#121 My awesome guest this week is ex-journalist and good friend Marcus Pearce. We have a fun, empowering and upbeat conversation about the steps we are taking during these uncertain times. No matter your family history or your genes – or COVID19 – Marcus believes that it’s not all downhill from here and that your best years are in front of you, not behind you.
The seven key aspects we dive into amongst many other things are:
– Be aware of the way media works … (MP starts and GL follows)
– Powerful morning routine
– Choose your media wisely – don’t default to more news, more Netflix … think about what you want to consume … It’s different after a big days work and you just want to switch off … but this is different now … you actually want to switch ON
– Creating Circuit Breaker (from unconscious to conscious
– Power of movement
– Rip it up and start again … Work / Career … Home … Almost anything. Question everything!
– Gratitude Practice
About Marcus Pearce: Marcus Pearce is a journalist by profession who cut his teeth in radio and TV alongside Australia’s biggest names in sport and showbusiness. Today he is the director and CEO of The Wellness Couch – Australia’s #1 health and lifestyle podcast network with annual downloads in excess of 2 million and lifetime downloads exceeding 8 million.
His most popular podcast, 100 Not Out, comprises hundreds of interviews with some of the world’s happiest and longest-lived people.
Each year Marcus travels to the small Greek Island of Ikaria – known as the island where people forget to die.
In 2005 Ikaria was identified by National Geographic as one of five Blue Zones– a part of the world experiencing greater longevity than anywhere else on the planet.
On this tiny island they experience 25% less cancer, 50% less heart disease, 75% less dementia and next to no gut health problems. And, they’re some of the happiest people you’ll ever meet.
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Guy: Hi, my name is Guy Lawrence. And thanks for tuning into my podcast today. If you’re enjoying these conversations and you want to check out more of this transformational work, be sure to come back to guylawrence.com.au and join me as we go further down the rabbit hole. Enjoy the show.
Marcus: Right now.
Guy: I know, it’s incredible, isn’t it? And this is my second podcast. Thanks for coming, Andrea, after coming out to talk about these things. But obviously I’m just checking Facebook live. I’m not very good at doing two things at once, but it is working.
Marcus: as a wonderful thing.
Guy: Back into the podcast. But it’s the second one. We stream live via Facebook and we had such a great response the other week. I want to do it again and bring these conversations to people and hopefully help inspire and empower them in some way cause we’re all in this together. We’d all certainly going through a lot together and who better than a man to talk about these things and Marcus Pearce. Awesome legend
Marcus: look on, I’m a raging optimist and it drives some people nuts. But, this is a time for optimism if ever there was. So I think it’s important and you and I love to have those conversations often when we’re not recording. And I think, uh, when you called me the other day and said, let’s record one of our conversations and, um, you know, talk about just how important it is to be empowered right now. I mean, gee whiz, this is not a time for disempowered and running scared and running away. This is a time to really get on top of self and, and, uh, and, and living harmoniously with others.
Guy: Totally, totally. Well, how have you been since it all started to change? Like what’s been the general mood in the household and where you’re at and,
Marcus: well, I think like many people around the world, we’ve got that extra hats. So we’ve got four kids for people that don’t know me, so we’ve got eight months for three and a half, seven and 10. So there’s just the and we’ll talk about this today, how, you know, one of the circuit breakers, given this environment is actually just go and have lunch with five other human beings. It’s a great change of pace in the, in the busyness of the work life. But obviously you and I do a lot, a lot, so much in the digital world. But then a lot of our work is also in live events which aren’t happening. So, you know, professionally there’s been some major readjustments doing more of this, which I’m loving. I just am so grateful for the social media at times like this. Even though you and I, live just down the road from each other.
Marcus: Being able to do this with people all around the world is phenomenal. You’ve been telling me if some of your meditations that you’ve been having with people from, you know, so dozens of countries around the planet is just on over. We could do it before Corona, but it just seems extra special to be able to do it at the moment. Um, no one’s whinging and moaning about screen time and how Eddy social it is and how bad it is and the blue line, no one stone about that. Now everyone talking about how good is it that in the time of isolation we can all still be connected. No one cares about lighting anymore. No one cares. It looks more gray and blue on mine and nice and brought with you. Everyone’s just happy to have a bit of loft. So I think for us it’s been, you know, very similar in other ways in many ways.
Marcus: Um, but then very different in terms of like a lot of people just having more, more time together. There’s no very little time of, um, you know, Sarah ducking down to the for a couple of hours I’m missing. I’m definitely missing not being able to sit at a cafe and just talking to people that, you know, and even randoms and just auto chitchat like I’m missing that. But I recognize that that’s not, so you can probably hit the kids having a fight right now. There’s way more of that in the school hours. It’s one Oh five normally they’d be running about the, the, you know, the playground. Now it all happens here.
Guy: How has your, how has your mindfulness been with four kids in the house?
Marcus: Well, I’ll say whenever I whinge about children, I always have friends that either don’t have children or can’t have children. They go, Marcus, we love your problems right now.
Marcus: And it’s like when I tell people about living up in barn and I, if I ever talk about the potholes in the roads, people like who are the poles? So I just don’t even go there. I’m not going to say
Guy: it’s funny how we just get used to things and no matter how good we get it, it becomes normal. And then we complain about the good things that we actually have in our lives.
Marcus: We’ll be complaining, don’t you worry when when Corona is gone and we can all get out of the house again, you start people, people start winching about the peak hour traffic and how busy the CalFire is are. And I couldn’t get a ticket to this concert cause now everyone’s getting out of the house, you know. We can say the hide is he going to hide the complaining, they’re going to complain. And that’s just human nature, isn’t it?
Guy: It is mate. It is. Yeah. No, it’s incredible. I touched on a few things you said for myself as well. You know, like half of my business has disappeared overnight really in terms of what we were doing with the events and retreats and we’ll adjust. But there is in a strange way, there’s, there’s elements that I’m reconnecting to that I’d kind of lost is it’s given me permission to, to let go to a little bit of a degree. I appreciate I’m not in certain positions that other people are financially, I might be in that area, but obviously it’s affecting us all in many ways. But in some respects I feel like I’ve slowed down
Marcus: well, yeah. Well, just in the times that I’ve seen you as well, what I’ve been. I’ll just love about you is emotionally, mentally you seem to have adjusted and adapted really quickly. So I think people that are in your tribe I think is really important to not only stay connected to you right now, but even to rely on you because it’s not many people that, the moment that I’m saying are adapting in the gracefulness that you are. And then on a professional level, I have been inspired by how quickly you’ve adapted the popularity of your digital space. But the fact that, um, you’ve been quick to be able to just be putting out so much free content, free classes, free meditations, um, you know, at a time like this in society right now where people need it more than ever. Um,
Guy: It’s needed. Right? And I always liken it to the gym. Like I’ve always looked back upon like we’ve all had hardships in our lives and, and you know, we’re all certainly going through different hardships now at different, uh, degrees and levels, but I’ve always been able to look upon my own hardships and difficult situations in time and actually draw some beauty from that, nor it might’ve taken me years to, to really see the wisdom in those hardships. It’s like, almost like, um, and the work I teach and we work, we do is, it’s almost like keeping yourself fit, but you’re keeping yourself a mentally, emotionally fit. But then quite not often we have to go and run a race or a marathon or shit gets real. And we have to actually use that fitness.
