#236 We are a universe of possibilities waiting to be explored; quantum energetic beings. We are also consciousness itself, capable of altered states of being that bring divine wisdom and insight, so often forgotten in this human form. The Quantum Consciousness experience is one that takes us through the human portal into ever expanding realms of consciousness and a state of remembering, as we embrace our expanded state of being.
And in this mind-blowing episode, I bring on the author of “Quantum Consciousness: Journey through other realms” and the creator of the Quantum Consciousness Experience, Peter Smith. Peter is the former president of The Michael Newton Institute for Life Between Lives, founder of the Institute for Quantum Consciousness, and the creator of the Hypnoenergetics® modality.
Peter and I start off by discussing his work examining stories of past lives through hypnotherapy, and whether there are alternate realities where we can lead entirely different lives and learn different lessons. We discuss the expanded states of awareness in the world of quantum realities beyond your imagination.
He shares his insights on how quantum consciousness can raise your vibe and the purpose of the soul’s journey. Make yourself comfy, as we take you on a journey of re-discovery of the magnificence of your soul, exploring the mysteries of Quantum Consciousness, the very fabric of Creation.
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About Peter: Peter Smith is the author of “Quantum Consciousness: Journey through other realms” and the creator of the Quantum Consciousness Experience. He is a Founder of the Institute for Quantum Consciousness and has trained and accredited a network of QC Facilitators who continue to expand the research base of this remarkable field of work.
He previously created the Hypnoenergetics® modality, blending Hypnotherapy, Energy and Consciousness into a series of therapeutic techniques that have been life changing for many. He trained a network of therapists across Australia and New Zealand and his first book “Hypnoenergetics: The Four Dimensions” has reached audiences around the world.
Peter has always been inspired by his work at The Michael Newton Institute for Life Between Lives Hypnotherapy (TNI). He was President of the Institute from 2009 till 2018, when he was asked to take on the role of Director of the Newton Legacy, a role created to uphold the philosophy and integrity of Michael Newton’s life’s work. Peter was awarded the Peggy Newton award for outstanding service to TNI in 2013 and has trained LBL Practitioners and Teachers in different parts of the world since 2006. He speaks regularly at various conferences, on radio programs and has participated in a number of documentaries both in Australia and overseas.
Peter’s previous background was as an executive in the Australian Banking Industry. He served for over two decades with one of Australia’s leading Banks, before starting his own Change Management consultancy focussing on values driven organisational transformations across Australia, Asia and the United Kingdom.
Peter undertook post graduate studies at the Australian Graduate School of Management at the University of NSW, studied different forms of Hypnotherapy in Australia and the USA and is the winner of the Peggy Newton Award for outstanding service to The Newton Institute. He has published a number of articles on Consciousness and has written for Nexus Magazine, The Llewellyn Publishing Journal, Psychic News UK and has a regular column in The Newton Institute Research Journal. He is also a co-author of “Memories of the Afterlife”, the final book in the best selling Life Between Lives quadrilogy.
Key Points Discussed:
- Life Between Lives & Quantum Consciousness (00:00)
- Serving humanity as a consciousness facilitator and researcher (01:02)
- Why we as humans are blind to the power of consciousness (04:27)
- Climbing the wrong mountain in life: Peter’s transformation journey (06:57)
- Lessons from the discovery that our past lives affect our present (10:14)
- Understanding that you have a life between lives (15:12)
- How looking at death as a myth will totally change your life (20:35)
- Your Soul’s Journey from a quantum consciousness perspective (24:05)
- Seeing his other self have a heart attack in a train and other experiences where he’s engaged with different versions of himself. (30:59)
- Reincarnation and the phenomena of the body holding trauma that can’t be found through physical tests (36:39)
- When you heal yourself you also heal humanity (44:19)
- Embracing how magnificent you are and reaching for that magnificence. (51:13)
Mentioned in this episode:
- Quantum Consciousness By Peter Smith
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Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate.
Beautiful. We are recording. Pete, welcome to the podcast.
Hi, Guy. It’s great to be here.
I am astounded that only now you’re coming on my podcast after 230 odd episodes and your name has been popping up here and there, Pete, as, um, over the years and I’ve been slowly looking into your work more and more and I really dive deep this last week. And there are so many directions that I think this conversation could go, go in very quickly. And the array of work you cover is incredible. So first of all, I just wanna give a big heart, uh, thank you for being on the show today.
Oh, it’s great to be here, Guy. I love for a chance to talk about what we do, help people understand more of who they are. That’s what this is all about.
Absolutely. Now, I have to ask you, and I’m sure you get asked this, but if a stranger on the street asked you what you did for a living, how would you respond?
You know, I always pause. I had to fill in a, a sheet at a new acupuncturist the other day and it said profession. And I said, Well, I don’t really have a profession, I just, just have a life. And you know, it’s about how you choose to spend that life and then express that to others and help them step into their lives. So I guess if I get pushed to try and put something on that, it ends up being something like consciousness facilitator or researcher, I suppose I’d end up in that space now, but it changes every few years.
