#188 This week, I’m here with the amazing RJ Spina. RJ is an educator that teaches the higher consciousness, metaphysics of self-healing and self-realization. After a lethal infection in his spine left him paralyzed from the chest down, RJ withdrew into himself to heal. And within a year of his injury, he succeeded in healing himself from a paralysis thought to be permanent. During our conversation today, we discuss the incredible story of how RJ was able to heal himself and what advice he gives to people wishing to command their own fates. We also discuss the ego and its role, how we can be in command of our own lives, and how the cycle of everyday stress can be broken.
If you are someone who feels out of alignment with your heart, then this is the episode for you.
“Don’t think outside the box, remove the box. Now, you can do anything that you set your intention to do.”
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About RJ: RJ Spina is an educator and has been an avid meditator for well over twenty years and has taught countless people this sacred practice. In early 2016, RJ became deathly ill. A lethal infection had gotten into his spine, crushing it, causing permanent paralysis from the chest down despite taking a two-month course of very strong antibiotics. He required emergency surgery and remained hospitalized for 2 months.
Upon awakening, literally and figuratively from surgery, he told everyone he would heal himself not only from being permanently paralysed from the chest down but from the multiple diseases including hypothyroidism, diabetes, Hashimoto’s auto immune disease and autonomic dysreflexia. Within one year, has accomplished exactly that. He is no longer paralysed and shows no indications of any of the diseases he was diagnosed with and takes absolutely no medications. Even the mystery lethal infection that months of antibiotics could not cure have been resolved.
Key points with time stamp:
- Overcoming Chest Down Paralysis with Mediation (00:00)
- Teaching the metaphysics of self-healing (00:13)
- What is self-realization and how can it be achieved? (01:21)
- The story of RJ’s permanent paralysis (09:21)
- Do dire circumstances have to be permanent life sentences? (12:49)
- Are support systems absolutely crucial during difficult moments? (15:44)
- How can people do the impossible for themselves? (18:56)
- The biggest obstacle against commanding our own destiny (20:28)
- The purpose of the ego (22:46)
- How can you use the ego to serve YOU? (24:27)
- What is the first action we can take to heal? (27:15)
- To what extent do our minds affect our bodies? (30:15)
- Breaking the cycle of stress in our day to day lives (33:35)
- How do you know when you’re in alignment with the self? (37:28)
- Can anyone reach high levels of self-realization and alignment? (40:27)
- Is death really the end? (42:47)
- RJ’s daily routine (46:48)
- Can achieving higher consciousness fit into your daily routine? (48:02)
- “As yourself: what am I trying to achieve?” (51:02)
Mentioned in this episode:
- Anita Moorjani
- Roger Bannister
- Wayne Dyer
Please note, this is an automated transcript so it is not 100% accurate.
RJ, Welcome to the podcast.
Thank you for having me, Guy. My pleasure.
I asked everyone on the show very simple question when starting, and that is, if we were at an intimate dinner party right now. And you sat next to a complete stranger, and they asked you what you did for a living? What would you say?
That’s a good question. I would say, I would say that I teach the higher consciousness, metaphysics of self healing and Self Realisation.
What kind of reaction Do you normally get?
What does that mean? Right? What what? Yeah, that that kind of the self healing is probably pretty self explanatory, so to speak, but the Self Realisation self actualization. This is where we get into sort of like deep esoteric like that. There’s such a strong correlation guy between self healing and Self Realisation. They’re not, from my perspective, they’re not the exact same thing. But they are certainly there’s a symbiotic relationship between those two things. Yeah, I
couldn’t agree more. And, you know, what occurred to me then is that if, what is Self Realisation mean? Because if you haven’t realised who you truly are, or what you’re truly capable of, and this never occurred to you, then how do you define that?
Well, for me, I define self reliance, Self Realisation, and enlightenment, from my perspective, are the same thing. Now, my tangible experience with this is Self Realisation and or enlightenment is the direct connection with what’s been called the higher self. Right. So as a soul as an aspect as a piece of the higher self, when we realise the higher self, we realised that we are a part of a much larger being, and we are connected to this much larger thing. And it gives us access to tremendous wisdom, tremendous knowledge, tremendous amounts of information, because we are now returning, so to speak and access and where we come from. So for me, that is what Self Realisation and enlightenment is, it’s probably not the standard, maybe definition of what that means for people. But that’s my understanding of what authentic Self Realisation or enlightenment is the ability to be in direct communion with your with your hires.
Got it? Yeah, yeah. And I want to get into your story in a second. It’s, it caught my attention instantly, as soon as Sarah sent out an email to me that introduced me to you. But just on this Self Realisation thing for a moment, then because there’s, do you think that’s part of the human being experienced that we here to realise that within ourselves as part of our, our journey, because, for me, being the Welshman and I mentioned that many times on the podcast, I had no idea of any of this work or concepts in any shape or form. I didn’t even stop to think that I could be part of something bigger, let alone experience it in any shape, or way. But here I am at nearly 47 years old, you know, converted, if you like, as you know, it’s changed my life. So what are your thoughts on on that?