Marcus: Well, someone at the markets and now, yeah, well someone at the farmer’s market this morning said San Marcus, can you give me something positive? And I was like, can you give me some positivity? And I was like, well look, my first response was, I know this is not factually correct. And I said, look, we’re not all dying and let’s be clear folks. Like there are people dying. But this is, I said, we’re not in a war. We don’t have the fatality rights of world Wars. This is not something where people are losing their young children, their teenage and the, and the, and the children in the prime of their law, the 20s in their thirties who have gone off to other countries never to return. And I had a whole generation and family lives change forever. Let’s just be really clear about what’s happening at the moment in this world.
Marcus: And this is nothing. This is nothing compared to what many people, our parents and grandparents have gone through. Yes. Financially and economically and those things. But honestly, it’s nothing compared to, I’m just looking at my bookshelf here and you know, looking at stories of world Wars and if you’re living in Australia right now and you can go on a job seeker payment and you can go on all these things, gee, what a country to live in going through a time like this. Imagine being in other developing nations at a time like this and just autistic, what a country to live in, regardless of your political affiliations and what you think about all the rest of it. You know, I’m just so grateful that we live here at a time like this and this is, I see it, I know there are people dying, but on a grand scale of things, if we looked at the annual deaths from diabetes and cancer and all these other things, like I do think, you know, we need to get a grip. Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Guy: I hear ya. A book that sprung to mind is man’s search for meaning.
Marcus: Oh, I bet you got it there. Right, right here, baby. Right here. Pardon the lighting. But anyone get on that boat? It’s, it’s a couple of nights. It’s not a, not a, you’re worried that two or three nights whilst we’re on books now actually I’ll save it cause I know we’re going to talk about this a little bit later. Okay. Dangerous. That’s dangerous doing these interviews. So close to my bookshelf.
Guy: Well look with everything with the inset and covered, we decided we want to talk about seven points today. I was a mediator of mindfulness with your background as well. I was fascinated the year yours, your end of things because obviously in the competitions we’ve been catching up as well with your media background, you kind of got an inside scoop of how it all works and us consumers that might just switch on the TV every day or watch the news or keep tuning into these things. We actually forget there’s a, there’s a full operational system, the other end that as hierarchies and agendas and it’s all coming down to channel into news that’s coming up. So with that in mind, let’s get onto, um, to go into the first point.
Marcus: I think so. I think let’s talk about the news. Yeah. Let’s talk about the awareness or being aware. Step one is being aware of the way the media works. And as you said, I did spend the first seven years of my professional life in TV and radio at channel nine and a sports radio station called SCN in Melbourne and a few other, uh, larger networks. But I think the key to remember here from a media perspective is that good news doesn’t sell, uh, you know, the cat being saved from upper, upper, upper tree. That’s always the very last story in the news. The news itself is the news that gets to us mentally, emotionally is the bad news is the fear. It doesn’t sell to say it’s a sunny day, go out for a picnic, go catch away. Like people will just read the headline and go and do it.
Marcus: They’re not going to buy the paper. They’re not going to turn on the news. So right now, and again I’m not, I’m not downplaying the coronavirus story, but from a journalist perspective, it is, it is media fault. It is great that we can give you an update on the fatalities every day and update on the new cases and update on the recoveries and update on how many countries have now. Got it. An update on the economic stimulus packs and update on the lockdowns of every single country. This is a moving base. It’s a movable faced for many people. We just consume every day and even though it might be the same type of food, it’s more in this changes in this subtleties and there’s, there’s cultural shifts. How is Italy do it? How’s America doing? It has a Straley doing it. What’s happening in China? It just never ends and we become so consumed by that.
Marcus: It’s no wonder there’s a great, there’s a great speaker Ralph to belly. He wrote a book. I wrote many books, but you can Ted talk him. Dibeli DOB a double L I talks about the effects of the news. His work was published in the guardian, but the big takeaway for me is that consumption of the news dampens your spirit and got your far more qualified to talk about the body than I am. But news consumption increases your cortisol levels. As a result, it decreases the ability of your immune function. It definitely decreases, um, or has a deleterious effect on your mental health. We want to be really, really mindful of not just want to be mindful of the way the media works, but then be mindful of how you consume it. And God’s probably good for you to come in here and talk about how the body responds to fear and almost why we’re not wired to be pleasure seeking. And whilst we’re far more wired to be, um, aware of will bring us pain
Guy: STEM. A few more questions, but I’m going to refrain. You know, it’s fascinating because I actually moved away from watching the news and I’ll never forget, right? I just decided to just bring it to me. Now. I went to a, um, similar to a Tony Robbins ordinance seminar 15 years ago, maybe longer, and it was a really wealthy guy presented in that. And I said, um, and I went up to him after I said, I had one question, you know, and as I said, if, if there’s one thing you could tell me that would help me to move forward in my own personal self development, what would it be? And he looked at me and he smiled and he gave me a ring. He said, turn your TV around,
Guy: And that was it. And then walked off. And I had to contemplate that for a while. And I did, I physically turned my TV around when I got out. You,
Marcus: well, the news is like a drug for a lot of people. Like gluten is like a drug. People, people forget that gluten is like a drug. Sugar is like a drug. But the news is like a drug. And I see this when I talk about this in, I remember doing a talk for the NAB once and it was probably like 75 people in the department. I spoke about news consumption. One of the ladies when I was talking about, you know, in the morning maybe instead of checking the news, you know, um, read a book or, or journal or do something quiet. And she was like, but I need to know the news. And I said, that really luck. Why? And she didn’t have a great reason why. But it’s like you’re taking away the drug. Don’t, it’s like, give me back. My smokes. Don’t take this away.
Marcus: And a lot of people are even thinking about it right now. It’s like if you didn’t know the news, particularly at this time around Corona, how would you be? You might go, Oh, but I’ll miss out on the big government announcements. You know what, within five minutes of an announcement, you’ll have a family member, a friend, or a neighbor sharing the information with you somehow. Or if you go onto Facebook or Twitter or whatever, you’ll get it somehow. It’s amazing how when you switch off from the news, you can still get a level of relative, um, information. And then the other thing with the newsiest, how many new stories that you have consumed, can you genuinely remember and that have had an empowered view on your life? Yeah, and I reckon it’s a bit [inaudible]
Guy: that the body is actually, um, the body, the physiology of the body is conditioned for survival, period. Right? If we do, if we do nothing and we just allow the body to behave in a certain way, it is actually going to see things negatively five times to one. Wow. Right? Wow. As a survival mechanism. So we’re all always constantly on the scan and consciously for the worst case scenario. Yeah. So we’re constantly going against the physiology. That’s why, which we’ll touch on later. Gratitude practices and generate in emotions of wholeness, love and gratitude, joy and wellbeing. We’re actually creating a different chemical response within the body that the body can then adjust to which we can, can become the new normal. But because all of these processes that act in underneath the hood, right? We create a homeostasis that the body is conditioned to. And homeostasis is about maintaining balance and keeping you safe.