Hmm. What is then consciousness? Because it’s a big topic at first. Thoughts, you kind of go, Oh, well that’s me. I’m just conscious and I’m aware and I’m experience life. But as you start to dig in deeper there, and I’ve had many scientists on the podcast, and I’d love to hear your view of what you believe consciousness is, especially because you have the term as well, quantum consciousness. And uh, maybe that’s a great place to start.
Okay, well let me give a general definition of consciousness and then perhaps I can offer guy why I brought the two together. So I have to go back Perfect. One step and talk about the universe, first of all. And, and to keep it really simple for something that’s very limitless. You know, I see the whole universe as an infrastructure of energy.
It’s like this big grid of energy that contains all areas. And I see consciousness as what brings that to life. It’s the, the lifeblood of the universe in every way. And there’s a third level of that, which is our awareness. And where we take our awareness is where we are in that moment at the like, just for now, I’m, my awareness is with Pete, your awareness awarenesses with guy, but that’s not who we really are. That’s a disguise for a greater consciousness that is experiencing the universe through us. So my, my first definition is consciousness is the lifeblood of the universe, the, the part that allows us to experience these infrastructure of energy by taking our awareness to those different places. But let me talk about quantum consciousness. For me, quantum physics is the science of possibility. They’re talking about, you know, uh, different dimensions. In string theory, they’re talking about other alternate realities in the many world’s interpretation. It’s like they, they understand the multidimensional nature of existence in quantum physics, even though not all of those guys agree. That’s part of a byproduct of the limitlessness of the universe that nobody necessarily agrees with everybody else cuz no one’s got the whole picture. So quantum, quantum physics is the science of possibility and consciousness is the lifeblood of the universe. You put the two together and you get quantum consciousness, which is a universe of possibility of which we are apart.
Right. So then my question is, and I’ve always pondered on this, and again, I ask other people as well, it’s just where I’m feeling is why aren’t we as humans naturally aware of these things if, if we are part of that? You know, like when you look out to the world, you see a lot of struggle, you see a lot of suffering, a lot of opinions, a lot of division. And you think, wow, when you start to experience and look into consciousness and look into the, the, like you say, the quantum aspect of it as well, and you start to see non division and see how we’re connected and there’s more to life and like, why do we know as a human?
I sense there’s a few reasons for that. And, and one of them guy is that we learn more from moving into an unremembered to a remembered state when we have that incredible insight that helps us understand in detail what our magnificence is. It’s like, uh, if you’re, pardon the pun, a quantum leap in our awareness, we go from being asleep to being awake. And when you have a shift like that, it is so monumental that then echoes into the all areas and brings an even greater level of wisdom. So that’s, that’s my first response. My second is that our magnificence has been hidden from us. Guy, you know, no one has told us that we are these incredibly incredible multidimensional beings pretending to be human. And if we knew exactly who we were and what our magnificence was, then the whole world would change overnight.
And that wouldn’t suit a lot of the powers that be out there because, you know, um, sometimes we are driven in a certain direction through our lack of awareness that suits the needs of others. Um, without getting into too much of that. So I believe that at a third level, that all civilizations in the universe go through an awakening stage before they understand their place in the greater universe and where they belong. And I believe there’s many advanced races out there in the universe. I think it’s our turn to wake up and our turn to join them, but we just have to reach a critical mass here on earth for us to understand that we’re more than just this flesh and blood thing we see in the mirror every morning.
Hmm. And what about yourself, Pete? Was there a moment where you can distinctively remember that transition <laugh> or, or have you always been open to all of this?
Well, I had some interesting experiences as a kid, as I guess a lot of your listeners do, guy. But for me, I mean, I, I started a career in, in banking and moved through, um, and I spent 20 years, over 20 years, one of Australia’s leading banks. And I was in senior ranks and, and all of that. And I had a wonderful corporate career going. And I looked around one day and I thought, I’ve climbed the wrong mountain. I mean, you know, ambition is a hollow type of, um, concept when it’s compared to a life of fulfillment and purpose. And I found that, you know, and, and this was, you know, I was getting to the, in, well into my thirties at this stage. Um, I’m 58 now, but when I started my thirties, I was a part-time hypnotherapist on weekends and I was a banking executive during the week and those two worlds just did not meet.
And you know, I dunno if anyone’s familiar with the banking system, but it’s all about numbers and money and profit and shareholder price. And it was, it was driving me nuts and it just was the wrong energy for me. So gradually I just fell out of the banking arena, started my career as a hypnotherapist, moved through, taught a lot of that. And every time I follow this trail, breadcrumbs guy, these coincidences, these um, markers if you like, when you trust and surrender to them, they just take you on a journey that is far more magnificent than anything the old life can offer.
Right. And then, cuz you, I believe you studied under Michael Newton as well, if I’m not mistaken. Is that, is that correct?
Yeah, yeah. I, um, interestingly, I, um, it was some of my banking background came back to, um, to help me with that when I first started to learn the life between lives work. And I actually contacted Michael when there was some things happening at the institute and you know, we ended up working together and we put in place a different structure, ended up running his organization for 10 years globally. Uh, he was an incredible man with his life between life’s work and, um, I know that you’ve had that on the, on the program before, but, um, he was a trailblazer and he showed us that we don’t have to pass over to understand the intricacies of the spiritual room and where we truly belong. So to work alongside him for many years before he passed, uh, six years ago, uh, six years ago today actually today’s the anniversary of his passing. So, um, he was, um, he was a guy that changed, um, the after death experienced hypnotherapy, spiritual hypnotherapy. I think in times to come guy, he’ll be remembered far more widely than what he is now.
