#104 My lovely guest this week is Dr Sue Morter, an international speaker, Master of Bio-Energetic Medicine and Quantum Field visionary and also the author of her new book ‘The Energy Codes; The 7-Step System to Awaken Your Spirit, Heal Your Body, and Live Your Best Life’.
I truly loved this conversation, and if you are even remotely curious about how changing your energy is the best way to change your circumstances, then this episode is a must listen to. Enjoy!
About Dr Sue Morter: Sue Morter is an International speaker, Master of Bio-Energetic Medicine and Quantum Field visionary. Dr. Sue utilizes the embodiment of high frequency energy patterns to activate full human potential. Through her seminars, retreats and presentations she illuminates the relationships of quantum thoughts and energy medicine; the elevation of human consciousness and life mastery.
Dr. Sue’s visionary model and techniques ignite an entirely new approach to living in creative genius and personal freedom through capturing and enhancing high-frequency energy patterns in the body. She draws from her experience as a doctor for over 30 years, inspiration from a life-changing awakening during meditation, and her personal passion for cracking the code of life itself. Her greatest joy is sharing her discoveries with others.
In addition to her private practice, Morter HealthCenter, she is founder and visionary of the Morter Institute, an organization committed to teaching individuals self-healing techniques and a new approach to life based on Quantum Science.
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Guy: Hi, my name is Guy Lawrence. And thanks for tuning into my podcast today. If you’re enjoying these conversations and you want to check out more of this transformational work, be sure to come back to guylawrence.com.au and join me as we go further down the rabbit hole. Enjoy the show,
Guy: Sue, welcome to the podcast.
Sue: Oh, thank you so much guy. It’s wonderful to be here and I look forward to seeing where we get to go with our conversation today.
Guy: Yeah, so, so do I, and I’m, I was, I know we were saying, Oh fair. But when people keep posting me things, you know, when you start seeing it from different angles is certainly something you need to start to investigate. And that’s what happened once you released your book. Uh, there was quite several people saying, Guy, check out this book. Check out. This book is fantastic. And, uh, the moment I listened to it, I was blown away, Sue and, and the work that you put into it. And I even checked out the videos and the support and everything that you did with that book. And being somebody who has a business myself can appreciate how much love and effort went into that. So,
Sue: Oh, definitely a labor of love and uh, and my life, you know, it’s, um, I had a life changing experience 20 years ago and, uh, I turned my life into a living laboratory so that I could reproduce that experience. And so I ended up codifying what it took to do that. I’ve shared it with my patients. They started getting better faster and staying better longer. And so I knew I was onto something scared. So it’s been a great joy.
Guy: It has been amazing. And look, just to clarify as well, if you were on an airplane and you sat next to a complete stranger and asked you what you did for a living, what would your response be these days?
Sue: Well, I share it with people how to identify with a different reality than the one they were living in that’s creating so much pain in their lives. And so, uh, I turn people on to a higher picture version of themselves and, and teach them how to integrate that into this life, into this world. Um, uh, I’ve said a variety of answers to that question over the years by means of, I first was a doctor in a clinic treating patients, and then my focus became, I’m a teacher, I’m a teacher and a doctor. I don’t know both. And, uh, and, and everywhere from quantum science to a spiritual teacher, um, and everything in between because really it’s about everything. You know, it’s all related and, uh, personal development and self healing techniques. I, I share that a lot on an airplane. I’m on an airplane multiple times every week. So I have, I have many opportunities for this conversation.
Guy: Dial it in for sure. How would you find people respond to you these days about it?
Sue: You know, it’s a whole lot different than it was 20 years ago. I, um, uh, I never talked about it, you know, initially because I was, and as I began to integrate more and more, I realized that, that people don’t have any idea what’s going on in this life. And that’s why we struggle so much. And so the more I shared, the more people started asking. And that’s what really the impetus for writing a book. People asked me to write a book for for a decade before I ever sat down to really, really do it, you know, about seven years into that. So, so now people respond wonderfully. People are hungry for information, they know something more is, is available and they can almost taste it. They can almost touch it and feel it and see it. They feel like they’re just about to step through a threshold. And it’s really just, it’s about a little bit more information, but a whole lot more embodiment and integration of that information that is needed in our entire culture is going to just pop open. It’s, it’s a very exciting time to be alive, to be here cause there’s transformation is in the air.
Guy: Oh totally. Well, that’s what happened to me. And, and it was really fascinating because, you know, with hindsight now now many have to look back, I can look at the decisions and the things I was doing and get myself into all sorts of a mess in life, which I still do to a degree. I’m not, you know, but that embodiment that once you have that experience with these experiences, for me, that’s my greatest teacher by far. And just finding them, finding the balance to lean into it before you have an embodied experiences is the key, I think. And you do that so well with your information that you get across.
Sue: Oh, well thank you. Thank you. You know, it’s interesting because I was using the word embodiment before anybody was talking about such things. People were still focused on enlightenment. You know, how do I, how do I have these out of body experiences or we read about these near death experiences in these fantastical dimension of multidimensional things that people experience and everybody wants that. They want that. And I had that without a stroke or without nearly dying or without an out of body experience in that way. I had it through meditation and I was, you know, just illuminated and um, I was me, but I wasn’t in a body. I was, I could see 360 degrees around me then this beautiful iridescent horizon would rise and fall each time I took a breath and I could see the earth beneath me about the size of a marble and I was embedded into it, up to what would have been my knees.
