#102 My lovely guest this week is Georgia Ellis, creator of Bluechip Minds.
I truly loved this conversation. Georgia openly shares the turning point in her life when she hit rock bottom after finding out her partner had been cheating on her. She wasn’t satisfied with her job or life in general. This made her began to look within and started her learnings within the self-help industry.
What transpires is beautiful and Georgia is not only a good friend but an incredible mind when it comes to this work and how we can live a life reloaded. Enjoy!
About Georgia: Georgia Ellis is a corporative captive, dedicating 22 years to living by society’s conventional rules, Georgia is now a free agent who takes delight in bending the rules. Since 2001, she has curiously been exploring the worlds of human potential, philosophy, spirituality, neuroscience, ancient wisdom, quantum theory, epigenetics, neurobiology and flow, attempting to join the dots on what it really means to be human.
While in a moment of Flow in 2013 she had a flash of insight to start Blue Chip Minds, an organisation dedicated to helping people #betterhumans. Georgia regularly dusts off her business suit , dons cape, rolls up her sleeves and returns to the business world to help leaders and teams move beyond their self defined limits. She mixes her time between travel, research (Standing on the shoulds of giants) and designing and delivering organizational educational programs and group coaching. She has worked with individuals and teams in Asia, the UAE, India, UK, USA, Canada and Australia, she is a regular speaker at Leadership events she also hosts the Ellis in Wunderland Podcast, and see’s all of her activities as vehicles for self transformation.
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Guy: Hi, I’m Guy Lawrence and you are listening to the Guy Lawrence podcast. If you’re enjoying this content and you want to find out more and join me and come further down the rabbit hole, make sure you head back to the guylawrence.com.au. Awesome guys. Enjoy the show.
Guy: Georgia, welcome to the podcast.
Georgia: Thank you so much Guy. Such an honor to be here. I’ve been listening to your podcast over the years and um, I love your guests and it’s so, it’s such an honor to be one of your guests now.
Guy: Well, thank you very much. And I have to say, I don’t know if you know this actually, but this is the third time you’re appearing on my podcast because I know, at the time I got the look because of the radio interviews we did in Melbourne and repurposing them over the last 12 months as well. So, uh, it’s finally good for me to be interviewing you and asking you all the questions.
Georgia: I know. And it’s really interesting because I have my own podcast and um, being on the other end being interviewed, it’s, um, it’s a, it’s a really different based and a good based in it.
Guy: Totally get ready for the difficult questions, mate.
Georgia: Beautiful. I’m going to get what I’ve been saving up for people.
Guy: But I always ask everyone, if you are on an airplane and a stranger sat next to you and asked you what you did for a living, what would you say?
Georgia: Um, I would uh, started with an uhm. Isn’t that funny? I would say I, it’s really funny cause this has changed over the years. If you’d asked me 12 months ago, I would’ve said I, my role and what I love to do is wake people up to their potential. But it’s sort of shifted over the last 12 months because I’ve noticed that a lot of people don’t have much living in their life. And so my, what I do is help people get more living in their life because they get so caught up in societal expectations. What mom says we should do? What dad, what my partner, what my children, what my boss, what the media says I should be doing, have we get caught up in that, that we forget to actually be human. And so what I love doing now is helping people to understand why they’re conforming and how they can start to sell faltering.
Guy: What do you think that conforming brings to someone if they don’t even realize they’re doing it?
Georgia: Oh, okay. It brings a lot of things. It brings physical unrest and mental, um, mental disturbances and, um, emotional sort of blockages as well. It really, I think if you not living in a sense of your true self and listening to yourself, it appears in all areas of your life, mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually. Yeah, absolutely. So it’ll be playing out in people’s lives with boredom. It could be finding themselves always self-sabotaging and ending up in relationships and situations that don’t serve them. Um, it just us down a path where there’s, it’s lacking joy.
Guy: Yes. Wow. I’ve, I was going to ask you something completely different, but I’m gonna stay on this path for a second because I think most people, we are actually craving something far deeper and we don’t even know what it is, how to look for it. Where do we go with that? When people come to you, are they normally in pain? Is it that disconnect, like you said about the living the true self?