Wow. I know there was, um, it’s, it’s because he was on a fascinating journey, wasn’t it? Because he kind of discovered that there was a, a life between lives. Like I find that whole concept fascinating. Feel free to talk about it a little bit, even though we’ve covered it before. There’s so many podcast episodes on you, people get lost anyway, you know, um, yeah. But I’d love you to speak to that a little bit about how, how he discovered it and, and then what your key fascinations of why were you attracted to then that work as well, in particular?
Well, Michael was a traditional psychologist working around in California, around the Hollywood area where he had his, uh, his clinic for many years. And he was always driven by something that was behind the veil. There was something just out of reach that he couldn’t quite get. And he told me about a time when he was about 15 years old and he was in, he went to a, like a military high school and he was in a, in the chapel and they’re doing all of the religious type doctrine and, and all of that. And, and he was there and he said, This can’t be it. There’s gotta be more to this than, than just this religious practice. And, you know, he was 15 at the time as he moved through. And he, and he was fueled by psychology, wanting to know more about the human mind.
He was so inquisitive. He started his clinic. And then one day a guy came in with a psychosomatic pain. Um, I think most people know that a psychosomatic pain is one that presents physically in the body, but they can’t find any particular physical reason for it when they do all of the different checks or tests or whatever they do. So, um, there’s a technique that we use as hypnotherapist, and he, he was a hypnotherapist as well. We, we go into that pain and we ask it to take back to its source. It’s called an affect bridge. So he did this and all of a sudden this guy’s riving around on the bottom of a trench in World War I in the battle of the Psalm. So Michael thought this was all crap at this stage, of course, because he’d never seen anything like it. So he’s, he’s asking this guy, this guy’s riving in pain, and he’s saying, Well, what battalion are you from and who’s your commanding officer?
And tell me about the movements of troops in your region. You know, So he’s asking all of these questions anyway, so then he desensitized the pain and brought the guy back and the pain was gone. Uh, but that was Michael’s approach as a researcher. So then he wrote to the war office in London, and he validated this guy’s story, uh, from the British Army records. And it all, it all ticked off every piece of information that he got. So then he started to explore a little bit further. He got into the past lives, and then he had a lady who came in with depression again. He went into, where’s the source of this? And she flipped into the afterlife, uh, in the company of her soul group. And they were, all of her friends were there. And her loneliness disappeared because she realized she’d incarnated without them for this time so that she could understand more about, you know, being alone.
So that’s when he discovered the in between, over a period of 7,000 clients, 35 years, he perfected these approaches where we take somebody into their past lifetime, but then keep going beyond the concept of reincarnation back into the spiritual realm and understand why you’ve chosen this life, what your purpose for being here is, what are the patterns across the lineage of your soul? Who are the people that you incarnate with regularly? So this whole methodology of life between lives started to emerge. And the Newton Institute was founded in 2002, 20 years ago now. And, um, we’ve now spread to, you know, um, 40 different countries, I think at last count, uh, 200 and something highly specialized people. We’ve just run a big, uh, training with, uh, some trainee therapists from China and Asia. So we’re moving into different languages now. So my attraction to that work was, I’d, I’d actually graduated as a hip therapist and I went into Borders bookshop, got rest at the soul, and, um, you know, stood there in borders and said, Ch close my eyes in front of the metaphysical book section.
Take me to the book I need today. So I stepped up to a bookshelf and I pulled this book off the shelf. It was Journey of Souls, Michael’s first book. I read the back of it and something shifted inside of me. It’s like something opened up. It’s like one of those moments in life where something just arrives in your presence and you don’t quite understand it. It felt a bit like an earth tremor, but I looked around the shop and no one else was, um, having the same experience. So I thought this book must be special. Cause I was looking for a book for a gift for somebody else, but realized that the book was really for me. So from there, read the book, read the next one, or read the next one. Ended up in America, ended up working with Michael, and the rest of it is history.
Wow, incredible. And what have you seen? Cause I, and there’s always a part of me, even, even after the experiences I’ve had, is like, wow, is that re like, really? Wow. You know, and, and I know no doubt people listening can certainly be skeptical that there’s this, this other aspect to it. I mean, how real are the people’s experiences that you’ve worked with that go and have this, this experience in between lives? You know, especially if, how, how does it happen and to, to people expand beyond themselves, different aspects of their consciousness. How would you describe it all as well?
Maybe to give an example would be a good one, but, but also, let me give some context. First, a client comes in for one of these sessions that may go for something like four hours and there’s various preparation that’s happened along the way, including most likely a past life regression, to make sure that we can get that person out of the current incarnation and access another. So then we’ll take them through, uh, the, the Newton methodology at, as it’s come to be known, we go back through some childhood experiences, back into pre-birth condition where we activate more of the, what we’ve come to call a super conscious mind, Michael’s term that is beyond, you know, um, this state of consciousness or even the subconscious. So we activate that super conscious mind, we go into a past life. Uh, we get to the end of that past life crossover.