Guy: And if you’re continually, um, fixating on certain circumstances in the world that’s creating an emotional response and an emotional feeling, there needs to be a chemical response that the body is continually go into. Hence why you can become addicted to watching the news every day. Hence why you can become addicted to having to check social media 30 times today to see if you feel that. And it’s why you have to get in on the gossip of your friends and your coworkers and everything else because you’re actually creating a response that becomes familiar within the body. And that is deemed as safe because it’s familiar because it becomes a known [inaudible].
Marcus: Well, I’ll just say Flo Meyer, as I said, I’m very happy living without the news. There are plenty of people keeping me updated. Thank you. Flow that that’s exactly what I love to say. What we would love to see that people have very happy living without the news. If we then ask people now, tell us about your news consumption. I don’t think many people would because I think the challenge is that it becomes, when you talk about it like this, it becomes a little bit embarrassing to admit that we do check so much. And I find out about you guys, I know if I’m tired at night, I will check a couple of things almost for completion, like completion from Madonna, they’ll go to bed, but you realize that we’re talking about this dopamine fix of, of screen time and it’s like scrolling, scrolling, scrolling and it’s like you have to cut the cord some way somehow. And I think what you’re talking about guy with that, we are conditioned for survival and it’s all happening under the hood. It takes a fair chunk of effort. It’s a bit of inertia in lifting up the hood and going in and enough,
Guy: it’s like quitting sugar, man. Everyone loves the idea of it. But when push comes to shove three days in,
Marcus: uh, you gotta your fix. Huh?
Guy: It’s not different as far as I see. It is absolutely no different. So tell me, what are you doing, um, for, for information consumption at the moment? In terms of what’s going on with the Krone. Are you just checking once they, Oh, you wait until your, your neighbor tells you. Yeah.
Marcus: Well Oregon art. Can we segue my answer into your second point? Because I think this second point of of how to reduce the noise, it ties in very much to what we want to talk about next. Yeah. Powerful point to have been a powerful morning routine. So I think, not checking, not checking this, like the emails and social and news I think is, is massive. So for me, my morning routine is to get up and go for a walk. My mantra in life is there’s no place like out, which is really hard in this time of Dyson, but I love to get out and see the world. So I’ve got this, I’ve got my Runkeeper app and I go for a walk and I, and I listen, I listen to you. I listen to Jay Shetty, I listened to anything I want wanna do. This morning I listened to Chris Martin from Coldplay doing a Facebook live just playing. I saw that it wasn’t a lot, that he was nervous and a lot that he was making mistakes and he’s like, Oh my gosh, I’m making mistakes. It’s harder on Facebook live in a stadium. And I was like, I’m just going to listen to this today. Um, but I think that morning routine, and I know you’re, you’re talking about this as well, but you’ve got to keep yourself sacred in the morning routine. And a big part of that is avoiding and locking yourself out from the ex external world. Yeah.
Guy: Yeah. You gotta you gotta you gotta own yourself first. I think you’ve got to own yourself mentally, physically, and emotionally. Get yourself to a place where you’re, you’re in con, you’re in control of that. Cause there’s so much outside of ourselves when we’re not in control. But if we can actually go in with to a degree, have a routine that sets us up before we turn on the phone, before we do everything that like you think consuming the news and because there’s the scene, if you don’t fill up your cup first, you’re never going to be able to be that to support and fill out those. And the morning routine is something I’ve embodied now for God. Years, years, years and years. And uh, and without it, I mean we get, I don’t know if we want to get into the practices,
Marcus: I think we should because I’ve got four kids at home. So my no place like out is a really big thing for me. But, but you’ve got the opposite end where you’ve got a quiet house when you wake up. And I think for the people listening and watching, we have the perfect difference of scenarios. So why don’t you share what yours is? Because I think a lot of people and, and how you keep it sacred because I think that’s, that’s so important.
Guy: Yeah. Yeah. So I’ll normally get up either 5:00 AM or 5:30 AM for me, I’m, I’m, I’d find that my productivity goes through the roof in the morning towards the afternoon. Now we can have a conversation after this may, it’s lights out.
Marcus: So true. I’m so glad you say that because a lot of entrepreneurs don’t like saying it cause like the hustle is real. But seriously, the morning hours are 50 times more powerful than the AVO hours.
Guy: Totally. Totally. So I actually, like right now I’m actually kneeling, believe it or not, I have this stool and um, I don’t know if you could see that in camera. She always like, yeah. So what it does, it keeps me, so then I pop it up onto my hips and I’m here and I’m upright. I’m for somebody that can sit in Lotus. Like I’m the worst Yogi kind of ever. My hips just crease me. So I got this beautiful comfortable stool. So I’ll literally get up in the morning, go to the toilet, come back and I’ll sit in the stool. I put these headphones on, I’m in my own universal bubble right there. And what I will actually do is a body scan. I will check in how I’m emotionally starting to feel, where are my thoughts going? I’ll give you an example, right? I woke up when this all just kicked off, right?
Guy: We had to cancel Portugal retreat. I’m thinking, shit, Linda’s going to be given birth in three months. You know, all of a sudden I’m going through the initial grieving process. Cause the first thing I think everybody can agree with you. Roger said that, yeah, this is grief, right? So all of a sudden I’m grieving and I’m like fuck, you know, and, and I woke up in the morning, how am I alive? He’s meant to God. This is not what I had planned tomorrow. This is not on my goals list. And my whole body was just full of anxiety, anxiety. I cannot tell you how much I remember waking up just thinking, Oh my God. Like, and of course when you, when you feel a certain way, you’re going to start thinking equally to the way you feel. And if you don’t actually do anything with that and just assume that’s your reality, you’re going to see the entire day through that lens.
Guy: And if not, it’s going to manifest in ways that it’s going to continue to disempower you and all of a sudden you lost it. Hence why the morning routine. So for me it was, I was like, shit, this is game on. I’ve really got to work here. Like why, why am I, so the first thing I did was remove the questions. Why is this? It just is just letting, never going to get the answer, never going to get the answers. I could find a million reasons why it was going on, but then I would sit in my stool and then I would start to body scan and I actually feel into the areas where I’m feeling the knots and the anxiety. And then I actually breathe into there and now we’re really good tip for anyone. If they’re, without trying to get too complicated, you’ve got fight or flight, rest or repair, let’s keep it that simple.
Guy: So if you want to get into rest and repair quicker, cause obviously I’m in fight or flight, I’m already feeling anxious, my nervous system is firing up. You actually inhale out longer than you do on the inhale and that is proven to help bring your nervous system into rest and repair. So for instance, what I was doing, I was breathing in for three and then out for five and over time. And then I was feeling into the body, bringing my awareness to the body and then just working with that. And then from that point it allowed my body to actually settle down and I could feel the anxiety releasement and it was joyous. And then from there I actually have a gratitude practice. So I actually start to count my blessings and look at and feel into and visualize all the things that I have in my life that I’m so grateful for.
Guy: And then I’m actually producing a different chemical emotion that’s completely on the other end of the spectrum to the, the, the emotions of anxiety that I was feeling on that point. So for coming from that place, then what I’ve done is I’ve taken ownership of myself, my emotions, my feelings, my thoughts. I’ve taken control of empowered myself in that moment. And after 20 minutes I got up and all of a sudden I’m in a very different state is if I hadn’t interrupted that now, that allowed me then to lean into my day in a very different place, you know? Um, so there’s the, I play around with many different things and it should probably more than what this conversation’s about today.