Sure. I would say that the goal of every incarnation is Self Realisation. So I think I think what we’ve mapped out as our life plan, the goal is that these certain experiences that we have the souls that we’re going to meet, interact with, and the experience is kind of like data points on a timeline. So I kind of like to say what a life plan is. I think the the very point behind it is to wake us up for us to realise ourselves, and to become self realised to do the inner work that these things keep happening, this incarnation. And it’s for us to wake up. I think the whole point, or the goal behind every incarnation is Self Realisation. And I think the next point, if you will, of incarnation is to experience the limitations that are inherent within physical reality. So this is a low, very low frequency. There’s nothing more physical than solidity, right? That there’s nothing beneath this, so to speak. So it’s more challenging to be here than anywhere else. And so if we can realise the self in the most challenging of environments, Then our evolutionary progression is accelerated. And that’s really the point of incarnation is to accelerate the evolution of consciousness. And there’s no greater challenge than incarnating in the low frequencies, what we call the third dimension, but for me, it’s actually the third frequency. This is the biggest challenge. And then if you could realise the self here, you have accomplished, quote, unquote, the ultimate. Yeah.
No, it makes sense. Makes sense, in your journey in your life experiences? How have you come to these realisations? yourself?
Yeah, it’s a good question. So I get asked that. So when I was a little kid, I would do things that were natural for me. But as it turned out, they were very unusual. I wouldn’t be called Project consciousness or leave your body, I would lie down and relax. And all of a sudden, my consciousness was standing next to my body, and I was looking at my body. It was just totally natural and totally normal. And it was it was without effort. Or without teaching, I was also there was a little kid. And so I realised that I could do this sort of, we could say, at will naturally, right as child. And I realised that once I was out of my body, that there weren’t really any limitations in terms of where I could go and what I could do. And it wasn’t just, you know, I could walk around the neighbourhood as spirit, I could actually go further and actually leave this realm. And I just started doing this as a kid, as an instinct. Wow. And as it turns out, I describe this more as a muscle memory. So this is just something I came into the and we were both seeing, like a four year old play Mozart, right? These these child prodigies? I mean, where did they get that ability? Right? They, they came into this world with it. So this, for me is more of a muscle memory mixed in with some additional downloads that probably occurred during this incarnation. But I think it was just, it was just always there. And I was always doing it until I realised that no one else was doing it or how odd. I remember the look my mother gave me started telling her about this. She’s like, What are you talking about this? No one does that. I don’t know what you’re talking about. But I gave it up a little while because I was so it was so protrude in that sense. Now, it’s totally different. And I didn’t sort of revisit doing these kinds of things until my early into my early 20s. I think until I had developed an intellect enough to actually sort of reverse engineer and understand what I was doing naturally as a kid. So and then really, since then, I’ve kind of been teaching it and using it. As I said in the beginning of that question, teaching it using it for self healing and Self Realisation, protocols and teachings.
Wow. And did you always have the memories of those experiences through your teens? Or did they kind of blur away and then as you lean back into the work, you could then reflect back because quite often we can forget, you know, different things.
They seem to, I never, they seemed almost more real than, than here and being here. So I would say I never forgot any of those experiences that seemed to be Yeah, that’s the only way I could say that seemed more real than being here. This always felt like a dream. And the leaving of the body and being pure spirit is what and still does, feels most real. So it never really left. But I would say knowing the self human aspect of the guide didn’t happen. Until I needed it to happen when I became very sick. But I always used to say, if ever get sick, I’ll just kill myself. And my parents thought that was crazy. My friends thought I was crazy. And I think if they would have asked me, okay, aren’t you? How would you do that? I wouldn’t have had an answer. I just knew inside I could do it. I didn’t know how to bring it out yet. But I knew I could do it. And it was upon, you know, me getting very sick when I came to house, okay, now I remember. And I started explaining what I would do and so on and so forth. And
wow, that’s incredible. Right. So let’s talk about your permanent paralysis that you ended up having, because I want age were you when that happened? And so I got I’ll ask you that question first. But there’s a second one then was that were you fearful because or because you had these memories and experiences that you already had that you could approach the whole paradigm completely different from the start?
The the paralysis occurred April 23 of 2016. So this is a fairly recent six, six years ago. When I woke up, I had had to have emergency surgery. I had septic shock. And I had this infection that no one has an answer for there’s like 65 reported cases ever of what I’ve had. And it literally ate through my vertebrae and crushed crushed my spine. There’s a picture of the MRI. Yeah. action and infection and nasty, nasty lethal. I mean, obviously, septic shock was lethal. I was told
this, how does this happen overnight,
apparently was developing for about six to eight weeks because I was feeling worse and worse and worse. And I went spent two weeks in the hospital to give me all these antibiotics. I didn’t do anything because I became paralysed afterwards. So but I could feel something horribly wrong with me and they were trying to address it with antibiotics. But it didn’t work. I was conscious as this was happening, that I didn’t know their levels of pain like this. To be honest, I don’t I don’t recommend it for anybody. But it was upon awakening from emergency surgery. I remembered is the only way I can say is that I remembered and I remembered this specific mechanics of it. And I told the ICU nurse I told the surgeon I told the infectious disease doctor, I told him because I lived in the hospital rehab for three months. I told everybody from the minute I woke up that I would heal myself and I explained in detail how I would do it and I said on the 100th day I’ll walk on assisted. And this is all document that on the 100 day I walked on a system
and what was the prognosis? When you came out of surgery? What were they saying to you at that point?