Now, every time the client goes through one of these particular, um, aspects, their personality changes, like you might have a, a woman who becomes a man in a past life and they’ll speak with more male tones and mannerisms when they go across into the afterlife. And we have them there as, uh, the immortal presence that is then, that is beyond any human form, beyond any other incarnation as well. There is a, a depth and a wisdom to them that turns the tables on us. And, and we just follow them, you know, they really guide and, and, um, direct the session. And sometimes we become quite the passenger. Um, and here’s the example. Uh, I said to one lady, Why didn’t her name let’s, I’ll just give her a name of say Fiona. I’ll say, Why did you incarnate as Fiona? And this soul will said to me, I’m a researcher and I’m here to research the human condition and I specialize in brain activity.
So the best way for me to research was to incarnate and have a human brain. And I said, Okay, um, thank you. And she says, she says to me, Do you have any questions? Cuz she’s the researcher, she’s got a lot of answers. And I said to her, Well, can you tell me why we only use 15% of our brain or 20% of our brain? And she said, Who told you that? And I said, Well, that’s some of the, um, information that’s come from our neuroscientists. I mean, this is all a bit old now, this is probably 15 years ago. We’re more up to date now. But she says, uh, she says, Well, that’s just wrong. She says, You just haven’t invented the equipment that can measure what the brain’s actually doing.
And of course, there I was in the arrogance of the human conditions sort of saying that our science has got the answers when of course we don’t. Um, but interestingly, you know, if you look, look at neural activity now, the way that it’s measured, you know, 15 years later, um, it’s actually proved her to be correct because the brain is doing so much more. You know, the heart math institute are telling us that the brain receives messages from the heart, so there’s so much more going on there. So she was completely right. But that’s the, that’s the presence that you have in these people when they’re in their super conscious state guy, when they’re in their soul, they have so much to offer.
Wow. And let’s take Fiona for instance. Would she then recall herself saying these things? Or does she come out and the session’s been recorded and you can say, Oh no, this is, this is what happened. What gen, what generally happens there?
It’s, it’s like anything with human memory guy. I can go to the, the supermarket in town and I can remember every aisle I went down and, and what I bought. But by the time I get home I’ve forgotten some of that and I’m just hoping I’ve got all the right groceries in my bag. So when they first come out of it, you know, when they first come out of it, it’s, um, it’s quite fresh, but then it starts to fade. They, they will remember the main points, but we always do a recording for them. Uh, I once had a client who used to listen to his recording of his session every year on the anniversary. Uh, and he used to ring me up or send me an email every year. He’d say, There’s something on that recording this year that wasn’t there last year. And it was just because he was given this information in a timeless way and he was just ready to receive the, the next message that came. So, um, you know, when we’ve got that super conscious recall, integrating it into human form, uh, is sometimes difficult. So that recording can be worth its weight and goal.
Yeah. Beautiful. Why would somebody then come and do this? Like, what do you, you think is the number one benefit from actually going straight down beyond their life? Because quite often we think, well, you know, we think about this lifetime <laugh>, you know, and everything that’s happening. Like,
Yeah, well, let me cover that from a couple of directions. One more, one mostly practical. When you understand that death is a myth, your fear of death dissolves. Now, if you could give anybody on this planet a gift, it would be that to tell ’em that they have absolutely nothing to worry about. That there is life after death and we are all going back to the spiritual realm where we came from originally. And you’ll have a welcome home like you wouldn’t believe. Now, I believe that’s the first gift of this work.
The second gift is to bring completely into your conscious awareness that uh, you are here for a reason. You chose to be here, you chose these bodies, you know, our, uh, disguise if you like. We chose these disguises because they very much suit, um, the purpose for which we came here. So, um, you know, when you think about that, your soul chose you ahead of seven or Nelly, 8 billion people on this planet. Now, if that doesn’t make you special, nothing. Well, so, you know, they used to have that old phrase, you’re, you are one in a million, but you’re actually one in 8 billion out of the soul that has selected you for this particular lifetime. And that’s a beautiful, beautiful thing such as the unconditional love our souls have for us in human form. So for us to not have to worry about death, for us to know that we are here for an absolute reason that has been planned with a divine energy and you know, we’re here to make a difference.
Um, one of the big shifts in this work as well, guy, and this may resonate for you with the work that you are doing as well, is that, um, a lot of us have chosen to be here in these times when humanity’s awakening and we are taking hu all of us into a whole new level of consciousness. Um, it’s only a few hundred years ago, we might have been burned at the stake for a conversation like this one. So, you know, times are, um, times are changing and we are here to be in the changing times and to usher in a new consciousness for the planet.