Sue: But I didn’t, I wasn’t in a body so I didn’t have knees, but I was just Ray of light, just this Ray of light. It was crazy. And I was a scientist and a doctor and you know, living in a totally different world at that time. And I was, I was like, I didn’t even talk about it to very many people for several years. Just just the people who were in the room with me when it happened. And, and then I started really, I wanted to return to that state because the most important thing about the whole experience was I was, I was completely fulfilled, completely satiated. There was nothing to accomplish. There was nowhere to go, there was nothing to become. I was whole and complete. And I knew that this was the truth about all of us. But we’re, we’re living in some lower dimensional version of that and we don’t have access to this.
Sue: And so because of that, we, the mind starts filling in all the blanks with all these stories about who we are and about what life is and what the limitations are about at all. And, and it compresses us into a box that we don’t belong in a, so I turned my life into this living laboratory, as I mentioned earlier, to just try to figure out how to recreate that, how to get there again. And I figured it out and as I did, I shared it with other people and it’s just been a phenomenal, amazing, amazing life transformation. So the key was not about the enlightenment experience. The key was can I get in my body as that one, as the one that was illuminated and live and see through these eyes from that being, from that state of being so that I see that the issues at hand aren’t really issues. They’re just here to help refine me and to nudge me toward this true awareness. And uh, once we get that as a concept, once we get that down, the key is embodiment. The key is building the circuitry to be able to perceive the true self instead of this protective personality that we developed along the way.
Guy: Yeah. Yeah. Incredible. And that two questions popped in. There was one, were you, when that experience happened to you, and I’m assuming that’s what happened when you mentioned 20 years ago, that the turning point where you, were you actively sort of seeking that or was it coming from a place of pain? And the other question would be then how the hell did you respond? Once you have something like that, you know, the first few days later and you go home or whatever, it would happen.
Sue: I was blown. I was blown out. Uh, okay. So I wasn’t seeking it because I didn’t know it was there to be sought. I didn’t, I wasn’t aware of, you know, I was seeking meditation as a stress relief. I just was trying to learn how to calm down my mind because I’d become perfectionistic. I was horribly shy. I overcame it by being, you know, really good at, at doing all of the tasks at hand. I became perfectionistic. And that of course leads to stress because it’s not authentic. It’s not real. And uh, and so to seek relief from my perfectionism, I sought out meditation, but I didn’t know about it from the standpoint of illumination, enlightenment, the Eastern principles. I didn’t know any of that. I was just like, how do I learn how to breathe to calm myself down? Cause I was starting to get migraine headaches.
Sue: And so I sat down in meditation and within the first two or three meditation, the very first time I sat down in meditation, I had an experience and about the third one I this huge transcendental experience, multi-dimensional. And that was what I was describing to you. So it was pain that drove me to learn meditation and then it was within meditation that this opening occurred. But I didn’t know about this idea that, that you could enlighten. It wasn’t about that. I thought I was just, you know, it was stress relief. So it was a, it was double the benefit because my headaches went away. It changed my life. I was no longer a perfectionistic. I was, my circuits were blown and, and uh, enlightened that occurred, you know, just coincidence. It was, there are no coincidences, but it was as if it was just, you know, an accident that I stumbled upon this, this reality.
Sue: I have this image. Let me see if I can find it. I was just teaching a class and I used this in one of my classes, so I’ll see if I can hold it up here and see if this works. Now this is kind of like wow, big, big old spiritual type of image. But, but just, just take a look here. This is who we think we are and this is what happened. I lit up up here, I could see down and this was, you know, quite a distance quite further than this image will show. Uh, but, but what I really wanted would show people is, is this energy field that exists down here in the human system. It’s, uh, if it energy drops down through our body, hits the earth and rises back up and cycles around and around and around, and, and if it, if it rises up through enough accurate circuits, it rises up and creates a perfect field.
Sue: If it rises up on limited circuitry, it creates a distortion in the energy field. And that distortion is what creates our stress. We look out through that field and we see a distorted reality. So most of humanity is walking around inside of a distorted movie that they think is filled with stress and think that it’s filled with things that are suppressing them and causing them hardship. But it’s actually a reflection to us about what’s not going on internally. Uh, what is or what is not going on internally. And so it’s really just feedback. So if we take it personally, we never get to the fact that it’s really just feedback trying to show us how to, you know, hook up the lens a little bit more accurately.
Guy: Yeah, it’s incredible. And looking at those charts then with a distorted chart, the energy and how the Torah should be running naturally from all your experience and what you’re seeing, then, should we be really thinking about changing our energy to change our circles
Sue: as opposed to just constantly trying to change the physical time? Right. We try to change our circumstances so that it will change our energy, but our circumstances, quantum science is showing us our circumstances. Our life is a reflection of our own consciousness. And if the co, if our consciousness isn’t running accurately, then the energy doesn’t run accurately through our bodies. So the toric field gets a distortion. So it’s all in response to how we’re holding what we’re holding as true. If we’re holding an illusion as meaning I’m not enough, or it’s never going to work for me, or you know, fate would have it that, uh, I’m never going to have what I want or it’s impossible. I’m too old or I’m too young, or I don’t have enough money. All that kind of, those limiting beliefs, uh, they play a role. But I work with people beyond the idea of just changing your beliefs.