perm- permanent paralysis, there’s nothing, there’s nothing you can do. And the book I even have the surgeries notes, pre pre surgery and post surgery pre surgery is complete paraplegia, post surgery is complete paraplegic, you don’t recover. Once the spine is done, the spine has no self healing mechanism. Like you know, when you cut yourself it scabs over. But the spine does not work that way. It’s almost like a jelly, gelatinous substance. And as soon as it’s touch, it’s permanently damaged. And so mine was was crushed. And you can see the MRI, and there’s videos of this. So yeah, I was told immediately that your condition is permanent. On top of all these diseases that I had type one diabetes, hypothyroidism, a whole bunch of other stuff to
Jesus, and you and you are paralysed from the neck down. Chest, chest on chest, and you can move your arms.
I could move my arms and I could move my head a little bit. You could talk and yeah, yeah. So yeah, from the chest down. There was no sensation. There was no mobility. Yeah. Yeah, interesting, an interesting experience.
I don’t doubt it like you don’t hear this every day. So because I remember having Anita moorjani on for 18 months ago, you know, she was talking about her experiences in similar vein and but what what fascinates me then is that you’ve, you’ve come out of the surgery, they’ve given you Sorry, me, this is how it’s going to be you’ve made up your mind that you’re going to heal yourself and walk out on the 100th day. Or you you knew it? Yeah, in a way.
Yeah, you know how we know, we just know, I knew that I would walk again, because I knew how to do it. And that’s why I kind of referenced it as a muscle memory, self healing or whatever, however you want to turn this ability was already within me. And I needed the challenge of paralysis to prove to myself that I could put myself back together yet again. And that’s exactly what I did. I knew I would do and I had absolutely no question. I never had a single thought that I wouldn’t walk.
And what happened when you got to the 100th day,
I, I got up out of my wheelchair, didn’t pick up the canes. You know, I had been working diligently to get myself to this point. And I knew I was ready to do it. And they just didn’t pick up the cans. It wasn’t exactly, you know, I wasn’t exactly a sprinter. But I was able to get up on my feet and shuffle completely unassisted, shuffled down down the hall and came right back completely unassisted. And just a quick story, I’ll tell you when I was in the rehab for a few months. The insurance company sends the wheelchair, an agent from the wheelchair manufacturer to build your permanent wheelchair, right as part of insurance. So I was in a rehab facility with one of the physical therapists and the gentleman comes in he says, Hello, Mr. Smith. I’m here to we’re going to design your your permanent wheelchair. So I said well Okay, when is how long does it take for that to be built? And he said, it’ll take about eight weeks, maybe 10 weeks. I said, Oh, but by then I’ll be walking. And he laughed because he was joke like, you know, this guy’s permanently paralysed. Was he talking about? And he goes, haha, I said, No, I’m serious, don’t even bother on it. And he looked at the physical therapist who was next to me. And she’s like, No, he’s serious. He’s gonna walk. Because what we have to do it anyway, I should show something there. So I said, Okay, I said, By the time you by the time you build and give it to me, I’ll be walking. And when he delivered it, I answered the door standing up. And I said, I told you this map was just
amazing. Sorry, there was a pause there in the in the lag, but that’s fine. The question I have for you then is during those 100 days, your family of friends, the doctors, physicians, were they like, all getting behind you, as changes were seeing over there was resistant? What was the general, I guess, support system around you like because that can be very challenging for people that have ill health or a difficult if there’s a lot of fear getting put into you constantly saying this? Is it? There’s no way you know,
yeah, yeah. So I just like the approach that I took in terms of this healing technique as well, the approach I took in regards to that was, was quite different. I actually told all my friends and my family to not contact me. I said, No, no emails, no phone calls, no text messages, because I have to completely and utterly focus, a very high level to be able to put myself back together. And those that know me, that’s not something unusual for me to say just, you know, being odd, whatever. But it literally said, no distractions whatsoever. Because I really, I cannot have my energies divided. I can’t speak over and over about what the surgery was like, and how many antibiotics and what’s the prognosis didn’t matter to me. So I just said, Please, respect that I need to be left alone, and I’ll contact you when I’m ready. And, and everyone’s like, Okay, I get it. The doctors, the surgeon, physical therapists, while trying to be as positive, they’re very caring, very compassionate people kept telling me to deal with reality. And the reality was that you’re incredibly sick. And that you’re permanently paralysed. You have to get your home retrofitted. For being a paraplegic, you have to start this process. Mr. Spina, you can’t this and that. And I will just go Yeah, okay. I understand. And I never took it in. And this is one of the things one of the things that I talked about for people that are that have a tough situation, do not identify with what is being said, okay, just observe it. And you don’t have to let that affect you. And I never, ever, ever let any of that in. There it experience has nothing to do with me. And I said that very kindly to them. I said, I understand. That’s your experience. But that has nothing to do with me. And, you know, they respected that. And some of them weren’t surprised eventually, that when I showed back up a couple of months after being discharged, and walked in there, like I knew it, I knew you were gonna do with it. So you can’t let other people anyone define or limit you. And we have to start with ourselves, which is what the ego mind identity does, that automatically limits you. So can’t think outside the box, you have to remove the box. And then once that’s done, there are no more limitations. And that’s really the key, it didn’t matter to me what the experts were saying they had no idea what I was tapped into and what I was doing, and I didn’t bother trying to explain it.