Yeah, no, thank you for sharing it. It’s interesting. I I I’ve never felt such a strong pull to be doing what I’m doing in my entire life, you know, and, and it, and it’s, it’s always been there, but I think from leaning into this work more and more over the years, it’s, it’s really allowed that to blossom and to, and when you speak about the fear of death and things, and from my own experiences, that’s definitely been a huge component for me that’s been stripped away. And when that fear is removed, you are in compassion, you’re in love, you’re, you’re in more peace. Peace is probably the big one as well. And it just change changes the trajectory, it changes the game, it changes the choices you make and, um, and it becomes a different, um, yeah, you just see things from a different perspective, which is incredible To lead on from that then, um, digging into the soul, how would you describe the soul? And there’s a few more questions I wanna ask on it, but I, I just thought I’d start with that regarding it because I’m, I’m curious to, um, yeah, find out some perspectives, especially from the work you do.
Let me throw a bit of quantum at this as well, cause that’ll be helpful as an analogy. Now, there was this big conversation in the early to mid 19 hundreds about particle physics, uh, physics versus the, you know, the multidimensional nature. And, um, a guy called Bo Neil’s Bo, he was the one that was very much driving that everything is in its possibilities until a collapse of the wave function and we see something. So he saw everything as a cloud of possibilities, whereas somebody like Einstein was more driven by what we see is, is what it is. And even though it’s limitless and got all wonderful potential, when we see something, um, that is reality. So these two guys things, these two guys were very much at odds for decades. But the interesting part of that is they were both right because, uh, quantum physics is exists as subatomic particles that move in waves.
So the wave of possibility and the particles that we see are actually part of the same landscape. You know, I’m sure somebody on your show at some stage has talked about the double sl experiment and all that sort of stuff about waves and particles. So if we take that as something that is known from the realms of quantum physics, uh, quantum mechanics, that type of science, whatever you want to refer to it, that’s been a conversation that’s really old now. But us, we are both a particle and a wave. We are part, we are a particle of consciousness in the wave of humanity. So if you wanna talk about what the soul is, we are, we are the, uh, a wave of, of souls, but we are individual and unique particles at exactly the same time. Now, what that offers us is that offers us a different view of reality.
And I think it was roomy that said, we are both the drop in the ocean and we are the ocean itself, or something along those lines. So awakening happens when the drop realizes it’s the ocean and no longer sees itself as the drop. Now when a soul goes home, it goes back to the ocean. But while we are here, we’re like the drop, but the awakening is about understanding. And we can do it while we’re in human form. We can understand that we are both the particle and we are the wave. And for me, that’s the beautiful duality of our existence, that we are all connected. Everything is quantumly entangled, we’re all part of this oneness. Plus we have the opportunity to, um, invoke our own free will and our own personal journey as part of this greater awakening that we’re all part of.
Hmm. To go bit deeper down the rabbit hole, I might as well go there. Um, sure. Cause these are things I ponder on and I wonder is then with the soul and me having the human experience, are there multiple mes happening at the same time, send back information to, to the larger part of myself having all different choice points and different experiences? Or is it just me, the soul that’s connected to the vastness of consciousness?
Well, my take is that as souls, we don’t have the boundaries. Like, you know, we, we see human being and we know where the skin finishes and the air starts. But for me, souls don’t have that clear definition and we blend into the universe itself. And I’ve had people have incredible out of body experiences, particularly with the quantum consciousness work, where they’ve just sat in the all their ears and the look of bliss on their face when they’re, they’re out there and connected to everything is just the most beautiful thing to witness. So while we’re in our bodies, we are restricted. But when we move into our, our soul essence, our broadness, it’s like we blur ourselves into the landscape of reality. And things go a little bit differently with, um, with souls because they’re limitless. And the theory of the multiverse, which came out in about 1957, I think from memory, um, when, um, somebody wrote a PhD paper that was, you know, well received, that became the many world’s interpretation that as we make a decision, a FreeWheel decision, we branch off into different realities.
And that the multiverse is continuing to unfold with every decision that we take. You know, we put a a an experience together years ago because I thought that, well, if that’s the case, then I must be quantumly entangled with all the other versions of me that went in all the other directions, because we came from the same source of sub atomic particles and subatomic particles form relationships that are then, um, exhibited as quantum entanglement. So we could call in these other versions of ourselves and have conversations and, you know, I wanna see the me that stayed in banking. And that’s an, that’s an interesting one because I once connected with that guy and watched him have a heart attack on a train and pass away from a, um, an aneurysm in his head. And like his whole body just gave way in one big physical event that he had on a train on the way to work because he neglected his purpose and it broke his heart literally. And I observed this guy and people working on him and, you know, trying to revive him and all that, but he was gone.
So if ever there was a reason to follow you, the path of your purpose, there’s one right there. So what we often do with people, we say, Well, there must be another version about you who’ve solved this problem or can offer advice on this, whatever it might be, move outside time and space because we are quantumly entangled. We move people outside of time and space. We can have a conversation with another version of ourselves. Now that’s other versions of Guy or Pete or whoever’s listening, you know, there’s other versions of you out there in the multiverse ready to be accessed because you’re quantumly entangled with them. So long answer to the question, but yeah, there’s many of us out there and my experience is that they’re, they’re accessible and they wanna help.