Georgia: Yeah. Okay. I think most of them are starting to, or majority of them are scratching the surface. They’re already curious and they’re realizing that there’s something more, they’re tired, they’re tired of living somebody else’s life, I think. And they don’t, they don’t come to me with those words, but I can see that’s what’s happening. So you have the, the executive or, the many jowl, the small business owner who’s just go, go, go all the time. And yet they’ve got no optimal experiences in their life. They’ve got nothing that brings them a real sense of real joy. So there’s, there’s those people, and on the odd occasion I’ll have people who are at that, at that really dysfunctional level. And I probably would not work with them too closely to start with. I would start giving them, encouraging them to be more curious and started encouraging them to start taking a little bit of ownership and then broadening their horizons. Um, I know personally for myself, the greatest thing I ever did was become curious and that helped me move out of all this conditioning that I had that had led me to a life where I was just not happy, nothing was going right for me. This is a long time ago and it was that one thing of being curious and being open minded that allowed me to start self authoring.
Guy: Yeah. A beginner’s mind. I was, I always like to say, yeah. So what, was there a, um, a tipping point for you then with all this?
Georgia: Yeah, there was, there was a massive tipping point and for me, I was 29. I was 29 years old and I was, I’d been married for about five or six years I think at the time. So I married quite young. I had been struggling to have children with my husband and, um, we also were running a business together. It was his business, but I was working in the business. I’d left my career to help him in his business. And I can remember it was in May, 2001 I think it was, might’ve even been my 17th. I think that was the date. So when we have these emotional impacts, we know the dates. Right? Um, and he came home to me and he said, I think we should separate. And I went, okay. I thought that maybe it was just the stress of our business cause we’d a really large contract and we had to change our business and start employing all these people.
Georgia: But unbeknownst to me, he’d been having an affair for a pro only a few months. But it was really interesting because he, he had re ignited the flame from one of his childhood sweethearts and they’d been secretly meeting and contacting each other OB, isn’t it? I’d had no idea about that. But that that in itself was the catalyst for me from moving from a victim of my life to mastering my life. Now that took a long time. There was really 12 to 18 months of me doing all these things, trying to save a marriage that had no hope and saving. So I didn’t let go for a very long time. But also at the same time I was, I had just turned 30. I had been on IVF trying to have kids for a number of years and that hadn’t worked. And all of a sudden I found myself thinking, who’s going to want me?
Georgia: I’m broken. I kind of have kids. Um, I’m old now, I’m now 30 and nobody’s going to want me anymore. Right? This is what I thought I was broken. I was a has been and my, my husband obviously didn’t want me anymore. So, you know, started thinking of all these things of these low self worth started to trickle into my life and I was really, I couldn’t, I could go back to my journal now and start reading through all the things that I had written at that time. And I know there were times that I just didn’t want to be on the earth anymore. I’d had enough. Uh, it was really just, you know, was not the best. And I was very depressed for quite some time and for me quite some time, a number of months. So it was just, it was not the best thing.
Georgia: Luckily for me, my oldest sister, uh, at the time was in a multilevel marketing business and there’s something really good about multilevel marketing companies. They do a lot of personal development and I wasn’t in the company or anything like that, but at 30 years of age, I had not read a books in school. I had done no formal education. I’d done a little bit of business training, you know, working out how to do tax and um, business accounting. But I had done no for, I’d left year 12, gone straight into the workforce and done no other formal training or no other personal development. So my sister had said, Hey, there’s this seminar on, and at the time I really didn’t have a lot of money because we’re going through a marriage breakup. The business was in transition and all these things were happening. So I thought, okay, and I think I invested a couple hundred dollars.
Georgia: To me that was a huge amount of money to be investing in myself. And mind you, that was a long time ago. We’re talking almost 20 years ago now. And um, so I went along to these three day seminar and it was a seminar by gentleman, which I know, you know, called Bob Proctor. And at that seminar I realized that I could move from being this victim and I could start creating my life in a different way. I could become a different version of who I was. And so over the years I started applying what I learned. I became curious. I started, you know, buying books, reading books, um, just went deep into everything that I’d learned in that seminar and expanding on it. And I’ve continued to do that over the years. I applied. Here’s the thing, we, a lot of people I know will go to a seminar, they’ll read a book but they don’t apply it.