Wow. Okay, you’ve triggered some definite conversations I want to go into especially once the ego mind was completely out of the way. And you tapped into something else. How do you then I mean, remember, you’re going over everyone that will be listening to this will have will be on the kind of on the same page as this conversation, you know, riveted? And then how do you then explain to people when they go, so what exactly did you do? You know,
he had the will the book, and the online course is exactly what I did. So I wrote it. So someone has to do it first. Right? And then once someone does it, everyone else has permission to do the impossible for themselves. Right? So that’s all I see this once it’s downloaded into the collective consciousness now everyone could do it. It’s kind of like the the gentleman Roger Bannister. I think it was 50s like it was impossible to run a four minute mile Don’t bother. It’s absolutely possible human impulse. It’s never gonna happen. And then of course you did it. And I don’t know, if you look at six weeks later, someone else did it. And then since then 20,000 people have done it, including high school students. So they got permission to do it because someone did it first. And this is the whole point of this incarnation for me is that this is going to be the permission slip and the step by step instructions for people to do the impossible for themselves. Does that make sense?
It does. 100%. So if if we were to do the footnotes of it, like what, what is the biggest thing that gets in the way of us realising that we can support our ill health and be the commander of our own destiny to a degree, you know, the ego, the ego, you go,
yeah, without a doubt the voice in the head without a doubt, so that that, that what I call the ego mind identity, I describe that as the ego mind identity is a limitation programme that runs by thinking. Okay, so what we want to do, and all thinking is in context to a belief. So we first have to have a belief about something, that concept about something in order to even think. So once we have let go of all attachments to all beliefs and all concepts. And one way to do that, we’re going to just pretend that you just arrived here, no past no future. The moment you read, you probably felt something there. But at the moment that you do that, you’re now fully present. So now the soul is online and the ego mind identity has gone. Okay, we need to proceed from there. That’s the starting line. So now there’s no limitation because there’s no story we’re telling ourselves. And that’s kind of what I meant when I said, Don’t think outside the box removes the box. Okay? Now, you can do anything that you set your intention to do. And so this was the starting point. For me, there was no limitations whatsoever. I knew if I harnessed my world properly, and went into deep enough states of consciousness, where we can start to move our energy in very powerful ways, I knew that I just simply put myself back together. And that’s the shortest version of it. There’s countless studies done, that meditation changes our DNA, right? It repaired, okay? It just stands to reason, my friend that deeper, more powerful meditation only enhances the ability to change our DNA and put ourselves back together. And that’s what this course teaches you how to do much deeper states of your own will to higher states of consciousness.
Why do we have an ego, then if it’s gets us into so much trouble?
It occurs through incarnation. So we are normally existing at a much higher frequency and dimension. And by coming down here, step two to speak its frequency. So there’s no cure there. It’s all all one area. Yeah, but by dropping down in dimension and frequency, we get cut off from our natural environment, or natural holistic understanding. And we get reduced, reduced, reduced to just this form factor, we slip into this body. And then we become completely reliant upon the five senses, the information that comes into the five senses, and that’s what forms the intellect, this has nothing to do with the self with the soul. It has nothing to do with it. So the character is the character that we create, based upon our five senses, identification with the body. And everything that we identified with that becomes your ego mind identity, that becomes a limitation programme, because none of those things are actually you. None of them. So the only real obstacle is the character that we create the ego, mind identity, and it comes through because of incarnation, it’s incarnation that creates the ego, we identify with the body, the five senses, and then what the five senses information produces, which is what we call the intellect. And these things are infant testable, compared to the greater reality. And so when we let go of those things, now the greater reality and our higher consciousness, we now have complete availability to this.