That’s amazing answer. No, thank you for sharing. I I didn’t expect you to say that as well. And I gotta ask you, and I’m, and I’m always thinking about the listeners as well at the same time. Sure. And when, when you had that experience of seeing your other self have the heart attack on the train, are you, is like,
Does it feel like a dream? Does it feel as real as this? Does it feel more like a feeling when you, when you go to those places, because it’s all subjective then, isn’t it? You know, people could say, Ah, yeah, but whatever. Like, what are those experiences like for you?
I’ve had, for anyone who’s had meditative experience or have done some work under hypnosis, hypnotic regression, any of that sort of stuff, it’s, it’s in that realm of type of experience. It’s not like I’m poking myself in the shoulder on the train and trying to wake this poor bloke up who’s crashed. It’s, it’s like, um, my, remember I talked about the infrastructure of energy, of the all areas, consciousness being the life blood of it, our awareness moving to different points. It’s like the awareness moves to that point where that is able to be observed.
Okay. So, um, it comes through as it’s, it’s, it’s not imagination, it’s not a dream-like state. It’s a sense of knowing and letting a story unfold in this big tapestry that is the, all that is. It’s like we’ve visited another thread in that tapestry and that thread has something that we need to see. Now, the interesting part about that guy with this work is that once you start to do it more regularly, these portals start to open themselves. And if I can fold off into another story, um, there was a time when I started to do this research and uh, I had a clinic in Melbourne in those days before I sort of went bush up in our part of the world. So, um, that clinic got sold to, um, uh, a dermatologist. Uh, he wanted to, you know, bring a very much a medical vibe to the clinic.
Um, so me and the other practitioners there, he tripled our rents and all of that. So anyway, that was just business. Um, and it was his place then. So I left and I wanted to take a room for a couple of days a week somewhere else, um, because I was doing the research behind the, the book and this other work that we were emerging with the quantum consciousness work. So, um, I went to do an interview at a another clinic that wasn’t far from me in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. Uh, lovely spot, met the owner, I was gonna share rooms with a psychologist. Um, he wanted three days a week. Um, so they had a vacancy for two days a week, which was all that I wanted. So I sat there and, and we’re in these, these, uh, nice rooms would’ve been, you know, pretty good to, for me to work from. And she said, Do you wanna take the room? And this voice in my head said no. Like, no.
I went, Okay, I dunno what that’s about. So then she, she said again, cuz she didn’t think I heard her, so she repeated her question, Do you wanna take the room? And I went to say yes. And the voice came again and said, No. And I said, I’ll get back to you. So we left, I had my partner with me, um, because we do this, some of this work together. And I said to her, What was that voice in the room? And she said, What voice? And I thought, okay, I’ve finally cracked this is, this is, uh, me having strange experiences, uh, but it’s gone to another level. So I said, No, there’s something, there’s something in the landscape here we’ve gotta gotta find out. And, and because she’s trained in this work as well, Melina took me into a state, we went home. And so I con I got into contact with the voice and a version of me stepped forward. Uh, my 60 year old at the time I was 50. So, um, he said, Don’t take the room and he’s right here in my awareness. Don’t take the room, said how come? And he said, If you take the room, there’s gonna be a bad experience with a client that’s there. She’s a very powerful person, She’s a friend of the owner of the clinic. Um, she has some mental health issues, uh, and she’ll send them all in your direction and she’ll set out to destroy you and the world will never see this work.
I said, Okay, I won’t take the room. So, um, I didn’t take that room. And interestingly, I had a dream about a guy the next night, uh, and I rang him up and he had a room available, just a guy that I knew who was a podiatrist. I looked him up and, and he had a room that was around the corner from my album. So it’s like when you listen to the universe, the universe guides you and sends you in various directions that you need to go. But when we start to live multidimensionally, we can get some of these messages that come through from other versions of ourselves, but we’ve gotta stop and we’ve gotta listen guy. That’s the, that’s the secret.
Yeah. It really starts there, doesn’t it? To, to slow down and start bringing our awareness back cuz it is so externally focused and noisy and stressful and we got 1,000,001 things to keep us ever looking in, you know, And even when we start for the first time, it can feel horrific because our nervous system is so fried from all the information is getting all the time from the external world, you know? Absolutely. It’s quite remarkable. Mm, wow. The mind boggles when you think about these things. There’s so many things that you’ve just mentioned that I’m like,
Should I dig in there or dig in there? Because we’ve covered life between life, we covered start of being what it means, a multidimensional being and removing the fear of death. And I’m curious as well to, to kind of bring it back a little bit then into the body and physicality. And you talked about, you know, the phenomena of the body holding trauma that, um, it can’t be physically found, but there’s a no, there’s a pain like Michael Newton spoke about the the gentleman in, in the war, you know, with his shoulder. Are you, so from your experiences and are you saying that if we are experiencing reincarnate every single time and having this experience now and we, we’ve got the history of other lives that we can be bringing those traumas through and it’s being held now in this timeline and has it been held in the body or has it been held in the field or has it been held in both?
You know, um, I don’t believe that consciousness is in the brain. I believe it’s in the field. And um, there’s been different experiments made over the years around all of that. And I was listening to Bruce Lipton a while back and he was quoting somebody else, and I can’t remember where this comes from, but it’s a great analogy. You know, looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking inside the radio for the announcer. You know, I feel that um, the brain is more of a receiver than a sender. And I believe the brain is an antenna that works with the universe. I believe our heart is as well. And you know, we are interacting with the universe in ways that we don’t understand all the time. So if you look at what we are truly connected with, we are quantumly entangled with all of the other realities through the lineage of our soul.