Georgia: And I started applying what I’ve learnt and I went from having no money to creating an income for myself. I went from being thinking that I was nobody and worthless to having, you know, amazing relationships. And I left, I moved and started in a different town. I did all these things that I would never have done purely because I was curious and someone had the foresight to introduce me to some personal development. So there’s, it hasn’t been, by all means over the last 20 years, it has an old Bain roses and I haven’t been miraculously creating all these wonderful things. Life is, you know, full of ups and downs. It’s, it’s a law of life, the law of rhythm. And I’ve had plenty of those ups and downs and different things have happened over time. I’ve found myself almost homeless and I’ve been able to get myself out of that.
Georgia: So there’s all these things that have happened in my life, but what I’ve gone back to is using the principles that I learned 20 years ago to get myself out of those rats, get myself out of those. Um, yeah, those, those moments. And those things that didn’t work for me. So yeah, my, that was my turning point 20 years ago and I’ve been lovingly curiously creating my life ever since. And sometimes I’ve made mistakes and I’ve created stuff that hasn’t worked and I’ve just reversed and use the same tools to create something different. So that’s sort of part of the story. There’s a lot more, but that’s part of it.
Guy: Sharing. Wow. Um, within that, and I’m always fascinated because even if I was talking about, you know, moving from victim mindset to empowering mindset and almost we are, we have our own compass and wisdom within us to, to, to move. I, I really feel that cause I’ve done it myself, you know, and unseen it enough as well. When you, cause you’d spoke about principles as well and, and even to this day, I have no doubt you’d go back to, like you said, some of the, the original principles that we learned that for me anyway, it’s always the, um, I dunno the, the basics always work well. And this, if we do the basics well, the rest follows and we tend to complicate things a lot. What would, would there any epiphany? So once you kind of went and you experienced Bob Proctor’s work, who is a bloody legend, you know, and um, and you started to shift this whole mindset from, from like you where you were to where you are now. Were there any Epiphanes during the, those, that sacred time when we going through the transition, was there anything you were like, Oh my God. And then you kept going back to daily, um, to help that transition?
Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. So one of the biggest Epiphanes was I get to create who I am. Hmm. I get to create how I turn up every day and I get to, I get to create my life to a sense. And that I do that create, we all do that creation by how we reacting or responding to situations. So the biggest epiphany was, you know, I am behind the steering wheel of my life and if something’s not going the way that I would like it to go, or I was hoping that it would go, I can turn that steering wheel. But there’s also understanding the, the biggest lesson that I think I, I understood through, and this is through Bob’s teachings on, I know that you’re aware of this as well, is that, you know, our lives come, 95% of our life comes from this subconscious programming that we have.
Georgia: So if I was getting results and doing things and stuff wasn’t working the way that I wanted it to work, I had to look at what, okay, what are, what’s going on below the surface and how can I change that? How can I get, I’m going to use the word energy. How can I get energetically attuned to who I wanted to become and start living from that place and acting from that place? And that has been a game changer for me. Just that simple thing of remembering that. And as I’ve progressed and as I’ve gotten older, if something’s happening, you’re like, if someone’s pissing me off or someone’s doing something that is sort of rattling my cage a little bit, I have this little, I have this little saying that I have in my head, I just say not in my world cause I’m figuring if I can create my world, I can create this.
Georgia: So I will flip what I’m thinking about that person or whatever it is not going to, not in my world. I don’t want this in my world, whatever it is. And as I said earlier, you know, there was a point where I was borderline homeless. I’d left a another not so good relationship. And at the time, luckily for me, I had, I had a house, the house that I live in now and I was renting it out, but I’d left the relationship and I still had tenants, you know, I had nowhere to live. So I was actually technically living in my parents’ caravan in their front yard. So almost if I didn’t have parents, I would’ve been on the streets at that point. And I can remember sitting in their caravan thinking, this is not what I want for my life. Right? How did I get here?
Georgia: And I know how I got there. I had been had an underlying thing about one day I could end up with nothing. So here I was pretty much with nothing and I was really worried that when I actually moved back into my house, I wouldn’t be able to afford the payments on the mortgage because my renters had been paying that for me. So I remember sitting there in the, in the caravan sitting there on the bed, there wasn’t that much room in these caravans and thinking, well, not in my world. What do I want? So I sat down and I just, I wrote this script of what I wanted, what I wanted my life to be like. I got really clear on that because we live our lives generally just based on what’s happening in the environment, triggers things for us, and we keep living the same way all the time.