Got it? Yeah, no, that’s a good explanation. And then in our life, then like when you think about our experiences, the stories, the beliefs, the ego is allowing us to experience life like you say, through the five senses, touch identity to where do you see the balance of having been able to have the human experience but being connected to source and almost like a foot in each camp? I’m not like, Oh, so how do you Use your ego to serve you in your life now, then, like what states are we looking to get to, to, I guess, to not live with fear and enriching our lives while we can have these experiences,
the statement that comes to me is this tube to work in the physical but not be of the physical, physical reality. Right? So the human experience, this is what a human is, it’s a suit. All of us are an energy. So this is a suit. So the key is to tangibly notice, not mentally conceptualise, but to tangibly feel this within yourself. And Kundalini experiences, by the way, kind of awakened, sort of this has, you know, kind of awakened sort of this greater consciousness within ourselves, right. So when we leave behind the identification with the body, we’re able to, as you said, live in both worlds, now we’re able to connect with our own self and our own higher consciousness simultaneously, while still occupying this body temporarily, and experiencing physical reality. So it is the merging of these two things, we have to have some level of ego, because we’re here, we’re incarnate. So no matter how advanced, or how evolved, or how saintly, anyone is there, still some ego because you must have it in order to be here, if there was zero, ego, you wouldn’t even be able to be here at all. But the key is to not identify with the form factor, not identify with the senses, or the voice in your head, and realise what you really are. And then you use this body, to be able to have the human experience and all the wonderful things that happen in physical reality, there’s no such thing as physical touching, and higher frequencies and dimensions. There’s no physicality whatsoever. So this is, this is the only place where you can hug your dog. This is the only place where you can kiss your wife. Right? This is the only place where you can feel water. Right? water, and it’s incredible to be here, but you can’t identify with it. It’s just it’s a temporary stop for your own consciousness. Get the most out of it, but don’t identify with it.
Yeah. And what would you suggest to somebody that is listening to this, that is probably, let’s say, had a bit of a week, sometimes they say to wake up, we need a wake up call, you know, and, and, and we just go Holy shit, and then we have a realisation that we’ve been living a certain way for maybe our entire life, you know? And then of course, we can, you know, we can start to go through all the emotions of like guilt and frustration and fear and all these debilitating emotions that then grippers, what would you say then is the first step to looking at what we could do and take action with Now to begin to allow ourselves to heal? Whether that be mentally, emotionally or physically?
It’s a great question, the first thing I would say is give yourself permission to give yourself permission to heal. It is our divine right? To do that. Okay, and if anyone who is listening and is wondering about this, you have permission to It’s okay. You don’t have you don’t need permission from anyone else, give it to yourself. And the second thing I would say is work on being present, all the time. So I like to tell my students and whatever I said, if you find yourself thinking stuff, that’s kind of how I say it, as soon as you start thinking stuff, okay, because it’s just going to go into this, this in this direction, district. Now all of a sudden, you you’ve left the central point of yourself, you’re no longer present. So the idea to be present all the time, this is in the book on the course on how to work with your energy, right, the whole pretend you’re just director of past and future. You’re immediately here and now fully present. Just stay that way. And as soon as we find ourselves, identifying with a rumination or projection, bring your energy back down and bring yourself back to the present moment. And one way you can just read the future. There’s a whole bunch of magic tricks in the book of course of how to do that, but work on being present. Because when you’re present, the soul emerges. You are really here, when you’re present when you’re not in the past, or the future. And that’s the whole key to the limitless nature of the self. We have to bring ourselves to the present. And as soon as we leave it, stop, bring yourself to the present. Now we can really do anything because the self, what I call the sentience, what people have called the soul is limitless because it’s all connected. The true is not as you know, some sort of spiritual fishing. That’s true, right? So we can connect with ourselves, we can connect with everything, bring yourself to the present. And don’t let the mind take over. And that’s really that’s really the key.
So awareness really starts with awareness. Isn’t it? Being aware? In that moment? You know, I think about I’m trying to think of the question that was coming to me then that as you were you were sharing that as we become present, from your experience and working with other people, then, how much do you think our body is keeping score of because of the way we’ve identified ourselves with ego with mind and how we perceive the world? How much do you think that is affecting our house and physically over time? You know, because if we look at the current medical model system, everything’s mechanistic. I’ve got, you know, there’s a problem with my body, I’ll go in, and I’ll just patch it up and take a pill or something like that, you know, I know, I’m generalising Yeah, to a degree, but we don’t kind of look at the roots. Like, why is it there in the first place? What’s going on? How much do you think from your experience and people that you work with? That the way we’re actually perceiving through the ego is affecting us?
That’s a great question. And the answer is 100% 100%. Yeah, that whatever the mind produces, the body then experiences that the body cannot exist without the mind. So whatever reality we’ve created for ourselves within our mind, or ego, mind identity, whatever reality we’ve created for the body must follow suit. So I like to say that all disharmony comes from disharmonious thought patterns. Hence, this is why meditation is always talked about, right? It stops the programme, it stops. This is the point so the body the end result, the disharmony the dis ease that we have in our body is a result of the disharmonious thought patterns, that we’ve created the reality that we have created for ourselves with our own mind, they’re directly reflective of one another. And when we say don’t think outside the box, remove the box when that stops, right? Now the disharmonious programme that the Bible is running, you can now take control of it because you don’t want the fee to get in the wrong direction. You’re no longer continually spinning with the beliefs and the concepts and the stresses and the pressures. Once that stops, the momentum of disharmony within the body in the body of energy starts to slow down and you can get it to the point where it’s no longer moving forward. Now we have an opportunity to put everything back in its proper order, in terms of health, vitality, vigour, because that’s the natural order of things. The ego mind identity is the unnatural order of things, and the body has no recourse other than to follow the mind. So it’s 100% related, I have yet to meet anyone who is completely clear headed self realised whatever self actualize whatever word you want to use. Who’s, who’s sick? Right? The people that have a problem is because there’s a problem going on in terms of the process, how they’re creating the reality, and therefore how they’re experienced. So we have to stop that. We have to stop the ego mind identity limitation programme from running meditation. And now we have an opportunity to heal ourselves.