Sue: I’ve worked with people to realize you actually are made of the energy that you’re trying to learn how to manage. You’re made of it. It’s you, it’s not something separate from you. And when we get that, uh, identity honed together, uh, then we have the power to really transform our life experience from this masterful place rather than just thinking that we’re, we’re caged in by our mind and we have to change our mind to, to change our reality. Now there are, there are additional ways that we can work with that, that make the whole thing easier.
Guy: Totally. So what happened here? So that would’ve changed your reality after an experience like that. Yeah. So how did you find integrating back in, you know, after that experience and like you said, you, you didn’t speak about it for awhile. Like what happened?
Sue: Yeah. Yeah. So it blew my circuits guy. It was like I was in bed for days, so there were people, the teacher that I was working with, instructed people that go to my house and he’d take me home, go to my house. I had to fly across the country to get home. Uh, my circuits were completely blown. Um, and there were people taking care of me. They would wake me up to try to feed me after a couple of days. And I was just in such a blissful state. I didn’t care if I ever came back. It was like, whatever, I dunno what you people are doing, but I’m going back into the bliss. And, and then I finally started grounding enough that I could get, get up, get up, get, get functional, go back to, to work for, you know, part days. And, uh, and then it started to integrate even more.
Sue: And, uh, I couldn’t listen to, to the television. I couldn’t the radio, it was too much that the vibrational frequencies, the only thing I could stand to tolerate were the sounds of these sacred chants from the East. Some somebody started playing them and I was like, Oh my God, thank God. And as it turns out, those chants were sounds of, uh, really higher frequency, uh, realms. And, uh, and that’s what the chanting was for in the East. That’s what they were doing with their mantras in there. They’re repeated, you know, chanting and, and, uh, what we would call song, uh, was for a different purpose for them. But it allowed me to, to feel soothed enough that I could start to climb into my body with his experience. So, um, I was quite blissed out then. It was hard to be here. And then as I learned to come into my body with it, um, I started the bar.
Sue: I really recognize that the body was a buffer and a filtering system to allow what I now know are billions of bits of information that are bombarding this energy. The system that we are every millisecond. And if we’re in the body, the body acts as a filtering system that starts to step that information down. It doesn’t arrive to our head. It arrives these billions of bits of information. They arrive at our gut level and then they’re carried up by the Vegas nerve and they’re carried up through chemical impulses, et cetera, through the endocrine system and all kinds of things. They’re filtered through the heart. And then there which has another brain. And so the brain and the gut translates information to the brain and the heart, which translates the information up here to our conscious brain in our head that we’re used to disecting and studying and were fascinated with the function.
Sue: Just the brain. But it’s the processing plant that is a, the third step in us integrating this universal intelligence that we have access to. And that we’re made of. And so, uh, so as I began to figure this out, um, I was able to drop in the body, use the body for the filtering system that the buffer that it’s built to be. And all of a sudden I had access to this universal intelligence, this, this cosmic, you know, translation was happening through me. Uh, which I know a lot of people, people have access to. We call them channelers or we call them, you know, mediums that have access across these veils, et cetera. Um, and there’s actually some very real, uh, real research that is showing us that, that not only is this possible, and not only do I know that it’s possible for my personal experience, but science is starting to get on board with, with validating this, which allows other people to accept it as a possibility. And, uh, you know, because they, they like the proof. And, uh, and so there’s, it’s just a beautiful time to be, to be, uh, to be alive where science and spirituality and these types of, of experiences are, are merging. They’re coming together, uh, in an evidential kind of way, uh, which allows more and more people to accept it as a possibility. And so we get this mass consciousness going and we’re helping each other wake up because of just the energetic that we’re allowing to be valid and true.
Guy: Yeah, it’s incredible. And it’s, um, once you have that experience, and it’s like the way I look at it, it’s almost like an adaptation that starts occurring and the more you lean into the adaptation that’s going on within the body, the more you kind of have a communication with this very energy and your transmission gets better and better over time. And it keeps on and it keeps unfolding. But
Sue: this is what I’m trying to steward humanity into, to recognizing this, to, to learning how to work with it so that this, this translation can happen accurately. Because if there’s accuracy, we can start to trust it faster. Like people are translating all the time, but if they don’t have enough circuitry in place, the translations are sketchy. And so they, they kind of get the impression that they should go and do this thing or that they should say this or that it’s safe to work on that or to, to, to, to open to something. But because they have limited circuitry because it’s new, um, they, they kind of halfway translate the information accurately and oftentimes they miss. So then it’s hard for them to build confidence that, that this is trustworthy and that I can live my life by my gut feelings and my intuitions because sometimes it’s on and sometimes it’s so off.
Sue: So I’m teaching people how to build greater sensory circuitry so that they can translate and adapt as you say, a faster, more efficiently, more effectively. So that that adaptation allows for accurate translation of information that is here for everyone. It’s not our educated mind type of information. It’s this, it’s this intuition, this hunch, this, this inner knowing, this, this guttural wisdom. Literally that’s rising up from our entire system, hitting the heart, hitting the brain so that we can translate it. But if we don’t have the circuits in place, because we’re so used to operating from our educated intellect, uh, it’s hard to trust this, this other version of information or if truth that’s rising in us. And so I’m trying to teach people how, and we’ve been having amazing results for the last 15 years. Um, specifically since I’ve been teaching this, these in the form of the energy codes, it’s a codified system of learning how to translate this, this universal intelligence that we’re all swimming in this, this unified field or the zero point field of consciousness that, that we’d been learning about and hearing about for several years now in our culture. So it’s very, very exciting.