Marcus: But for me that was huge. I think the flexibility is key though. I think that’s likely just that, that last point, um, for me and hopefully for the listeners and the viewers as well is, is massive. Like when I’m, I’m hearing you talk about that, I’m, I’m thinking of my own morning routines over the years. There were times particularly pre-kids that it was like, get up and meditate. Then do some yoga, make a green smoothie, do my gratitude journal, go for a walk, come back. Uh, you know, I have all of these different, you know, so many things. And then, uh, the more kids I had the other Capon chunking things off the list because I’ve had times where it’s been easy to get up at five o’clock in the morning and then there are times like I might the stage of life right now it’s just a lot harder only because, not not for me to get up, but uh, you’ve got kids waking up at random times and I need this and the one that I’m trying to protect Sarah as much as I can because we’ve got Spencer the eight month old and it’s almost not irresponsible, but it’s just not fair if I just, if I got up and all the rest of it.
Marcus: And I think like you said at the end is the flexibility. There are certain times where when your baby’s born, you know, the day after your baby’s born, it’s going to be non impossible to get up at five o’clock cause you probably already going to be awakened five o’clock cause you, but the thing is, what I’m saying is that it’s the flexibility with the morning routine that is so key because as life unfolds and changes and through the different seasons and three different outcomes that you have, the, the, the, the, the habits or the things that you include in your morning routine, I think, uh, so different as well. Sometimes you do. I know there’s times where I just want to sit down and meditate. Others, there’s times I want to go and jump in the ocean. I, there’s, I want to get on my bike.
Marcus: I want to go faster than a walk, but not as fast as, uh, you know, sometimes I want to go for a run. I think it’s that, I think, uh, personally is, it’s, it’s giving time to yourself. If you’ve got a jug and you wake up in the morning and you’re there and you’re giving I want, and you’re just giving to everyone else. As soon as you wake up in the morning and you’re giving to your kids and you’re giving it to your spouse and you’re giving to the news and you give it to everyone and then you’ve got an empty jug, you’re bitter and twisted by eight o’clock you’re just empty. Totally. You know, and it’s like you can’t, and a lot of people, sadly, then they rock up to work like that and then they go, I don’t love my job, my job. I’m like, but really like if you could just have a greater morning routine, which is why it’s so sacred, perhaps you would bring a bit of version of you to work, which means you would perhaps get on better with the staff and be more resilient and be more empathetic. And I just think it cannot be understated how powerful that morning routine is.
Guy: It’s massive. But the difficulty is inertia, right? It’s getting up momentum. It’s actually trusting in the process because we get so conditioned by the way we [inaudible]
Marcus: we feel and we stopped perceiving. You know, we only, we only see reality equal to the way we think in feeling
Guy: period. Whatever is going on in the internal world is the way we’re reading the situations out externally 100% right. So you’re constantly having this bias feedback
Marcus: and, and it’s changing all the time in terms of as you grow and develop as a human being. Yeah. It’s kinda like I think about your reality in three months time I think you find, and all parents say this, you find gears that you never knew existed. You find mental, emotional and spiritual capacities. And for someone that loves this stuff, I feel like you’ll be in your element when you have a child because you’ll realize a love you never knew existed within you. And a capacity to live on as on on little hours of sleep. Like all of this stuff I think is incredible. But I think that that flexibility, what, what, what would concern me, and I know this one happened to you, is but the parents particularly that go, Oh I used to have a morning routine and then I had children. I’m like, no, that’s not the time to give it up. That’s the time that it’s more important than ever. Yeah. You know, that’s the time when your kids as a, as a monkey see monkey do. They want parents that value themselves. Cause then you don’t want to be bitter and twisting on, Oh well I’d love to do yoga but you kids keep me here. Or that. It’s like what example does that sit? You know, that’s not, that’s not the way it is. So I think it’s so important to be flexible and committed and absolutely committed. Like you said, despite the inertia.
Guy: Yeah. Well now, now at the end of the day, there’s never been a greater time to to I reckon throw in a morning routine, try something different. Starts looking at different ways that you can start to be empowered in the morning and try not to check the news first thing in the morning.
Marcus: Yeah, well I’m just [inaudible] my mind, my Corona morning routine, I’ve just added in a bunch of 30 day challenges to make into a workout, like a 30 day pushup challenge, a 30 day squat challenge, lunch challenge, blah blah blah blah. So and no music, no rah rah, no anything. Just quiet downstairs in the dark and just gently move before I go for the walk and I’m going, well if it may be locked down, I’ll go for longer than 30 days or whatever. I’m an optimistic guy, but um, now’s the time as you just said to play with it. You know, all bets are off at the moment. You don’t have to go into traffic. The people that were commuting for one to three hours a day, I loving this time cause they feel like they’ve got all this extra time and I’m like good on them.
Marcus: Like, imagine not having that three hour, 15 hours a week in the car that you no longer have to do. I know, I know, I know. And are whinge about the farmer’s market and the line there. You know, you think about, uh, what people have been able to get out of this in a good way is wonderful. Totally. Well, let’s get into 0.3 0.3. Choose your media wisely. I think we touched on this in 0.1, but this is not the time to default to more news. It’s not the time to default to more. Netflix is not the time to default to more trashy mags. This is a time to think about what you want to consume. So I know a great podcast called the guy Lawrence podcast. Um, I, you know, I think it’s great time to learn new podcasts too. Do you want to learn a language?
Marcus: Do you want to do online programs? I know guy, you’ve got so much free content at the moment. I think it’s a great time to, uh, read the books, read the books that you’ve just never got into. Read new books. I was talking to a mutual friend of ours Bronnie ware just earlier today and she told me about Ken Follett. I said, I’ve been reading some, you know, world war II love stories and Sarah loves all the Outlander series and I’m looking at something just a bit, you know, she’s like more historical fiction. I’m like, yeah. She’s like Ken followed him on. Never heard of him, but yeah, sure. Like now’s the time to choose what you want to learn. Watch the movies in the doco is that will build you up inspired and spy. I’m just looking at all the different ranges of books he like do doing new stuff.
Marcus: Don’t go into more of the comfort zone. Like you don’t have to really, I mean maybe you’ve been, okay, here’s the alternative example. Maybe you’ve been working 80 hour weeks and you’ve never watched a, now what’s a series of people maybe you’ve always wanted to watch. Go, go on, go on. Do you know how it works? The other night I always wanted to watch the godfather. There you go. So that’s something. Okay. I’ve never watched it either. This is the time. If you’ve never watched called fiction, now is the time to watch a movie you’ve never watched. I would say cause only watch Schindler’s list maybe 18 months ago if you’ve never watched Schindler’s list going. What? Shingles? Let’s look at the Oscar winning movies. The epics. Yeah, so, so what’s his name? Bobby Douglas. His dad. Kirk Douglas died recently aged 103 I think he was. He was in, I think it was citizen Kane.