We have access to all of our other lifetimes where we have and are and will be in bodies. And if we move outside of time and space past lives actually become parallel lives. You know, when I, when I started as a past life therapist a long time ago, and you know, some guy went to a life as a Roman gladiator and he’s describing what it’s like to be on the floor of the Colosseum while someone drives a sword into his chest. I mean, he’s not looking back 2000 years and saying, you know, oh yeah, I remember 2000 years ago when someone drove a sword into my chest in the collosseum. He’s describing it then and there, um, you know, somebody running through the forest as a herbalist trying to get away from the soldiers, they’re describing it to you like they are still there. And that’s because they are, because time’s an illusion.
Anyway, that’s another rabbit hole. But what we hold in our bodies is what we hold in our bodies is the, what I call quantum echoes into all of the other aspects in which our consciousness resides alternate realities, parallel lives, interdimensional consciousness. Because let’s face it, there’s a limitless number of planets out there. I mean, why would you ever, ever only ever incarnate on one planet? So off world lives are really starting to come through in a lot of the client sessions. But then beyond that, if you look at the, that’s one lineage, that’s your sole lineage where all of that is available, plus the portal that is you in the here and now, but then there’s the ancestral lines guide and we are quantumly entangled with the generations that we come from and everyone talks about DNA and how intergenerational trauma comes through and all of that.
But if we stop and look at the numbers on that for a moment, we’ve got two parents, four grandparents, you know, eight great grandparents. This is just direct lines, okay? If we just go back parent by parent by parent, by the time we go back just a few hundred years, we have up to a million grandparents that we are descended from down through those lines cuz everything doubles on the way back. So every generation you go back and a new generation used to turn up about every 20 to 25 years in the old days, you know, you go back and you go back and you go back and those numbers go into the millions by the time you get to about 600 years. So we are carrying the collective consciousness of humanity in our energy field. We are part of the collective consciousness. So, you know, Carl Young had that theory of the collective unconsciousness. He used to dip in and out of it with archetypes to find the information that he needed. But you know, this incredible repository of wisdom, this is the collective unconscious. We are the library card to that library because we’re part of it. We’re a member of the collective unconscious or the collective consciousness of humanity. So why shouldn’t we go there looking for all the stuff that we need as well? And you might even find that your soul lineage and your ancestral lineage might even cross over at some stage of all of that journey.
Wow. So if we are the library card with, and we’re holding all like, like the mindset, my, my mindset not spinning out when I think of how much information that could be holding then going back through all the lineage, ancestral lineage and your soul lineage and multidimensional universe, like it’s, it’s nuts. Then do, do we need to carry the burdens of that if there are burdens or pains from that? Or, or do we, can we, do we reset them? Do we just allow them, do we let them go? Do we take the wisdom from them? Like what do we do with all that? Cause it can feel like a lot of weight as well, <laugh>.
Yeah, oh absolutely. To
Become aware of it
And, and we don’t have to carry everything as trauma. We carry great courage, resilience, you know, generosity, gratitude, all of these different, We are a a mix of all of these things and our challenge for every lifetime is be the best that we can possibly be with all of these different energies that we carry. But what I’m finding at the moment in a lot of um, cases that I’m, I’m taking on and I’m seeing this and I’m teaching this to some students as well who are starting to do what we call, um, intergenerational resonance.
What they’re finding in their clients is that people are incarnating deliberately into certain family lines to stop the intergenerational trauma. And they’re saying I had to incarnate into that family so that I could bring a difference to the way in which the, um, the family energy is transferred from generation to generation and they undertake some sort of intergenerational healing or a resonance, intergenerational resonance, whatever it might be. And they set the, set the ancestors free from what they might have been carrying for generations. Sometimes we’ll have six or seven generations come forward. But what that does is because everything’s outside of time and space, we’re actually cleaning up the collective unconsciousness of humanity and our whole historical imprint across time and space. Now as that repository of the collective raises its vibration through the release of intergenerational trauma that gets humanity ready to move into a new level of consciousness because it no longer carries the burdens of the past.
Wow. So by healing yourself, you’re healing humanity.
Yeah, absolutely. And, and let me, let me go further if I may, you know, because I mean, you know as well as I do guy that we live in shifting times, we are here to accelerate the consciousness of humanity so that we can move into a new level of consciousness and take our place in the universe, our rightful place that is waiting for us. In order for us to do this, we need to raise the vibration of our collective. And that can be done in two ways. A lot of people are here and they are going into maybe a life between live state or something like that. And they are releasing, uh, patterns out of the lineage of their solid have been holding them back across 5, 10, 15 lives. But when you go in between, you have the horizontal access to the whole lineage of your soul.