Guy: It’s very exciting. I w one of the biggest problems I see when, when working with people and even for myself was, was we, I, I see people come up against all the time. They don’t know what to do. They, they, they feel stuck. They feel trapped and, and, and we’re leaning into this, this body of work and learning to trust that it was such a huge relief for me in terms, and I’m sure it must have had a few, if you will, being a doctor and then stepping into teaching this work. Like it would be a very different identity to what you would have been accustomed to if I’m not mistaken.
Sue: I had to let go of everything, you know, really, I mean one step at one, but eventually, you know, I had to let go. What am I colleagues going to think if I start talking about all this wacky stuff. Are you kidding? And, and fortunately I was in natural health care, so, so it wasn’t about medications and surgery and that kind of thing. It was about how do we connect with nature enough? How do we allow our body to function the way it was naturally designed to be function, to be self healing. And I was raised in an environment where that was the case. I’ve, in fact, I’ve never gone to the doctor and gotten a prescription to take antibiotic in order to heal something because I was fortunate enough to be born into a family where my father, my parents were, were interested in natural health care.
Sue: And my father was a chiropractor and was, uh, was working with the body’s natural ability to heal and turning on innate intelligence, which is the healer within. And he developed a, a healing modality that he traveled the world teaching to other chiropractors and natural healthcare practitioners. So it was in my blood and it was in my cultural environment to embrace this. But still, uh, what I was accessing and experiencing was far beyond the discipline of, of chiropractic and its regular expression in the world. And, and so I had to, you know, navigate this thing where I knew people were going to have some crazy stuff to say about it, but it didn’t matter. It just didn’t matter to me. And at the, at the end of the day, what I, I knew the experience that I had and the experiences that I was continuing to have as I was learning, you know, in this rudimentary way to build my own circuitry.
Sue: And, and it just outweighed what people thought. I just, I just, I care deeply. So I can’t say I didn’t care. It just didn’t matter enough to keep it, to keep it with hell. You know, it just, it wasn’t an option. I figured this happened in my life for some reason I have to explore it and it’s making such a difference in my own life. I healed a scoliosis in my own body, a curvature of my spine that was very similar. I healed these migraine headaches that were debilitating to the point that I was missing work one or two days a week for months on end, right before I started meditating because something had to change. And so I was driven to meditation and they, they were healed. As soon as I started integrating this word, this experience, uh, and developing these practices, the migraines went away.
Sue: You know, my life just completely changed, completely changed my shyness, went away, my perfectionism, you know, started dissipating because there was this trust in the universe that I never even knew was there to be had suddenly was just taking over my life. And, and I know that every, I mean it worked with tens of thousands of people since then and every single time that one of them actually, you know, gets that, Oh my God, this is true. This can be true for me too. And they start dropping in to the, to this with the practices that I’m teaching. Uh, they, they relieve their symptoms, go away, their lives start to change. They become self-empowered. They become, you know, more intimate in their relationships without withholding it just, you name it. It’s across the board that things begin to transform when we step into the true self.
Guy: Yeah. Amazing. And who wouldn’t want a piece of that? That’s for sure. You know, so, so yeah. Let’s talk about your book. You’ve got the energy codes. When was it released? It was this year, right?
Sue: Just this year. It was just, it was just a, a few months ago. Um, uh, and it’s been an amazing experience with Simon and Schuster. The release was, uh, March, 2019. And, uh, when I started writing, uh, that was, that was like three years from the time I started writing until the time it was published and it seemed like, you know, forever. And, uh, and it, it time passes pretty quickly when you’re putting all that kind of information together and came together beautifully and
Guy: Oh, I look as beautiful. And how would you best describe the book then to somebody? Like what are the energy codes and if they bought the book tomorrow, what would they expect from it?
Sue: Sure. So the, it’s in three sections and in the whole book overall is, is truly to teach people how to, to stop living from our protective personality or our performing personality, which is basically the ego. But, uh, but I noticed that people don’t like to have an ego, so I call it the protective personality and, and, and nobody minds having that. So we can get a lot of really great work done when, uh, because we have a prejudice about the ego. But then I like to tell people, you know, by the way, only the ego doesn’t like to have an ego. So if there’s reaction to it, you know, maybe there’s something there for you. So, but basically what it is, is we, we land here in this life and we kind of splat and in the splat, our mind goes one way. Our body goes another, our breath goes another way.
Sue: And out there on the perimeter of the splat, we develop this, this way of, of coping, of compensating. We bargain, we negotiate, we developed this identity of who we think is going to be acceptable and how we should operate in the world and, and, and so on. And it’s not who we really are. It’s just how we learned to get around, how we learn to get by, how we learn to, to cope and to navigate and to be successful and to make things work. But it takes a lot of energy to keep performing that way. And, uh, and it doesn’t ever let us really true the accomplish our true destiny. And, uh, and so, uh, the book is about how to pull yourself back from the splat and to start to integrate what you learned as skillsets out there, how to integrate that into serve the essential self to your true self.
Sue: And so we don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. We take everything that we learned how to do and how to navigate and we then apply it to a greater cause. And that greater cause is to serve the soul, is to serve the essential self, the true self who, who you were when you chose to come here and to get that one back together, get the pieces put back together so that that wouldn’t, can have the life that it came here to have. And so a byproduct of that is your beliefs change and they soften and you, you rise up as a different version of who you are from the inside out rather than continuing to be identified as the mind. Uh, because in the splat, that’s what we did. We hooked onto the mind because it looked like the one that was most likely able to protect us and to figure out how to navigate this life.