Marcus: Citizen Kane is largely considered the greatest movie ever. I’ve never watched it. I still haven’t watched it, but I want to, this is the time to go and like consume the epics. I’ll be biased and say this is the time to go and raid lame is that our blow Victor Hugo’s hunchback of Notradame more and paste and in that you never thought you would ever consume. This is the time. You’ve got no excuses. If you can commute three hours a day, bang, you can watch the gold. But there’s this, there’s a trap though, isn’t it? Don’t you think that like, because there’s so much, so much space in our day that we can actually just start filling it all with like stop drinking more wine every night and then all of a sudden one glass becomes three and the next area. But that’s the stuff that you’ve already been doing. Not that you have, I quit yesterday.
Marcus: I’m like our default to more of the sign. Exactly. And this is the time to, I’m just looking at random books like, you know, I haven’t read you, you, I’m sure you’ve read this, I haven’t read this for young Scott. The self esteem prophecy. Oh, what a book. I haven’t read it for yonks and unlike, I always go, you know those books that you like, will I read it a second time, but you’ve got so many books on your book list. You like art and I want to read something new, something new, something new. Like this is the time to reread a book because you’ll be so busy in six months when the world’s back to normal and what? You won’t give yourself that opportunity. But this is the time if you wanted to learn French or I don’t know any kind of language like get in there.
Guy: Yeah, no it’s great. I mean I’ve been um, trialing like different online class physical classes every day as well. Cause normally I go do yoga. I used to do weights and like I like the smaller jumped on my mates, um, movement, surf movement session. I always wanted to do one but I could never get up to them in the gold course. And he was running one this morning. I’m like, right, I’m going to try this and try something new. And, and I found myself like, wow, I loved it. I would never have done it.
Marcus: Yup. That’s it. Do all the things that you would never normally do. And I think particularly online, there are so many, um, online membership similar to yours guide that are giving people trials or even just open access. I haven’t, so, you know, and again, I know there’s a commercial element to it. Chris Hemsworth’s work out, uh, I think it’s called center. You know, they’re giving free access for a period of time. Our mutual Senate friends, the MerryMakers and giving away Mary body per a period of time. Like there’s so many people doing great things at this time to give it away. And that’s just two or three examples. There are so many people, but I also think like, I’m one of the notes was I making here. Um, I feel like there’s a couple of things, but you know, online on just online courses, books, movies, documentaries, but on your terms, stuff that you’ve been wanting to, to consume, you know, cause everyone will be offering you their stuff, but it’s, what do you want? I don’t think meditation is a pur, isn’t this guy the perfect time to go? What excuse do I have to commit to a meditation practice or just to really lean into a meditation practice right now?
Guy: Totally. There’s never look in my, I might be slightly biased, but there’s, but there’s never been a greater time to learn this work. But the, the, the, the, the difficulty is sometimes if you’re operating from a, you know, a place of fear, stress and anxiety, which you can be in these times cause you, you’re feeding into the consumption and you just perpetuate in a loop. It almost seems like a, it seems like a further, further, further away, a far off distant concept in our, I mean, and it’s actually just getting somebody in there to have these experience like we run. Um, my good friend Matt Omar run a sound session last night and it was fucking brilliant. We had 160 onlines we’re live in, right? And every turned up. And it was great for me because I could just sit back, support mat and just not have to think to be doing nothing and just enjoy this. And it was phenomenal. Like there was so many people in there that just had this experience for the first time that they could actually embody and, and actually start to get the concept, you know, and it’s just Ugh.
Marcus: And when you’re thirsty to learn, it’s a wonderful thing. And yes, there’ll be speed bumps away along the way where you realize there’s a lot to learn, but you know, if you’ve got a thirst for anything, now is the time to follow it. Totally. Totally. Why don’t you go on to step number four,
Guy: creating circuit breakers? Yeah, yeah. So again, I’m very mindful of this. I kind of touched on this earlier for me, and again, we will come out of this from probably different angles because of the situations in life, but, but for me it’s very important to check in during the day to see where I’m at with myself, you know? You know, it’s funny, I was only thinking about this yesterday, but different analogies as well as like daydreaming about stories, analogies and things I would share on podcasts and stuff. And you know the movie avatar? Yes. I loved it. I loved it.
Marcus: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s great. Yeah. I’m, I must watch it again in, during the Corona.
Guy: Yeah. Not the one for the list, but I kind of stuck, I have a relationship with myself literally like an avatar. So the way I look at it is like I have a body and there’s me in it like an avatar, almost like a driver in a car and this body, quite often misbehaves does things that it’s been trained to do over time. Over the years or from the way I’ve lived my life that my, you know, circumstances, things, everything’s happened is literally been given my body certain information to behave in a certain way. So quite often it does things that I don’t agree with up here, divide, right? And most of the time it goes unconscious through the day and you’re done unconscious patterns, your thinking, your feeling, you fixate in you, you, you actually end up fixating on problems and things and you’ve, it just becomes something like this can come like this.
Guy: Just like I woke up in that anxiety and I’m so aware of that now I like to rise above it, like rising above the rain clouds and taking a look. What’s the weather doing down there? How is it? How’s the stall? How’s the wind? How’s everything happening within my body avatar because I have a, I keep, it helps me think about keeping a separation from it. And I’m not actually the storm. I’m not actually the fee. You know what I mean? There’s another part to it. Absolutely. I’m of course, I don’t know. But you’d be quite often you can fear the anxiety in the fear if depending on who you talk to and what things are going on. I only had a conversation with someone the other day and I was like, shit, I could feel it. Anxiety coming off, you know? And
Marcus: yeah, that’s this whole, um, uh, I don’t think we’ll get into it too much today, but just that social connection is now is the time to really keep, keep a, a what, not keep tabs on, but to protect your own self, there’s a lot of fear and anxiety around. So yeah, those conversations and sometimes you don’t know the people that you don’t expect to be in that fear and anxious place are often incredibly fearful and anxious. And your wall, like this conversation is spiraling out of control very quickly.
Guy: Totally. Right. And, and that’s fine. I’m, I’m there to support. But it’s funny, you know, when I, people tend, because of what I do, people tend to open up in different ways. Right? Download. So, so, um, but the point being is that I, I’ve continually remind him to check myself during the day just to tune in. What’s the weather station doing right now? Where am I? And even the practices that I do in the morning, I will bring in into the day sometimes, but I know we’ll touch on movement in a sec is a great circuit breaker, right? So setting an alarm clock three times a day, just, you could be in the middle of 70 could be fixated and an alarm goes off and it’s, Oh shit, let me stop. I mean the moment am I right now? Is this good or do I actually need to get off my ass and move the body and come back to to that, you know, and cause I have such an entrained practice over the years, it really serves me now and it stops me deviating too far off one way and making something worse than what it actually is.
Guy: Like a chatting to bill Bennett on the podcast last and he was making a film on fear. You know, we have perceived fear so we have imaginary fear and then we have actually real fear and it’s been able to distinguish the two. And I’ve a very, um, kind of levelheaded approach to what’s actually going on cause we can lose that very quickly. Yeah,
Marcus: absolutely. And I think, um, it’ll be interesting the, the documentaries and movies that come out of the end of this time as well as, I mean, that is going to be incredibly powerful. But even the conversation we have around it, the circuit breaker one’s interesting. I feel, um, like you said that it’s easy once you’ve got a practice to uh, to have that circuit breaker almost like as a, as a, as a habit. I find sometimes I get depending on what’s happening in the day but almost get wound up like an Energizer bunny. And if I don’t have a circuit breaker, which for me is often going for a swim in the ocean. It’s like an imagine you having too much energy. Marcus, you know how I don’t know about you and some people want to lecture me about this, but if you’re writing emails, sometimes I don’t breathe when I’m typing, I’m just madly typing away and then I go, Oh a lot she reads.
