Guy:
Do you know, do you know why New Mexico, like what all that was about in in terms of.

Mark:
Well, I think it had to do with Luis, uh, I, how do I say? So, from the time I was in eighth grade to the time I was in undergraduate school, I was, I was always told I was the smartest kid, but I didn’t give a crap, you know, which is true. And because when I was a sophomore at New Mexico State University, they had me do lectures in psychology. And, you know, this is why I didn’t make it through graduate school because I was upset, because I was like. You’re, you, the profe. I said, you professors are wanting me to do your research. You are wanting me to write your papers so that you can get published. You are wanting me to do all the work so that you can advance your career.

I don’t wanna advance me, you know, I don’t want to. And there was just a mutual agreement that I was not a, an ideal grad student. But I also think I, I also think that there was people that I was supposed to meet there. And I think that the, because I was kinda stubborn as a college student, and I, and I think the teachers were probably a little bit more sympathetic, especially with Luis being involved in the psychology department. And he had known me since I was probably 12 or 13 years

Guy:
yeah. Fascinated. And the, the gentleman, I can never say his name, I forget. I’ve actually seen some of his Flower of Life lectures. Um, John. Yeah. What would you say for people listening to this, ’cause you, did you do his 10 day, uh, workshop? Yeah.

Mark:
Yeah. I did the whole thing. It was like 14, 15 hours a day. It was intense.

Guy:
what were the main take home points from that? Because I started a drop into it on Gaia years ago because they put some up on there and I was like, wow, this is deep shit, man. Like, you know, he, he.

Mark:
Oh yeah. It’s, it’s deep, intense stuff. And you know, because he talks, he talks about the fall of Lucifer and Christ and you know, the, all the, you know, the weird stuff and the Anki and how they created us and they altered our genes. Well, I guess the thing is that. There is a higher intelligence that we call God. And this higher intelligence has a tremendous understanding of mathematics. That everything in life is based on the flower life symbol. Our DNA, uh, the nautical shell, uh, trees, plants, the pine cone, and, uh, everything is based on mathematics. It’s based on, uh, geometry and it’s, uh, it’s undeniable. I mean, that’s kind of the, the core of what, and then his big thing was teaching the MEbA the MEbA meditation to create countering counter rotating fields of energy to access higher dimensional realities.

Of course, if you saw the movie contact, what’d she do? Uh, Jody Foster created using ancient. Information from space, multidimensional information from space to create counter rotating fields of energy around the body to access other dimensions. What was the other movie? Stargate? The same thing. Taking ancient Egyptian knowledge, creating circular counter rotating fields of energy to go through other dimensional realities.

Guy:
Yeah. The me.

Mark:
Hollywood. Yeah. Hollywood kind of sneaks the truth in there every

Guy:
The is wild, isn’t it? I mean, I’ve had an experience where like three o’clock in the morning where I just, everything just turned on and I just became light. Like, it just

Mark:
Oh yeah.

Guy:
and I was,

Mark:
Yeah.

Guy:
it just instantly evaporated. Everything was this golden light, but I, there was a moment where I felt something. Uh, rotate, but then it was so fast it didn’t feel like rotation. It felt like vibration. If that makes sense.

Mark:
I think there’s groups of us, there’s soul families that do our meas in the dream state, and we are working, we are doing planetary grid work. We’re activating grids. Um, so I guess one of the things I want to

Guy:
Please. Yeah,

Mark:
I, I don’t, um, that, well, we, we, when we incarnate, we tend to incarnate with about 30 people. It’s called our soul family. Often it’s our, our parents. And we choose everything guy. We choose our parents where we’re gonna live. We, we choose our circumstances. Uh, Psalm 1 39, 16 says Every day, every moment, every action, every deed was recorded in your book before a single day had passed. Of course, the book is referring to the IC records.

So our lives are, are really, we, we plan all of this out. You know, you, uh. Michael Newton, who wrote Journeys of the Souls even says that our conversations are, are to, to some degree are, are, are pre, pre-planned. And the, uh, this was John Calvin, uh, predestine Presbyterians. Calvinism talked a lot about this as well too.

Guy:
It’s incredible. Yeah.

Mark:
Like, you meet when you, you meet everyone that you’re supposed to meet and everything is unfolding as it is. Um, I mean, I did a sweat lodge with the Wallace Black Elk in January of 97. That was intense. It was like, okay, you white people, you want a sweat lodge?