Sue: But because we’re attached to the mind, we have this limited life experience because the mind is based in duality and so, so therefore the mind is based in judgment. So things are either right or they’re wrong, they’re good or they’re bad or I’m good enough or I’m not, or I can make it or I won’t. Um, and and so because of all that dualism, we get really exhausted and life becomes really un-fun. It’s really good on a good day, but it’s really rough on a bad day. And so what we’re doing is establishing a different identity and one that isn’t so controlled by the mind one that that actually gets the mind off of us and has it serving us instead the way that it’s supposed to be. Instead of, it’s like we ask the mind to run the show and the mind isn’t equipped to do that. And so it’s freaked out all the time.
Sue: And really the mind wants to be serving a greater cause. That’s why we’re so attracted to causes. You know, we want to make a difference in the world. We want to contribute to something. And the reason for that is that the mind doesn’t want to be alone running the show, even though it, it go quickly, tries to do the best that it can every day. And it will defend itself to the enth degree until we realize, Hey dude, there’s a better way. Just chill out, stop it, knock it off. And it will do that. It will chill out if we give it an easy way to do that. So the energy codes are teaching people an easy way to get to get unattached from the ego, get them the egoic mind, serving the soul instead, and turn it around in what I call the quantum flip.
Sue: So in the first section of the book, I talk about quantum science. I talk about how it all works together, but I do it in a super user friendly way so that people can relate to it and make it, make it applicable. And, um, and I talk about my experience of awakening and how I integrated that along the way just to share the story with people so that people can start to realize actually they’ve been having something similar like that in their lives all along. It shows up in a variety of different ways. Some of them are dramatic, like mine was, some of them are little nuances, little nudges. And when I start writing about it, people started saying, Oh, I get that. That’s, that’s kind of what, like, what’s going on with me? And I’m like, exactly. That’s what we have to realize is how to connect the dots so that we have the power to pursue this on our, on our own.
Sue: So then the middle section of the book is all about how to, it’s the how to exercises of how I got integrated and how I’ve shared that with thousands of other people who are having the same, you know, many, many different experiences. Uh, similar to awakening to their own true essential self. And then the third section of the book, I’m just kind of giving you daily practices and ways to put it all together so that you know that you know that you’re making a difference and that as time passes you will have created a different life experience for yourself. And then just giving some images in the last chapter about what it would look like if everybody was doing that and uh, and how we can live on, uh, from this quantum flip, uh, on what I call the front side of the model where we’re operating as a creator instead of just becoming a better reactor, a better responder in life. So
Guy: totally wonderful. Yeah, no, I can second that. Like I said, I, I’ve, I’ve gone through your book twice on audible, listening to it in the car and driving around and I’m a busy person. I have a lot of people sending me stuff all the time, but honestly, your book was phenomenal. Uh, the way you break it down, the way you instruct it and simplify it, it just made so much sense from start to finish. So I certainly encourage everyone to check it out for sure.
Sue: I’m glad to hear that. Yes, I’ve gotten great feedback from it. You know, you never know when you put something out there, it makes sense to you. Right. But you know, you don’t know how it’s going to go, but we’ve got, we’ve had a tremendous response to it. It, it’s hit number one on bestseller lists and, uh, all kinds of things. And so that’s, you know, that’s what matters to me most is that, is that we can touch the people with it and, and come together as a community and support each other in a, the most important part of our, of our life on earth is really to wake up to the true self, to, to, to our own true, magnificent self. And, uh, that’s really what our life purpose is. Whether, whether we think it’s, uh, you know, what vocation we have or, or what job we’re in. You know, that kind of thing is not the deal. It doesn’t really matter. Uh, as long as, as, as the whole of our life is serving us, awakening to the true self.
Guy: Well, what, what would you say, last question before we move on. What would you say to someone listening to this that is just on the fence, that curious, but there’s, cause I’ve noticed even in my own journey, there’s a lot of fear can be wrapped around it and things like, Oh, I’m so, I’m so comfortable I’m, I’m attached to the old self and I don’t know if I’m going to like this new version 2.0 that wants to come through and we kind of make up stories and we can be, get quite fearful of it. Um, what would you, what would your advice be to somebody listening to this?
Sue: So, you know, for me it happened like bang, it was all at once. For most people it’s an incremental thing. The book is designed for instance, to walk people through it step by step. So the beautiful byproduct of that is nothing’s going to happen before you’re ready. Um, what happened for me was I was pushing the river and so was my teacher. I could tell, uh, now in retrospect I can tell that my teacher knew that was going to happen. And, and was really, you know, hoping for that to happen, uh, under their watch. And, uh, and you know, it, it did, but, but I don’t recommend it happening that way. And so I had to work to get in my body. If I had been in my body, it wouldn’t have been a challenge for me the way I described having to be in bed and having all these sensitivities become super sensitive and that kind of thing is totally unnecessary.
Sue: So, so we have people now today that are impacts that are very sensitive already. And the thought of becoming more sensitive is like, forget about it. I don’t want to do that. And then we have the other end of the spectrum. The person, like you say, like, I kinda like my life. I’m not really sure. I want to like do this radical change. And the good news is it doesn’t have to, in fact, the energy codes is all about integration. So it’s about one step at a time so that you’re infusing every transformation, every change in with the rest of who you are. So it’s an evolution. It’s, it’s a transformation. It’s not this radical, you know, throw the baby out with the bathwater. Things have changed too much and I don’t like it kind of thing. It’s not at all. What happens is you evolve your own pace, like what you’re, what you’re interested in looking at and integrating is what happens.