Marcus: I just went into like a Oh you know, and you need like, like I said, an alarm or a circuit breaker. So for me mine is definitely NYCHA. As simple as I live like a one minute bike ride from the beach. So just to get on the Bach, go down the beach, hop in the water, think about maybe think about like often if I’m struggling, you know how we said about the afternoon is not your willpower is not at its peak. I’ve got to like chunk things down into literally five minute task and I’ll put an alarm on of a lot five minutes so that I can just keep on track. Marcus, you can do this but I think often, um, the circuit breaker, like getting on a bike, going down to the beach or going for a walk where there’s a of trees, sometimes even not taking the phone and just go for a walk and doing the deep breathing.
Marcus: Uh, having recently been in a breathing workshop with you in February and just, and being a part of a group of 30 people, like can’t underestimate the power of breath as a circuit breaker. Whether you do it sitting quietly, whether you go for a walk in nature, however you do it just it’s highly likely that the why you brave during your work time and in the way you breathe during your circuit breaker time are very different. And so I think however you choose to break the circuit, I think the breath is a key part of that. In any case,
Guy: it’s massive, it’s massive and it’s one I always turned to the breath is the first thing you’ll always turn to. I believe, you know, I can condition that breathing in such a conscious way and it just gets you out of the program and it really, it gets you back to being in the conscious mind. Like, you know, he would, if you had Bruce Lipton talk about, uh, the fact that we’re running on 90 95% of the day, all our thoughts, feelings, emotions that we exhibit is coming from the unconscious mind. It’s just train behavior, blah, blah, blah, blah. We’ve got really fucking good at it.
Marcus: There’s one other thing which we got really, really good at. I’m somebody who used to swearing on podcasts. So I’m normally, I love hearing you, but I’m not, I’m not sorry that I’m not a [inaudible] today. I rarely swear to be honest, one thing that we’ve become terrible at also is I’m eating on the run. So for me, a circuit breaker, a great second record, particularly so many kids at home at the moment is just after this interview, I will go and have lunch with the family if they haven’t already eaten it. And that just completely dials down my whole body, particularly if we do a little blessing or a couple of gratitudes before we ate. I’m doing some deep breathing. Just do it. Take three deep breaths before eating naturally. We spoke about earlier going into restaurant repair, taking three deep breaths. I find genuinely why better on digestion ate more slowly than the mouthfuls a chew chewing more. They’re great ways just to tone it down, um, and break the circuit. So I think that’s a great, whether it’s morning tea, lunch, whatever it is, I just think it’s a great, great way to just slow the pace down and change it up.
Guy: I mean it must be different for you. You must be enjoying the fact that you can have lunch with your family right now. Well,
Marcus: I think so. Social eating is why better than having a non-IRA social social 18, maybe they’re hungry, they’re hangry. I’ve got a new word. It’s called hanged. Grammatic hungry, angry. And it’s so melodramatic because of their hunger that they just dial it up. Um, particularly when I’m recording, apologies listeners and viewers. Um, I think realize we’ve been talking for 45 minutes. It’s incredible, isn’t it? My podcast fly, Oh, let let fly into the last three cause they are otherwise, I know you and I being friends will be here all day, but movement, I think movement is just a great state breaker, great circuit breaker, great for energy, great for feelings of vitality. A guy, you’re probably a lot better talking about this professionally, but I know anecdotally when I move, I’m way better up here in my heart spiritually. Um, no matter the movement, I think any movement is great. Just just moving in ways that you love. Uh, when all look, a lot of longevity culture’s movement is key. Whether it’s the gardening, um, jumping in the ocean, go for a walk, yoga, whatever it is, but there’s no doubt that movement is a great way to reduce, uh, reduce the noise.
Guy: Totally. And I also think as well, there’s never been a greater time to explore different things that you wouldn’t do because then you can bring in a mental aspect. Uh, you can bring in a breathing aspect to it and actually start to reconnect and become more consciously aware of what you’re doing. That’s why I love learning new things.
Marcus: So you’re doing yoga for the itch of the next 30 days. Okay.
Guy: There’s probably still a lot I thought, but I thought I couldn’t release my hips before if you’d seen me five years ago. Like, ah, I’m just the guy watering the day. But yeah, look, it’s crucial. We all know that. And um, the one thing that I w I would say with movement as well, or there’s two different things. You’ve got movement, but then you’ve got exercise and the two very different things, cause I know from um, you know from the my old stuff be the PTs, stuff like that, you’d have people that come in and train three times a week. They go hard, they pushed it and then they sit in their ass for eight hours a day, the Lipset entry lifestyles. And the reality is you’re better off actually trying to find lots of pockets of movement through the day constantly. And then bringing in little bits of stresses here and there from that as well.
Marcus: So I think you’re introducing me to the work of Dr. John Hart, who was he? His numbers were, I think three hours a day of standing now for people that are watching this stand up desks all the way. Um, lots of movement. You’re able to actually get in as much as you can, but I think, like you said, you don’t want to just exercise for a little bit and a presidentially the rest of the time. But I think that definition is something that a lot of people are still getting used to or or adjusting. So because anything we’ve been indoctrinated in an exercise lost all or forgotten about. Yeah. Gardening or even just cleaning the house or incidental movement. People are still obsessed with getting close to the supermarket doors and not taking the stairs and still doing the elevators. I’m like, no, we’re gonna make life a little bit harder for ourselves. Not easy. Like shouldn’t we be parking the car in the back corner of the supermarket car park and holding two uneven bags or you know, inviro bags, people um, you know, and making it a little bit tricky rather than making everything so easy. Physically
Guy: it’s perfectly, I always love the term, use stress to heal stress. Like it’s so critical, like actually doing nothing is a stress on the body over time. It’s a low Sentry stress and everything starts to atrophy and everything starts to break down. Use it or lose it literally. So if we can actually bring in different many varying things as possible though, that just take us past our comfort zone a bit. It doesn’t mean we have to go way out here and smash ourselves and do 10,000 reps and all this stuff that you see on YouTube and everything. Yeah. But it’s literally about you watch on YouTube, it’s back in my CrossFit days mate. You know, if you watched CrossFit and YouTube, you assume everyone’s Olympic athlete when they went, you know. But um, but it’s about it for me then it’s about creating as much variety as possible. Keep the party working, keep the gas in and, and from that stimulus it creates a mood and a positivity that’s second to none. I know that
Marcus: one thing, I know we’re going to the next point, but uh, we went to minion falls the other week for people up in Northern rivers or no, getting into nature whilst we still can, getting into nature, like getting, going for a hike is everything that we’re talking about here and everything that you talk about guy, I feel like it just puts all the pieces of the puzzle together, particularly if you do it with someone or, or others that you love. I know if you’re all in the same house, you’re allowed to. So if you’ve got six in your family or you live with Linda, you can go together and you’re, you’re in the confines of the law. But that’s a great place. Breathing, fresh air, breathing, moving nature. Like it’s just a massive win-win perspective when you go and places like that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. All right, so the penultimate step, this is a great one by you rip it up and start again. I love it. I just love it. Tell the listeners in the viewers what you mean by that.