Georgia: And very rarely do we stop and go, what do I want to create for myself? Who do I want to become? And so I got really serious while I obviously didn’t want what I had right then I had a bank balance that was very quickly declining and I wasn’t living in a house. I was living in this little caravan. I had some stuff stored in mom and dad’s garage. And I thought, wow, what do I want? And so I wrote it out. It was about four pages long. But I also knew, because I knew the tools I’d had all the tools given to me years early and I’d done a lot of studying that I could change the cycle a switch this out. So every day I just started in a way, meditating on this new version of me. I was wanting to become this new version, somebody who had income coming in, somebody who could do the things that they wanted in their life, somebody who was in a loving relationship, you know, someone had a successful business. And I wrote those things out and I got really energetically and twined in that. So it was sitting there and recreating my life. And then if you fast forward approximately 14 months, everything I had written was my reality. Wow.
Guy: I’ve, I’ve done a similar process myself like many years ago. And I have to ask you though, because what I witnessed and what I witnessed within myself was that you’ve got to fully surrender and believe it and buy into it, you know, Wharton or every like every bit of your being. And that’s not easy to do.
Georgia: No. And it’s all, it’s not easy. And I’m going to, for those that can’t see me, I’m just putting my hands in my, my head in my hands as if to say it’s not easy. It is, it’s work. And the thing that kept me going was faith in knowing that it worked because I had done it before in my life. Okay. So I had this underlying a new right belief that if I keep doing this, I know it will work. And that kept me going and I had to prove to myself that it would work. And at the same time I had to allow sit back and surrender and just allow that the things that were going to cross my path, we’re going to cross my path as part of what I was creating. And some of those things I’d probably wouldn’t lie. So I had to really take on that mindset and that attitude of finding the good in everything.
Georgia: And it tells you what, you know, there wasn’t a lot of things that were good right then. So it’s a real shift in who you are in a real shift. And it’s a, it’s a daily practice of changing your thinking, changing what you’re getting emotionally involved in, and also changing who, how you Steph, how you’re turning up in the world. And that’s an energetic thing. Um, I can remember just having so much joy living parents, servants. I found the joy in it. I found the good in it and that kept my, I’m going to say, kept my vibe high in the times that were not the best times in my life. And I continue to do that. I continue to find the joy and I can, there’s so many ways we can do that. If I’m having a crappy day, I know the buttons to push the leavers to pull that are going to raise my vibration to put me in a better vibe.
Georgia: So the better things, you know, I see things from a different perspective. Now I’m not saying that this is, uh, magic and I don’t see how to sit here and try and get a high vibe. I go out there and do work, but I do it from a place of seeing the good and noticing that bad things happen in life. And we have a choice of whether we can allow that to define who we are in a negative way. Or we can allow that to define who we are in a more positive way. And so I choose to earn on the positive and that can annoy some people.
Guy: Yeah. Oh well, yeah. Especially if we, if we resistant to any kind of change, you know, without a doubt. Um, I’m going to prod you one more question with all that. Cause I love, I’m loving at Georgia. I really am because what do you think then is required? We desperate for change, yearning. We even said at the beginning of the conversation about, you know, there’s that disconnect where we’re yearning for something more and we want to bring that into our lives. We, we want to buy in and love the idea of, of you know, stand, what does my life look like? Where I always call it my North star. You know, where, where am I going to point myself and stop moving towards and continue to evolve, grow and love life the same time. But when we’re in those States and when we’re in those places, especially if it’s dark and the whole world feels like it’s against us, you know, that’s, it’s almost one stop pressure is fully on. I guess that’s the almost like the dark night of the soul. If you know what, uh, that’s what our actions truly define us. What do you think is takes to get from writing that out to go and that’s nice, but I’m just going to continue to act out the way I act, think and feel and remain in my circumstances. To then fully surrendering and believing that
Georgia: yeah, that’s, there’s a lot of questions in that question. So what I’ve, what I’ve come to understand is that first of all, change is hard because we may, we’ve got this North star on something we’ve pointing towards, but if we don’t have the internal alignment with who we need to be for to reach that North star, we self sabotage and we self sabotage. And not from a negative point of view, it’s actually we’re protecting ourselves. So within us, our brains and our nervous system, they lie, they love homeostasis and homeostasis is the familiar, whatever’s familiar. So there’s parts of us that he’s always seeking out the familiar. So if you’re wanting a North star, but for let’s say eight months you’ve been depressed, that depression becomes familiar. So to step out of that into what you want, it’s really, really difficult because your condition to be a certain way.