Sue: And it happens from the inside out. It doesn’t happen from the outside in. So nothing can happen that you’re not ready for. And so you can go partway into it and it’s like that, that’s good enough. You know, I think I’ll hang here at this level for awhile and then six months later you decide, you know what, I think I’m ready for some more. So you just start doing more of the practices and it uplevels you and, and it’s, it’s, it’s like that, like you’re, you get to still be in charge. You still get to have freewill choices. It’s not that when the ego, you know, steps aside that were just completely untethered. It’s not that at all. In fact, we’re more grounded than the ego lets us be, you know, the, the mind works like this rapid moving ceiling fan that’s spinning so fast.
Sue: You would never stick your finger through it because it would hurt, right? So, so we have to learn how to slow down the mind so that the true self, which operates on a totally different frequency can slip through there. And we can have a bigger experience of, of who we are. But that’s all paced by us. You know, it’s never going to happen faster than we’re ready. Can’t happen faster than we’re ready because the moment we start fearing it slows down the process. So another concern for people is how do I get it to happen faster? You know, the opposite of that. Not like I’m digging my heels in. I don’t want all this change. There’s, there’s that. But there’s also the person who’s saying like, enough already, I’ve been doing practices all my life, I’m ready for this. Like get a big cup, bang.
Sue: And, and I’m also speaking to that person, showing them how, how to allow that to happen. Uh, but it will always happen with grace and integration with this work because the work is about integration. It’s just, it’s really about the balance between loving and thinking. If I’m willing to love more and think less, I’m going to have a faster transformation. If I feel like it’s going too fast, all I have to do is start thinking and it slows it down. So we tethered, we’re supposed to tether. It’s like the gas pedal and the clutch, you know, which one do we push? How do we know when to shift? Take our foot off the gas and, and, uh, you know, pushing the clutch and, and then shift. And then how do we know when to let off the clutch and hit the gas just right so that we end up, you know, feeling out here.
Sue: Um, it’s all up to us and all we have to do is learn the skills to use this equipment the way that it was built to be used. But nobody’s been teaching us that, um, that was stuff that was deepen the Ostrom’s and, and really not held it as a secret, but held as sacred. So that only the sincere and the ready, the adapt were, had access to the information. And we are evolving in such a fashion that, that we’re ready in, in a greater sense of the mass, the masses to, to have this access to this information. And I know that we’re ready because it happened in me. And while I was studying with a teacher, I was brand new. I was stay deeply in that for four years, living in, you know, the equivalent of, of Osram type living periodically, uh, throughout it so that I had access to the information.
Sue: But, but this awakening was happening, um, nearly automatically. So if it could happen in me, I knew we must be ready for this. How do I know? Cause here it is, it’s coming. It’s coming out of me, you know? And so the teaching is, is this divine, uh, orchestrate orchestration of a conversation. But, but I’m interested in making it user friendly and in a very integrated way in our modern day. So, so here we are and that we do, we have access and it’s our time. It’s our time. Or we wouldn’t be interested. You wouldn’t, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now and our viewers wouldn’t be viewing if we weren’t interested. We’re interested because it’s our time. It’s time for this conversation to, to manifest
Guy: 100%. Everything you just said was amazing. Like I, I, I, um, I was curious and I had no idea Sue about anything of this work. And then I went to a meditation retreat in Mexico and had my brains blown open in the second day and first experiences here. And there was just like, well, if doc, I’m just a guy from wields that used to play rugby, like it’s, that’s happening to me, then there’s gotta be a few more out.
Sue: Right, right, right. And thank goodness that we didn’t know that it existed. I can speak for myself. If I knew this was a goal, I would have never accomplished it because I would have been so busy trying to do it right. And I would have been so caught up in the trying, the allowing wouldn’t have had its way with me. So I was just this innocent like, good. Somebody just show me how to stop having headaches. And to stop stressing out. So I sat down and boom, you know, this whole other world opened up not, and I was in a room full of people who’d been trying to meditate for 30 years to have an enlightenment experience. So I started sharing this happened and I thought I was just catching up to the people who were in the room and there were like, what are you getting?
Sue: You know, I’ve been trying to do that for 25 years. What are you talking about? You didn’t walk in here, you waltz in here and have that happen. And so, you know, they were like fussy with me and I was like, Hey, I have no idea what’s going on. And so I could learn what had happened from them because they’d been studying to have it happen. But I, I know that when we get in our heads about it, it, things don’t happen like they should because the mind is a constrictor. It’s a focuser. That’s its job. And the heart is the expander. So we want to expand. We have to drop into love and science. Fortunately, quantum science is showing us, turns out it’s smart to love. It’s smart to love. That’s what quantum science is teaching us. And I could go into that. It’s a whole different conversation.
Sue: But, and I love to, I’ll come back and we can talk about that, but, but, but it becomes this ability to, to manage how much do I allow and how much do I put my foot on the gas and think. So the thinker is the gas pedal and the heart is the, is the fuel is the, is the igniter is the expander. It’s the Exploder of our consciousness. So, so something happened with you and I wasn’t in a state of love when that happened. I was just stilling my mind. And the love shot out bigger. So the consciousness is love. Consciousness is love. It’s, it’s the same thing. So pure consciousness, the unthinking mind, the observing mind is dialing closer into this frequency. So the same thing happened with you guy in some fashion. You weren’t trying to become enlightened and you just, you were at a meditation retreat for whatever reason.