Guy:
Who, who, who is that? Sorry.

Mark:
you know, the, uh, Wallace Blackout is a famous native, uh, American elder. He’s written a lot. I mean, he’s got a lot of books translated through him or, uh, translated from his, from Lakota to English. Um, but Lakotas teach that your life is the way that it is because it really cannot be any other way.

Guy:
Huh? Yeah. Yeah. One question I wanna ask you. That’s like, with all those sacred geometry Flower of Life teachings and how life is created, the universe is mathematics. The RC bar field, like, like my, honestly, I’m a simpleton, right? When I start going there, my, my brain just wants to explode and it’s a lot of information, right? But then, but somehow or another, I’ve managed to get through life more through, not using my analytical brain, but just feeling into what’s right and then having these experiences, but then working backwards from the experience, because then I’m looking at information differently. ’cause I’ve already had the knowing, if that makes sense. And then I’m trying to fill in the pieces.

Mark:
right. Solow D. He doesn’t really teach the Meco anymore. He teaches living. Living from the heart. That’s his, you know, going into the heart space and activating your heart and high heart, and that’s kind of his, his focus as of late. But, uh, I think the last time I saw him was 20 16, 20 17,

Guy:
I guess the point, the, the

Mark:
We, we used to run into each other all the time in Sedona.

Guy:
He’d be a good guy to hang out with the coffee, wouldn’t he have a ya

Mark:
So I guess the, you know, there’s a lot of things I can going, but one of the things I, that, and I, I just, last month I had a profound session with a lady that does a lot of energy clearing. And, um, one of the things that came to me was to create this. And I, I am so, oh, I’m so excited about this. I’m creating this platform called Voices of Light, empowering the empath because I think so many people who are psychic, who are mediums, who are channels. Who have had near death experiences. They don’t feel safe, they don’t feel safe to be themselves, they don’t feel protected or that, you know, we’ve had lifetimes of being persecuted or, or killed for, for being psychic or for being an oracle, uh, at the Delphi, uh, or whatever it may be. Or, or were hunted down for being, um, psychic and intuitive.

And so this platform is called Voices of Light. Well, that was the name that I was kind of given, was Voices of Light, empowering the Empath. It’s gonna be an inspirational podcast. It’s gonna be a private community. Uh, then we’re gonna evolve into storytelling workshops because the most important thing for me, guy, guy, is that your story. Gets heard. You. You need to be heard. You have a voice. Your voice is meant to be heard. You don’t have to hide anymore. You don’t have to suppress who you are. You don’t have to dismiss your gifts anymore. See guy. No one benefits from you playing small. No one benefits from you being broke. No one benefits from you not being in your power.

No one benefits from you not claiming who you really are. And it’s so important for you to have a voice, to feel safe that you can share your voice. And this is what I’m doing. It’s called Voices of Light. It’s gonna be a platform, it’s gonna be a community. I will have guest speakers’ have you on the on, on the program. And it really is about people who are psychic, intuitive channels, giving themselves permission. You have to say, no matter how many guy, no matter how many times someone says no to you, refuse, refuse, refuse to say no to yourself, say yes to you. Say yes to being who you are, and that’s what I, I want to create a safe environment for people that feel they can finally share who they’re without. Fear of being shamed or ridiculed like I was

Guy:
bet, mate. That’s epic. That’s epic. Well done. No, truly like it. It’s so needed. And you know, and I think that the amount of clothes that people that are out there that have, that, there’s no one in an infrastructure to, to go, you get me. We see it all the time here in Australia, honestly. ’cause we, we, we got a hundred at our event at Wellington the other week, right, for the day and. The one thing that came through was like, oh my God, I would never have guessed him over there. Or her over there would be, would be at a, an event like this. You know? You know, and it’s so needed. I think it’s great what you’re doing, mate.

Mark:
Yeah. So yeah, the, so it’ll go, so the Voice of light program, inspirational podcast community, the, uh, writers, the workshop, the, the writers storytelling. We’ve lost our art to, to be storytellers in, in the western culture storytelling workshops. And then, uh, there’ll be voices of light for children, which is really, really needed because, you know, people don’t listen to children enough. And, and then at some point, you know, there’ll be a, a voice of light international choir. And then I like to be able to do, to go places all over the world where you have actually live events where you interact with people. But you know, I mean. I think this, this really has the potential to be huge, to be a

Guy:
I don’t doubt it when you’re launching it, mate.