Georgia: Now you’ve done it so long that the brain becomes familiar with that and that becomes basically who you are and you can change that. So the other part, another answer to that question is also to just start with one thing at a time and start to change. So if you’ll, if you’re in a state where you know, life’s not the way I want it, we feel like it’s just so heavy and we’ve got these big ball of negative energy and it’s really, really difficult to move that. But if you can just start one piece at a time and just start making that positive balls slightly bigger every day until eventually that positive ball of energy becomes greater than the negative ball. Because, and this is something we were talking off air is around dr Joe Dispenza’s work. And one of the things he says a lot is where you give your attention is where you give your energy.
Georgia: So if you’re giving more energy each day and just filling up that positive ball, the negative ball of energy starts to just disappear from lack of use. So it becomes a process. And there’s some interesting work also being done out of Harvard by Robert Keegan, and he’s wrote this amazing book called immunity to change. It’s a big, you know, it’s probably not something you just want to sit down and read over coffee. It’s a little bit of an intellectual book, but it talks about exactly the same thing. And he talks about how they’ve studied this through Harvard and through psychology is that there are parts us within our system that will prevent us from a change because it’s trying to protect us cause our immunity system protects us, right? So we have this immunity to change. So therefore your, your subconscious mind is programmed a certain way and it’s going to want to stay there because it’s very familiar.
Georgia: You have an analytical mind that wants to protect you as well. It’s going to look for evidence that what you’re about to do is safe. So if you’re doing what you and I have done by riding out and getting really clear on who we want to become and meditating on that and getting emotionally involved with it on an ongoing basis, we’re starting to form the blueprint and the evidence for it even before it’s turned up. So when the analytical mind starts to look at that and go, Hey, hang on a minute, I do have proof that I have a happy life because I’ve been programming myself to have that and the change becomes a little bit easier, a little bit easier. But we still got to go through that process. And so if we can set up our environment, if we can set up our internal environment and external environment to be aligned with where we want to go, it becomes easier over time.
Georgia: But it’s still a process. We still need to put in some effort. You can absolutely speed that up. Like with some of the work that you do, uh, guy meditation and getting that really aligning our energy, we can find that we can have changes really fast as well and we can change, I’ll be hyping really quickly and I’ll behavior ends up leading to our results. So the aim here is to work on internally so that our actions change and when our actions change or environment changes and there’s a whole lot of other things that happen at the same time. But I don’t know how much time we’ve got cause it gets quite complex.
Guy: It does. It does. But I love your answers honestly. Georgia for sure. And, and you know, having known you for several years now and seeing the way you live your life and the way you conduct this work and, and having, you know firsthand, I had to overcome yourself many times like we all do. And it was really interesting. I only put out a post the other day and we can touch on vulnerability if you like as well. Cause I think especially for us, for me as a male perspective, it can be really hard for us mentor to do but so therapeutic at the same time. But I did the post the other day just just owning the shit that’s going on in my life right now. And I thought it’s very easy to put one side of the, especially through social media and email you can, you can just, you can, you know, attuned to whatever it is you want to present at the end of the day. Obviously we want to help people and present it aspects where I think we need to honor the other side that way. Most of the time we are frightened to go there, but I’d love you to touch on that because for me the more I’ve often the S gone there and just accepted it and gone through it, it’s like this, I don’t know, this huge weight comes off every single time and it always reminds me too, why am I so frightened to that? Like why does that come up?
Georgia: Yeah, I love, I love it. And I saw your post, I actually read your post and it was really enlightening because we see and in the day and age we live in at the moment we have social media and we see everybody’s highlight reels of their life. It’s the highlights, it’s the, it’s the, um, it’s the shorts for the movie. Like come and see my movie because it’s awesome. Right? But actually there’s a lot of stuff going on in the background and that vulnerability is really hard because deeply ingrained in us is this real, this need for acceptance and this need for fitting in. And if we’re going to be vulnerable, we think at a really deep level that no one’s going to like us anymore. No one’s going to trust us. You know, your person of influence. If I’m vulnerable, people might not follow me.