Sue: And it boom, it opens up. And for me at least, I can speak that if I had known that was the goal, I probably wouldn’t have hit it because I’m like this overachiever. Like if it can be done, it can be done now kind of person. And, and so, uh, I snuck up on myself, you know, uh, uh, by divine design and, and this, this, this is what I want for people to be able to approach it in a manner that they know if they do this, then they’ll do this, then they’ll do this and then it will unfold. Uh, versus just trying to, you know, go for the whole thing all at once. And, and bowling our way in, uh, like a bull in a China shop, keeping it from ever being able to happen. There was just enough reverie inside of me and appreciation for life and for possibility, uh, that, that it, the innocence one over my thinking mind. And, uh, so if, if playing rugby was your deal and yet you found yourself in a medic nation, you know, that’s like the, I hear that all the time. Lots and lots of students are, are that they’re like, it was mine, my own business and bang, here I am now what do I do with it? Uh, and then, and I’m showing them how to integrate and other students that have never had the experience, they’re having the experiences because of the same integrative processes. It’s because it’s, it’s putting the pieces back together.
Guy: Yeah. Well, I’m certainly grateful for them, that’s for sure. Like, you know, I can’t imagine a life without having them now. Like, you know, so, um, it’s, it’s incredible. Now I ask everyone some questions on the show each week and the first one is, what’s been a low point in your life that’s later become a blessing?
Sue: Hmm. Oh, wow. I, I’ve had some, I wrote about a couple of them in the book. Actually. Those are the ones that came to mind. Uh, one was, uh, not being accepted by my father in certain ways that were, that really buckled me over certain, certain judgments that he had about me or, or, uh, as much as he loved me and was, was caring. Um, he, he just had his own ideas and he had his, his favorite, you know, scenarios in life. And I wasn’t fitting into that. So, so the one that I offered up in the book where he, he didn’t include me in his will, uh, at the end in any, any, uh, degree that he included my siblings. And so, uh, it was a real like buckled me over, took me, took me out, you know, just call it, and it was even after I’d had this experience.
Sue: But you know, when it comes down to your biological family, there’s, there’s a reason on a soulful level that you guys are here. And I talk about this in the book about, you know, these, you have these soul agreements, these soul contracts to help each other really like get it, like awakened. And so he was holding my feet to the fire in a way that he didn’t even know about. Um, and, and later I realized that I didn’t get that support because I didn’t need that support. But in the moment I thought I needed the support and meaning the emotional support, the love, it felt like a withdrawal of love and, and it wasn’t about the money and the goods and that kind of thing. Although, you know, I was very emotionally attached to several of my mother’s belongings, which now I wasn’t going to have access to.
Sue: So it co it just really was, was hard. And uh, and in that I recognized from it that, that I didn’t, I didn’t get that support. I’ll say it again because I didn’t need it. And when I realized I didn’t need it, I accepted a greater version of myself than I had ever been in contact with before. And, and I was able to step into my power in a way that I, I probably, I guess never would have or, or certainly this happening as all happenings are, was in my favor to find my own true power. And so it turned out to be, you know, one of the greatest blessings of my life, even though it was devastating at the time. You know, and this is, this is the way it is on planet earth and things that are fading are truly trying to teach us to reach inside of ourselves and find the part of us that any other set of circumstances wouldn’t have, have, uh, you know, nudged us toward.
Sue: Thank you for Sharon. Um, what does your morning routine look like? So I love to uh, drop into meditation. I do. So before my feet hit the floor in the morning, uh, when I first am aware that I’m awake, I start a central channel breath, which is something I teach in the book. And I do this a little body scan to determine where the circuits are and where they are not and wherever they are. Not what happens is if my intention is to get all the way down through the central channel, just inch by inch by inch all the way down through the body. And I get to about here and I’m off thinking about like to do list or whatever, then I know that I don’t have the circuits in place right here to match the, the version of me that I have evolved to at this point in time.
Sue: Uh, and so the energy disperses and the next thing I know I’m off of my task. I’m off of my intention and I’m being pulled out by the world into some other, into some other idea of what’s important. And, uh, and so then I do the circuit building practices are in the book to build the circuits wherever it was. If I happen to be down by the heart, by the time it splats but, but the dispersal happens, then I build the circuits there. If I’m all the way down to the solar plexus or down in my deep core wisdom and then I’m off on my a to do list or wondering what time it is, then, uh, then I know that that’s where I need to build the circuits today. And then I set my intentions, uh, regarding where that, uh, evolution needed to be happening.
Sue: Where the circuits needed to be built today. So if it’s here, I set my intention on speaking my truth and hearing my truth and coming into my body and manifesting here more fully. Um, if it’s in my heart, you know, my intention is okay today, no matter what happens, I’m going to be loving instead of being thinking, uh, because if I start thinking, chances are I’m going to miss an opportunity to build more circuitry here where obviously it’s appropriate and the system is constantly telling us what we need to do next for our evolution. That’s what I love about, about this work that I’m, that I’m sharing with people is that the whole system shows the mind exactly what you need to do next in order to work effectively with all this. So I love yoga. Uh, I do, I do breathwork. I, I tried to get on the yoga mat, um, every day and this year has been super busy because of the book launch and all the book tour and all those things.