Mark:
Uh, Thursday, Thursday I really have to sit down and look at some of these community platforms. Like, uh, the one that just comes to my mind, I don’t like, I don’t wanna do Facebook groups, but school, S-K-O-O-L, that’s the one that seems to really be kind of nudging. And I, I just, I’ll, I gotta see how it, how it lays out and what you can do and what you can’t do with it. You know, what, it’s, and I’m probably gonna have to go to YouTube and say, you know, what does it look like? And go, there’s a, a mind one and there’s similar ones, and kind of get, you know, what is the best alignment for what I’m trying to

Guy:
mate, last question. Question for you on, on all that. Um. And I, I no doubt, we love links and show notes for people so they can just reach out to you directly once they’ve watched this podcast and stuff like that. To find out more about that, what you do in the platform you’re building, but

Mark:
I have no what? I don’t know what I’m doing

Guy:
it’s the best place to be. Um, uh, totally. I, if I knew what I was doing, I’d be, yeah, I got no idea. I would just kind of just, just keep leaning in. That’s all I keep telling myself. Just keep leaning and exploring, you know? Um, but with all that you’ve experienced so far and where we are on the planet right now, this, this amazing time in, in our evolution, which I truly believe, like, it’s, it is just fascinating to be a part of all of this. Any last words for people, you know, a around that? What’s coming? Where we going? How we take self ownership like. Before we wrap up this podcast, is there anything you’d like to say on it?

Mark:
Well, you know, have you ever, I, I’m just, I I’m observing this. You do that a lot. Uh, that’s like a technique from quantum healing.

Guy:
No. I just, sometimes I, as energy moves, I have to gulp so I move. I’m, I’m, I pull my head away.

Mark:
That’s a, that’s a quantum, that’s from Quantum Quantum Healing Technique. Um, so. So any, so if you, if you ever watch like American Idol or, um, the voice, they tell people, the people that win, I, I dunno, maybe they’re rigged, maybe they’re, I, I don’t know. But they tell contestants over and over again, you have to take ownership of your gifts. You have to embrace your gifts. You have to give yourself permission to be you. There is nothing frigging wrong with you. You have done nothing wrong. It’s not your fault. Society, the conditions, the programs, they’re all boo, You have to believe in yourself. Self-belief, oh my God, God, I wish I had the comments that I do now back in my twenties.

You know, it’s like, but it, I mean, it took me that long to get there, but. You really have to believe in yourself. But the most important thing is God, whatever you think God is, that being that compassion, that forgiveness, that love is within you right now. Today it’s right here. There is no out there. There’s no external thing that’s going to save you. The ETS are not coming down to save you. it. You are. You are. That you are the way you are. I am that I am. And that’s where the magic’s at, the magic’s within the power and presence is within. And I’ve done, you go to my website, I’ve done past life regressions for 30 some years, and there’s not a more powerful tool to really get to the core of your traumas and issues.

And you know, if you feel drawn to that. Please reach out to me and we can, you know, set up an appointment with you. But believe in yourself. You are that child of God in whom it is most pleased. Be stop dismissing things. Stop dismissing what you know. Stop dismissing what you see. It’s okay to be powerful. It is okay to outshine other people. It’s okay to let your light be bright.

Guy:
So I hear once, don’t let uh, anyone dim your a light. Uh, I can’t remember who said that, but some, some of it around those. Absolutely. Um, what, what website? Can you just say it out loud, max, so people know where they can go?

Mark:
yeah, sure. Uh, my website is Mark. A P-A-T-T-E-R-S-O-N. That’s Mark, MARK dash Patterson, P-A-T-T-E-R-S-O n.com. If you don’t put the dash in, you’ll get a famous jeweler in New York City.

Guy:
I love it. Mark, look what a conversation mate. Thanks so much for coming on back on the shows.

Mark:
Oh, you’re welcome. I’m glad we got it to work

Guy:
1000% mate. Yeah, brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I really appreciate it. Um, yeah, it’s gonna get a quite a response I reckon.

Mark:
Okay. All right. Go at peace and do your best. You are loved. Be love. Be

Guy:
Thanks, legend.