Georgia: Now, they may not do my programs. They may not listen to my podcast or whatever it is. And he’s the funny thing I find too, when I’m really vulnerable and sharing something that’s of a personal nature of something that may have been a failure or something of my own that hadn’t gone right. So many more people connect with that because within all of us, we’ve all made mistakes. We’ve all had rough times, we’ve all gone through things that don’t work for us, and we can connect with that more deeply than what we can with the people that are really successful. Because if you just put all your highlight reels out there, you’ve got all these amazing followers, you’ve got the best podcasts and all people go, I can’t be like that. And so they disconnect. They’re going to connect more with you when you’re bringing your real true human self to the forefront.
Guy: Yeah. And then I think that’s just a great practice to have amongst the people that we have in our lives as well. And I never realized as well the company I kept was such a huge influence on, on my progress or not, you know, if I did want to become master my own self and I live in a, in a more joyous loving state too, being the victim myself as well. And as I started to own my own true small, which I guess ties it back to the what we started at the beginning, the more the people in my life that maybe don’t support myself kind of drop away, which is fine, there’s no judgment there. And then other people come in. You make space for other people in your life to then support your,
Georgia: absolutely. And you can do it consciously or unconsciously with the people that you surround yourself with. And, um, I, I agree 100% and we’ve got this, there’s this true self within us just yearning to come out. I really believe, and a lot of is we are so heavily conditioned with who we need to be and we’re trying to fit in with a social group that maybe doesn’t serve our deepest self. And you know, one of the things that sent me on this journey back when I, um, when I went to Bob Proctor seminar was I had this, all of a sudden I had this real desire to find out about what we can do as humans. You know, we, uh, we have so much potential locked up within us and if we can go in was and find that we [inaudible] we really do need to be around people who get that journey we’re going on and that can support us through that.
Georgia: So I, I know of, um, people in my close circles who have been going on journey of self discovery and, you know, learning more about themselves. And one of my key things is to, you know, we, we have so much potential. The best thing you can learn about yourself is how your body works, how your brain works, how your mind works. Because you’ve got this vehicle you’re living in, you want to know, you know how it works. I get curious about that. But I have people, friends who have gone down that that path of understanding more about who they are. And yet they’ve got people close to them thinking, Oh, you’ve been brainwashed
Georgia: Oh you have joined a cult. You know, all these things start to bubble up. And because it’s something that’s going to help someone progress, all of a sudden it gets labeled negatively. And that’s a real shame. Totally. Cause yeah, because people are wanting to bring out the best versions of themselves and people out of fear start to tear them down. And that’s when we surrounding ourselves with the wrong type of people. Yeah,
Guy: yeah. Absolutely. So I ask you a practical question for everyone listening to this what, let’s say three, what three things tips would you give someone that has maybe in that point of knowing this is the transition come in, things are going against them. Where do I start? What can I bring into my day? What can I research? What can I look at? Like what three tips would you give someone that has benefited you over the years to stop?
Georgia: Yeah. Um, okay. The first tip was would be really get a, a deeper understanding of what causes your results in your life. So that is understanding how your, understand how your mind works. Because that in the end, how you think, how you feel and what the energetic vibration are in is going to determine your results. Really deep dive, get curious on that. Don’t take my word for it. Get curious. And you’ll find that it is written everywhere. Any religious book, any scientific book anywhere. You’ll find that it all points to this. So that’s one of the things I’d suggest you do. Another one needs these to find. Find your, find your tribe. Find people who are on a similar journey that you can relate to, people that can cheer, lead you along the way. And that will also really help. So a group of people and someone reached out to me on LinkedIn goes, where do I find these people?