Sue: So it’s been extra that I’ve had to do internal work. When, when it didn’t allow me to get on the mat, I do the circuit building work that the book is, is all about. So, um, then I’m, I’m drinking, I’m drinking lemon water, room temperature, lemon water to get the cleanse happening. Uh, immediately I drink celery juice, uh, in the morning to detox and get, get a happy start on liver, kidney, colon type of things. And um, uh, then, um, I begin my day so I can take, take all day. But that’s how, that’s the days beginning.
Guy: Yeah. Fantastic. I, I’m always curious, I’ve had over a hundred people on the show now, you know, and the amount of different morning routines that come out is those extraordinary. Yeah. Beautiful. Um, if he, last question, if you could have dinner with anyone tonight from any timeframe, anywhere in the world, who would you think it would be and why?
Sue: Wow. Uh, there was a Sage, um, named [inaudible] who I more recently learned, um, was actually teaching some embodiment practices. Uh, he was, uh, an illuminated individual who was teaching, um, uh, principles from the East, uh, for many, many years and had many, many, uh, many wonderful, miraculous things happen in his life. And, uh, as with many of the, the, the true teachers from, from the, uh, from the, the deep philosophies of consciousness from the beginning of recorded history. Um, there are many I would select, but I’m in this moment, you just, that was who popped into my mind. Uh, I visited his, uh, Ostrom in India, in Southern India once I, many, many travels to India. And uh, as I was standing near his, uh, where his burial site is, I had another transformational experience and multi-dimensional experience was happening right there. And I was taking a group of students there just to, you know, uh, all along the Southern tip of India to stopping at many different destinations.
Sue: And this was part of, of the tour. And it wasn’t necessarily a specifically special part of the tour. It was just another temple and such that we were visiting. And so I’m having this experience and the students are coming and going into this room and, and I’m realizing I’m having an experience here and I’m supposed to be the leader of this group, taking care of all these other people. So I was kind of in two places at once, you know, just trying to tend to them and also allow this, this, this wave of this, this fiery essence that was just like, felt like it was just coming right up through the ground, through, through my lower half of my body. And, and this amazing transformational, uh, uh, experience was happening for me. Just this phenomenon, this phenomenon was, was going on. And I later then this looked him up a little bit to see what was going on and, and only to find out that that long ago, um, he was teaching these concepts of coming into the body with this high frequency energy. So I’d love to pick his brain and talk a little bit about the embodiment practices and circuit building and share with him, uh, what quantum science is saying and see what he had to say about that. Uh, just to, uh, just to navigate this pathway for humanity, a little, uh, a little, uh, you know, with whatever else could be added to the conversation that he might be able to contribute. I’d love that.
Guy: Yeah, that’d be one hell of a conversation, I reckon. And last thing, uh, with everything we’ve covered today, is there anything you’d like to leave the listeners to ponder on?
Sue: Well, you know, I would say that that one thing that I would love for humanity to catch right off the bat is that there’s nothing broken. There’s nothing missing. There’s nothing wrong that you’re holding, holding complete exactly as you are. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you can get on to the front side of this model of consciousness that I referenced after the quantum flip, uh, in the book I referenced it as operating as a creator. The sooner you can get on with, with tapping your own higher consciousness, with integrating it into your own life and allowing it to shine out through the work that you’re already doing in the world. Uh, your regular common workplace thing. That’s thing that feels like a job that can’t possibly be expressing your, your spirituality or enhancing your, your own personal development. I, I, I beg to differ.
Sue: It’s exactly how you’re supposed to be expressing out into the world for now, cause that’s what you’re doing. And uh, and allow that to be yours, your practice. Allow it to be your integrative practice where you’re, you’re figuring out how to bring your higher self into even seemingly mundane activities. Um, because when you figure out how to do that, you’re integrating, you’re infusing yourself into your, into your body and into your life. And, and other miraculous types of things will start to happen when you least expect it. If you just carry wood and chop, you know, chop, chop, chop wood, carry water. As the saying goes, uh, in our modern day examples, um, never taking your eye off of, uh, living as the essential true self and having confidence in that. So, so let you be you, you’re here to do that fully. And when you do miracles happen.
Guy: Yeah. Beautiful. And where can I send everyone to? They want to get the book. They want to check out your work. What’s the best place I can, I can
Sue: they can reach, reach, reach us at drsuemorterdotcomjustdrsuemorter.com. And you can, you can, you can get the book through our website and you also get extra meditations and things like that that I have as support materials for people that want to come to the website and check out. We have all kinds of coursework and I take, I take journeys with to sacred sites around the world. I also teach the basic coursework around across the United States. And I’ve met many people from Australia and around the world, uh, on my sacred site journeys that I take people, uh, to Egypt and India and Machu Picchu and all kinds of amazing places, uh, where we can do the work when we’re being influenced by the energies of these sacred sites.
Guy: Awesome. Awesome. Well, I’ll, um, I’ll, if people pause this podcast, if they’re listening on iTunes, the link will be straight below it anyways, so they can do that and check it out while they remember. And it look, thank you so much for coming on the show today and thank you for all that you do and the work you’ve put out, certainly helped me in my own transition personally as well. And um, yeah, it’s deeply appreciated.
Sue: Thank you. My pleasure. My pleasure. And thank you for what you’re doing because interviewing this many people and sharing it with as many people as you are is an important link that we need to be supporting, uh, in the world. So it’s very important what you’re doing, guy. And thank you for inviting me to be here. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it and look forward to connecting with you again.
Guy: You’re welcome. Thank you.