Guy: Again, every time. All right. I, I’m, I’m aware of the time, but when I look at all the things that are, that, that, um, in my life that I’ve moved towards something that has given me so much more purpose, more meaning, more joy, more creativity, more life. Like, like literally I want to get up in the morning and bring things. It’s normally come from a place of stuckness, adversity, difficulty. And like we’ve talked about earlier, this, I’ve had to reach in a little bit deeper and see things or reveal something within me that I didn’t always there and look at it through through a new set of eyes. Um, I always look and try and bring a beginner’s mindset into everything I do. Now, is this a beginner’s mind? How can I see this for the first time and not bring all that stuff? We’re in it.
Guy: So what I’m finding, and that’s why we’ve been able to move and adopt, I think without too much stress that’s going on, is to be able to go, okay, things are moving. The goalpost, the change in my, my alignment, my heart, I know is all in this direction. There’s things I want to do, but let’s try something new. Let’s throw that out. It’s served me. I’ve learned that I’ll do it by something like those spaghetti on the wall, but we can bring that mentality into the small things, into the exercise like we spoke about into our routines. Can we, can we change it up? Let’s rip up the house. Let’s renovate, let’s do things. Let’s actually create a new energy around whatever it is a been, has it been stagnant for a long time? Eh?
Marcus: Yeah. This is the thing you can, you can tackle these from a, a physical material level like ripping the hat, like say how many people are doing renovations right now and decluttering to the max, which I think is great. Like on a physical material level you might be looking at, we just spoke about with movement like rip up, don’t rip your body up, but like rip up all your limiting beliefs about I can’t do this and I’m too old for that and I’m too fat for this and I’m not strong enough for that. Rip it all up and literally start again with a beginner’s mindset. Gave that curiosity, unleashed that curiosity and start something again in full force and could be even the bigger, deeper meaningful stuff around work in Korea. Maybe you are going to rip up the job. Maybe you’ve been redundant and you won’t go back into the same industry.
Marcus: Um, maybe you will literally will start again. Like, this is a time where all bets are off. The canvas is as blank as you will allow it to be. And the more you’re willing to challenge your beliefs, the more, uh, spice your prepared to create. There’s a great line many of you would have heard of before, but in order to create the space for something new, you’ve got to remove the clutter. You’ve got to remove something out of your house or your life or your environment in order to create the space for whatever it is that you want to bring in or let in. So, you know, it’s an exciting, it’s an exciting time when you have that belief and it’s, as I said, all bets are off. There are no limits to that belief except no limits that we, that we put on ourselves.
Guy: Totally. Totally. I was just seeing, so we’ve got a few more comments coming in. Escort. Hey Shannon. Hey shank.
Marcus: I’ve been looking at them. I wasn’t sure what to say cause I know this is a your podcast, but I’m looking at shines. I’m loving this. I’m like, Oh. So I was glad to get some good feedback in Sharon as well and Fluor and Ava. Um, alright, now the last one. This is yours. This is your baby, which I’m very big on. Um, gratitude, practice, gratitude practice, and it’s spot in the world at the moment. This is big, isn’t it?
Guy: Yeah, it’s, it’s massive. And again, I can only speak from my own experience, um, and being in times of adversity and difficulty that I’ve felt like my whole world was caving in and I had nowhere to turn. Um, it was a gratitude practice that got me through these things and been able to find that beauty from, with what I have to receive. And you know, having worked with, you know, literally probably thousands of people now and I’m helping them to see their own beauty and certain things that they have on a daily basis. It’s massive because we condition ourselves to see the world in a different way. And for me, what a gratitude practices done and it doesn’t have to be much, but what it’s done is allow me to, to, to be my own happiness generator. If you like that, that I don’t look for the external things to try
Marcus: and fulfill something that’s already within me. So it stops me from leaning into consumerism and stops me leaning into the things are, if I have that, I can then fulfill a need that there’s an emotion that’s already within me. And again, it comes down to body awareness and being able to become of a deeper relationship with your avatar, the beast that runs wild by itself and coming back to that and evoke those emotions and feelings and, and train the body that you all have your, it’s already there, it’s already there and it helps me stay present. So I have a practice every day, like part of my morning routine is to finish on gratitude and this to finish in there. And I know that sympathetic and part of that fight or flight, rest or repair, it’s the heart that actually influences that autonomic nervous system and the homeostasis.
Marcus: So if you can actually bring all your awareness to that place and breathe into that place of your heart, you can continue to stimulate that. And then you can create emotions from that place. So as you can imagine when you get into your day, it’s very different as if I just got up from that state of anxiety and just, you know, and then you just try it into an and almost on autopilot, like you said, 90 to 95% just going on autopilot. Mine is definitely not as thorough as yours. A great man. But what I would like to talk about on this level is, is the importance of gratitude. Um, the in-person, like, like being grateful when you buy the bread, being grateful. When you see your partner in the morning, don’t just say hi or you know, what’s for breakfast. It’s just showing gratitude when someone makes you a meal, when at any point it’s a, I think Martin Seligman spoke about the, the most powerful way to the most, the biggest power of gratitude is expressing your gratitude.
Marcus: Like looking into someone’s eyes, which is really a lot harder than I do have on my phone. A little doc, a Google doc, you know, three things I’m grateful for each day. That’s so easy. You know, actually keeping a journal, writing it down is yeah, yeah, it’s good. But it’s easy isn’t it? Yes. So I think that’s a, being able to like give someone a hug. The gratitude that’s hard is, is, is sharing your heart and soul with someone in person and being like deeply emotional. You might even get a bit teary and it’s very, it’s almost won’t be embarrassing cause you’re gonna lose it, you know? But if it comes from a place that’s unconditional, there’s no agenda behind it. It’s genuinely, I want to connect with the soul right now and, and have a connection. It can be fleeting, it can be anything, but it’s, it’s that consistency that I believe helps you live.
Marcus: See, optimism starts to see the world through a different lens. And as you see the world for different lands, you see a much more opportunity as opposed to obstacles. And you know what I love? Yeah. And then you see a way through. I think I’m just even hearing you and I talk about it, we have different, uh, while we lean into different elements of gratitude, I think the, the important part is that there is a holistic nature to gratitude. If you just sit in the morning and thinking about gratitude, but then you’re not grateful in your daily life. And God, you and I’ve spoken about this about, you know, people that meditate and they still behave like tools throughout the day. It’s like, well, you know, that’s not really quite holistic. I think, you know, it’s wise to write your gratitude down or pen and paper, you know, that’s important because if you can’t do that and you just Bob that off, then, then you need to develop the small muscles, the medium muscles and the big muscles you want to be able to do as God’s doing and be able to sit down and literally bring it all in and be grateful for your arms and your legs and your eyes and your ears and your hair and the fact that you’ve got 32 teeth or however many.