Yeah, yeah, it’s massive, isn’t it? The because I think about the state of being as well in how distracted we are in our daily life, you know, the access to social media, the news, the TV, people’s opinions, you know, it, we’re just bombarded. 24. Seven, and it it, it’s, it’s eye opening, and, but we have become so accustomed to it, and accepted to be our natural state of being. But it feels like we’ve more so far left of the middle of our true self. But we’ve identified ourselves over there, we don’t even know the you know, it’s already here within us. We’ve just got to start to break. break those cycles.
You said that we were living in a reactionary paradigm. Yes. And that’s the product, another word for reaction is stress. Right. So we’re caught. We’re caught in a state of reacting to everything, because we’re identifying. Right? So the ego mind identity is a reactionary paradigm. And so the only way that you can be as the state of being is stressed, and if there’s a constant level of stress, you are going to be sick, if you’re not already, right. So this idea of not reacting being detached, and detachment is power. Because when you’re detached from everything, you get your energy back, because it’s no longer connected to this or that, right. So when you detach from everything, you actually become incredibly powerful. And this is the key to being able to do anything that you want, you must have all of your energy, the only way to have all of your energy is to detach from everything here. And that’s really the key to being able to do whatever it is that you need to do direct your energy, instead of squandering our energy into thinking and emoting and worrying, and emotionalizing imagine we had all that energy back. And we could harness it. And we could harness it in one direction towards healing. So this is what’s in the book. And then the course is actually how to do this. I mean, this is just metaphysics is what I’m talking about. This is metaphysics, it’s just a deeper perspective of how things actually are. Everyone is going to be able to do this. Gonna be able to heal themselves. It’s it’s ancient. We just got
my question. Can anyone do this? Yeah,
it’s, we can, because inside, we’re all the same thing. Right? We’re sentience, the soul and we have energy. And that’s the energy that we use to think emote and animate the body. It’s universal. That’s right. I mean, there’s no difference between RJ guy, the neighbour, it’s all the same, right? Where this divine intelligence inside that’s been given energy to animate the body emotionalize and think create, that’s all you need to be able to do this. So instead of squandering all that energy, leaking it out, giving it away, not using it properly, right? We’re going to learn how to harness it properly, powerfully. Right? And this is the key, right? And this is what I’ve done with myself, I’ve helped tonnes of people and anyone can do it, everyone does do it. They just haven’t been taught properly. That’s all they just and it’s no one’s fault. No one, no one should blame themselves. Okay, these kinds of teachings used to be available very, very, very, very long time ago, then a whole nother sort of reality, so to speak. But now we’re, it’s been reintroduced, so to speak. And it’s a very step by step process on how to do it, if I can do it, if I can do it.
Yeah, no, amazing, amazing. It’s, I found in my own journey, as I’ve done the work on the inner work on myself, physically, mentally, emotionally, you know, and spiritually, that you do you retain that energy back. And then once you you get to this tipping point where then you can start to direct and move forward with whatever intentionality that one is that you want to bring into your life, but you don’t have the, the limiting beliefs or the fears are the things that were there that had been holding you back for so long. And it’s a much clearer path. But I don’t know about you, but I found the more I’ve done this work, the more I actually want for less anyway, because I feel in a much better state constantly. You know,
that’s exactly right, once once we’re in tune with the self, the self is complete. The self is whole, it doesn’t lack anything. Right? It’s a direct fractal of God, it’s not lacking anything, the mind will say otherwise, but you’re not the mind. So the self is whole and complete. And you have discovered this for yourself, and that you don’t want. In fact, if anything, once you truly discover the self authentically, as you have the will, compulsion is to share and to give. That’s what starts as you know, this is what starts to happen. It’s the opposite. You don’t want to acquire and take, you want to give you want to share. Right? That’s when you know that you’re aligned with the self. There’s no taking so acquire. So what, I don’t need anything, I don’t want anything. I already have myself, it’s more than enough. Right? And then you just want to give others this wonderful gift of being present and being able to be compassionate towards themselves. And so and you, like you’ve done that you’re doing this now. Right? So yeah, it’s it’s detaching, really from everything detaching from beliefs, concepts, roles, ideologies, all these things that what you are comes before any of those. Right? So there’s no need to identify with them. Just let them all go. Just let them all go. Just let them drop to the ground. You don’t need them. And then just like you said, Your intentionality once you have your energy back, it’s like setting the GPS on the car. You just say, this is what I’m going to achieve. You know that that’s the direction that you’re going. You don’t even have to think about it anymore because you know, that’s the direction you’re going in. And you just do what you need to do from moment to moment, until you realise that your manifestation has come into play. Do you arrive wherever it is that you set your GPS, that’s how I deal with the walking. I knew I was going to walk and I didn’t think about it again, I just do everything that I needed to do to bring about that the healing within myself. And then lo and behold, okay, I can walk, I knew I would just like when we get and set a GPS, we know we’re going to get to the store, or wherever we set the GPS, we don’t think about it anymore. We know. And this is the key to unlocking intention.