Georgia: And I go, well, where would they hang out? They’d probably hang out at a person development. They’re probably hanging out at a yoga center anywhere where they’re bettering themselves, they’d hang out, they’d probably find them hiking through nature, right? So you know, where would they go, go, go to those places. Um, and the third thing I’d say is really sit with yourself and in a space of quietness and get really clear on what you want. If you know, if you really wanted something that is greater than what you are now, and it might not be, it might just be a simple life, you know, no judgment here, but whatever it is that you’re wanting, get really clear on that. Because if you don’t have something, your North star that you’re moving towards, you then start getting pushed and pulled from every shiny object. And anything that sort of piques your interest sometimes can take you off path unnecessarily. So I think get clear on what it is you want. Understand how your mind works and surround yourself with people that are going to cheer lead you along the way.
Guy: Beautiful. Beautiful. What, um, sparked another question. What non negotiables do you have in your life these days with everything that you’ve learned that kind of helped guide you on a daily, weekly, monthly, yearly basis?
Georgia: One of the, one of the things is, is what I’m doing going to serve me in the future is what I’m doing. Going to play a part in where I want to be, how I see myself in the future. So that’s a really a guiding sort of rule for me. Is this going to be good for me? Is this going to build me up? Um, and another guiding principle is absolutely curiosity. Just I don’t know everything. So be curious. I have some information here, but somebody might have something that’s counter that’s different to that. So have an always have an open mind and be curious and know that I know nothing
Guy: beautiful. They, they’re my guiding principles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Simple. Not, I love it. So I always ask everyone sets sets of questions on the show. Georgia, and we might’ve touched on this for what you shared before, but I’d be interested to hear your thoughts around it anyway. Um, is that, have you had a low point in your life that you look upon as a blessing?
Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. What are the spoke about? I look back at that, not my husband came home and said, I think we should separate as the best thing that ever happened to me. Yeah.
Guy: Just didn’t feel like that at the time though. No, not at all. Absolutely not at all.
Georgia: He’s later. It did, but at the time, absolutely not. But now I look back at that and see is as the biggest, yeah, absolutely. It was a catapult and a turning point for me to really start to get clear on who I was. And I didn’t know who I was and I’m not saying who I was from a labor point of view, but deep inside who, who I was from a spiritual point of view. Hmm. Why do you think we need a wake up call to wake up and we don’t almost just, I often think about this for us. I know, I know, but, but even with the conversation while it’s coming in, because I often ponder a book cornered myself and I see so many people thinking why this, this would, if you just nudged over here slightly, this would just support the efforts.
Georgia: Allow you to, yeah. I really don’t know if I can answer that because part of me thinks, why do we need this wake up call? Why do we need, you know, the wheels to fall off before we decide that, Hey, I better go and fix the car. Right. Um, I don’t, I don’t know. I really don’t know. I can’t answer that. It’s a mystery to me because I really would, I was a believer of that, but I can’t find evidence yet of people who have made significant change in their life that haven’t had a wake up call, show me someone and then we can talk to them about what happened. But I don’t know anyone who hasn’t had something of some nature, a wake up cold create change in their life. And one of the things I’ve noticed through the work I’ve done in through the study, I’ve done that there are two ways we can change.
Georgia: We can consciously change through repetition. So you know, maybe I want to create a new habit. I can change, right through repetition. I can reprogram myself to create a new habit or a new belief system. The other way is through an emotional impact. Something happens and it instantaneously rewires the brain and we take new action automatically. Like instantaneously. I’ve had both happen. One is consciously me making the change because I’ve realized, Hey, you know, I need to exercise more. So I consciously exercise more. But there’s been times when I knew I wanted to exercise more and take up a new type of exercise and I didn’t. And it took an emotional impact for me to start doing something different. Yeah. Kind of answer that. There are two ways we can change consciously. We decide or unconsciously when something just whacks us in the face and it’s just a big eyeopener. Big aha. And it’s different for everyone. Some people will have, you know, their will their world fall apart and they won’t change. I know people in their forties had heart attacks don’t change their lifestyle. Yeah, totally. I find ’em I still lead wake up calls.
Georgia: Uh, I’m getting better at a preempt and things. I kind of like the, when the warning light comes on it kind of happens a bit sooner. Yeah. And he’s something just really interesting. The wake up call can be different for everyone. So a wake up call might be a health issue. It might be a wake up call watching a movie. You might have a wake up call reading a magazine. You may have, it could be something really terrible, but those wake up calls don’t always have to be something drastic.
Guy: It might just be this big flash of the obvious. Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Absolutely. Um, what does your morning routine look like?