Marcus: Maybe you don’t have that many, but the fact that you’ve got a belly button cause it used to feed you and when you’re in the womb and you know, then we might be living in Corona world, but gosh, we’ve got this incredible body is wild stallion has guys calling it or whatever, you know, um, we’ve got so much to be grateful for but we don’t want to end it. There we went. We then want to express that gratitude to people that we come into contact with and don’t fake it. No one locks by gratitude. The thing is we can see it right through people as well. We’re all smart enough to know when it’s not authentic, but you want to be able to incorporate it. So that is a, it is a holistic gratitude rather than a tactical or a technical gratitude, so to speak. And we’re getting some great comments in here. Legend. Great discussion. Gee, I’ll Mark is your energy is electric. Thank you Robin. I used to have a nickname called electric blue contact lenses in my brain analyzing. I was very materialistic. And what’s the word? Metro. In my early days. And uh, and, and a radio colleague of mine, those in Melbourne, that mailer football, Gary Lyon, he gave me the term electric electric blue. So thank you Robert. That’s very, very [inaudible].
Guy: Doesn’t, that doesn’t surprise me at all. I, it doesn’t surprise me.
Marcus: Yeah, go on now you kind of fired off those seven. Be aware of the way the media works. Powerful morning routine, choose your media wisely, have a circuit breaker, the power of movement. Rip it up and start again. I love, I love that gratitude practice. We’ve kind of covered off so many things, but I think we mentioned it at the beginning. I’d love to know, cause I know you’re not talking about it off air a lot. Like can you just be clear, I don’t know if this is your podcast, so a lot of people probably already know, but maybe just for the people when I share this as well, all the stuff that you’ve got going on, um, that people can, can access to because I hopefully after this chat people are going to be wanting a lot more of, um, of what you share.
Guy: Yeah, no, absolutely. So right now I have been working ferociously alongside Matt Omo and Petro [inaudible] who I facilitate the retreats with and we’ve literally put a, um, a global online free event that’s happening right now all the way through April. And, uh, if people want to join us, like I said, we had 160 turn up last night, where
Marcus: 300 turn up on Petras meditation the other day. Uh, it’s been phenomenal. Um, so it, if they come back to live in flow.co and, uh, there’ll be able to find the, uh, the registration link from there if they want to come and join us on, uh, learn a little bit more about this work. Absolutely. And you legend because you’ve obviously had to make some adjust Justman set them off lot of events that we’ve had to [inaudible]. So we had three, three events, like a, a mini road show, um, called the wellness base camp in Jalong Camden, just South of Sydney and in Canberra, which was due for may the second. Um, so essentially for all of those, uh, 10 days, but now as one of the benefits of, of this world without borders, we’ve turned that event into an online event, which is actually happening this Saturday called crosses to confidence.
Marcus: We’ve put all of the speakers from the wellness base camp together into this love of it. It’s funny, you look at the speakers and everyone fits their own niche. We’ve got Kim Morrison talking about certainty and love. She does a lot in the four personalities, like the peaceful, the playful, the precise, and the powerful. And you know, you might live in a house where you might be a powerful, but then you live with a peaceful and you’re spending all of this time with them and like a war. So, you know, how do you navigate that during this? Isolation’s fine. So should we be talking about love and how do you, I’m so grateful. I met Kim for the first time, obviously at your event of who we are and she’s just a legend. And for those and a lot of crickets, she is the waterfall of the great New Zealand at Denny Morrison.
Marcus: Um, now and then, uh, uh, Jason Witten who has positive real estate and he’s a great financial mentor who I’ve known many men at Tony Robbins event back in 2006. Um, he’s talking about how to craft financial security in these uncertain times. And so naturally with, I think it’s about 30% of the population are either without jobs or on a massively reduced income right now. Uh, I think everyone’s relationship with money will forever change, hopefully based, uh, as a result of this event. So as a result of the, the Corona. So I think, um, that’s going to be a really important conversation. Um, I’ll be talking about community, uh, but I’d also want to talk about Korea clarity cause I feel like it’s a really important time to have clarity on all of the, are you going to get back to what you’ve been doing or is it now time to look at something new?
Marcus: Um, Brent Hill, my wellness coach teammate, talking about mental and emotional and physical resilience during this time. And then Cindy O’Meara from changing habits, she’s going to come in and talk about how to create impeccable immunity that is obviously a hot topic at this time for people of all ages. But or even just, and I don’t know about you guy, but isn’t it interesting now health and wellness and immunity is not going away. These term luxury lifestyle that we all do probably going to be luck. Right? Immunity’s important. You know. So Cindy will be talking about, you know, things like creating a home and garden. I like seedlings are selling like not no one’s business, which is great. Talking about just immune boosting, um, whole foods and the basics of immunity. So they’re the five topics in this crisis. The competence one day, um, it’s $49 and it’s all at the wellness base.
Marcus: camp.com. So they want us basecamp.com crosses to competence. It’s on this Saturday, but it will be like lifetime access for people if they can’t see it on Saturday. But to access it forever. So 49 bucks, I think it’s goes for eight hours. So it’s not free, but it is about five bucks an hour. I think the people that come along.
Guy: Sounds incredible. It’s why it’s what’s needed right now, mate. That’s the most little thing.
Marcus: Yeah. So I think, you know, for people like you and I it’s easy for us to say, but I think our messages at the moment and now are more important than what they’ve ever been. Um, and this is time, you know, you and I have had conversations and this, I put a lot of my eggs in the live event basket because I’m a raging extrovert. I love real live human connection.
Marcus: But this time has really taught me the power of digital engagement, the power of relationship building in the online space. And I’m thoroughly enjoying it. You know, I was so grateful when you called the other day ago. Do you want to do a live together? I’m like, yes. Like anything, we’re bit of human connection phase, so you know, love it. So I really appreciate the invitation and I’m definitely going gonna return it. You’re going to come on your exceptional. If you’d if you partake, if you accept my invitation and we’ll talk about all manner of things cause we really, let’s be honest, I’ve only just begun.
Guy: Yes, I know, I know, mate. I know. Mate look thank you so much for coming on. And that was incredible, it’s a, it’s always a pleasure talking to you mate. Every time I leave I feel 10 feet taller and before I sat down after chatting to you mate,
Marcus: the feelings are mutual. You’re very calming for me. Guy. I can listen to you. Uh, we had someone at our recent event where you came and were in the flesh. Someone was just, what’s the word? Like not fan gazing or star. No, I don’t want to say, Oh no, I’m not going to sway. Not start F bombing as we used to call it to me. But she was sorry, she was fan-girling she goes fan-girling. And that’s it. Guy Lawrence, it’s Guy Lawrence and, and just to paint the picture for people. Guy did a meditation in a dark room at five o’clock in the morning and the attendees didn’t know, um, who, like we surprised them. We didn’t say who the, who the facilitator was. And then she heard your voice and she almost melted. And I was like, I love it. So you’re a bit like that for me too. I hear you talking. I’m like. Huh! It’s very calming. So thanks for what you do, mate. I love what you do.
Guy: Thanks, legend. We’ll catch you soon.
Marcus: Thanks guys.
Guy: Thank you. Bye bye. Thanks everyone on Facebook Live.
Marcus: Thanks for coming.
Guy: Thank you. See? Ohh it’s Robin. Hey Robin.
Marcus: on to Sharon.