Has anyone wanted to study you will look at how you’ve done it and go, let’s get this out, you’re more to the world. Like, because it’s remarkable what you did. You know, it’s, it’s not every day, you’re gonna hear this kind of conversation with people.
You know, I understand. And I would say maybe from the outside looking in, it’s incredible. But I promise you, it’s just me, and it’s no big deal. So it’s hard for me to pat myself on the back because and kind people, they end the kind words say more about you than they do about me, by the way. And I just want people to know that they can do this too, I am different. But at the core, we’re exactly the same. And so anyone can do this. And, you know, I was doing this as a kid in some weird way. So I’m just here to teach you if you want to say I’m a teacher of teachers, and maybe that’s a little more accurate, to be honest. So but there’s nothing in in terms of the actual what’s been my core that’s different from me or different from you. I’m just, I’m just working with it directly, directly. And I don’t waiver, right. And that’s part of what the book and the course teaches how not to waver how to be able to control the mind, because it’s self doubt guys, you know, it’s the voice in the head, that throws us off. But once you learn how to work with your energy, and that starts to happen, you know exactly what to do. And then that that voice of self doubt is gone, then there’s nothing left, but to get done, what it is that you want to get done. There’s nothing in the way anymore. And these teachings, I was just talking with someone earlier today. And she was saying how these teachings She goes, I’m not even using them for subhuman. I’m using them for everything in my life. Because it’s a deeper, more holistic perspective into what is and to how energy and we’ll call it spiritual physics, if you like how they actually work. This applies to every single facet of everything. Everything, right? It’s the ego mind identity. That’s the only obstacle, it’s something that we create. And because we created it, we can uncreate it.
Love it. Alright, last question before I change gears. I’m curious, because they say the greatest fear is, is death. You know, and and if we don’t accept that we never really fully live. And I often I remember Wayne Dyer saying that years ago, and it really resonated with me. What are your thoughts on on death, and related to your experiences and this work?
Well, I would say that life and death are concepts. And that consciousness is eternal. So for me, there is no life and death. As I said, it’s different states of being. Right. And if we work on ourselves a true self, we can reach different states of consciousness where people that are no longer within this frequency, you’re still able to communicate, right? Because they still exist, they just don’t exist in this body or in this frequency. So life and for me, life and death are concepts, consciousness is eternal. So I don’t really see it that way. Right. And even as a little kid, because this was this was happening as a kid. So I was like, Oh, no such thing dies, and you can talk to anyone that you want to, all you have to do is just be able to use your consciousness to experience this. And to put a finer point on it to go a little further with that. We all give ourselves seven different junctures where we can end our incarnation. And they’re associated with the chakras, the seven, the seven main chakras. So this is part this is part of the life plan. So when the soul not the ego, when the soul feels that it’s done enough, it will simply avail itself of one of those termination points or exit junctures, and leave the incarnation. Hmm. This is what Yeah.
And then there was gonna say, then what happens? Do you feel that we come back to have a different experience through a different way?
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So you can think of it as we’re working on a larger body of work and in each incarnation, it’s just an app. perspective, a larger body of work that the soul is working on. So it’s kind of like a single project, a single project a single project, while you’re while all those single projects are to build this one gigantic thing. So yes, yes, we keep coming back all the time we’re working on a longer trip, the soul is working on a larger body of work. And this is universal for everyone, myself, you and everyone. And these things, all the stuff that I talk about as unusual or weird as it is. This is what I experienced directly, which is why I’m able to talk about it. And these things can be taught. So there are many college students whether you want to call them that, they’ve asked these kind of questions. How can I do this? It’s through meditation. I mean, it’s simple. It’s not complicated. It really isn’t. When you The truth is, right, when you tap into, it’s like, Oh, that makes sense. Now, obviously, obviously, obviously. And so when we get to the right protocols, and exercises in terms of how to do this, it’s so easy. It’s absolutely so easy. So I kind of want to ramble that I apologise, like, life and death is a concept. And we’re always we’re always coming back as part of an evolutionary cycle. And within, it’s kind of like when you do cards, until all the hands have been played, and there’s no more cards to pick up. That’s when you bring all the cards back in and you’re reshuffle that would be an evolutionary cycle. And we’re all in an evolutionary cycle. And we’re going to keep incarnating until that evolutionary cycle is up. And then we’ll all kind of regroup, and then some will decide I’m going to keep incarnating and some will decide I’m not I’ll help those that are incarnating. So at that point, you can kind of change up what it is that you set into motion for them from the original evolutionary cycle.