Georgia: I love my morning routine cause I’ve self faulted this. So generally my morning routine is, uh, up stretching, uh, grab the dogs, go for a walk. And before that I’ve had a big glass of water. Sometimes I put a meditation in there, but I’ve actually, and I mentioned this beforehand, my meditation practice is fallen off a little bit. So I’ll go for a long walk with the dogs, come back, do some yoga. Um, make myself a healthy smoothie thing at around 10:00 AM ish and um, do a little bit of sometimes, well most days, a little bit of learning in there as well. So I’ll be reading while I’m having breakfast or studying something. Uh, so that’s basically my morning routine, a bit of bit of everything.
Guy: Yeah. Love it. Um, if you could have dinner with anyone tonight, uh, from any timeframe, anywhere in the world, would you think it would be and why?
Georgia: Yeah, because we’ve got so much to talk about. That’s an easy answer. But why not? Like, seriously, we think that we’ve got to have dinner with all these famous people, but we’ve got these amazing human beings sharing the planet with us and Mmm. Well I could get you and I could have an amazing conversation over dinner. Totally. If, if I could choose anyone, it would be you.
Guy: Yeah. Thank you. I feel honored. I am, I got one other question that landed in that it just feels right to ask you for whatever reason, but has there been a new habit for the positive that you brought in for the last 12 months? And if there has, what would it be and why?
Georgia: This is, again, that has, there has been a new habit that I’ve consciously done. And for those watching, you’re going to see this, I don’t know if you’ve seen one of these before. Yeah. I’ve read Rola. So in February this year, I had an emotional impact. I saw a video of someone explaining what happens to our, um, happens between the muscles in the skin overnight, how it starts to tighten and so forth. And I thought, I don’t want that happening. What can I do today that my future self will thank me for? So every morning I do read rolling
Guy: and, and did that, just to give people an example, a on audio, it’s literally like the size of two tennis balls. Would you say? Maybe
Georgia: it’s like two tennis balls, um, rubbed together as stuck together and you roll. I roll it on my, my fate, my legs. Um, I’ve rolled get on the floor, I do my spine with all my arms, the back of my neck. So I’m basically, um, giving myself a massage every morning.
Guy: Love it. You know, the irony was I did the whole lot just before the podcast this morning and I took myself down the gym. I took all my trigger point kit down and I rolled myself out and I’m always grateful.
Georgia: Yeah. So that would be the habit that I’ve installed this year. And it’s again, as I said earlier, what can I do today that my future self would thank me for and it will thank me for that.
Guy: Yeah. Awesome. And last question for you. Um, everything we’ve covered today, is there anything else you’d like our listeners to ponder on?
Georgia: I think just what I just said, what are you doing today that your future self will thank you for? What are the things, what are your daily habits? What are the things that you’re doing? Are you connecting back to your true self or are you moving further away from it? Yeah, I think that’s, that’s it. Just look at your daily routines. Look at, look at your environment, look at what you’re doing. Is it getting you to where you want to go? Are you going to look back when you’re 103 and go, thank God I did that back then.
Guy: And just make sure you act upon it.
Georgia: Yeah. Take action. And that’s the tricky bit.
Guy: Yeah, totally. Thank you Georgia. For anyone that, where can I send everyone? Um, if they want to learn more about your work, what you do.
Georgia: Yeah, absolutely. So if they want to jump onto bluechipminds.com, it’s blue chip minds as in what we think with not the minds that we go mining for oil or golding. Um, or even just hooked me hook up or this Georgia Ellis on Facebook. Instagram is bluechipminds and LinkedIn as well. So they can find me there or jump on board. Not that I want to take them away from your podcast, but I have a podcast, Ellis in Wunderland as well as I’d like to have a listen to that.
Guy: Hundred percent.
Guy: Yeah, I’ll link to them all on the, on the show notes below this as well so people can go and check it out. And um, yeah, Georgia, thank you so much for coming on today. Um, always love our conversations, love everything you do with this work and you’ve certainly been an inspiration to me too. And um, yeah, just want you to know I deeply appreciate everything.
Georgia: Thank you. Likewise. I appreciate everything you do and it’s been an absolute bull talking to you and I’m looking forward to dinner tonight.
Guy: Yeah, thanks Georgia.