Cause past lives happen in linear time supposedly. But when you’re in between those, then you have that horizontal view across the whole lineage of the soul. So you can work with 15 lives at once or whatever you need to, and that sets all of those other past life personas free and changes the way their vibration is held in the collective consciousness. So as we heal our soul lineage and as we heal our ancestral lineage, we’re actually coming at this from two directions using our soul as the portal, if you like, both into the lineage of our soul and into our ancestors. And when we heal in both those directions, that raises the vibration of all of human consciousness as it’s recorded on this planet and gets us ready to move into a different vibration collectively.
Wow. And you then healing your generations to come.
Yeah, absolutely. Because then you’ve, then you’ve got, if we, if we use um, linear time as the model, if you’ve healed all of your ancestors and they’re all in a healed state, that’s the energy you are receiving in this life, which then gives you a chance to turn and give it to your descendants.
Yeah. Amazing, amazing. And just to, just to close a loop that’s in my mind, just to be clear for the listeners as well, that even though we think in linear timeframe, cuz we operate from linear timeframe in three dimensional reality, that we think of past lives, well, that that happened like you said 2000 years ago, but when you get beyond space and time, like the time it takes to cover this amount of space in know 3D dimensional reality beyond that into the super conscious state, it then becomes non-linear and it’s all happening all at once and then we work from that place. Would that be a good fair enough summary? Yeah.
Um, yeah, it’s a great summary and by example, you know, in the life between live state, a client might say, I need to know, uh, I need to know more about compassion, so I’m gonna incarnate into the 12 hundreds next because those were times that needed a lot of compassion due to religious persecution. So that’s where I’m gonna go next. So they talk in a timeless way about a linear construct, but, you know, and that, but that’s perfectly natural for a soul who’s not bound by time and space.
Wow. The main boggle. The main boggle. There are so many things I wanted to go and continue on, but I’m just aware of the time. Ah, mate, if somebody’s gonna come and see you, what do you generally normally do these days with all this information? <laugh>?
Yeah, yeah, you have, I’m, I’m spending a bit of time writing these days, guy. Um, you know, I’ve, I’ve published a book Quantum Consciousness a few years ago as you know, but in the, at the moment I’m, I’m actually, uh, working on a, a fiction novel about a quantum physicist who discovers consciousness and, um, it’s about to save the world. So I, I think what that does is that’s opening the, um, to a whole new set of readers who might be ready to wake up. So I spend a lot of time, uh, writing, uh, I do run some courses, some advanced stuff for practitioners who are moving into this space and I’d still do a little bit of one on one work as well, you know, just a handful of people, um, every now and then, so, you know, and I live, um, in the beautiful Northern rivers area that you know well and, uh, of New South Wales and, you know, life is pretty quiet looking out on the, the forest and the mountains. So, you know, um, life is good really.
And what could people expect if they were to buy your book?
Well, the Quantum Consciousness, Yeah, the Quantum Consciousness Book talks about the journeys that we take people on call the quantum consciousness experience. And we moved out through different realms of consciousness, starting with stored consciousness where we may resolve anything that is still, you know, hanging around, uh, from, um, previous, uh, times or even a, an aspect of them from the future may come and offer advice, move out into the alternate, uh, consciousness, which is about alternate realities that may want to come forward parallel, uh, consciousness, which might be other lifetimes, um, interdimensional out into the all areas. So it’s, it’s quite a sophisticated, um, journey that takes a few hours and the book is model on that and talks about each of the realms of consciousness and, uh, brings case studies, integrates some aspects of spirituality and quantum physics as well. So, um, yeah, it, I, I’ve had some good feedback on the book over the years. It’s been at about four years now, so yeah, it’s um, and of course the work has moved on since I wrote the book cuz the first version of it was about eight or nine years old now. So there’s a lot more to consciousness cuz we’re an ever expanding field. So I’ve gotta start, um, start to get that next book into shape and get it out there.
Uh, totally. Totally. And if people wanna find out more of your work, uh, Pete I’ll make sure the links are in the show notes, but it’d be great to say them out loud. Um, where can we send
Them? Yeah, thanks guy. It’s, uh, for the work more generally and the organization I’ve founded, it’s institute for quantum consciousness.com. Okay. So there’s a lot of information on there. There’s interviews, articles, uh, a research paper that we did recently on Interdimensional consciousness. So there’s a lot of information at the organizational level. My personal website is quantum consciousness.com.au for, um, the Australian based websites. So that’s where I’ve got some, um, some individual stuff that I offer. So yeah, but that’s, um, that’s a good place to start.
Beautiful. And you know, we’ve covered a lot of ground today Pete, but I always finish with one question on the show and that is with everything we’ve covered today, is there anything you’d love to leave the listeners to ponder on?
Absolutely, Guy, you know, I’d just love to say to everybody that’s listening that you are more magnificent than you’ve ever been told. There’s more to you than you’ve ever discovered and all of that you are in a magnificence is within your reach. So just know that it’s there and go looking for it.
Beautiful. Pete, thanks so much for coming on the podcast, mate. That was incredible. And, uh, I, I know I’ll listen back at a fu for the future stage on this show to, to grasp some of the concepts that you spoke about today. Um, that was fantastic. Thank you for all that you do. Yeah. And thank you for coming on the show mate, this greatly appreciate it.
Thanks so much for the opportunity guide. It’s great to talk to you and to all the guys that are out there. Thanks so much.