Right. Now, no good explanation. Thank you. Yeah, you’re welcome. Appreciate it. A couple of us questions for you. Do you have a morning routine? Do you have a daily practice yourself continuously? Or do you find that you’ve done it so much for so long, you can kind of just walk around with your eyes open staying in a in kind of that Alpha Theta state and not. And things just bounce off you emotionally? mentally?
Yeah, it’s more like that guy. So I would say there was a period of time where I was very diligent. And some and sometimes I would meditate for very long periods of time, I would fast for very long periods of time. You know what I mean? 20 minutes of meditation, and I’ve been fast for 18 hours, I would not eat for weeks. So I meditate all day, and only only get brief breaks and do it again. I don’t do any of that anymore. So I don’t know if it’s my own laziness, or I’ve gotten distracted and other pursuits in terms of writing books and creating courses. But no, I don’t really do any of that anymore. My only real daily practice is to be present. Yeah, that’s it. And if I find myself drifting off, I bring myself right back then now.
You think it’s necessary? Like, it’s almost like, you know, when people ask me what I do for a living, I always say, I’m a treasure hunter, you know, and I’ve just gone out, looking for bits of gold and brought the best bits back and said, Look, this is what I found and kind of helpful to me, but you end up You’re the one that gets all The scars on your back, and you’ve gone out, they’ve been exploring, you’ve tried all these, like fasting or whatever, for three weeks, you know what I mean? And coming back, and then, but then you’ve got obviously people that are like, geez, I’ve just got my accountant job that I got to complete and go to work. You know, that’s not realistic to me. Do you? Are you finding that? what you do and what you teach that there’s a model that we can kind of fit it in without having to go to these places? Or do we think it or do you think it’s healthy to go to these places? And put push the boundaries? You know, like,
we’re? Yeah, it’s a good question. I think it’s very individual. By the way, some, some souls are more advanced than others. Right? We’re all the same, but some are more advanced. So some won’t need to do quite as it’ll just kind of happened very quickly. Right? I think it’s a good idea for everyone to develop a practice on mindfulness practice, if you want to call it meditation. I think eventually, and this is part of what I wanted to make sure that was in the book. And then of course, are these very simple things that you can do. Instead of trying to struggle with meditation, that’s to immediately bring yourself to the present, and then just learn how to stay there, perpetually. So to be in perpetual meditation is much easier than people think. And so that is really going to unlock everything. And everyone has time to do that, because it doesn’t take any extra time. It’s just the way to be. Right? So we don’t have to do something bizarre like weeks go live in a cave and faster and that this is unrealistic. Totally. I would never tell someone to do that either. So But, but to be present, and to do it rather quickly, like like, pretend you just arrived here, no past no future. And now stay that way. And as soon as you find yourself coming out, do it again. Bring yourself right to now, pretty soon, because these little, I call the magic tricks, because these little magic tricks are so easy and that they work in seconds. Pretty soon, you can just be this way all the time, because you don’t have to, oh, I gotta go meditate, and they go set up my room to get my crystals and they get my incense, don’t bother me them. And you can just do this all day all the time. And this is the case for everybody. Because this is the true state that that this is what we really are. So it’s easy. It’s easy. We don’t need to set anything up. But everyone should at least start with a mindfulness practice for sure. And if they want to call it meditation, they can just learn how to control your energy to be present. And that’s what yeah, that’s what meditation is. This is the self is meditation.
Hmm, beautiful, beautiful. Last question for you, RJ. Everything we’ve covered today. Is there anything you want to leave our listeners to ponder on?
Yes. I would like everyone to ask themselves, what is it that they’re trying to achieve? Find out what it is that is driving you what is it that you’re actually trying to achieve? Is it human success, monetary success is a relationship. pinpointing what it is that you’re trying to achieve and make sure that it aligns with your heart. And if it doesn’t align with your heart, then it’s just the programming in terms of what’s happened to them. The mental conditioning that happens from society, figure out what it is that you’re trying to achieve. And make sure that it resonates deep within you. Because if we’re not connected to something more important, and deeper within ourselves, who will never ever be able to handle the pressures of society.
Reform this great place to end the podcast on RJ your your your book is due out in a course in November and November at the end of February. November 8, do you have a mailing list people could join in the meantime, like if they’re listening to this and go Yeah, I want to be I want to know when it comes out.
Yes, yeah, that’s supercharged self healing.com. Just go there, you can get even download a free guide to some of these magic tricks that I was alluding to that will instantly relieve your mental or emotional stress within seconds. And you can sign up for a free guide. And then I’ll be able to let people know as things are starting to get closer and closer to the launch of the book and of course,
beautiful, beautiful, I look forward to checking out your book yourself made the pin really, really fascinated by your journey, your work and so much everything that you shared today just resonates so much. And I just want to say thank you for for for sharing so openly and honestly. It’s really appreciated.
Yeah, thank thank you for having me. It’s my pleasure. Thank you very much.
You’re welcome. And for anyone listening to this, the link will be in the show notes as well just below whether it be YouTube, iTunes, Spotify. I don’t know what people listening to it on these days, but one of them sounds good. Awesome. Thank you, RJ. Cheers.
Thank you go. You’d be well.